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:flamebroiled: king!!!!
Oh wait... Zaytoven?
ok flush this might slay a tad...
The snippets on his page sounds promising
Brandy, where you at? Everybody coming back sus
Sounds cute so far
Where?s Ray?? Lol
Following the Beyonce blueprint i see. Will it work? No.
Doesnt sound terrible. So we'll see.
Sounds decent
I heard that this is just a teaser & the album is coming early next year. The same ole JD/Bcox album mess but I hear the album does have some heat.
This sounds forced.
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KING!
I can?t wait he sounds GOOD
I wonder what song Jay is on or if Ush is actually on a new Jay track
This sounds pretty good so far though
Say What You Want>>>>
I (and millions of others) couldnt care less
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 11:27:13 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 11:19:14 AM
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KING!
I can?t wait he sounds GOOD
:omf: :omf: :omf: :omf: :omf: :omf: :omf: :omf:
King right back to riding KNOCK
As he should be lolz
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!!! Can?t believe he turns 40 in a couple days though
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Is he serious? He really tries to give a MALE Beyonc? tea.
I don't know how I feel about this. I want to support King tho.
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King is coming :gorlonfire:
Where's RAy?! :gorlonfire:
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Its time for some fckn MESS :stressed:
I'm sorry, but I just don't get excited for new music from him
And none of these snippets are moving me. They all sound late.
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 11, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
And none of these snippets are moving me. They all sound late.
PERIOD
Some of these lyrics are definitely about his ex-wife
open up King!
Usher is my fave
But I'm scared to listen to this and getting another uninspired, trying to keep up with whats hot project
He?s still tryna fit in and hop on waves huh?
Usher lost it a long time ago. :stressed:
I was kinda done with him after his second album. Even that Herpes Burn mess didn't move me that much.
Quote from: Cade on October 11, 2018, 12:58:49 PM
another uninspired, trying to keep up with whats hot project
Yea, that's what it is
Quote from: GLOC? on October 11, 2018, 01:02:48 PM
He?s still tryna fit in and hop on waves huh?
no, but I guess he can?t make current upbeat music
that?s illegal because he started in the 90s
Yeah King is slaying as per usual
I?m cringing at all these snippets
Eek
I?m disgusted
This shit is so ?tryna be young! Current?
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:08:50 PM
Can't wait to listen :stressed:
His last alber had so many solid KNOCKS
"Bump"
"Let Me"
"No Limit"
:gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
AND it had solid R&B songs too
ppl jumped to conclusions over No Limit
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:13:54 PM
It's an artist's job to keep up with trends to some extent, and put their own spin on it.
Whitney wasn't too good to hop on a Darkchild track
Michael was hee hee'ing it up over KNOCK
Am mean...it's not a new concept. Not even for the heavy hitters.
Make hot current music. Not some lazy popcorn mess.
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:12:40 PM
Should Usher be calling in Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis or something? :omf:
People dragged GODni for hopping on Darkchild tracks and "tryna keep up" but he gave her some of her most memorable tea.
ppl want that SAME Confessions sound still
then they?re gonna say it?s dated
King can?t win
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:13:54 PM
It's an artist's job to keep up with trends to some extent, and put their own spin on it.
Whitney wasn't too good to hop on a Darkchild track
Michael was hee hee'ing it up over KNOCK
Am mean...it's not a new concept. Not even for the heavy hitters.
Right.
These gorls just want a reason to hate.
As if hes in his 50s and mess
But then gorls like Bey get a pass? okay
Uhhhhh Michael was a pop artist and he always made that kinda music. Toni has always infused that kinda music in too so that's real moot. There's a difference between experimenting with different sounds but still remaining true to u and your artistry VS hopping on trends :dead:
Quote from: Young on October 11, 2018, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:13:54 PM
It's an artist's job to keep up with trends to some extent, and put their own spin on it.
Whitney wasn't too good to hop on a Darkchild track
Michael was hee hee'ing it up over KNOCK
Am mean...it's not a new concept. Not even for the heavy hitters.
Right.
These gorls just want a reason to hate.
As if hes in his 50s and mess
But then gorls like Bey get a pass? okay
She dont get a pass. We talked about her too BUT Beyonce does it better than usher. If ur gonna hop on trends atleast attempt to elevate the shit. Sorry Usher is wack af and no one is anticipating music from him :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Uhhhhh Michael was a pop artist and he always made that kinda music.
Beat It is Rock, Rock With You/PYT is R&B
Mike ALWAYS made pop? :dead:
He ain?t get in with Rodney in 2001 after Bran, and DC and everything? Ok
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:08:50 PM
Can't wait to listen :stressed:
His last alber had so many solid KNOCKS
"Bump"
"Let Me"
"No Limit"
:gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
AND it had solid R&B songs too
ppl jumped to conclusions over No Limit
>>><<<
I mean the album is actually solid AF
The Rivals,Tell Me, H2L trinity on the album is my standout
Tell Me is literally one of his best R&B works EVER
The snippets all sound like some Chris Brown/Trey Songz mess.
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 01:23:31 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Uhhhhh Michael was a pop artist and he always made that kinda music.
Beat It is Rock, Rock With You/PYT is R&B
Mike ALWAYS made pop? :dead:
He ain?t get in with Rodney in 2001 after Bran, and DC and everything? Ok
can someone check on Vonc ?? :gorlonfire:
The way he's getting KNOCKED upside the head with logic and facts
ACKKK
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 01:23:31 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Uhhhhh Michael was a pop artist and he always made that kinda music.
Beat It is Rock, Rock With You/PYT is R&B
Mike ALWAYS made pop? :dead:
He ain?t get in with Rodney in 2001 after Bran, and DC and everything? Ok
He said Michael hopped on knock and I'm saying that's the kinda music he ALWAYS made because he's a pop artist. It wasnt about him not trying different sounds. Michael Jackson remained true to who he was and THAT'S the difference. It Never seemed like Michael was trying sumn just to be popular. He brought who he was to his records. Usher doesnt have that. He's wack
It's not even that he's too old for these songs. They just suck, from what I've heard.
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:29:29 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Uhhhhh Michael was a pop artist and he always made that kinda music. Toni has always infused that kinda music in too so that's real moot. There's a difference between experimenting with different sounds but still remaining true to u and your artistry VS hopping on trends :dead:
I'm a Toni stan and I know for a fact that her older fans and critics accused her of trying to be hip and keep up with trends.
And you're wrong. Her style DID change from her debut - she began fully clothed singing R&B songs and uptempos and began stripping a bit during Secrets. Then said fuck it, took off ALL her clothes and hopped on knock with Darkchild for The Heat.
She was known for midtempos and ballads. Look at her most popular song for crying out loud.
Then hopped on Darkchild track and started mumbling a bit over KNOCK and getting much sexier as she focused less on growling vocals.
,
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:28:31 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 01:23:31 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Uhhhhh Michael was a pop artist and he always made that kinda music.
Beat It is Rock, Rock With You/PYT is R&B
Mike ALWAYS made pop? :dead:
He ain?t get in with Rodney in 2001 after Bran, and DC and everything? Ok
He said Michael hopped on knock and I'm saying that's the kinda music he ALWAYS made because he's a pop artist. It wasnt about him not trying different sounds. Michael Jackson remained true to who he was and THAT'S the difference. It Never seemed like Michael was trying sumn just to be popular. He brought who he was to his records. Usher doesnt have that. He's wack
it?s definitely a rose colored glasses thing
Mike made amazing music but he definitely did stuff to be popular I?m pretty sure Quincy Jones spoke on it before
Even Janet. He definitely went to top producers after others at times
Usher is not alone you just don?t like him
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Cade on October 11, 2018, 12:58:49 PM
another uninspired, trying to keep up with whats hot project
Yea, that's what it is
And he's pulling this surprise release so he doesn't have to do interviews explaining why he's giving the gorls HERPES.
As I listen to these snippets
I count like 2 really trendy ones
Let?s see how everything goes with this
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:29:29 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Uhhhhh Michael was a pop artist and he always made that kinda music. Toni has always infused that kinda music in too so that's real moot. There's a difference between experimenting with different sounds but still remaining true to u and your artistry VS hopping on trends :dead:
I'm a Toni stan and I know for a fact that her older fans and critics accused her of trying to be hip and keep up with trends.
And you're wrong. Her style DID change from her debut - she began fully clothed singing R&B songs and uptempos and began stripping a bit during Secrets.
She was known for midtempos and ballads. Look at her most popular song for crying out loud.
Then hopped on Darkchild track and started mumbling a bit over KNOCK and getting much sexier as she focused less on growling vocals.
But that's exactly the point. Toni's style changed because she was letting u know early who she was and not allowing herself to be put in a box. How can u say someone is KNOWN for something after releasing one album :plzstop:
And most of the time debut albums are the brainchild of THE LABEL, not the artist. So if anything, her sophmore album was more her and she's been singing those kinda songs forever. Making me high is one of her hugest records, so that invalidates everything u said. She didn't release ten albums of ballads and hop on darkchild trend later in her career. PLEASE :plzstop: :kii:
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:30:12 PM
I damn near VOMITED with this new album she put out.
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I think a lot of girls are so off base here. Every album Usher had the current Atlanta sound on it. He?s not chasing anything, he?s simply doing what he?s always done. I won?t be listening though. He?s trash.
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:34:54 PM
And even more recently, people got on her for hopping on this knock.
"Girl what you doin? This is not you! Stop tryna be something you not!"
Goddess RODE this mess for filth :scrumptious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDUf4Q-xl6Y
Queen sounded right at fucking HOME to me. :blessed:
People's disdain with this had nothing to do with anything other than this is terrible. Try again :kii:
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 01:32:23 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:28:31 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 01:23:31 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Uhhhhh Michael was a pop artist and he always made that kinda music.
Beat It is Rock, Rock With You/PYT is R&B
Mike ALWAYS made pop? :dead:
He ain?t get in with Rodney in 2001 after Bran, and DC and everything? Ok
He said Michael hopped on knock and I'm saying that's the kinda music he ALWAYS made because he's a pop artist. It wasnt about him not trying different sounds. Michael Jackson remained true to who he was and THAT'S the difference. It Never seemed like Michael was trying sumn just to be popular. He brought who he was to his records. Usher doesnt have that. He's wack
it?s definitely a rose colored glasses thing
Mike made amazing music but he definitely did stuff to be popular I?m pretty sure Quincy Jones spoke on it before
Even Janet. He definitely went to top producers after others at times
Usher is not alone you just don?t like him
I didn't say he didn't. What i said was it never FELT like it. And yes, usher is just wack, so there's that as well
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:40:05 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:36:54 PM
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:29:29 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Uhhhhh Michael was a pop artist and he always made that kinda music. Toni has always infused that kinda music in too so that's real moot. There's a difference between experimenting with different sounds but still remaining true to u and your artistry VS hopping on trends :dead:
I'm a Toni stan and I know for a fact that her older fans and critics accused her of trying to be hip and keep up with trends.
And you're wrong. Her style DID change from her debut - she began fully clothed singing R&B songs and uptempos and began stripping a bit during Secrets.
She was known for midtempos and ballads. Look at her most popular song for crying out loud.
Then hopped on Darkchild track and started mumbling a bit over KNOCK and getting much sexier as she focused less on growling vocals.
But that's exactly the point. Toni's style changed because she was letting u know early who she was and not allowing herself to be put in a box. How can u say someone is KNOWN for something after releasing one album :plzstop:
And most of the time debut albums are the brainchild of THE LABEL, not the artist. So if anything, her sophmore album was more her and she's been singing those kinda songs forever. Making me high is one of her hugest records, so that invalidates everything u said. She didn't release ten albums of ballads and hop on darkchild trend later in her career. PLEASE :plzstop: :kii:
But the same can be said for Usher.
What do you think "U Make Me Wanna" was? A tribute to India Arie?
The track is pretty damn similar to "You're Makin Me High".
He's a pop artist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQRzrnH6_HY
Did i say somewhere in here that usher was a neo soul artist or sumn :dead:
ATA, Peace Sign, You Decide, She Ain?t Tell Ya, Say What You Want
are all not even Trap, Migos sounding records btw
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:34:54 PM
And even more recently, people got on her for hopping on this knock.
"Girl what you doin? This is not you! Stop tryna be something you not!"
Goddess RODE this mess for filth :scrumptious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDUf4Q-xl6Y
Queen sounded right at fucking HOME to me. :blessed:
People's disdain with this had nothing to do with anything other than this is terrible. Try again :kii:
A lot of the conversation had a LOT to do with the style of music itself.
Note the title of this Wendy segment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVPP9KOT0Q
If ur gonna discuss sumn and expect to be taken seriously, never post a Wendy Williams video. She's infamously the most uninformed person ever. I'm not clicking this :dead:
Im very knowledgeable about Toni music, even moreso than u I'm sure, and no one was tripping over that because of anything other than it was terrible
As if these songs dont exist
And OTHERS like it :dead:
No one was shocked to hear toni on that
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:55:40 PM
I don't need tips on how to have a discussion about something, Vonc.
Apparently u do if ur posting clips from wendy williams. A person who knows nothing about music and musical artists outside of the gossip that surrounds them. Toni braxton has multiple rap infused tracks, so who would be surprised byb that terrible song she put out other than someone who doesnt know wtf they're talking about? Just sit this one out :plzstop:
Damns
So Ush' about to slay huh
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:55:40 PM
I don't need tips on how to have a discussion about something, Vonc.
You said "people's disdain" - is Wendy Williams not a person? Or would it be better if I posted a clip of a White woman expressing her opinion to support my point. I'm confused.
:plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Young on October 11, 2018, 02:13:48 PM
Damns
So Ush' about to slay huh
thats what I?m gathering
and he didn?t copy anyone on this EP
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 02:09:54 PM
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:55:40 PM
I don't need tips on how to have a discussion about something, Vonc.
Apparently u do if ur posting clips from wendy williams.
So when you said "people" you only meant a specific kind of people.
This oblivious thing is quite dumb. Imagine if we all started posting videos of people with extremely limited knowledge in order to attempt at proving a point :kii: :plzstop: :kii: :plzstop:
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: Young on October 11, 2018, 02:13:48 PM
Damns
So Ush' about to slay huh
thats what I?m gathering
and he didn?t copy anyone on this EP
Welp.
The verdict is in :letsmessfag:
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
Justin had him beat sonically and visually, but even HE'S late now :dead:
Usher was the stronger singer and dancer though
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
When he sold 1.1 million in his first week he wasn't relevant?
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
lies and more lies
The crunk wave and B Cox waves were made popular by Ush
Quote from: Young on October 11, 2018, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
When he sold 1.1 million in his first week he wasn't relevant?
Well the whole chilli scandal helped push that era
Where's the lasting influence or impact?
Yh he sold amazingly but it was a bunch of hot singles and a hot album
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:36:59 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
lies and more lies
The crunk wave and B Cox waves were made popular by Ush
The gorls say anything tbh
And the way He saw success crossing over into the Dance wave-- lots of gorls tried to follow suit
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:36:59 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
lies and more lies
The crunk wave and B Cox waves were made popular by Ush
d
ok
Quote from: Young on October 11, 2018, 02:38:34 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:36:59 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
lies and more lies
The crunk wave and B Cox waves were made popular by Ush
The gorls say anything tbh
And the way He saw success crossing over into the Dance wave-- lots of gorls tried to follow suit
Chris did that before him :dead:
Quote from: Young on October 11, 2018, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
When he sold 1.1 million in his first week he wasn't relevant?
9 #1 singles, 8 Grammys, influenced Chris, Mario, Trey and all these new R&B niggas
Never relevant? :plzstop:
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:36:59 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
lies and more lies
The crunk wave and B Cox waves were made popular by Ush
d
ok
what B Cox ballads came before U Got It Bad, and Burn?
Let me know bro :dead:
Not b.cox ballads being a legacy
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:43:10 PM
Not b.cox ballads being a legacy
you said he never set trends
and that is a musical trend that he started
now you?re trying to switch the topic to a legacy :dead:
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2018, 02:09:54 PM
Quote from: Black Power / Cherokee Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:55:40 PM
I don't need tips on how to have a discussion about something, Vonc.
Apparently u do if ur posting clips from wendy williams.
So when you said "people" you only meant a specific kind of people.
This oblivious thing is quite dumb.
Oblivious?
Yea, but that's usually ur go to when u dont know wtf ur talking about so I'm used to it
Ray been lashing dese niggaz to fckn DAY
ACK
There would be no We Belong Together, Be Without You etc if Usher didn?t make the sound popular
and Chris, Omarion, NE-YO, Trey, Jason Derulo etc would be singing Heal The World type stuff and dressing like Smooth Criminal If Usher didn?t come through in the 90s and 2000s and mix the MJ performance style with sex appeal
Usher doesn?t have a sound, really. No signature
that?s what always kinda hurt him IMO after confessions. I never know what to look forward to
Quote from: 1RIG on October 11, 2018, 02:51:15 PM
Usher doesn?t have a sound, really. No signature
that?s what always kinda hurt him IMO after confessions. I never know what to look forward to
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:50:28 PM
There would be no We Belong Together, Be Without You etc if Usher didn?t make the sound popular
and Chris, Omarion, NE-YO, Trey, Jason Derulo etc would be singing Heal The World type stuff and dressing like Smooth Criminal If Usher didn?t come through in the 90s and 2000s and mix the MJ performance style with sex appeal
:kii:
Usher is more signature visually with his dancing, and looks
and also being candid in his lyrics about his relationships
marrying Tameka and wilding out on TRL was really the issue
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
Usher is more signature visually with his dancing, and looks
and also being candid in his lyrics about his relationships
marrying Tameka and wilding out on TRL was really the issue
:kii:
Ray, everyone man (In America) dressed that like back then, you think Usher created fashion moments?
Styles?
:dead: :dead: :dead:
Men RARELY create fashion moments
and every R&B singer was "candid" about their personal life in their lyrics.
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:50:28 PM
There would be no We Belong Together, Be Without You etc if Usher didn?t make the sound popular
and Chris, Omarion, NE-YO, Trey, Jason Derulo etc would be singing Heal The World type stuff and dressing like Smooth Criminal If Usher didn?t come through in the 90s and 2000s and mix the MJ performance style with sex appeal
:kii:
when u have no rebuttal
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 11, 2018, 02:59:33 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Usher was never relevant musically, never set trends, or broke ground with his music.
& he's hitting 40, I'm not expecting anything amazing
Ok I meant to say he was never sonically relevant
Like if Confessions never came out you think the musical landscape would be so different?
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:50:28 PM
There would be no We Belong Together, Be Without You etc if Usher didn?t make the sound popular
and Chris, Omarion, NE-YO, Trey, Jason Derulo etc would be singing Heal The World type stuff and dressing like Smooth Criminal If Usher didn?t come through in the 90s and 2000s and mix the MJ performance style with sex appeal
:kii:
when u have no rebuttal
Read what you wrote hun'
I don't need a rebuttal
usher does need to carve out a SIGNATURE sound.
He's been so versatile that its been hard for listeners to really LATCH onto some mess.
That's his only issue
Like no one ever says oh this sounds like an Usher song! he copied Usher's dancing and style!
He's successful but unremarkable, he doesn't stand out
And didn't Usher shade Dance music at one point?
I can't remember what he said exactly.
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:02:14 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
Usher is more signature visually with his dancing, and looks
and also being candid in his lyrics about his relationships
marrying Tameka and wilding out on TRL was really the issue
:kii:
Ray, everyone man (In America) dressed that like back then, you think Usher created fashion moments?
Styles?
:dead: :dead: :dead:
Men RARELY create fashion moments
and every R&B singer was "candid" about their personal life in their lyrics.
he made certain styles popular and trendy. That?s what happens when you?re a popular sex symbol :dead:
and not everyone is always candid about their own relationships
Who else had their real girlfriend in all their videos when they were together? Then even after they broke up? And both albums were all about the relationships
Name 1
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:04:39 PM
Like no one ever says oh this sounds like an Usher song! he copied Usher's dancing and style!
He's successful but unremarkable, he doesn't stand out
Ive definitely seen Chris, Justin, Mario, Omarion etc be called for copying Ushers dancing and style
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:02:14 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
Usher is more signature visually with his dancing, and looks
and also being candid in his lyrics about his relationships
marrying Tameka and wilding out on TRL was really the issue
:kii:
Ray, everyone man (In America) dressed that like back then, you think Usher created fashion moments?
Styles?
:dead: :dead: :dead:
Men RARELY create fashion moments
and every R&B singer was "candid" about their personal life in their lyrics.
he made certain styles popular and trendy. That?s what happens when you?re a popular sex symbol :dead:
and not everyone is always candid about their own relationships
Who else had their real girlfriend in all their videos when they were together? Then even after they broke up? And both albums were all about the relationships
Name 1
what styles and fashion moments?
who cares what singer had their bitch in a damn music video :dead: :uhh:
Are you serious? :uhh:
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
Usher is more signature visually with his dancing, and looks
He is? :uhh:
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 03:06:17 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:04:39 PM
Like no one ever says oh this sounds like an Usher song! he copied Usher's dancing and style!
He's successful but unremarkable, he doesn't stand out
Ive definitely seen Chris, Justin, Mario, Omarion etc be called for copying Ushers dancing and style
I haven't
They're men, they all dance like the other, there's not a wide list of options for Male R&B singers to dance differently. :dead:
If Bey & Hov can hop on a Migos written record then why can?t uncle Usher young thug it up for 8 tracks?
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:06:24 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:02:14 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
Usher is more signature visually with his dancing, and looks
and also being candid in his lyrics about his relationships
marrying Tameka and wilding out on TRL was really the issue
:kii:
Ray, everyone man (In America) dressed that like back then, you think Usher created fashion moments?
Styles?
:dead: :dead: :dead:
Men RARELY create fashion moments
and every R&B singer was "candid" about their personal life in their lyrics.
he made certain styles popular and trendy. That?s what happens when you?re a popular sex symbol :dead:
and not everyone is always candid about their own relationships
Who else had their real girlfriend in all their videos when they were together? Then even after they broke up? And both albums were all about the relationships
Name 1
what styles and fashion moments?
who cares what singer had their bitch in a damn music video :dead: :uhh:
Are you serious? :uhh:
so only Usher was doing it and you don?t have a rebuttal ok thanks
That fitted, with the blazer and jeans look was made popular by Usher in the Yeah video in 04
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:06:24 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:02:14 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
Usher is more signature visually with his dancing, and looks
and also being candid in his lyrics about his relationships
marrying Tameka and wilding out on TRL was really the issue
:kii:
Ray, everyone man (In America) dressed that like back then, you think Usher created fashion moments?
Styles?
:dead: :dead: :dead:
Men RARELY create fashion moments
and every R&B singer was "candid" about their personal life in their lyrics.
he made certain styles popular and trendy. That?s what happens when you?re a popular sex symbol :dead:
and not everyone is always candid about their own relationships
Who else had their real girlfriend in all their videos when they were together? Then even after they broke up? And both albums were all about the relationships
Name 1
what styles and fashion moments?
who cares what singer had their bitch in a damn music video :dead: :uhh:
Are you serious? :uhh:
so only Usher was doing it and you don?t have a rebuttal ok thanks
That fitted, with the blazer and jeans look was made popular by Usher in the Yeah video in 04
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Mrd0ndada on October 11, 2018, 03:08:46 PM
If Bey & Hov can hop on a Migos written record then why can?t uncle Usher young thug it up for 8 tracks?
Because Beyonce SELLS it till you believe it
If anyone else did Apeshit & Formation it would be laughable :dead:
Usher just doesn't have that conviction and aura like she does.
His last album had some cute moments.
Hopefully this is good.
Herp self.
Not fitted hat with a blazer :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: Mrd0ndada on October 11, 2018, 03:08:46 PM
If Bey & Hov can hop on a Migos written record then why can?t uncle Usher young thug it up for 8 tracks?
Because Beyonce SELLS it till you believe it
If anyone else did Apeshit & Formation it would be laughable :dead:
Usher just doesn't have that conviction and aura like she does.
I will agree with you there... but I think his delivery seems solid in these snippets. Hopefully we?ll get visuals
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 11, 2018, 03:11:59 PM
Not fitted hat with a blazer :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
:kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:07:20 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 03:06:17 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:04:39 PM
Like no one ever says oh this sounds like an Usher song! he copied Usher's dancing and style!
He's successful but unremarkable, he doesn't stand out
Ive definitely seen Chris, Justin, Mario, Omarion etc be called for copying Ushers dancing and style
I haven't
They're men, they all dance like the other, there's not a wide list of options for Male R&B singers to dance differently. :dead:
no they dance like Usher, he came before them. and yes there?s other male artists they could look up to like Ginuwine, and Sisqo
But Usher just kinda dominated lolz
:guys:
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 03:14:44 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:07:20 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 03:06:17 PM
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:04:39 PM
Like no one ever says oh this sounds like an Usher song! he copied Usher's dancing and style!
He's successful but unremarkable, he doesn't stand out
Ive definitely seen Chris, Justin, Mario, Omarion etc be called for copying Ushers dancing and style
I haven't
They're men, they all dance like the other, there's not a wide list of options for Male R&B singers to dance differently. :dead:
no they dance like Usher, he came before them. and yes there?s other male artists they could look up to like Ginuwine, and Sisqo
But Usher just kinda dominated lolz
ok ray.
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Let?s just let Chris weigh in:
Breezy is carving an indelible musical mark similar to the ones left by greats like Usher, whose classic nod to Clockwork Orange in ?My Way,? and beanie phase in ?U Remind Me? Brown still cites as inspirations, even as the two have become collaborators (?New Flame?) and friends. Presented with the mind-boggling calculation that he has achieved more Top 75 singles than Usher in half of his career span, Brown shrugs off the numbers and deflects the credit. ?If it wasn?t for Usher, then Chris Brown couldn?t exist,? he maintains. ?When I would look at Usher, I would be like ?F**k, he has it.? The only other guy that I looked at like that was Michael Jackson.?
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 11, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
Usher is more signature visually with his dancing, and looks
He is? :uhh:
!!!!!!!!!
Usher doesnt have a signature anything :dead:
Quote from: Guilty on October 11, 2018, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: Mrd0ndada on October 11, 2018, 03:08:46 PM
If Bey & Hov can hop on a Migos written record then why can?t uncle Usher young thug it up for 8 tracks?
Because Beyonce SELLS it till you believe it
If anyone else did Apeshit & Formation it would be laughable :dead:
Usher just doesn't have that conviction and aura like she does.
That's what i said. Beyonce has definitely hopped on a trend or two but she just ELEVATES it someway or somehow. Usher is nothing like beyonce
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 11, 2018, 03:11:59 PM
Not fitted hat with a blazer :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Im SCREAMING
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2018, 03:22:59 PM
Let?s just let Chris weigh in:
Breezy is carving an indelible musical mark similar to the ones left by greats like Usher, whose classic nod to Clockwork Orange in ?My Way,? and beanie phase in ?U Remind Me? Brown still cites as inspirations, even as the two have become collaborators (?New Flame?) and friends. Presented with the mind-boggling calculation that he has achieved more Top 75 singles than Usher in half of his career span, Brown shrugs off the numbers and deflects the credit. ?If it wasn?t for Usher, then Chris Brown couldn?t exist,? he maintains. ?When I would look at Usher, I would be like ?F**k, he has it.? The only other guy that I looked at like that was Michael Jackson.?
Damn Chris the actual artist disagrees lolz
WOW Miguel is kinda PREACHING here:
QuoteUsher is a friend. Vocally there?s no one fucking with Usher right now in mainstream R&B. I?m always paying attention to his riffs, ?cause he?s always pushing himself. I?ve never heard Usher do one take of vocals the same. He?s insane
Damns NE-YO kinda said what he said here:
I feel that without Usher, there would be no me, there would be no Chris Brown, there would be no Trey Songz. He paved the way for us, so for him to get that honour was kind of special for me. I feel that he actually deserved it.?
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Whitney gorl
Quote from: Cade on October 11, 2018, 12:58:49 PM
Usher is my fave
But I'm scared to listen to this and getting another uninspired, trying to keep up with whats hot project
I'm listening now..
ATA & Peace Sign are a whole vibe. I probably won't listen to the rest again.
ACKKK
Listening now
Stay At Home is a LEAN owt
Oh Yes ATA has me BOPPING
oooooo PEACE SIGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
:gorlonfire:
Say What You Want>>>>
best song on the album
He should push that if he wants ppl to know he?s still R&B
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2018, 08:34:42 AM
Peace Sign>>>>
best song on the album
He should push that if he wants ppl to know he?s still got IT
Vrdgtcrx
Peace Sign is dope too or whatever
ATA :oof:
Zaytoven PRODUCED this album
I love You Decide
the harmonies>>>>
Quote from: BARD? on October 11, 2018, 12:00:34 PM
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Is he serious? He really tries to give a MALE Beyonc? tea.
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art! mystery!
And the songs are blah as hell. Usher hasn't put a good album this decade.
She Ain?t Tell Ya>>>>
I?m swaying
:oof:
This is actually decent...this ain't IT...at all...but it's not what I thought it would be.
king is lit!!! Ughhh i Love it!!! :flamebroiled:
I listened and You Decide and Peace Sign are cute.
The rest varied from meh to disgusting.
Not ppl ignoring the best song Say What GOD Want
this #1 Urban hit waiting to happen
:gorlonfire:
Quote from: Nine on October 12, 2018, 10:52:15 AM
I listened and You Decide and Peace Sign are cute.
The rest varied from meh to disgusting.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
I honestly can't even muster up enough interest to even try to listen