https://youtu.be/5P0NT0r6de4
:dead:
Vh1 is clearly picking a side :raycharles2urmess:
:kii: yea this stuff is exactly whats in Takari's book
they aren't lying this lady is a nutcase
so glad Eve has brought it back to light
Quote from: AYR on August 12, 2017, 10:18:52 AM
:kii: yea this stuff is exactly whats in Takari's book
they aren't lying this lady is a nutcase
so glad Eve has brought it back to light
You will literally co sign any bullshit if your faves are implicated. :omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on August 12, 2017, 10:21:20 AM
Quote from: AYR on August 12, 2017, 10:18:52 AM
:kii: yea this stuff is exactly whats in Takari's book
they aren't lying this lady is a nutcase
so glad Eve has brought it back to light
You will literally co sign any bullshit if your faves are implicated. :omgwatshappening:
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on August 12, 2017, 10:21:20 AM
Quote from: AYR on August 12, 2017, 10:18:52 AM
:kii: yea this stuff is exactly whats in Takari's book
they aren't lying this lady is a nutcase
so glad Eve has brought it back to light
You will literally co sign any bullshit if your faves are implicated. :omgwatshappening:
thats what you got from this :uhh:
Sdddddddd
They're not picking a side, they're just building up more hype and talk around the show.
Quote from: AYR on August 12, 2017, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on August 12, 2017, 10:21:20 AM
Quote from: AYR on August 12, 2017, 10:18:52 AM
:kii: yea this stuff is exactly whats in Takari's book
they aren't lying this lady is a nutcase
so glad Eve has brought it back to light
You will literally co sign any bullshit if your faves are implicated. :omgwatshappening:
thats what you got from this :uhh:
:dead:
They posted another one a few days ago too.
I'm sure Shaunie has some part in this. Bad built ass.
Jackie really was HORRIBLE to Ta'kari though.
She deserves every lashing she gets.
Jackie is s evil piece of shit and there's a special place in hell for treating her daughter like that.
Nobody ever said Takari was lying on Jackie. That was never an question. But it's none of Evelyn's business and she is way too invested.
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 10:51:27 AM
Nobody ever said Takari was lying on Jackie. That was never an question. But it's none of Evelyn's business and she is way too invested.
Its her moment. Like Jackie said.
https://instagram.com/p/BXqPvjaB8Hw/
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 10:51:27 AM
Nobody ever said Takari was lying on Jackie. That was never an question. But it's none of Evelyn's business and she is way too invested.
RIGHT! Aint nobody capping for jackie mistreating her child but this extra from this bitch is disgusting.
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 11:00:40 AM
https://instagram.com/p/BXqPvjaB8Hw/
This girl really wanted to make a SPLASH but it failed big time.
Return! Queen is back!No one likes this bitch anymore, except Ray
Quote from: Nine on August 12, 2017, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 11:00:40 AM
https://instagram.com/p/BXqPvjaB8Hw/
This girl really wanted to make a SPLASH but it failed big time.
Return! Queen is back!
No one likes this bitch anymore, except Ray
sdssssdddddddd!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Nine on August 12, 2017, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 11:00:40 AM
https://instagram.com/p/BXqPvjaB8Hw/
This girl really wanted to make a SPLASH but it failed big time.
Return! Queen is back!
No one likes this bitch anymore, except Ray
CSDSDSSDSDSDDSSDSDDSDSDSDSSDFDFDFSDFSFSSFFSSFSFFSSFFSSFFSSFFSSFFSFSFSFSFSSFFSFSFS
!!!!!!!!!!!
The fact that Im team TAMI....
:udontlookok:
Quote from: Trey on August 12, 2017, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: Nine on August 12, 2017, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 11:00:40 AM
https://instagram.com/p/BXqPvjaB8Hw/
This girl really wanted to make a SPLASH but it failed big time.
Return! Queen is back!
No one likes this bitch anymore, except Ray
CSDSDSSDSDSDDSSDSDDSDSDSDSSDFDFDFSDFSFSSFFSSFSFFSSFFSSFFSSFFSSFFSFSFSFSFSSFFSFSFS
!!!!!!!!!!!
The fact that Im team TAMI....
:udontlookok:
SDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSSDDDDDDDD
ME TOO!!!!!!!!
When i dislike u more than Tami its a fckn problem
Did Evelyn say it's her business? She isn't doing anything but talking to a grown woman who wants to vent about being mistreated by her mother
no one put a gun to Takari's head and forced her to talk to Eve or send her the book
and Cody and Baph and obviously Sle are here for Queen Eve too
I have never liked Evelyn but I thought her return would be cool, but she turned me off in the first episode trying to justify and create a time line for sleeping with Kenny. She cared more about "clearing her name" than listening to Tami's true issue that Evelyn should have disclosed this before they started getting friendly. Then for her to meddle in Jackie's family issues for the sake of turning the light off of what was truly going on in her life, her comeback was lackluster and moot.
No i was with her all the way up until she started creating the jackie shit and harping on it. She didn't owe tami shit.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 11:21:46 AM
No i was with her all the way up until she started creating the jackie shit and harping on it. She didn't owe tami shit.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 11:21:46 AM
No i was with her all the way up until she started creating the jackie shit and harping on it. She didn't owe tami shit.
I agree, Evelyn actually seemed to blow that out of proportion more so than Tami did
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 11:21:46 AM
No i was with her all the way up until she started creating the jackie shit and harping on it. She didn't owe tami shit.
shes a fake bitch. I'm glad Brandi said that in that interview she did. I wish she would've came to the reunion
I don't see the problem Evelyn putting Jackie ass on blast about how she mistreat her daughter. Somebody had to the do it.
Evelyn is kinda the Queen of Basketball Wives.
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on August 12, 2017, 11:37:58 AM
Evelyn is kinda the Queen of Basketball Wives.
!!!
I mean Jackie has repeated Eve's phrases multiple times on here
the whole promotion before the season started was centered on her and Tami
:dead: @ her needing to donate to Takari's son for a "splash"
I honestly thought her daughter was exaggerating, just when I was starting to feel Jackie. :uhh:
And my problem with Evelyn wasn't that she made her relationship her business but was that she was so offended when Jackie brought up Shanice. If you're going to dish it be able to take it too. If they only spoke about things hay only pertained to them there wouldn't be a show..
Sleigh, bae.
https://youtu.be/7UIC1FNlunc
They dug in the vaults and posted the actual therapy scene. The way Jackie told them both she doesn't give a fuck as Takari sobbed DOWN has me hiding Jackie's liquor at the Angel Brinks event! :kii: :kii: :kii:
This girl is terrified of this woman!
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Sleigh, bae.
https://youtu.be/7UIC1FNlunc
They dug in the vaults and posted the actual therapy scene. The way Jackie told them both she doesn't give a fuck as Takari sobbed DOWN has me hiding Jackie's liquor at the Angel Brinks event! :kii: :kii: :kii:
This girl is terrified of this woman!
Yikes. I forgot this happen. Wow vh1 is stomping all over her bad mother wig.
For her prized light skin baby to dig into her like this :plzstop:
I really hope takari takes the coins from the book and gets therapy. Jackie has done a number on that baby emotionally and mentally.
I like Jackie on that show, but I don't fault anyone for finding her disgusting and inhumane for this.
The fact that it's the other daughter that brought up the MESS.
TACKIE, hon'...
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Sleigh, bae.
https://youtu.be/7UIC1FNlunc
They dug in the vaults and posted the actual therapy scene. The way Jackie told them both she doesn't give a fuck as Takari sobbed DOWN has me hiding Jackie's liquor at the Angel Brinks event! :kii: :kii: :kii:
This girl is terrified of this woman!
Yikes. I forgot this happen. Wow vh1 is stomping all over her bad mother wig.
For her prized light skin baby to dig into her like this :plzstop:
I really hope takari takes the coins from the book and gets therapy. Jackie has done a number on that baby emotionally and mentally.
I like Jackie on that show, but I don't fault anyone for finding her disgusting and inhumane for this.
!!!!!!!
>>>>>>><<<<<<<<
Love Jackie's character, but as a person, she is really fucked in the head. And !!!! at "prized light skin baby". I also think she wanted Doug so bad that she acted ashamed, because Takari was a constant reminder to her & Doug that she busted it open in a previous relationship. And I'm sure she was desperate to try and keep him. And still is!
What's more telling is how adamant Chantal is in both clips of what a terrible mother Jackie was. Funny how now she's morphed into Jackie Jr.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on August 12, 2017, 12:39:53 PM
The fact that it's the other daughter that brought up the MESS.
TACKIE, hon'...
!!!!!!
I literally just posted this in my last post!
Yes!
JNNBBBVvbbbvvvbhhhhh
That's how you know!
I feel like their entire family needs healing. There are clearly some deep rooted issues that need to be resolved. I only wish that it remained as a private matter, and not used for people's amusement.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 12:41:34 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Sleigh, bae.
https://youtu.be/7UIC1FNlunc
They dug in the vaults and posted the actual therapy scene. The way Jackie told them both she doesn't give a fuck as Takari sobbed DOWN has me hiding Jackie's liquor at the Angel Brinks event! :kii: :kii: :kii:
This girl is terrified of this woman!
Yikes. I forgot this happen. Wow vh1 is stomping all over her bad mother wig.
For her prized light skin baby to dig into her like this :plzstop:
I really hope takari takes the coins from the book and gets therapy. Jackie has done a number on that baby emotionally and mentally.
I like Jackie on that show, but I don't fault anyone for finding her disgusting and inhumane for this.
!!!!!!!
>>>>>>><<<<<<<<
Love Jackie's character, but as a person, she is really fucked in the head. And !!!! at "prized light skin baby". I also think she wanted Doug so bad that she acted ashamed, because Takari was a constant reminder to her & Doug that she busted it open in a previous relationship. And I'm sure she was desperate to try and keep him. And still is!
What's more telling is how adamant Chantal is in both clips of what a terrible mother Jackie was. Funny how now she's morphed into Jackie Jr.
It's starting to make sense why Doug moved down the road and insisted his son moves too. Jackie is def unfit to be raising anyone.
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 12:41:34 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Sleigh, bae.
https://youtu.be/7UIC1FNlunc
They dug in the vaults and posted the actual therapy scene. The way Jackie told them both she doesn't give a fuck as Takari sobbed DOWN has me hiding Jackie's liquor at the Angel Brinks event! :kii: :kii: :kii:
This girl is terrified of this woman!
Yikes. I forgot this happen. Wow vh1 is stomping all over her bad mother wig.
For her prized light skin baby to dig into her like this :plzstop:
I really hope takari takes the coins from the book and gets therapy. Jackie has done a number on that baby emotionally and mentally.
I like Jackie on that show, but I don't fault anyone for finding her disgusting and inhumane for this.
!!!!!!!
>>>>>>><<<<<<<<
Love Jackie's character, but as a person, she is really fucked in the head. And !!!! at "prized light skin baby". I also think she wanted Doug so bad that she acted ashamed, because Takari was a constant reminder to her & Doug that she busted it open in a previous relationship. And I'm sure she was desperate to try and keep him. And still is!
What's more telling is how adamant Chantal is in both clips of what a terrible mother Jackie was. Funny how now she's morphed into Jackie Jr.
It's starting to make sense why Doug moved down the road and insisted his son moves too. Jackie is def unfit to be raising anyone.
!!!!!
OKAY!
What father demands he take his son? You just know Doug is dicking someone down. I really think he has a longtime side piece. Ain't no way!
Quote from: .betterwiseup on August 12, 2017, 11:36:32 AM
I don't see the problem Evelyn putting Jackie ass on blast about how she mistreat her daughter. Somebody had to the do it.
Well did you see it as a problem when the same was done to Draya? I mean.
Draya never got a pass. She admitted to her mess and worked hard to rebrand herself.
Nobody defended draya being a bad mother. We just weren't here for the girls slutshaming her especially not the govan whores who fuck each other's men.
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Draya never got a pass. She admitted to her mess and worked hard to rebrand herself.
Nobody defended draya being a bad mother. We just weren't here for the girls slutshaming her especially not the govan whores who fuck each other's men.
Chile no. She never admitted to anything. She said the incident wasn't true
A lot of people didn't like the fact that Laura and nem were ganging up on Draya about her son. A lot of people were on her side with that. I feel the same way then as I do now.
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Draya never got a pass. She admitted to her mess and worked hard to rebrand herself.
Nobody defended draya being a bad mother. We just weren't here for the girls slutshaming her especially not the govan whores who fuck each other's men.
Chile no. She never admitted to anything. She said the incident wasn't true
A lot of people didn't like the fact that Laura and nem were ganging up on Draya about her son. A lot of people were on her side with that. I feel the same way then as I do now.
RIGHT!
Not she admitted to it :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 01:14:14 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Draya never got a pass. She admitted to her mess and worked hard to rebrand herself.
Nobody defended draya being a bad mother. We just weren't here for the girls slutshaming her especially not the govan whores who fuck each other's men.
Chile no. She never admitted to anything. She said the incident wasn't true
A lot of people didn't like the fact that Laura and nem were ganging up on Draya about her son. A lot of people were on her side with that. I feel the same way then as I do now.
RIGHT!
Not she admitted to it :dead:
Vonc plea. Draya was a teen mom and made a mistake. Jackie still acting like she did nothing wrong.
It's not even remotely the same situation.
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
I don't know the older episodes of BBW, what happened with Draya?
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:15:23 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 01:14:14 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Draya never got a pass. She admitted to her mess and worked hard to rebrand herself.
Nobody defended draya being a bad mother. We just weren't here for the girls slutshaming her especially not the govan whores who fuck each other's men.
Chile no. She never admitted to anything. She said the incident wasn't true
A lot of people didn't like the fact that Laura and nem were ganging up on Draya about her son. A lot of people were on her side with that. I feel the same way then as I do now.
RIGHT!
Not she admitted to it :dead:
Vonc plea. Draya was a teen mom and made a mistake. Jackie still acting like she did nothing wrong.
It's not even remotely the same situation.
You said she admitted it and she never admitted to shit hun. She just denied the shit ever happened.
At the end of the day, NOBODY is defending Jackie's actions. We don't feel like it's Ev's place to speak on shit and it's not. I 100 percent believe Takari, especially considering the fact that Chantel confirmed it years ago. However, EVELYN is out of place here imo, just like Laura was out of place with Draya.
Quote from: BowDown on August 12, 2017, 01:16:50 PM
I don't know the older episodes of BBW, what happened with Draya?
At the time, there were reports on the blogs that the police were called on her for child neglect. She was out in the strip clubs all night, and her son has to climb through the window or some mess to get into the house. Neighbors called the cops and the house was a filthy mess with dog piss and shit everywhere. He also would feed himself warming up a TV dinner every night. The girls brought all this to her in season 1, and it really broke her down. She denied it.
There was a police report, but no one ever proved its validity.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:15:23 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 01:14:14 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Draya never got a pass. She admitted to her mess and worked hard to rebrand herself.
Nobody defended draya being a bad mother. We just weren't here for the girls slutshaming her especially not the govan whores who fuck each other's men.
Chile no. She never admitted to anything. She said the incident wasn't true
A lot of people didn't like the fact that Laura and nem were ganging up on Draya about her son. A lot of people were on her side with that. I feel the same way then as I do now.
RIGHT!
Not she admitted to it :dead:
Vonc plea. Draya was a teen mom and made a mistake. Jackie still acting like she did nothing wrong.
It's not even remotely the same situation.
These situations are parallel. Bitches butting into people's family business when they shouldnt. The only difference is apparently your stance :dead:
It was dumb then and it's dumb now but u go ahead and continue trying to make one more justified than the other
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:17:35 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:15:23 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 01:14:14 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Draya never got a pass. She admitted to her mess and worked hard to rebrand herself.
Nobody defended draya being a bad mother. We just weren't here for the girls slutshaming her especially not the govan whores who fuck each other's men.
Chile no. She never admitted to anything. She said the incident wasn't true
A lot of people didn't like the fact that Laura and nem were ganging up on Draya about her son. A lot of people were on her side with that. I feel the same way then as I do now.
RIGHT!
Not she admitted to it :dead:
Vonc plea. Draya was a teen mom and made a mistake. Jackie still acting like she did nothing wrong.
It's not even remotely the same situation.
You said she admitted it and she never admitted to shit hun. She just denied the shit ever happened.
Draya admitted she left her son home alone. And it's not giving her props it was on the fucking documented files. It's not like she could deny it when we seen the paperwork.
Jackie is STILL out here denying she ever did anything wrong. She find her image more important than her children
If she could buy kari the way she bough Chan to be back in her corner she would. She's a monster.
Love her on the show. Can't stand her as a person :cheerup:
And can we pause for a second.
I'm screaming at Shaunie acting shocked & appalled by the allegations like she wasn't EP on the season of these clips posted.
Girl, this ain't brand new information.
Fake self!
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:19:22 PM
Quote from: BowDown on August 12, 2017, 01:16:50 PM
I don't know the older episodes of BBW, what happened with Draya?
At the time, there were reports on the blogs that the police were called on her for child neglect. She was out in the strip clubs all night, and her son has to climb through the window or some mess to get into the house. Neighbors called the cops and the house was a filthy mess with dog piss and shit everywhere. He also would feed himself warming up a TV dinner every night. The girls brought all this to her in season 1, and it really broke her down. She denied it.
There was a police report, but no one ever proved its validity.
Oh damn, thanks!
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:17:35 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:15:23 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 01:14:14 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Draya never got a pass. She admitted to her mess and worked hard to rebrand herself.
Nobody defended draya being a bad mother. We just weren't here for the girls slutshaming her especially not the govan whores who fuck each other's men.
Chile no. She never admitted to anything. She said the incident wasn't true
A lot of people didn't like the fact that Laura and nem were ganging up on Draya about her son. A lot of people were on her side with that. I feel the same way then as I do now.
RIGHT!
Not she admitted to it :dead:
Vonc plea. Draya was a teen mom and made a mistake. Jackie still acting like she did nothing wrong.
It's not even remotely the same situation.
You said she admitted it and she never admitted to shit hun. She just denied the shit ever happened.
Draya admitted she left her son home alone. And it's not giving her props it was on the fucking documented files. It's not like she could deny it when we seen the paperwork.
Jackie is STILL out here denying she ever did anything wrong. She find her image more important than her children
If she could buy kari the way she bough Chan to be back in her corner she would. She's a monster.
Love her on the show. Can't stand her as a person :cheerup:
She never admitted to leaving him home dear. I've watched this show from the beginning and she never said that. Let me find this damns clip.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:27:07 PM
And can we pause for a second.
I'm screaming at Shaunie acting shocked & appalled by the allegations like she wasn't EP on the season of these clips posted.
Girl, this ain't brand new information.
Fake self!
:omgwatshappening:
Shaunie been fake, but y'all stayed going up for the piglet nose ass bitch.
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:30:35 PM
Shaunie been fake, but y'all stayed going up for the piglet nose ass bitch.
bcdbbddbdd
I don't think anyone uses Shaunie tho..
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
I like shaunie :cheerup:
I live for the mess she gets away with and how uppity she acts
Quote from: BowDown on August 12, 2017, 01:31:16 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:30:35 PM
Shaunie been fake, but y'all stayed going up for the piglet nose ass bitch.
bcdbbddbdd
I don't think anyone uses Shaunie tho..
Okay!
Never seen anyone going up.
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
EXACTLY! Kids are off limits but uve been actively communicating with mine all season in an effort to get at me. It's bullshit
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
I like shaunie :cheerup:
I live for the mess she gets away with and how uppity she acts
JNNBBHBBBVvvccccxxxdfff
r u marlon
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:31:42 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:30:35 PM
Shaunie been fake, but y'all stayed going up for the piglet nose ass bitch.
Nah no one likes shaunie. One kinda changed their tune but ugh at them in general tbh :dead:
And maybe rig but he be trolling and dont even watch this damn show
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: BowDown on August 12, 2017, 01:31:16 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:30:35 PM
Shaunie been fake, but y'all stayed going up for the piglet nose ass bitch.
bcdbbddbdd
I don't think anyone uses Shaunie tho..
Okay!
Never seen anyone going up.
Some of you guys was living during that Brandi ordeal. But I guess y'all just didn't like the bitch no way so hey.
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
I like shaunie :cheerup:
I live for the mess she gets away with and how uppity she acts
Oh and u i guess but u like Evelyn so :dead:
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
I like shaunie :cheerup:
I live for the mess she gets away with and how uppity she acts
JNNBBHBBBVvvccccxxxdfff
r u marlon
I like the cast tbh. Bring back sen'niyah n get rid of christen.
Hell bring back Sundy too. :cheerup:
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:31:42 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
I like shaunie :cheerup:
I live for the mess she gets away with and how uppity she acts
Oh and u i guess but u like Evelyn so :dead:
And I like Jackie on the show too.
I'm here for the mess. :cheerup:
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Sleigh, bae.
https://youtu.be/7UIC1FNlunc
They dug in the vaults and posted the actual therapy scene. The way Jackie told them both she doesn't give a fuck as Takari sobbed DOWN has me hiding Jackie's liquor at the Angel Brinks event! :kii: :kii: :kii:
This girl is terrified of this woman!
Ew, she's the worst kind of person...the type that never thinks they're wrong.
Her daughters need to end their relationship with her until she shows some kind of remorse or change.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:38:05 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:31:42 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
I like shaunie :cheerup:
I live for the mess she gets away with and how uppity she acts
Oh and u i guess but u like Evelyn so :dead:
And I like Jackie on the show too.
I'm here for the mess. :cheerup:
Well when u put out like that :cheerup:
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:37:39 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
I like shaunie :cheerup:
I live for the mess she gets away with and how uppity she acts
JNNBBHBBBVvvccccxxxdfff
r u marlon
I like the cast tbh. Bring back sen'niyah n get rid of christen.
Hell bring back Sundy too. :cheerup:
Cristen is the absolute worst! :x. That scene when she was in the park asking her "man" if he misses that "doggy".
MNNBHBBBBBbbbbbbbbvbbv
UGH!
And maybe now that Evelyn dumped Carl, she'll stop pretending to be a fairy princess next season and really bring the MESS!
But shaunie doesnt even really do anything for the show imo........well i guess she's the in between that runs shit back. I guess thats useful
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:38:05 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:31:42 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
I mean, the point is pretty clear :dead:
communicating with "kids" (all involved are grown and can make their own decisions)
is not the same as insulting kids
that is like the dumbest comparison :kii:
the only reason Jackie has an issue with Eve talking to Takari is because its about exposing her as a bad mother
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:40:24 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:37:39 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
I like shaunie :cheerup:
I live for the mess she gets away with and how uppity she acts
JNNBBHBBBVvvccccxxxdfff
r u marlon
I like the cast tbh. Bring back sen'niyah n get rid of christen.
Hell bring back Sundy too. :cheerup:
Cristen is the absolute worst! :x. That scene when she was in the park asking her "man" if he misses that "doggy".
MNNBHBBBBBbbbbbbbbvbbv
UGH!
And maybe now that Evelyn dumped Carl, she'll stop pretending to be a fairy princess next season and really bring the MESS!
We'll see her thotting n bopping again ...can't wait.
Oh and Bonnie can go too. She's a poor man's Suzie.
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:38:05 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:31:42 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Quote from: AYR on August 12, 2017, 01:42:01 PM
communicating with "kids" (all involved are grown and can make their own decisions)
is not the same as insulting kids
that is like the dumbest comparison :kii:
the only reason Jackie has an issue with Eve talking to Takari is because its about exposing her as a bad mother
Oop!
Drag their faulty biased logic.
If Jackie was truly about her Fam she would've met Evelyn that time smacked her with 3 stacks and 5 benji's and told her stay out my family mess.
Jackie is the one that opened the door for ppl to fuck with her. If her grudge wasn't more important than her family there wouldn't have been a go fund me page.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on August 12, 2017, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Sleigh, bae.
https://youtu.be/7UIC1FNlunc
They dug in the vaults and posted the actual therapy scene. The way Jackie told them both she doesn't give a fuck as Takari sobbed DOWN has me hiding Jackie's liquor at the Angel Brinks event! :kii: :kii: :kii:
This girl is terrified of this woman!
Ew, she's the worst kind of person...the type that never thinks they're wrong.
Her daughters need to end their relationship with her until she shows some kind of remorse or change.
Okay!
And you got people in here excusing and defending this mess!
Dont call it out! Family business!Did me and you not just watch it? :kii:
Love seeing this abusive monster go up in flames!
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:42:37 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:38:05 PM
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Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
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Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Boy please. As many times as I've dragged Jackie for her bullshit in the past.
And you're damn right, I sure as hell DON'T like Evelyn AT ALL. But that's no my reasoning for feeling the way I do. I don't care who it is. Dont' involve yourself in someone else's situation especially regarding family.
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Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
I mean, the point is pretty clear :dead:
But wanna call me biased when they defend everything this bitch do. But DEW!
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:45:28 PM
If Jackie was truly about her Fam she would've met Evelyn that time smacked her with 3 stacks and 5 benji's and told her stay out my family mess.
Jackie is the one that opened the door for ppl to fuck with her. If her grudge wasn't more important than her family there wouldn't have been a go fund me page.
Thank you!
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Draya never got a pass. She admitted to her mess and worked hard to rebrand herself.
Nobody defended draya being a bad mother. We just weren't here for the girls slutshaming her especially not the govan whores who fuck each other's men.
Chile no. She never admitted to anything. She said the incident wasn't true
A lot of people didn't like the fact that Laura and nem were ganging up on Draya about her son. A lot of people were on her side with that. I feel the same way then as I do now.
omf that had me fuming when it aired :plzstop:
the way they all ganged up on her and she was crying her eyes out. And Jackie was the main one leading the brigade all while her own daughters can't stand to be around her ass.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: AYR on August 12, 2017, 01:42:01 PM
communicating with "kids" (all involved are grown and can make their own decisions)
is not the same as insulting kids
that is like the dumbest comparison :kii:
the only reason Jackie has an issue with Eve talking to Takari is because its about exposing her as a bad mother
Oop!
Drag their faulty biased logic.
:dead: :dead:
and the Draya thing would only compare if her son was coming to them telling them Draya mistreated him like Takari
these girls went to the internet and googled to find what they did on Draya
2 totally different things
Scott let it ride. Ur arguing apples and oranges at this point :dead:
Who in here is excusing what Jackie did? Nobody said anything about Takari lying. Y'all are really seeing what the fuck y'all want to see.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 01:48:25 PM
Scott let it ride. Ur arguing apples and oranges at this point :dead:
:dead:
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The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Boy please. As many times as I've dragged Jackie for her bullshit in the past.
And you're damn right, I sure as hell DON'T like Evelyn AT ALL. But that's no my reasoning for feeling the way I do. I don't care who it is. Dont' involve yourself in someone else's situation especially regarding family.
It's no longer family business when the family is on GoFundMe making it a public matter.
If Jackie was being a good mother, Evelyn wouldn't have had to do it for her.
And that's the bottom line.
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Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Draya never got a pass. She admitted to her mess and worked hard to rebrand herself.
Nobody defended draya being a bad mother. We just weren't here for the girls slutshaming her especially not the govan whores who fuck each other's men.
Chile no. She never admitted to anything. She said the incident wasn't true
A lot of people didn't like the fact that Laura and nem were ganging up on Draya about her son. A lot of people were on her side with that. I feel the same way then as I do now.
omf that had me fuming when it aired :plzstop:
the way they all ganged up on her and she was crying her eyes out. And Jackie was the main one leading the brigade all while her own daughters can't stand to be around her ass.
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Yummy, this effortless fucking CLOCK!
I'm screaming!
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:49:47 PM
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Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Boy please. As many times as I've dragged Jackie for her bullshit in the past.
And you're damn right, I sure as hell DON'T like Evelyn AT ALL. But that's no my reasoning for feeling the way I do. I don't care who it is. Dont' involve yourself in someone else's situation especially regarding family.
It's no longer family business when the family is on GoFundMe making it a public matter.
If Jackie was being a good mother, Evelyn wouldn't have had to do it for her.
And that's the bottom line.
My argument ain't about whether Jackie was a good or bad mother, when I clearly stated that I believe every word Takari said. You constantly putting words in my mouth. But I'm done.
Quote from: AYR on August 12, 2017, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: AYR on August 12, 2017, 01:42:01 PM
communicating with "kids" (all involved are grown and can make their own decisions)
is not the same as insulting kids
that is like the dumbest comparison :kii:
the only reason Jackie has an issue with Eve talking to Takari is because its about exposing her as a bad mother
Oop!
Drag their faulty biased logic.
:dead: :dead:
and the Draya thing would only compare if her son was coming to them telling them Draya mistreated him like Takari
these girls went to the internet and googled to find what they did on Draya
2 totally different things
Ray, I thought I was going crazy!
It's pretty fucking simple!
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:49:47 PM
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Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Boy please. As many times as I've dragged Jackie for her bullshit in the past.
And you're damn right, I sure as hell DON'T like Evelyn AT ALL. But that's no my reasoning for feeling the way I do. I don't care who it is. Dont' involve yourself in someone else's situation especially regarding family.
It's no longer family business when the family is on GoFundMe making it a public matter.
If Jackie was being a good mother, Evelyn wouldn't have had to do it for her.
And that's the bottom line.
not only that but its not like Eve and Jackie, Doug, Chantel etc were in contact and she was going back & forth within the family members. She talked to the girl donated money to her GoFundMe, read her book
like any of us could, so I guess we ALL are in her business
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Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Boy please. As many times as I've dragged Jackie for her bullshit in the past.
And you're damn right, I sure as hell DON'T like Evelyn AT ALL. But that's no my reasoning for feeling the way I do. I don't care who it is. Dont' involve yourself in someone else's situation especially regarding family.
It's no longer family business when the family is on GoFundMe making it a public matter.
If Jackie was being a good mother, Evelyn wouldn't have had to do it for her.
And that's the bottom line.
My argument ain't about whether Jackie was a good or bad mother, when I clearly stated that I believe every word Takari said. You constantly putting words in my mouth. But I'm done.
I haven't seen you make a valid point yet, tbh.
Jackie chose to talk about this on the show and make it a storyline from episode 1. Evelyn never brought it up. And Jackie continued to tell everyone who would listen that Evelyn donated to Takari.
So, she can blame herself.
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Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Boy please. As many times as I've dragged Jackie for her bullshit in the past.
And you're damn right, I sure as hell DON'T like Evelyn AT ALL. But that's no my reasoning for feeling the way I do. I don't care who it is. Dont' involve yourself in someone else's situation especially regarding family.
It's no longer family business when the family is on GoFundMe making it a public matter.
If Jackie was being a good mother, Evelyn wouldn't have had to do it for her.
And that's the bottom line.
My argument ain't about whether Jackie was a good or bad mother, when I clearly stated that I believe every word Takari said. You constantly putting words in my mouth. But I'm done.
I haven't seen you make a valid point yet, tbh.
Jackie chose to talk about this on the show and make it a storyline from episode 1. Evelyn never brought it up. And Jackie continued to tell everyone who would listen that Evelyn donated to Takari.
So, she can blame herself.
I'm really not trying to make a point for you to find. I'm just merely saying what I feel and believe, so you don't have to "see" it.
And since you're bringing up the donation. Let's be clear. Jackie and Evelyn had already resolved that issue. Cause TAMI really tried to create the drama saying that Evelyn said something about Jackie being a bad mother and Evelyn denied. They were done with it.
Evelyn decided to come for Jackie in defense of grown ass Bonnie-Jill and created all of that mess and then at that party, Jackie confronted Evelyn and skipped away and Evelyn said something about "Take care of your grandkids heffah!" and Tami came back and told JACKIE that she said "take care of your daughter" and then that's when Jackie brought up the build-a-whore thing and it snowballed.
Jackie was over the donation situation until Evelyn tried to play save a hoe for Bonnie-Jill. But whatever.
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The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Boy please. As many times as I've dragged Jackie for her bullshit in the past.
And you're damn right, I sure as hell DON'T like Evelyn AT ALL. But that's no my reasoning for feeling the way I do. I don't care who it is. Dont' involve yourself in someone else's situation especially regarding family.
It's no longer family business when the family is on GoFundMe making it a public matter.
If Jackie was being a good mother, Evelyn wouldn't have had to do it for her.
And that's the bottom line.
My argument ain't about whether Jackie was a good or bad mother, when I clearly stated that I believe every word Takari said. You constantly putting words in my mouth. But I'm done.
I haven't seen you make a valid point yet, tbh.
Jackie chose to talk about this on the show and make it a storyline from episode 1. Evelyn never brought it up. And Jackie continued to tell everyone who would listen that Evelyn donated to Takari.
So, she can blame herself.
I'm really not trying to make a point for you to find. I'm just merely saying what I feel and believe, so you don't have to "see" it.
And since you're bringing up the donation. Let's be clear. Jackie and Evelyn had already resolved that issue. Cause TAMI really tried to create the drama saying that Evelyn said something about Jackie being a bad mother and Evelyn denied. They were done with it.
Evelyn decided to come for Jackie in defense of grown ass Bonnie-Jill and created all of that mess and then at that party, Jackie confronted Evelyn and skipped away and Evelyn said something about "Take care of your grandkids heffah!" and Tami came back and told JACKIE that she said "take care of your daughter" and then that's when Jackie brought up the build-a-whore thing and it snowballed.
Jackie was over the donation situation until Evelyn tried to play save a hoe for Bonnie-Jill. But whatever.
Which is what brings me to my original point. Jackie came in to Evelyn's event acting a damn fool. And Evelyn called her out. Don't try to clown in front of the girls and think your tea is safe.
You're still on this right vs wrong thing when I have been saying they're all wrong if we're gonna go there.
But yeah. We both see it differently.
And that obviously ain't changing!
Scotty!!!!!!
Let it ride :kii:
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The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Boy please. As many times as I've dragged Jackie for her bullshit in the past.
And you're damn right, I sure as hell DON'T like Evelyn AT ALL. But that's no my reasoning for feeling the way I do. I don't care who it is. Dont' involve yourself in someone else's situation especially regarding family.
It's no longer family business when the family is on GoFundMe making it a public matter.
If Jackie was being a good mother, Evelyn wouldn't have had to do it for her.
And that's the bottom line.
My argument ain't about whether Jackie was a good or bad mother, when I clearly stated that I believe every word Takari said. You constantly putting words in my mouth. But I'm done.
I haven't seen you make a valid point yet, tbh.
Jackie chose to talk about this on the show and make it a storyline from episode 1. Evelyn never brought it up. And Jackie continued to tell everyone who would listen that Evelyn donated to Takari.
So, she can blame herself.
I'm really not trying to make a point for you to find. I'm just merely saying what I feel and believe, so you don't have to "see" it.
And since you're bringing up the donation. Let's be clear. Jackie and Evelyn had already resolved that issue. Cause TAMI really tried to create the drama saying that Evelyn said something about Jackie being a bad mother and Evelyn denied. They were done with it.
Evelyn decided to come for Jackie in defense of grown ass Bonnie-Jill and created all of that mess and then at that party, Jackie confronted Evelyn and skipped away and Evelyn said something about "Take care of your grandkids heffah!" and Tami came back and told JACKIE that she said "take care of your daughter" and then that's when Jackie brought up the build-a-whore thing and it snowballed.
Jackie was over the donation situation until Evelyn tried to play save a hoe for Bonnie-Jill. But whatever.
You're still on this right vs wrong thing
But yeah. We both see it differently.
And that obviously ain't changing!
It's not going to change which is why I said to you already, let me stay on my stance with what's right or wrong and you stay on yours with the mess. Conversation could've been done.
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The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Boy please. As many times as I've dragged Jackie for her bullshit in the past.
And you're damn right, I sure as hell DON'T like Evelyn AT ALL. But that's no my reasoning for feeling the way I do. I don't care who it is. Dont' involve yourself in someone else's situation especially regarding family.
It's no longer family business when the family is on GoFundMe making it a public matter.
If Jackie was being a good mother, Evelyn wouldn't have had to do it for her.
And that's the bottom line.
not only that but its not like Eve and Jackie, Doug, Chantel etc were in contact and she was going back & forth within the family members. She talked to the girl donated money to her GoFundMe, read her book
like any of us could, so I guess we ALL are in her business
You'd think it was rocket science!
:kii:
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Scotty!!!!!!
Let it ride :kii:
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I'm done. :dead:
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The Draya thing is tricky. Was that police report real? To this day, Dray says it wasn't.
Did we ever get proof?
Nope. It's still a mystery.
I think that's what makes this situation different. I totally see your point, though. Draya was trifling as hell if it was true. The boy crawling into the damn house with dog shit & piss everywhere. Feeding himself while she's out thottin & boppin.
But no one ever was able to prove it, and that makes me think maybe there's some truth to what she was saying?
Jackie, on the other hand, has both of her daughters telling us she was an abusive monster.
But whether she was really a monster or not isn't the issue here for me, Vonc or anyone that's on the opposing side. That's far from it. We're NOT saying Jackie didn't do the things Takari said she did.
Well, that's strictly what I'm talking about.
The argument about Evelyn being able to use the info is kinda debatable. It's all reads at the end of the day. And Jackie has done much of the same over the years. Especially her first couple of seasons.
I just feel like when you constantly immerse yourself in mess, make sure your house is clean. Because the girls will unlock your front door.
The same could go for Evelyn too though. She's no one's saint. My issue with this is the fact that everyone says that kids is off limits, but yet Evelyn walking around constantly speaking on Takari and talking to the girl knowing she got a beef with Jackie.
If I got beef with somebody, you won't see me using their kids as a bait. I don't care how much I hate you, it's a boundary
I think you guys get so caught up in a who's right mess, where I just personally see it as everyone being messy as hell! Which is why I'm not passionate one way or the other. Jackie hopped in Evelyn's event being messy trying to address MESS when it wasn't the time or place. And Evelyn hit with the low blow. Jackie retaliated by returning the favor. And so on and so forth.
It's all just messy! I don't see one read worse than the other.
kids off limits!
n
Please! It's reality TV.
So, yeah. I haven't chosen a side in the Kidsgate mess. This ain't new info. Jackie's kids told us years ago she's a horrible mother. And I like to drag her for it!
Kinda like Evelyn.
Okay that's fine. So let my stance be about what I feel is right and you can stay about the mess.
Your stance can be whatever you want it to be. But be clear comparing Draya's situation ain't the same when there is zero proof she was a bad mother.
OH MY GOD.
I'm saying I didn't like the fact that they ganged up on Draya about the situation at hand and I feel the same way about Jackie. Whether it's true or not. I don't see why y'all can't see what I'm saying. I'm not looking for proof on anything. I just don't like it when people stick their noses in a situation that's not their business. Proof or no proof
You got a lot of nerve when Jackie stays in mess and other people's business 24/7.
You just don't like Evelyn and you were dragging her before episode 1 even aired.
Biased self.
Boy please. As many times as I've dragged Jackie for her bullshit in the past.
And you're damn right, I sure as hell DON'T like Evelyn AT ALL. But that's no my reasoning for feeling the way I do. I don't care who it is. Dont' involve yourself in someone else's situation especially regarding family.
It's no longer family business when the family is on GoFundMe making it a public matter.
If Jackie was being a good mother, Evelyn wouldn't have had to do it for her.
And that's the bottom line.
My argument ain't about whether Jackie was a good or bad mother, when I clearly stated that I believe every word Takari said. You constantly putting words in my mouth. But I'm done.
I haven't seen you make a valid point yet, tbh.
Jackie chose to talk about this on the show and make it a storyline from episode 1. Evelyn never brought it up. And Jackie continued to tell everyone who would listen that Evelyn donated to Takari.
So, she can blame herself.
I'm really not trying to make a point for you to find. I'm just merely saying what I feel and believe, so you don't have to "see" it.
And since you're bringing up the donation. Let's be clear. Jackie and Evelyn had already resolved that issue. Cause TAMI really tried to create the drama saying that Evelyn said something about Jackie being a bad mother and Evelyn denied. They were done with it.
Evelyn decided to come for Jackie in defense of grown ass Bonnie-Jill and created all of that mess and then at that party, Jackie confronted Evelyn and skipped away and Evelyn said something about "Take care of your grandkids heffah!" and Tami came back and told JACKIE that she said "take care of your daughter" and then that's when Jackie brought up the build-a-whore thing and it snowballed.
Jackie was over the donation situation until Evelyn tried to play save a hoe for Bonnie-Jill. But whatever.
You're still on this right vs wrong thing
But yeah. We both see it differently.
And that obviously ain't changing!
It's not going to change which is why I said to you already, let me stay on my stance with what's right or wrong and you stay on yours with the mess. Conversation could've been done.
;
Boy, please.
Don't give yourself too much. No one argued your "stance". We simply stated that Draya's situation is not the same. Discussion doesn't mean anyone has intent on changing your beliefs.
Yeah.
Maybe you should let it ride.
I'm not giving myself anything lol. Just enjoy your day. Can't even agree to disagree in peace around here lol
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I'm not giving myself anything lol. Just enjoy your day 🙄
You too, Poopy! :wub: :kii:
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 02:12:22 PM
I'm not giving myself anything lol. Just enjoy your day 🙄
dsddssssddd
:whatfuneralbill:
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Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 02:12:22 PM
I'm not giving myself anything lol. Just enjoy your day 🙄
dsddssssddd
:whatfuneralbill:
he makes me sick :dead:
We never agree on shit but I am an Aquarius and he's not fond of my kind so there will always be a clash lol
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Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 02:12:22 PM
I'm not giving myself anything lol. Just enjoy your day 🙄
dsddssssddd
:whatfuneralbill:
he makes me sick :dead:
We never agree on shit but I am an Aquarius and he's not fond of my kind so there will always be a clash lol
:kii:
It's all love, boo.
I like the battles! :justabit:
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Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 02:12:22 PM
I'm not giving myself anything lol. Just enjoy your day 🙄
dsddssssddd
:whatfuneralbill:
he makes me sick :dead:
We never agree on shit but I am an Aquarius and he's not fond of my kind so there will always be a clash lol
Lemme go read up on your mess. It could be the reason my boot doesnt stray too far from ur neck
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 02:16:47 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 02:13:27 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 02:12:22 PM
I'm not giving myself anything lol. Just enjoy your day 🙄
dsddssssddd
:whatfuneralbill:
he makes me sick :dead:
We never agree on shit but I am an Aquarius and he's not fond of my kind so there will always be a clash lol
Lemme go read up on your mess. It could be the reason my boot doesnt stray too far from ur neck
Bitch
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 11:00:40 AM
https://instagram.com/p/BXqPvjaB8Hw/
:blessed:
Expose this demon whore. Fraudulent ass bitch!
This ill-built bitch loves to backpedal. Tam' HATES Demon HOEzada.
That long ass pause...sgsggfdgh
Quote from: M-Rocka on August 12, 2017, 03:07:31 PM
This ill-built bitch loves to backpedal. Tam' HATES Demon HOEzada.
That long ass pause...sgsggfdgh
M i only like u in these BBW threads. Ur terrible everywhere else :oof:
Things I would do to that host.
Just love a man in a suit :howfestive:
Quote from: M-Rocka on August 12, 2017, 03:07:31 PM
This ill-built bitch loves to backpedal. Tam' HATES Demon HOEzada.
That long ass pause...sgsggfdgh
welp that got cleared up quick
Shaunie is fake though
Jackie was over there WAITING for them to both roast her
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 03:10:54 PM
Things I would do to that host.
Just love a man in a suit :howfestive:
Ever since "The Weekend" dropped, you don't know how to act!
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:16:09 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 03:10:54 PM
Things I would do to that host.
Just love a man in a suit :howfestive:
Ever since "The Weekend" dropped, you don't know how to act!
Just reclaiming my thot time :tistheseas:
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 03:17:37 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:16:09 PM
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 03:10:54 PM
Things I would do to that host.
Just love a man in a suit :howfestive:
Ever since "The Weekend" dropped, you don't know how to act!
Just reclaiming my thot time :tistheseas:
:kii:
Quote from: M-Rocka on August 12, 2017, 03:07:31 PM
This ill-built bitch loves to backpedal. Tam' HATES Demon HOEzada.
That long ass pause...sgsggfdgh
Gggggg
:plzstop:
I am screaming.
I don't know why Evelyn tries to give this facade like she is Mary Magdeline
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 12, 2017, 03:09:49 PM
Quote from: M-Rocka on August 12, 2017, 03:07:31 PM
This ill-built bitch loves to backpedal. Tam' HATES Demon HOEzada.
That long ass pause...sgsggfdgh
M i only like u in these BBW threads. Ur terrible everywhere else :oof:
:dead: I guess I can return the favor Vonc because you're horrendous in these RHOA threads, but here I use you sis.
:ohwow: :ohwow:
The only snake on this season was Tami. And I'm tripping that no one called her out on her shit.
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
This is why I can't fuck with the Anti-Evelyn crew.
That's a damn lie.
And I can name 10 examples of how she wasn't neutral.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
This is why I can't fuck with the Anti-Evelyn crew.
That's a damn lie.
And I can name 10 examples of how she wasn't neutral.
And she started all the Jackie vs Evelyn mess.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
The only snake on this season was Tami. And I'm tripping that no one called her out on her shit.
Tami had her moments, but it doesn't take it away that Shaunie has been treacherous since the whole franchise started.
I just think Tami was playing the game smart. she has loyalty to Shaunie but she likes Jackie too.
I just HATE that she played along with this "Brandi can't sit with us" fuckery. Lol the funny thing is, Brandi is one girl on that show that has never backed down from Tami.
Quote from: Sl? on August 12, 2017, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
This is why I can't fuck with the Anti-Evelyn crew.
That's a damn lie.
And I can name 10 examples of how she wasn't neutral.
And she started all the Jackie vs Evelyn mess.
Not only started it, but kept it going every time it was over.
When Jackie & Evelyn first patched things up, Tami was FURIOUS with Jackie. Then, in the next 2 episodes, she makes up with Evelyn and starts DOGGING Jackie.
This thing was so PISSED & started all the mess. Only to sit back and pretend she's staying out of it.
Quote from: M-Rocka on August 12, 2017, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
The only snake on this season was Tami. And I'm tripping that no one called her out on her shit.
Tami had her moments, but it doesn't take it away that Shaunie has been treacherous since the whole franchise started.
I won't disagree with you there. I hate her ass!
And can we take a moment to SCREAM at Tami wanting to fight & throw Duffy off a balcony for saying she works with bigger artists than her daughter & her trash ass music? And started an imaginary beef with Brandi over it.
YET she's so "neutral" and thinks everyone should make up with the Takari situation.
This bitch is pure MESS, and I'd respect her more if she just came out and said "I don't fuck with Evelyn!"
She's too busy kissing Shaunie's ass and trying to stay on the show, though.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
This is why I can't fuck with the Anti-Evelyn crew.
That's a damn lie.
And I can name 10 examples of how she wasn't neutral.
How should Tami have conducted herself?
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
This is why I can't fuck with the Anti-Evelyn crew.
That's a damn lie.
And I can name 10 examples of how she wasn't neutral.
How should Tami have conducted herself?
I normally am long winded, but if you cannot see how messy and underhanded Tami was in this situation between Evelyn and Jackie, then there is no point in explaining.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:36:06 PM
And can we take a moment to SCREAM at Tami wanting to fight & throw Duffy off a balcony for saying she works with bigger artists than her daughter & her trash ass music? And started an imaginary beef with Brandi over it.
YET she's so "neutral" and thinks everyone should make up with the Takari situation.
This bitch is pure MESS, and I'd respect her more if she just came out and said "I don't fuck with Evelyn!"
She's too busy kissing Shaunie's ass and trying to stay on the show, though.
:letsmessfag:
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:37:31 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
This is why I can't fuck with the Anti-Evelyn crew.
That's a damn lie.
And I can name 10 examples of how she wasn't neutral.
How should Tami have conducted herself?
I normally am long winded, but if you cannot see how messy and underhanded Tami was in this situation between Evelyn and Jackie, then there is no point in explaining.
I'm not disagreeing that Tami instigated the situation initially but let's not act like Evelyn has her hands clean.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:33:40 PM
Quote from: M-Rocka on August 12, 2017, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
The only snake on this season was Tami. And I'm tripping that no one called her out on her shit.
Tami had her moments, but it doesn't take it away that Shaunie has been treacherous since the whole franchise started.
I won't disagree with you there. I hate her ass!
GOD, I want her and her bullnose stomped!!
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:40:10 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:37:31 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
This is why I can't fuck with the Anti-Evelyn crew.
That's a damn lie.
And I can name 10 examples of how she wasn't neutral.
How should Tami have conducted herself?
I normally am long winded, but if you cannot see how messy and underhanded Tami was in this situation between Evelyn and Jackie, then there is no point in explaining.
I'm not disagreeing that Tami instigated the situation initially but let's not act like Evelyn has her hands clean.
Ya'll always talking about Evelyn!
What does that have to do with Tami kicking up all the SHIT?
If I remember correctly, Tami and Evelyn patched their mess up TWICE! Once in the first episode at the 70's party. Then, Tami was sending "fake texts" and broken links to get the shit started!
Then, they patched it up again at the Doggy Daycare mess, and then Tami told Evelyn how fake and messy Jackie is.
Tami couldn't even keep up with her LIES!
:kii:
I wish they would bring Royce back
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:43:02 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:40:10 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:37:31 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
This is why I can't fuck with the Anti-Evelyn crew.
That's a damn lie.
And I can name 10 examples of how she wasn't neutral.
How should Tami have conducted herself?
I normally am long winded, but if you cannot see how messy and underhanded Tami was in this situation between Evelyn and Jackie, then there is no point in explaining.
I'm not disagreeing that Tami instigated the situation initially but let's not act like Evelyn has her hands clean.
Ya'll always talking about Evelyn!
What does that have to do with Tami kicking up all the SHIT?
If I remember correctly, Tami and Evelyn patched their mess up TWICE! Once in the first episode at the 70's party. Then, Tami was sending "fake texts" and broken links to get the shit started!
Then, they patched it up again at the Doggy Daycare mess, and then Tami told Evelyn how fake and messy Jackie is.
Tami couldn't even keep up with her LIES!
:kii:
I just said that she instigated Takari-gate.
And to add on, Tami really helped plant that seed in Evelyn's head that Jackie is MESSY!
And conspired with them to bust her out at Saniyyah's party.
It's just so hilarious this brand new "neutral" stance she has all of a sudden.
But whatever.
Ready for the reunion!
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
Honestly Tami was just as fake as Shaunie to me
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
Honestly Tami was just as fake as Shaunie to me
Scotty, we agree, bae.
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
Honestly Tami was just as fake as Shaunie to me
True. Im not applauding for that hoe because she got in line at the last minute
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
Honestly Tami was just as fake as Shaunie to me
Scotty, we agree, bae.
:dead: it won't be long before we fight again
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
Honestly Tami was just as fake as Shaunie to me
Scotty, we agree, bae.
:dead: it won't be long before we fight again
But you know I wuvs you!
I'm sure we'll be dragging Kenya's fake ass all through RHOA this season! :blessed:
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 05:04:18 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Scott. on August 12, 2017, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on August 12, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
I honestly think Tami was the most neutral this season.
Honestly Tami was just as fake as Shaunie to me
Scotty, we agree, bae.
:dead: it won't be long before we fight again
But you know I wuvs you!
I'm sure we'll be dragging Kenya's fake ass all through RHOA this season! :blessed:
and that's all that matters :letsmessfag:
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Sleigh, bae.
https://youtu.be/7UIC1FNlunc
They dug in the vaults and posted the actual therapy scene. The way Jackie told them both she doesn't give a fuck as Takari sobbed DOWN has me hiding Jackie's liquor at the Angel Brinks event! :kii: :kii: :kii:
This girl is terrified of this woman!
Wow this made me dislike Jackie.
She has no emotional connection to those kids and thinks that her emotional abuse is ok because she provided for them financially.
Quote from: GUCCI. on August 12, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Sleigh, bae.
https://youtu.be/7UIC1FNlunc
They dug in the vaults and posted the actual therapy scene. The way Jackie told them both she doesn't give a fuck as Takari sobbed DOWN has me hiding Jackie's liquor at the Angel Brinks event! :kii: :kii: :kii:
This girl is terrified of this woman!
omg