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Vic wants to see some action from JT.
Justin Timberlake was hit with major flack after folks misconstrued his intentions when he sent support to the black community after Jesse Williams? powerful speech at the 2016 BET Awards. Unfortunately for the pop titan, that criticism is still coming in strong from hip-hop heavy hitters, including Vic Mensa. During a recent Larry Willmore-hosted round table discussion, the Chi-town rapper sounded off on why Black Twitter came for dat ass. ?Our problem here is that Justin Timberlake himself?you know?is definitely benefiting from using black culture for his sound, his dance moves, his dancers, and blowing up off of it,? he explained. ?But if you roll down Justin Timberlake?s Twitter for the past two years, which I just did, you see nothing that supports black people when it?s more difficult, when there?s a struggle.?
In Justin?s defense, there really hasn?t been that much non-sponsored BS/promotional content on the singer?s timeline over the last couple, but the rapper makes a point. There?s a whole lot more advocacy that can be done outside of the social media realm, especially considering his power and close affiliation with the community.
?That?s a dangerous subject for him to touch,? Vic said. ?We?re not feeling him being down when it?s beneficial to him, and turning a blind eye when it could be dangerous. . . .Sit down until you show us you care. Don?t tell us shit unless you show us you care.?
And let?s face it: Janet Jackson knows a lot about that blind eye.
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What you guys think? I kinda see what he means :ohwow:
He might be on to something :ATLcameo:
Get that publicity Vic!
It's time!
Nah
??
i dint see blck celebrities & folk evn speak on tha worst mass shooting in histoire
but folk YELLED up & down 'bout how u dnt needa post on social media to care 'bout 'big events'
pls
not really. and i hate jt.
I kind of understand where he's trying to go.
But a lot of artist don't support when times are hard, black or white - which doesn't make it right.
So yeah, he's right.
yeah, can't stand that cracker so I agree
He's right
Accurate
It seems difficult to try to support tho...
Cause you're liable to get attacked when you support and liable to get attacked if you don't.
Kind of leaves you afraid to even genuinely be apart of the change.
One group of people can't be the only ones fighting for change, we all have to come together.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 01, 2016, 02:19:23 PM
Nah
sssssssss
"Oh just scrolled thru his account"
Nigger you're a rapper. Go scroll thru any of your peers accounts besides J Cole and Kendrick and I'm sure they haven't said shit publically either :dead:
Vic is just tryna get to B celeb status with this tbh
Love king Vic
:heyddy:
No Justin doesnt deserve this..
I like Justin's music, but I agree.
If Justin would've gone the pop route, he wouldn't have had a successful solo career.
i agree to an extent. jt's style is drenched in classic black music sound. the flip side of it is that he gives props and acknowledgment to the those who create for him and have influenced him. the catch 22 comes in can he just be a kid who is musically and fashionably influenced by a particular culture, yet not be a voice of the struggle of the culture? i think the two can be mutually exclusive. however the way he did janet lets me know he has no intention on advocating for the culture she in need form counterparts outside of the culture who have influence. devil's advocate, there are black artists who are born into the culture that don't either. it's an interesting topic. i think jesse's speech spoke to both the one born into it and the one influenced and told them to both get in line.
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I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? :uhh: JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.
Quote from: Stage on July 01, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
i agree to an extent. jt's style is drenched in classic black music sound. the flip side of it is that he gives props and acknowledgment to the those who create for him and have influenced him.
Interesting
Ive seen a few clips of interviews where he downplays his Black influences like Mike
and instead says Frank Sinatra, Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly are his influences. Not to mention hes beefed with Prince & R Kelly.
Im surprised ppl are finally noticing that he doesnt care about us
Guys....
Justin's still #1 on itunes!!
going on 2 MONTHS!!! CRAZY!
Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 05:11:16 PM
Guys....
Justin's still #1 on itunes!!
going on 2 MONTHS!!! CRAZY!
And how is this relevant to the topic at hand? :butim16robert:
Quote from: admc on July 01, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 05:11:16 PM
Guys....
Justin's still #1 on itunes!!
going on 2 MONTHS!!! CRAZY!
And how is this relevant to the topic at hand? :butim16robert:
This topic is irrelevant.
I posted because I wanted to
:letsmessfag:
Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: admc on July 01, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 05:11:16 PM
Guys....
Justin's still #1 on itunes!!
going on 2 MONTHS!!! CRAZY!
And how is this relevant to the topic at hand? :butim16robert:
This topic is irrelevant.
I posted because I wanted to
:letsmessfag:
FIne. Just know that JT or these other non-black artists you go up for don't give a fuck about your black ass or your struggles :letsmessfag:
Quote from: .betterwiseup on July 01, 2016, 03:28:49 PM
I like Justin's music, but I agree.
If Justin would've gone the pop route, he wouldn't have had a successful solo career.
Justin is a Pop singer though...
and has been singing pop songs, what are you talking about?
you actin like he put out straight R&B records or something. He hasn't
Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: admc on July 01, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 05:11:16 PM
Guys....
Justin's still #1 on itunes!!
going on 2 MONTHS!!! CRAZY!
And how is this relevant to the topic at hand? :butim16robert:
This topic is irrelevant.
I posted
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Quote from: admc on July 01, 2016, 05:18:28 PM
Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: admc on July 01, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 05:11:16 PM
Guys....
Justin's still #1 on itunes!!
going on 2 MONTHS!!! CRAZY!
And how is this relevant to the topic at hand? :butim16robert:
This topic is irrelevant.
I posted because I wanted to
:letsmessfag:
FIne. Just know that JT or these other non-black artists you go up for don't give a fuck about your black ass or your struggles :letsmessfag:
Oh, Ok.
I see the #FakeWokeGang that Char was talking bout is running rampant in here
you gorls look re damn diculous and don't even know it.
Justin is kinda the last white man to be coming for about cultural appropriation.
there's a difference between cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation.
LEARN IT.
but yeah...he's #1 on itunes
his career is fine and will be fine.
stay mad.
oh and Ray, how do you feel about Tank defending Justin?
because he was on TMZ Live defending him
Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 05:26:10 PM
oh and Ray, how do you feel about Tank defending Justin?
because he was on TMZ Live defending him
didnt see the TMZ thing
but I saw his instagram post
he had some points but Justin<<<<<
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Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 05:26:10 PM
oh and Ray, how do you feel about Tank defending Justin?
because he was on TMZ Live defending him
he had some points
That's all I needed to know. Thanks :ATLcameo:
RIP to his career
Quote from: FuvkYoThread on July 01, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
RIP to his career
Sure, Jan.
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Quote from: imani on July 01, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
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I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? :uhh: JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.
it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol
Quote from: Yar backwards on July 01, 2016, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Stage on July 01, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
i agree to an extent. jt's style is drenched in classic black music sound. the flip side of it is that he gives props and acknowledgment to the those who create for him and have influenced him.
Interesting
Ive seen a few clips of interviews where he downplays his Black influences like Mike
and instead says Frank Sinatra, Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly are his influences. Not to mention hes beefed with Prince & R Kelly.
Im surprised ppl are finally noticing that he doesnt care about us
i've seen him give props to both sides similar to what mj did as well. however i don't believe jt in that instance. nothing about him gives those others. mj had so many elements to his presentation and the influences were very real in the presentations.
as for the beefs. i always saw prince being the one that started that with the whole comment on sexyback. with r.kelly i'm not sure what happened there.
this is the one Im talking about
he was like offended by the MJ comparisons of his performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsuK2cGgQLQ
I have a Nostalgia love for JT. I dont think I could fully drag him. But... when others do it :ohwow:
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Quote from: imani on July 01, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
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I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? :uhh: JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.
it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol
exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.
Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed. His albums are cohesive. I didn't see him biting Confessions after Usher did his thing.
Now if we wanna talk about appropriation, let's talk about Macklemore, Iggy, Post Malone and countless others, Justin Bieber ... Zayn I mean
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B. The fake woke gang is annoying when they can't properly access situations.
That's like Martin Luther King turning away the white protesters for trying to connect or find common ground with their struggle :kii:
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Quote from: imani on July 01, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
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I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? :uhh: JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.
it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol
exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.
Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B.
:usuresis:
I agree.
And what do Vic's "peers" have to do with it?
ThEy have EVERYTHING to do with it when his peers are the ones influencing younger black children. Corrupting them with foolishness and aren't properly addressing their own struggle.
it also shows that public figures PERIOD these days are slow to speak on social issues for fear of effecting their livelihoods. So attacking Justin for a lack of Twitter posts is moot and a true waste of time.
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Quote from: imani on July 01, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
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I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? :uhh: JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.
it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol
exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.
Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B.
:usuresis:
what?
Oh I forgot to say Robin too
:latisha:
Quote from: BENTLEY! on July 01, 2016, 07:02:18 PM
Quote from: Yar backwards on July 01, 2016, 06:58:03 PM
Quote from: BENTLEY! on July 01, 2016, 06:54:11 PM
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Quote from: imani on July 01, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
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I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? :uhh: JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.
it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol
exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.
Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B.
:usuresis:
what?
Oh I forgot to say Robin too
:latisha:
but Robin & Jon B, and Paul Wall have always been Urban, and in the the Black ppl
Justin was bubblegum Pop, and considered generally a Pop artist until this 2020 album
he's nothing like them
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Quote from: imani on July 01, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
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I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? :uhh: JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.
it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol
exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.
Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B.
:usuresis:
what?
Oh I forgot to say Robin too
:latisha:
but Robin & Jon B, and Paul Wall have always been Urban, and in the the Black ppl
Justin was bubblegum Pop, and considered generally a Pop artist until this 2020 album
he's nothing like them
boy :dead:
Justin was on the Mickey Mouse club
He was tryna make a living
Clearly NSync was crafted and he did what he was told.
Even still on their last alberm, you could tell Justin's influence started to climb through
You can't say the boy was pure pop and never had RnB influence
Gone is still my mess :supluv:
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Quote from: imani on July 01, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
b
I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? :uhh: JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.
it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol
exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.
Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B.
:usuresis:
what?
Oh I forgot to say Robin too
:latisha:
but Robin & Jon B, and Paul Wall have always been Urban, and in the the Black ppl
Justin was bubblegum Pop, and considered generally a Pop artist until this 2020 album
he's nothing like them
boy :dead:
Justin was on the Mickey Mouse club
He was tryna make a living
Clearly NSync was crafted and he did what he was told.
Even still on their last alberm, you could tell Justin's influence started to climb through
You can't say the boy was pure pop and never had RnB influence
Gone is still my mess :supluv:
He has had R&B influence, just like Xtina & even Britney
but they have all been considered Pop artists
and still are tbh
they werent stuck on Urban AC radio like Robin & Jon B
Pharrell produced Girlfriend and he loved that sound, so they started working together.. I think his collaborations with Pharrell and Timbaland were great and I believe he is really inspired by them. I don't think he is just using this sound to make some money, i believe he genuinely loves to express himself that way.. But maybe it is better for him to shut up now because talking about these things is difficult. He was inspired by the speech because he cared and now everyone is telling him he is the opposite: some racist.
Quote from: Annie on July 01, 2016, 07:14:06 PM
But maybe it is better for him to shut up now because talking about these things is difficult. He was inspired by the speech because he cared and now everyone is telling him he is the opposite: some racist.
which is what I don't get.
the gorls want and strive for equality, but when someone of another color says something
in FAVOR of the movement, might I add, they attack them for it....
like, all your doing is alienating people who support the movement
now Justin wont say anything on the topic anymore which defeats the damn purpose
you'd think the gorls would want people to stand up and speak out..they wont anymore
and then the girls will wonder why no one says anything...
you dumb fucks bully anyone who does speak out.
I dont think there was an issue with him being inspired
however when he was asked about Janet & the appropriation
his response pretty much dismissed it
thats what got him in hot water
Quote from: Yar backwards on July 01, 2016, 07:24:34 PM
I dont think there was an issue with him being inspired
however when he was asked about Janet & the appropriation
his response pretty much dismissed it
thats what got him in hot water
ssssss
Janet has to own up to the fact she wanted to show that titty! I'm so sorry but ... yes she did want the world to see that titty!
She was older than him, she should have never out him in that position! Stop thinking of a race thing and think of it as a business/human thing. You would've done what Justin did.
Jan acts shy, but apparently all those moans on her records are real. She would have women come into the recording booth to eat her box so she could reall give a real moan mess owt.
ch....
it shouldve been left at him being inspired. all that other stuff was extra and not needed
the gorls on twitter got some courage from Jesse's speech and took that opportunity to attack someone non-black
what was he supposed to say "oh! got me! i appropriate culture" umm....no.
he defended himself while basically saying he makes the music he loves, which he is allowed to
there is no appropriation...you gorls really jumped out the damn window after this Iggy mess
now every damn thing is "oh! appropriation!"
you gorls ain't give not a fuck before, but now wanna give all this "I'm a justic warrior!" mess out. MISS ME
Quote from: Stage on July 01, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
i agree to an extent. jt's style is drenched in classic black music sound. the flip side of it is that he gives props and acknowledgment to the those who create for him and have influenced him. the catch 22 comes in can he just be a kid who is musically and fashionably influenced by a particular culture, yet not be a voice of the struggle of the culture? i think the two can be mutually exclusive. however the way he did janet lets me know he has no intention on advocating for the culture she in need form counterparts outside of the culture who have influence. devil's advocate, there are black artists who are born into the culture that don't either. it's an interesting topic. i think jesse's speech spoke to both the one born into it and the one influenced and told them to both get in line.
yea, I don't care for Justin or his shrieking falsetto myself, but it's easy to attack the blue eyed soul singer when it comes to being silent on black issues. Is this Vic gorl gonna take these other coons who have become millionaires glamorizing selling drugs, marginalizing women and just being human pieces of shit to task for their hesitance to help?
:rudone:
Quote from: BENTLEY! on July 01, 2016, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: Yar backwards on July 01, 2016, 07:24:34 PM
I dont think there was an issue with him being inspired
however when he was asked about Janet & the appropriation
his response pretty much dismissed it
thats what got him in hot water
ssssss
Janet has to own up to the fact she wanted to show that titty! I'm so sorry but ... yes she did want the world to see that titty!
She was older than him, she should have never out him in that position! Stop thinking of a race thing and think of it as a business/human thing. You would've done what Justin did.
Jan acts shy, but apparently all those moans on her records are real. She would have women come into the recording booth to eat her box so she could reall give a real moan mess owt.
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I sure wouldve done what Justin did
but then I wouldnt have thrown her under the bus afterward
I mean HE did it at the end of the day, he snatched off the clothes not Janet
and he was over 21. The only reason he didnt get criticized is his race and he knows it
If Chris were to rip off Rih's top he would be burned at the stake
come on now
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Quote from: imani on July 01, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
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I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? :uhh: JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.
it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol
Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed.
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Quote from: BLΛƆK on July 01, 2016, 07:34:03 PM
ch....
it shouldve been left at him being inspired. all that other stuff was extra and not needed
the gorls on twitter got some courage from Jesse's speech and took that opportunity to attack someone non-black
what was he supposed to say
nothing. Im sure he gets millions of haters tweeting him nonsense everyday
why did he have to respond to them in that instance? He shouldve just ignored everyone after being
"inspired" but he HAD to "clapback"
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Quote from: BENTLEY! on July 01, 2016, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: Yar backwards on July 01, 2016, 07:24:34 PM
I dont think there was an issue with him being inspired
however when he was asked about Janet & the appropriation
his response pretty much dismissed it
thats what got him in hot water
ssssss
Janet has to own up to the fact she wanted to show that titty! I'm so sorry but ... yes she did want the world to see that titty!
She was older than him, she should have never out him in that position! Stop thinking of a race thing and think of it as a business/human thing. You would've done what Justin did.
Jan acts shy, but apparently all those moans on her records are real. She would have women come into the recording booth to eat her box so she could reall give a real moan mess owt.
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I sure wouldve done what Justin did
but then I wouldnt have thrown her under the bus afterward
I mean HE did it at the end of the day, he snatched off the clothes not Janet
and he was over 21. The only reason he didnt get criticized is his race and he knows it
If Chris were to rip off Rih's top he would be burned at the stake
come on now
but boy :dead:
Jan was about 40 something, why did she even want a 21 year old ripping her top off
I'm sorry, but I can't fault him for distancing himself from her
girl I looked to you as a mentor and just because you wanted to be NASTY both our careers were almost ruined.
Like.. I'm so sorry but new age blacks always try to pass the buck by playing the race card
now, could he have sent a nice sentiment to her or public statement. Yea
but maybe he was mad at her. I know I would be.
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Quote from: Yar backwards on July 01, 2016, 07:24:34 PM
I dont think there was an issue with him being inspired
however when he was asked about Janet & the appropriation
his response pretty much dismissed it
thats what got him in hot water
ssssss
Janet has to own up to the fact she wanted to show that titty! I'm so sorry but ... yes she did want the world to see that titty!
She was older than him, she should have never out him in that position! Stop thinking of a race thing and think of it as a business/human thing. You would've done what Justin did.
Jan acts shy, but apparently all those moans on her records are real. She would have women come into the recording booth to eat her box so she could reall give a real moan mess owt.
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I sure wouldve done what Justin did
but then I wouldnt have thrown her under the bus afterward
I mean HE did it at the end of the day, he snatched off the clothes not Janet
and he was over 21. The only reason he didnt get criticized is his race and he knows it
If Chris were to rip off Rih's top he would be burned at the stake
come on now
but boy :dead:
Jan was about 40 something, why did she even want a 21 year old ripping her top off
I'm sorry, but I can't fault him for distancing himself from her
girl I looked to you as a mentor and just because you wanted to be NASTY both our careers were almost ruined.
Like.. I'm so sorry but new age blacks always try to pass the buck by playing the race card
now, could he have sent a nice sentiment to her or public statement. Yea
but maybe he was mad at her. I know I would be.
n
they were both wrong, why would he be mad for something he AGREED to do?
and his career was not almost ruined, only hers
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If that would've been Usher or Chris, they would've deleted and blocked Janet too
let's be real :kii: :kii:
girl you tried my livelihood all to show the world your new piercing. No ma'am, he can't keep getting blamed for that :dead:
he ripped off the bra
he SHOULD be blamed
It wasn't an accident :dead: Janet's concerts are also a bit much.. They just chose the wrong place to do this performance.. I'm sure it wouldn't have been a big problem at the mtv awards.
The latter couldn't have come at a better time. Not only had he just started a high-profile relationship with actress Cameron Diaz, but he was coming off a PR disaster in his now-infamous Super Bowl performance with Janet Jackson. Justin apologized immediately, but some felt he shifted the blame solely to Jackson, whose breast he exposed as he sang, "I'll have you naked by the end of this song."
"In my honest opinion now ... I could've handled it better," Justin admits. "I'm part of a community that consider themselves artists. And if there was something I could have done in her defense that was more than I realized then, I would have. But the other half of me was like, 'Wow. We still haven't found the weapons of mass destruction and everybody cares about this!' "
In retrospect, Timberlake thinks he should have been held more responsible. "I probably got 10 percent of the blame, and that says something about society," he explains. "I think that America's harsher on women. And I think that America is, you know, unfairly harsh on ethnic people."
https://web.archive.org/web/20060901082304/http://www.mtv.com/bands/t/timberlake_justin/news_feature_081506/
Ethnic?
I mean .... yawl think Justin deserved 50% of the blame tho?
What about Alexander McQueen for not making that costume a bit stronger?
Mtv produced that show, they have something to do with this I'm sure..
Quote from: Annie on July 01, 2016, 08:19:26 PM
What about Alexander McQueen for not making that costume a bit stronger?
Mtv produced that show, they have something to do with this I'm sure..
right!
Like I'm just not seeing why Justin had to take the blame
Lots of other ppl planned the show.
And they had rehearsals I'm sure.
Higher ups and network execs knew she was gonna show her titty
Quote from: BENTLEY! on July 01, 2016, 08:20:53 PM
Quote from: Annie on July 01, 2016, 08:19:26 PM
What about Alexander McQueen for not making that costume a bit stronger?
Mtv produced that show, they have something to do with this I'm sure..
right!
Like I'm just not seeing why Justin had to take the blame
Lots of other ppl planned the show.
And they had rehearsals I'm sure.
more reason he should bee blamed
he knew he was gonna do it
couldve said no but wanted to be edgy
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I like Justin's music, but I agree.
If Justin would've gone the pop route, he wouldn't have had a successful solo career.
Justin is a Pop singer though...
and has been singing pop songs, what are you talking about?
you actin like he put out straight R&B records or something. He hasn't
!!!
If him being white is why he's selling with r&b then why the fuck would it be any different if he was doing strictly pop? After all...he is white isn't he?
This boy has been doing pop and r&b influenced since nsync days and now in 2016 the girls want to pull this cultural appropriation mess... If it really meant that much then you should have ripped him to shreds about 15 years ago. I'm not buying this fake outrage. It's a little too late.
The niggas been working with Timbaland for YEARS and doing this same sounds and influences, and it works and it's authentic enough for me because I think at this point they genuinely like to work together if it wasn't obvious before.
Quote from: BENTLEY! on July 01, 2016, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: Yar backwards on July 01, 2016, 07:24:34 PM
I dont think there was an issue with him being inspired
however when he was asked about Janet & the appropriation
his response pretty much dismissed it
thats what got him in hot water
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Janet has to own up to the fact she wanted to show that titty! I'm so sorry but ... yes she did want the world to see that titty!
She was older than him, she should have never out him in that position! Stop thinking of a race thing and think of it as a business/human thing. You would've done what Justin did.
You're giving Justin the "white guy pass." He was an adult. He wasn't 13. He knew he was pulling clothes off Janet and even bragged about it right afterwards. He changed his tune when he realized the backlash was about to set in.
I don't know how you are so sure it was planned to show her naked breast and not a lingerie-ish outfit. But either way, they both did it. And Justin didn't get a pass 'cause he was young. He got a pass 'cause he was white.
Quote from: LiBra on July 01, 2016, 02:12:05 PM
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Vic wants to see some action from JT.
Justin Timberlake was hit with major flack after folks misconstrued his intentions when he sent support to the black community after Jesse Williams? powerful speech at the 2016 BET Awards. Unfortunately for the pop titan, that criticism is still coming in strong from hip-hop heavy hitters, including Vic Mensa. During a recent Larry Willmore-hosted round table discussion, the Chi-town rapper sounded off on why Black Twitter came for dat ass. ?Our problem here is that Justin Timberlake himself?you know?is definitely benefiting from using black culture for his sound, his dance moves, his dancers, and blowing up off of it,? he explained. ?But if you roll down Justin Timberlake?s Twitter for the past two years, which I just did, you see nothing that supports black people when it?s more difficult, when there?s a struggle.?
In Justin?s defense, there really hasn?t been that much non-sponsored BS/promotional content on the singer?s timeline over the last couple, but the rapper makes a point. There?s a whole lot more advocacy that can be done outside of the social media realm, especially considering his power and close affiliation with the community.
?That?s a dangerous subject for him to touch,? Vic said. ?We?re not feeling him being down when it?s beneficial to him, and turning a blind eye when it could be dangerous. . . .Sit down until you show us you care. Don?t tell us shit unless you show us you care.?
And let?s face it: Janet Jackson knows a lot about that blind eye.
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What you guys think? I kinda see what he means :ohwow:
did you know Justin timberlakes ancestors were slave owners?
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Quote from: Ms Malika on July 01, 2016, 09:25:59 PM
Quote from: LiBra on July 01, 2016, 02:12:05 PM
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Vic wants to see some action from JT.
Justin Timberlake was hit with major flack after folks misconstrued his intentions when he sent support to the black community after Jesse Williams? powerful speech at the 2016 BET Awards. Unfortunately for the pop titan, that criticism is still coming in strong from hip-hop heavy hitters, including Vic Mensa. During a recent Larry Willmore-hosted round table discussion, the Chi-town rapper sounded off on why Black Twitter came for dat ass. ?Our problem here is that Justin Timberlake himself?you know?is definitely benefiting from using black culture for his sound, his dance moves, his dancers, and blowing up off of it,? he explained. ?But if you roll down Justin Timberlake?s Twitter for the past two years, which I just did, you see nothing that supports black people when it?s more difficult, when there?s a struggle.?
In Justin?s defense, there really hasn?t been that much non-sponsored BS/promotional content on the singer?s timeline over the last couple, but the rapper makes a point. There?s a whole lot more advocacy that can be done outside of the social media realm, especially considering his power and close affiliation with the community.
?That?s a dangerous subject for him to touch,? Vic said. ?We?re not feeling him being down when it?s beneficial to him, and turning a blind eye when it could be dangerous. . . .Sit down until you show us you care. Don?t tell us shit unless you show us you care.?
And let?s face it: Janet Jackson knows a lot about that blind eye.
(http://i.imgur.com/eQvwdq8.gif)
What you guys think? I kinda see what he means :ohwow:
did you know Justin timberlakes ancestors were slave owners?
wow
so Im gonna take this to mean Justin is also racist and wants slavery to be re-established lolz
Justin does seem like the using type. He doesn't come off genuine, like, ever lol
Quote from: BENTLEY! on July 01, 2016, 06:54:11 PM
Quote from: Stage on July 01, 2016, 06:36:23 PM
Quote from: imani on July 01, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
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I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? :uhh: JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.
it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol
exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.
Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed. His albums are cohesive. I didn't see him biting Confessions after Usher did his thing.
Now if we wanna talk about appropriation, let's talk about Macklemore, Iggy, Post Malone and countless others, Justin Bieber ... Zayn I mean
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B. The fake woke gang is annoying when they can't properly access situations.
That's like Martin Luther King turning away the white protesters for trying to connect or find common ground with their struggle :kii:
the struggle comparison is the issue lol. the girls aren't here for the white guy with the black sound who doesn't speak up in the hard times for black people. however i to agree that our own artists need to get the hell in line which is why i loved jesse's speech. it spoke to both sides.
he's contributed, but progressed it? ch? brandy progressed r&b. people like stevie wonder, mj, prince, r.kelly, baby face, etc hell even drake.. and more?justin giving me mj falsetto over timbo and pharrell beats isn't progression. being successful isn't progression of a genre either. progression comes in two forms, pushing the sound to new places or sparking a demand for the genre at large?has a has done neither. he's been successful and had some good music.
Quote from: Yar backwards on July 01, 2016, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Stage on July 01, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
i agree to an extent. jt's style is drenched in classic black music sound. the flip side of it is that he gives props and acknowledgment to the those who create for him and have influenced him.
Interesting
Ive seen a few clips of interviews where he downplays his Black influences like Mike
and instead says Frank Sinatra, Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly are his influences. Not to mention hes beefed with Prince & R Kelly.
Im surprised ppl are finally noticing that he doesnt care about us
oh wow :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
wtf
:omgwatshappening:
i actually never peeped that sssdsdds fuck him
Not Fred Astaire
All of this over him just saying "inspired" n
Quote from: FINE. on July 02, 2016, 05:48:11 AM
All of this over him just saying "inspired" n
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Didn't know he was from Ghana too
Suddenly I like him a lot more
Quote from: BENTLEY! on July 01, 2016, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: Yar backwards on July 01, 2016, 07:24:34 PM
I dont think there was an issue with him being inspired
however when he was asked about Janet & the appropriation
his response pretty much dismissed it
thats what got him in hot water
ssssss
Janet has to own up to the fact she wanted to show that titty! I'm so sorry but ... yes she did want the world to see that titty!
She was older than him, she should have never out him in that position! Stop thinking of a race thing and think of it as a business/human thing. You would've done what Justin did.
Jan acts shy, but apparently all those moans on her records are real. She would have women come into the recording booth to eat her box so she could reall give a real moan mess owt.
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