:receipts:
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=awards_by_artist#search_section
Nicki is 2nd only to Lauryn Hill :raycharles2urmess:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGOgSPVBmIE
(https://www.rap-up.com/app/uploads/2018/08/50-cent-nicki-minaj.jpg)
Doubt he?s more certified than Eminem or jigga
Plea
did you miss eminem and drake?
Jjjjj yeah drake too
Highly doubt this cold tea
I just clicked on the link
em' has 45, Jay has 27 and Drake has 16
Eminem holds that title.
and 50 has 11
:udontlookok:
keep editing babe. Not the 3rd either lol
:dead: :dead: :dead:
this faulty tea
I?m crying
Mvvbbhcvbjjjjjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
I?m sure pit bull has more than him
not taking off 50 :plzstop:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:17:02 AM
not taking off 50 :plzstop:
SDSSDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
ADA
A
DA
SD
AS
DA
D
Will Smith has more than him also btw!
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:18:00 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:17:02 AM
not taking off 50 :plzstop:
SDSSDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
ADA
A
DA
SD
AS
DA
D
Will Smith has more than him also btw!
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Hot off the press!
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:16:29 AM
keep editing babe. Not the 3rd either lol
Im SCREAMING
why is his pic still there hun
you forgot to edit that
We luv a perpetually WRONG girl :scrumptious:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
Are u really this dumb :kii:
whew this was fun!
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:16:29 AM
keep editing babe. Not the 3rd either lol
chhfhhcxvgfdfvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
Plaques doesn't equal sales either
You can sell 8 million albums and get a diamond plaque like Mariah
the confidence
:dead:
who bookin'! I told ya!
sure sis
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:22:49 AM
Plaques equal sales either
You can sell 8 million albums and get a diamond plaque like Mariah
He literally NEVER knows wtf he's talking about :dead:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
she did :wub:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:23:36 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
But Missy sold more, wasn't that the point of your thread? :plzstop:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:24:21 AM
I remember those threads where the gorls were tryna TALLY things up a bit
And arguing for pages and pages about her certs.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
No they were arguing sales :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
This thread is LOUD and WRONG
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:24:51 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:24:15 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:23:36 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
But Missy sold more, wasn't that the point of your thread? :plzstop:
She's bested only by Lauryn, luv.
Ok so Missy sold more, but Nicki has more plaques?
Got it.
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
she did :wub:
And we didn't say it
They did LOLZ
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6770280/ask-billboard-missy-elliotts-career-album-sales
QuoteThe best-selling female rap artist Missy Elliott, whose highest spot on the Hot 100 was No. 3
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/cardi-b-the-female-rapper-who-ousted-taylor-swift-from-the-top-of-the-charts-bodak-yellow
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 24, 2018, 09:25:40 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
she did :wub:
And we didn't say it
They did LOLZ
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6770280/ask-billboard-missy-elliotts-career-album-sales
kii!
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Post real receipts then guys :plzstop:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:24:45 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:24:21 AM
I remember those threads where the gorls were tryna TALLY things up a bit
And arguing for pages and pages about her certs.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
No they were arguing sales :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
!!
for example, Mon's Miss Than and TBIM albums are 3x plat but neither have SOLD that much lolz
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 24, 2018, 09:26:34 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:24:45 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:24:21 AM
I remember those threads where the gorls were tryna TALLY things up a bit
And arguing for pages and pages about her certs.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
No they were arguing sales :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
:dead:
I'm the chick with the hot ish, manolo blahnik
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPCV2fH9/43778824-344449222789029-4649901896402390265-n.jpg)
she is the SECOND most certifed female rapper in the US though.
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
!!
for example, Mon's Miss Than and TBIM albums are 3x plat but neither have SOLD that much lolz
Zzzzzzzszzzsssbszbzbzbzbxbzb
Yea inflated mess
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:30:58 AM
And RIAA certifications would fall under the category of "sales".
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
:melmel:
damn 'fro was annihilated in here
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:31:40 AM
And there was a few lengthy threads about RIAA certs.
This being one of them:
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=52698.60
not a list complied by Zabi being a source :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:30:58 AM
And RIAA certifications would fall under the category of "sales".
Would they not? :omf:
No they're two separate entities. That's why we have Nielsen soundscan to track the sales.
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:30:58 AM
And RIAA certifications would fall under the category of "sales".
Would they not? :omf:
No they're two separate entities. That's why we have Nielsen soundscan to track the sales.
:plzstop:
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:30:58 AM
And RIAA certifications would fall under the category of "sales".
Would they not? :omf:
No they're two separate entities. That's why we have Nielsen soundscan to track the sales.
damn.
this machine gun of eggs
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:34:08 AM
this machine gun of eggs
I really just howled at the thought! Lemme reload a bit!
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:34:21 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:31:40 AM
And there was a few lengthy threads about RIAA certs.
This being one of them:
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=52698.60
not a list complied by Zabi being a source :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
I referenced the discussion of the RIAA certs in here
I did not move to defend his accuracy this morn.
I provided receipts for the RIAA chat. You guys seem to have forgotten these conversations exist on here. Anything else I can help with ? :ATLcameo:
Ok so what's your point?
Nicki sold more than Lil Kim & Missy? Or she has more certs?
Because only one of those questions are true and it still doesn't prove she sold more.
Laz' already said RIAA and Soundscan are two different things, the later being more accurate for sales.
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:33:16 AM
damn 'fro was annihilated in here
DISMEMBERED :kii:
Quote50 Cent most certified male rapper/Nicki 2nd most certified female rapper
down to
QuoteRIAA: 50 is 3rd most cert'd male rapper/Nicki 2nd most certified female rapper
to
QuoteRIAA: Nicki 2nd most certified female rapper in history. PERIOD.
and still being WRONG has me doing the laffy taffy
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
she did :wub:
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:30:58 AM
And RIAA certifications would fall under the category of "sales".
Would they not? :omf:
No they're two separate entities.
Sales contribute to RIAA certifications
You're wrong. I get it though. Mya hasn't had a cert since Disney Channel was called zoog disney, so you might be a little unawares
Zzzzzxxxccxzzzzxxx
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
she did :wub:
of what?
QuoteWith five platinum albums (including 2002?s double platinum Under Construction) and one gold under her belt,
The best-selling female rapper in Nielsen history (more than 30 million records in the United States alone
Elliott has won four Grammys, 15 MTV Video Music Awards and countless BET Awards, including five for best female hip-hop artist. In 2015 she was Billboard Women in Music?s inaugural Innovator of the Year honoree.
:oof:
https://www.
billboard.com/articles/business/7896960/missy-elliott-signs-with-wme-exclusive
These legendary STATS or a real Queen
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 24, 2018, 09:43:44 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
she did :wub:
of what?
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6770280/ask-billboard-missy-elliotts-career-album-sales
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
She did tho
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:43:56 AM
Nothing to do with sales!
I'm crying
you def are
these eggs have you pissed
Let's all take a gander at this here I Bet platinum plaque
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
What's that say?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
platinum SALES. To say RIAA isn't based on sales at all is a lie. No lying today, faggs
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108288/IUIxaON.jpg)
So the bottom line and synopsis of this thread Nicki is the SECOND most certified (which is not exact and certs can be brought after certain thresholds and other criteria) female rapper in the us.
Missy is the BEST selling female rapper in the US flat out with no stipulations or other criteria.
:butwait!:
Y'all, these sources are from YEARS back
Nicki has sold millions of copies of singles and albums in this year alone :dead: missy!
That dyke hasn't mattered since 2005, thanks to Ci and the power of Lose Control. She couldn't bring female rap out of the mud. Nicki did :feelinmyself:
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:55:48 AM
So the bottom line and synopsis of this thread Nicki is the SECOND most certified (which is not exact and certs can be brought after certain thresholds and other criteria) female rapper in the us.
Missy is the BEST selling female rapper in the US flat out with no stipulations or other criteria.
:butwait!:
basically lmao
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 10:05:20 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:55:48 AM
So the bottom line and synopsis of this thread Nicki is the SECOND most certified (which is not exact and certs can be brought after certain thresholds and other criteria) female rapper in the us.
Missy is the BEST selling female rapper in the US flat out with no stipulations or other criteria.
:butwait!:
basically lmao
Glad we cleared this up pal lolz
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:58:02 AM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 24, 2018, 09:55:24 AM
Let's all take a gander at this here I Bet platinum plaque
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
What's that say?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
platinum SALES. To say RIAA isn't based on sales at all is a lie. No lying today, faggs
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108288/IUIxaON.jpg)
,lmoni
I can't believe they tried to pull the "nothing to do with sales! This means NOTHING!" card. Awww.
Wonder if they'll go into that Cardi mega-thread with that same energy :omf:
when you have to fib and storytell to make a point :dead: Nicki just went platinum again
If it has nothing to do with sales and something to scoff at, why hasn't Janet done it in 200 years? I mean SHIT
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 10:07:12 AM
Missy is the BEST selling female rapper in the US
Even this is unsubstantiated
Until you can calculate how much US sales came out of the dozens of hit records Nicki has released in the last 3 years, this is also a lie :plzstop:
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 10:05:20 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:55:48 AM
So the bottom line and synopsis of this thread Nicki is the SECOND most certified (which is not exact and certs can be brought after certain thresholds and other criteria) female rapper in the us.
Missy is the BEST selling female rapper in the US flat out with no stipulations or other criteria.
:butwait!:
basically lmao
Glad we cleared this up pal lolz
!!
We should do this again sometime
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 10:12:23 AM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 24, 2018, 10:11:12 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 10:07:12 AM
Missy is the BEST selling female rapper in the US
Even this is unsubstantiated
Until you can calculate how much US sales came out of the dozens of hit records Nicki has released in the last 3 years, this is also a lie :plzstop:
RIAA updates their database on a regular basis.
Third party websites and articles just won't do in this argument. :ATLcameo:
RIAA is all we have to go by.
Not some random op-ed from Billboard released almost half a decade ago :kii:
Plaques and certs are our indication of what the SALES look like. We know they've crossed a certain threshold. We also know Nicki has an assload more of those plaques and certs than Missy. No more playin dumb, bbys :flamebroiled: catch this L
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:33:48 AM
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:30:58 AM
And RIAA certifications would fall under the category of "sales".
Would they not? :omf:
No they're two separate entities. That's why we have Nielsen soundscan to track the sales.
damn.
Ur a fckn BITCH :kii:
My' always comes thru with the FAX huh
Vonc if you gon go back and quote the lies, me and af can go back and quote the truth easy
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 24, 2018, 10:01:42 AM
Y'all, these sources are from YEARS back
Billboard doesn't hesitate to update a stat when one is bested. Just post the Nicki link :dead:
sdddddddddddddddd
the way this title kept changing on the first page alone
lemme see whats going on
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2rhphqr.jpg)
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
!!
for example, Mon's Miss Than and TBIM albums are 3x plat but neither have SOLD that much lolz
they have lolz
Mons tea aint been updated in YEARS
And shes UNDERcertified w/ other albums
ATS sold over a million
TMOM should be Gold
SS Platinum
ETC
Vfccvvffffvgvvvcccccc
Drag him young
Quote from: Young on October 24, 2018, 11:00:51 AM
sdddddddddddddddd
the way this title kept changing on the first page alone
lemme see whats going on
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2rhphqr.jpg)
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Young on October 24, 2018, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
!!
for example, Mon's Miss Than and TBIM albums are 3x plat but neither have SOLD that much lolz
they have lolz
Mons tea aint been updated in YEARS
And shes UNDERcertified w/ other albums
ATS sold over a million
TMOM should be Gold
SS Platinum
ETC
any proof?
If we look at songs Missy has either produced, written or been featured on as well, she is truly in a league of her own.
Nicki is plaqued tf OWT though, cant take that from her! She's been featured 342534653565 different times throughout the years. Makes sense.
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: Young on October 24, 2018, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
!!
for example, Mon's Miss Than and TBIM albums are 3x plat but neither have SOLD that much lolz
they have lolz
Mons tea aint been updated in YEARS
And shes UNDERcertified w/ other albums
ATS sold over a million
TMOM should be Gold
SS Platinum
ETC
any proof?
Me saying wtf I said is the proof hun
Wow
Young heel-toed on zank's neck in here
Quote from: Young on October 24, 2018, 11:09:02 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: Young on October 24, 2018, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
!!
for example, Mon's Miss Than and TBIM albums are 3x plat but neither have SOLD that much lolz
they have lolz
Mons tea aint been updated in YEARS
And shes UNDERcertified w/ other albums
ATS sold over a million
TMOM should be Gold
SS Platinum
ETC
any proof?
Me saying wtf I said is the proof hun
And what you said was some fuckery.
Quote from: Young on October 24, 2018, 11:09:02 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: Young on October 24, 2018, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
!!
for example, Mon's Miss Than and TBIM albums are 3x plat but neither have SOLD that much lolz
they have lolz
Mons tea aint been updated in YEARS
And shes UNDERcertified w/ other albums
ATS sold over a million
TMOM should be Gold
SS Platinum
ETC
any proof?
Me saying wtf I said is the proof hun
you're not reliable hun, fake news. A trump tea if you will
"Still Standing" platinum?????
good damn bye :kii:
Quote from: Young on October 24, 2018, 11:08:29 AM
Nicki is plaqued tf OWT though, cant take that from her! She's been featured 342534653565 different times throughout the years. Makes sense.
the frequency of tge features only show how in demand she is. Those plaques weren't guaranteed
It's like Tinashe releasing several singles for years and still not charting. It's not guaranteed so this attempt to minimize her accomplishments is silly
Okay imma leave this here a lil BSource crash course on sales vs. certs
US sales (project SPS): @NICKIMINAJ, Queen 729,000 (est. total).
Platinum certification threshold 1,000,000 units.
Unbiased
Boyz II Men "II"
Sales 9,890,000
Certified 12,000,000
Certs and sales aren't exactly the same and most of our favorite artist have at least one or albums thsts over certified by Riaa.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 24, 2018, 11:11:41 AM
"Still Standing" platinum?????
good damn bye :kii:
BOY! around 2011 it was at 800k
it was Gold within a MONTH
r u okay?
With streams and things it should DEFINITELY have a Platinum Cert.
FLAT OWT
hey young. Can you post a link of it being at 800k please?
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 24, 2018, 11:11:41 AM
"Still Standing" platinum?????
good damn bye :kii:
and let's not kii too hard coz fanny only has one plat' mess lolz
I'm still platinum!
Platinum!
I'm still platinum!
Sing!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1055100606489284609/n7W_-myx?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:38:59 AM
Quote50 Cent most certified male rapper/Nicki 2nd most certified female rapper
down to
QuoteRIAA: 50 is 3rd most cert'd male rapper/Nicki 2nd most certified female rapper
to
QuoteRIAA: Nicki 2nd most certified female rapper in history. PERIOD.
and still being WRONG has me doing the laffy taffy
(https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/giphy.gif)
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 24, 2018, 11:13:07 AM
Quote from: Young on October 24, 2018, 11:08:29 AM
Nicki is plaqued tf OWT though, cant take that from her! She's been featured 342534653565 different times throughout the years. Makes sense.
the frequency of tge features only show how in demand she is.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/giphy.gif)
Mya and the ppl that quoted sis were so sure :kii:
Put your fut downe a bit
:dead:
the irony
RIAA is based on shipments. The industry been using Nielsen soundscan to track sales since 1991 where it pertains to Nicki. Two separate entities.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 01:50:59 PM
I said RIAA certifications fall under the category of "sales".
I was very clear with that statement.
You said "No."
RIAA says yes.
Nice try, though.
:dead:
RIAA! Shipments!
I just posted a whole picture of a plaque that shows it was gained based off digital downloads. This ain't 1999, shipments ain't takin precedence these days
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 01:48:59 PM
RIAA is based on shipments. The industry been using Nielsen soundscan to track sales since 1991 where it pertains to Nicki. Two separate entities.
Dont bother. This fag refuses to admit being wrong regardless of how dumb he looks. No one with sense is arguing this, hence Talisa being his only cosign and advocate :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 24, 2018, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 01:48:59 PM
RIAA is based on shipments. The industry been using Nielsen soundscan to track sales since 1991 where it pertains to Nicki. Two separate entities.
Dont bother. This fag refuses to admit being wrong regardless of how dumb he looks. No one with sense is arguing this, hence Talisa being his only cosign and advocate :dead:
asssssssssssseed
Im screaming at source!
Third party
1:it's BILLBOARD, not AOL news, they ARE the main music publication
2: Billboard uses Soundscan and RIAA as it's sources
It's always embarrassing to see people grasp at straws when they're clearly wrong
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 02:09:23 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 24, 2018, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 01:48:59 PM
RIAA is based on shipments. The industry been using Nielsen soundscan to track sales since 1991 where it pertains to Nicki. Two separate entities.
Dont bother. This fag refuses to admit being wrong regardless of how dumb he looks. No one with sense is arguing this, hence Talisa being his only cosign and advocate :dead:
asssssssssssseed
Im screaming at source!
Third party
1:it's BILLBOARD, not AOL news, they ARE the main music publication
2: Billboard uses Soundscan and RIAA as it's sources
It's always embarrassing to see people grasp at straws when they're clearly wrong
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Like it's MTO or sumn smh
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 02:09:23 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 24, 2018, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 01:48:59 PM
RIAA is based on shipments. The industry been using Nielsen soundscan to track sales since 1991 where it pertains to Nicki. Two separate entities.
Dont bother. This fag refuses to admit being wrong regardless of how dumb he looks. No one with sense is arguing this, hence Talisa being his only cosign and advocate :dead:
asssssssssssseed
Im screaming at source!
Third party
1:it's BILLBOARD, not AOL news, they ARE the main music publication
2: Billboard uses Soundscan and RIAA as it's sources
It's always embarrassing to see people grasp at straws when they're clearly wrong
/
The bottom line: RIAA does more than record the number of shipments
How many more receipts do we need to post? :kii:
they not gon post until Mya come in here and lie again :kii:
Quote
By contrast, the R.I.A.A. platinum awards are based not on hard sales but on mere shipments meaning a company can make an album "go platinum" simply by shoving the required number of copies into stores. The only requirement is that the companies wait 60 days after the initial shipping, to subtract any unsold copies the stores send back.
Quote
Such discrepencies put Billboard in an odd position. As a trade publication, the magazine is obliged to print its R.I.A.A. certifications, which often clashes with the far more accurate SoundScan data. As a result Ellis says, "it's time for the industry to think about the value of those [R.I.A.A.] shipment figures.
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/nydn-features/don-buy-jax-pyramid-scheme-platinum-status-symbol-history-marking-5-million-albums-sold-proves-worthless-fool-gold-article-1.704078
:kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 02:42:03 PM
Quote
By contrast, the R.I.A.A. platinum awards are based not on hard sales but on mere shipments meaning a company can make an album "go platinum" simply by shoving the required number of copies into stores. The only requirement is that the companies wait 60 days after the initial shipping, to subtract any unsold copies the stores send back.
Quote
Such discrepencies put Billboard in an odd position. As a trade publication, the magazine is obliged to print its R.I.A.A. certifications, which often clashes with the far more accurate SoundScan data. As a result Ellis says, "it's time for the industry to think about the value of those [R.I.A.A.] shipment figures.
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/nydn-features/don-buy-jax-pyramid-scheme-platinum-status-symbol-history-marking-5-million-albums-sold-proves-worthless-fool-gold-article-1.704078
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I just.....
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 02:42:03 PM
Quote
By contrast, the R.I.A.A. platinum awards are based not on hard sales but on mere shipments meaning a company can make an album "go platinum" simply by shoving the required number of copies into stores. The only requirement is that the companies wait 60 days after the initial shipping, to subtract any unsold copies the stores send back.
Quote
Such discrepencies put Billboard in an odd position. As a trade publication, the magazine is obliged to print its R.I.A.A. certifications, which often clashes with the far more accurate SoundScan data. As a result Ellis says, "it's time for the industry to think about the value of those [R.I.A.A.] shipment figures.
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/nydn-features/don-buy-jax-pyramid-scheme-platinum-status-symbol-history-marking-5-million-albums-sold-proves-worthless-fool-gold-article-1.704078
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Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 02:42:03 PM
Quote
By contrast, the R.I.A.A. platinum awards are based not on hard sales but on mere shipments meaning a company can make an album "go platinum" simply by shoving the required number of copies into stores. The only requirement is that the companies wait 60 days after the initial shipping, to subtract any unsold copies the stores send back.
Quote
Such discrepencies put Billboard in an odd position. As a trade publication, the magazine is obliged to print its R.I.A.A. certifications, which often clashes with the far more accurate SoundScan data. As a result Ellis says, "it's time for the industry to think about the value of those [R.I.A.A.] shipment figures.
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/nydn-features/don-buy-jax-pyramid-scheme-platinum-status-symbol-history-marking-5-million-albums-sold-proves-worthless-fool-gold-article-1.704078
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, September 11, 1995, 12:00 AMMya cmon :plzstop:
im screaming
you were wrong toots
An article from 1995 detailing RIAA OLD practices just won't do
Shipments!
Cardi's album hasn't even been released in physical form, so what accuracy does the information in that article actually have on this day? :dead:
I'm just mad at the fact that Mya up here quoting shit that came out before even AOL dial-up did, actin' like those rules and regulations haven't changed along with the largely dynamic industry in which they were created. :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
sis really is a THROWBACK
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 03:00:18 PM
It's not even about practices or the in's and out's of procedure.
Laz is wrong at the most BASIC level.
What I said was very simple - RIAA certifications are under the "sales" category.
They are sales oriented. Period.
That's what Laz challenged. But now he's introducing these things about previous practices, procedures, etc.
It's deflection. You were wrong at the most BASIC level. Before we even get into the other stuff.
Yeah, he's wrong there too :dead: :plzstop: just all types of wrong
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Damn
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 24, 2018, 02:58:21 PM
An article from 1995 detailing RIAA OLD practices just won't do
Shipments!
QuoteClub sales and club free goods may be included towards certification. Product shipped to retail,
mail order, record clubs, TV marketing and other ancillary markets are combined toward certified
sales. All shipments to these accounts must be verified by the label.
http://www.riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ALBUM-AWARD-RIAA-AND-GRF-CERTIFICATION-AUDIT-REQUIREMENTS.pdf
Quote from: november on October 24, 2018, 02:56:58 PM
im screaming
you were wrong toots
I just......
:plzstop:
?Ron in here slicing and dicing :stressed:
Whats happening
[youtube autoplay=1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2kZ5XXTV_c[/youtube]
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:45:53 AM
Any Soundscan links?
RIAA?
These third party sources well .. just won't do in this conversation.
Horse's mouth ONLY.
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QuoteBillboard publishes a host of charts that are individually or collectively based on key fan interactions with music, including album sales and downloads, track downloads, radio airplay and touring as well as streaming and social interactions on Facebook, Twitter, Vevo, Youtube, Spotify and other popular online destinations for music. These measurements are tracked year-round by Billboard and its data partners, including Nielsen BDS, Nielsen SoundScan and Next Big Sound.
https://www.billboard.com/p/faq
QuoteThe Nielsen SoundScan is the sales source for the Billboard music charts, making it the largest source of sales records in the music industry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_SoundScan
:diddraispoot:
Everything Billboard posts IS a soundscan link. That's the point.
QuoteNielsen?s data serves as a major source for the Billboard charts
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/solutions/measurement/music-sales-measurement.html
QuoteThis highly anticipated report provides comprehensive coverage of the year in music from the coveted Nielsen Music Year-End charts, presented by Billboard
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/press-room/2017/nielsen-releases-2016-us-year-end-music-report.html
:kii:
Didn't you use a Twitter chart guru (Chart Data) to say Queen was platinum? Now you need Soundscan and RIAA to verify things? Doesn't RIAA still show Queen is gold? "but according to Chart Data", um huh?
Af you have no idea what you're talking about. You obviously don't understand anything about charts. RIAA doesn't even include Nielsen in their calculations. QuoteThe Recording Industry Association of America also tracks sales (or more specifically, shipments minus potential returns) on a long-term basis through the RIAA certification system; It has never used either Nielsen SoundScan or the store-calling method.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_SoundScan
IDK why you insist on being loud and wrong for 13+ pages.
Request!
You've been wrong throughout the entire thread from Nicki being the most certified to Billboard being a third party source.
And RIAA doesn't even use Soundscan as a source for their "sales" fgffggg
Hey guys
Quote from: Lazarus on October 24, 2018, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:30:58 AM
And RIAA certifications would fall under the category of "sales".
Would they not? :omf:
No they're two separate entities. That's why we have Nielsen soundscan to track the sales.
!!!!!
Like...fhhfff QuoteNielsen SoundScan figures are not used in RIAA certification; the RIAA system predates Nielsen SoundScan and includes sales outlets Nielsen misses.[citation needed] Prior to Nielsen SoundScan, RIAA certification was the only audited and verifiable system for tracking music sales in the U.S.; it is still the only system capable of tracking 100% of sales (albeit as shipments less returns, not actual sales like Nielsen SoundScan)
:kii:
Did you find a Soundscan or RIAA link for Queen being Platinum? Cause last time I checked Quote from: Two Spirit on October 14, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
UPDATE:She confirms:
Quotenickiminaj#Queen becomes my 4th Platinum album in the US this week. Thank you guys for your love & support. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this project in any way. To God be the glory.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo9zkuDha0b/?hl=en&taken-by=nickiminaj
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/f24bb657cdafe9c4b9fca271ce27e5ad/tumblr_pglhvb6H4Z1qfrpiko1_1280.jpg)
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Nicki and Chart Data have what and what to do with those websites? It's weird how you pick and choose what websites are accurate or credible when it benefits your argument.
Either way you're still wrong gggg
Explain why you're using Chart Data as a receipt but not Soundscan.
This number 2 ass girl
Guys
I?m defrosting some vegan tofu
Quote from: LOONA. on October 24, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Everything Billboard posts IS a soundscan link. That's the point.
Dumb af :kii: :plzstop:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 24, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
Af you have no idea what you're talking about. You obviously don't understand anything about charts. RIAA doesn't even include Nielsen in their calculations.
Bingo! :dead: :dead: :dead:
:melmel:
Let me open this crown I mean wine.........
Quote from: LOONA. on October 24, 2018, 11:15:03 PM
Did you find a Soundscan or RIAA link for Queen being Platinum? Cause last time I checked
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 14, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
UPDATE:She confirms:
Quotenickiminaj#Queen becomes my 4th Platinum album in the US this week. Thank you guys for your love & support. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this project in any way. To God be the glory.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo9zkuDha0b/?hl=en&taken-by=nickiminaj
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/f24bb657cdafe9c4b9fca271ce27e5ad/tumblr_pglhvb6H4Z1qfrpiko1_1280.jpg)
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Nicki and Chart Data have what and what to do with those websites? It's weird how you pick and choose what websites are accurate or credible when it benefits your argument.
Either way you're still wrong gggg
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Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 11:13:48 AM
Okay imma leave this here a lil BSource crash course on sales vs. certs
US sales (project SPS): @NICKIMINAJ, Queen 729,000 (est. total).
Platinum certification threshold 1,000,000 units.
Hmm, let's see
RIAA shows this (http://i65.tinypic.com/2vb55wo.jpg)
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/about-awards/
So you're correct there.
Also, Queen is certified Gold as RIAA shows here (http://i64.tinypic.com/8xlyli.jpg)
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&se=nicki+minaj#search_section
You're also correct there
And since Af loves to post Chart Data to verify Nicki's sales (http://i67.tinypic.com/5wcw36.jpg)
https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1053936428185337856
So everything you stated was factual. Not sure why Af is so confused but he's wrong. :diddraispoot:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 24, 2018, 11:43:39 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 24, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
Af you have no idea what you're talking about. You obviously don't understand anything about charts. RIAA doesn't even include Nielsen in their calculations.
Bingo!
:dead: :dead: :dead:
The fact that he goes around plugging Pink Friday's first week sales into every convo not knowing that's a Billboard stat. I don't wanna see it typed no more since it isn't RIAA or Soundscan. :kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:18:06 PM
Help me out if it isn't - I'm open to an explanation of how Billboard would be a primary source for RIAA or Soundscan data.
Did they merge?
QuoteMusic Sales Measurement
Nielsen?s data serves as a major source for the Billboard charts
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/solutions/measurement/music-sales-measurement.html
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Yh I did post links which is why you should actually read instead of deflecting.
I've been posting links and screenshots directly from RIAA & Soundscan showing you that you're wrong and have no idea what you're talking about.
Ology said Queen is gold and not platinum. RIAA says the exact same thing.
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&se=nicki+minaj#search_section
Until you show me an RIAA link that specifically states "Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper" you will be wrong.
Just like you were wrong about Queen being platinum
Trying to figure out how to be on the opposing side to piss Drais off.....
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 12:31:38 AM
Yes, you posted a lot of links in here, but none of them have really addressed that specific request.
Oop
:guys:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 12:18:06 AM
Yh I did post links which is why you should actually read instead of deflecting.
I've been posting links and screenshots directly from RIAA & Soundscan showing you that you're wrong and have no idea what you're talking about.
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Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 12:28:56 AM
Until you show me an RIAA link that specifically states "Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper" you will be wrong.
Just like you were wrong about Queen being platinum
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Loona in here gutting and cutting
Someone call an ambulance to come pick up herb. :rthosehotwings:
Can somebody explain why he wants SALES info from riaa when they do CERTIFICATIONS only?
And can somebody also explain that Soundscan only reports their numbers to companies that have subscriptions with them....like Billboard. Why do you think you've never seen someone post a receipt directly from Nielsen's website when discussing sales? Billboard figures come directly from Soundscan, so if someone were to post an article from Billboard about Missy Elliot being the best selling rapper with a sales figure included then um....
HELLO
The sales figure is coming from Soundscan through a company subscribed to them. Jayden & Ology answered your request with a Billboard article. This is literally why I said this earlier Quote from: LOONA. on October 24, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Everything Billboard posts IS a soundscan link. That's the point.
And this is also why I said you have no idea what you're talking about. :omf:
Like literally NEVER knows what he's talking alot about :dead:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:59:24 AM
Can somebody explain why he wants SALES info from riaa when they do CERTIFICATIONS only?
And can somebody also explain that Soundscan only reports their numbers to companies that have subscriptions with them....like Billboard. Why do you think you've never seen someone post a receipt directly from Nielsen's website when discussing sales? Billboard figures come directly from Soundscan, so if someone were to post an article from Billboard about Missy Elliot being the best selling rapper with a sales figure included then um....
HELLO
The sales figure is coming from Soundscan through a company subscribed to them. Jayden & Ology answered your request with a Billboard article. This is literally why I said this earlier
Quote from: LOONA. on October 24, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Everything Billboard posts IS a soundscan link. That's the point.
And this is also why I said you have no idea what you're talking about.
:omf:
jdjdjdjdsueueueueuue
How can anyone not understand what you've...we've been typing for 3 pages straight is beyond me.
He's trolling at this point because everything said in here makes perfect sense and has links to back them up
requested this!No Hun
Point is RIAA doesn't equal sales
Nicki hasn't sold a million copies of Queen
Billboard is reputable and it's not a 3rd party as it gets it numbers directly from Soundscan
Soundscan and RIAA are not the same
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 12:31:38 AM
Yes, you posted a lot of links in here, but none of them have really addressed that specific request.
gurl put on your big girl panties
this is pathetic :dead:
Like how about you do proper research and figure out the correct thread title first before bombarding anybody with requests. You can't even get your own receipts straight.
Literally everybody in this thread posted receipts but you
Talmbout "I request", boy sit down.
:kii:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 02:10:35 AM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:59:24 AM
Can somebody explain why he wants SALES info from riaa when they do CERTIFICATIONS only?
And can somebody also explain that Soundscan only reports their numbers to companies that have subscriptions with them....like Billboard. Why do you think you've never seen someone post a receipt directly from Nielsen's website when discussing sales? Billboard figures come directly from Soundscan, so if someone were to post an article from Billboard about Missy Elliot being the best selling rapper with a sales figure included then um....
HELLO
The sales figure is coming from Soundscan through a company subscribed to them. Jayden & Ology answered your request with a Billboard article. This is literally why I said this earlier
Quote from: LOONA. on October 24, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Everything Billboard posts IS a soundscan link. That's the point.
And this is also why I said you have no idea what you're talking about.
:omf:
jdjdjdjdsueueueueuue
How can anyone not understand what you've...we've been typing for 3 pages straight is beyond me.
He's trolling at this point because everything said in here makes perfect sense and has links to back them up
requested this!
No Hun
Point is RIAA doesn't equal sales
Nicki hasn't sold a million copies of Queen
Billboard is reputable and it's not a 3rd party as it gets it numbers directly from Soundscan
Soundscan and RIAA are not the same
He just wants to debate and keep this thread going. Like the entire thread told him he's wrong and he's still trying to convince people otherwise. I'm still screaming at y'all automatically clocking the inaccuracies on page one.
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 24, 2018, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 10:12:23 AM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 24, 2018, 10:11:12 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 10:07:12 AM
Missy is the BEST selling female rapper in the US
Even this is unsubstantiated
Until you can calculate how much US sales came out of the dozens of hit records Nicki has released in the last 3 years, this is also a lie :plzstop:
RIAA updates their database on a regular basis.
Third party websites and articles just won't do in this argument. :ATLcameo:
RIAA is all we have to go by.
Not some random op-ed from Billboard released almost half a decade ago :kii:
Plaques and certs are our indication of what the SALES look like. We know they've crossed a certain threshold. We also know Nicki has an assload more of those plaques and certs than Missy. No more playin dumb, bbys :flamebroiled: catch this L
Um Billboard gets their tea directly from Soundscan
:usuresis:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:16:54 PM
Billboard would be the primary source for Billboard charts.
RIAA for RIAA certifications/sales
Soundscan for Soundscan sales.
Is that not right or something?
Billboard is also the source for sales, as their charts are determined by sales.
Quote from: Poseidon on October 25, 2018, 02:46:53 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:16:54 PM
Billboard would be the primary source for Billboard charts.
RIAA for RIAA certifications/sales
Soundscan for Soundscan sales.
Is that not right or something?
Billboard is also the source for sales, as their charts are determined by sales.
hehshshshshhsshhshhahhhahsh
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:55:23 PM
He posted an article from a newspaper.
I posted information from RIAA's website confirming they are "sales" oriented.
But, oop away with these "other" sources.
That is not a good research technique. You need credible check and balance of other publications verifiying what the original source claims.
I'm screaming
:kii:
HSHshsbbs imagine being told WRONG for 12 pages
Some people really just need to sit down and listen
You can't be the master of knowledge for everything
d
Can you even provide what your asking for?
No one is about to subscribe to Sound-Scan and pay coin just to prove a point that's been proven for 12 pages for you Afro :kii: :kii:
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
Why don't you register, pay a fee, log in and tell us sis
Your clinging on to RIAA stats, that at best of times aren't accurate with SALE figures, example: QUEEN selling 700 and odd k whilst being platinum, people also posted OTHER examples of plaques not matching up to sales figures, two different things, two different entities, proof was also posted of this :dead:
QuoteNicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
And you wanted proof no?
We posted a Billboard link, Billboard who get their tea DIRECTLY from Soundscan, or is Billboard all of a sudden unreliable in
this debate? (because you'll quote them any other time when it's in support of Nicki)
Or are you still arguing the fact
(which no one disputed) that Nicki is the 2nd female most plaqued rapper?
:damselindistress:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:10:49 AM
I?m waiting on what I requested.
& I gave you the link to fetch what you wanted yourself
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
Be sure to let us know :scrumptious:
it?s pointless. At this point you are asking for a vessel not actual information. The editors at billboard are subscribed to Soundscan and get their information from there, like we all do. It?s impossible to produce a link because they don?t offer public links. So you ate clinging onto something, where you should know it is non-existent. The link you speak of. Not the information however. That is right there. And if you claim billboard is unreliable as far as numbers and tracking the sales, success etc of a song, you should never name any Nicki billboard records. What do u think they are based on, instagram likes?
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No link for u! Sor?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:16:30 AM
I didn?t make the claim in the topic title and tell you guys to fetch the info in my OP.
It?s not my responsibility to prove a claim made by someone else in an attempt to contradict me lol.
We said before that Missy outsold Nicki and backed it up with a Billboard link
You said she didn't and Billboard is irrelevant
Why don't you prove us wrong with a soundscan link
here
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
:justabit:
Quote from: Poseidon on October 25, 2018, 07:17:08 AM
it?s pointless. At this point you are asking for a vessel not actual information. The editors at billboard are subscribed to Soundscan and get their information from there, like we all do. It?s impossible to produce a link because they don?t offer public links. So you ate clinging onto something, where you should know it is non-existent. The link you speak of. Not the information however. That is right there. And if you claim billboard is unreliable as far as numbers and tracking the sales, success etc of a song, you should never name any Nicki billboard records. What do u think they are based on, instagram likes?
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:27:24 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 07:22:58 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:16:30 AM
I didn?t make the claim in the topic title and tell you guys to fetch the info in my OP.
It?s not my responsibility to prove a claim made by someone else in an attempt to contradict me lol.
We said before that Missy outsold Nicki and backed it up with a Billboard link
You said she didn't
Why don't you prove us wrong with a soundscan link
here
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
:justabit:
Bdbdbdbbdbd
Turn the tables! Balls in YOUR court!
Nice try Jayden.
Try what? :diddraispoot:
You don't want to find out?
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
why don't you wanna get it and prove us wrong like I know your itching to do
:cheerup:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:37:52 AM
:diddraispoot:
My intent wasn?t to prove anyone wrong - I asked ology to prove himself RIGHT using two specific sources.
That?s all.
He did, lol with Billboard and RIAA links to disproves yours as well as prove his own
You can't even prove your own claim though
but you could if you...
... https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
:ohwow:
The way this nigga was YANKED in these last few pgs
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Not Malcolm coming in to pummel his mental twin with logic as well
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Quote from: Poseidon on October 25, 2018, 07:17:08 AM
it?s pointless. At this point you are asking for a vessel not actual information. The editors at billboard are subscribed to Soundscan and get their information from there, like we all do. It?s impossible to produce a link because they don?t offer public links. So you ate clinging onto something, where you should know it is non-existent. The link you speak of. Not the information however. That is right there. And if you claim billboard is unreliable as far as numbers and tracking the sales, success etc of a song, you should never name any Nicki billboard records. What do u think they are based on, instagram likes?
Im fckn SHAKING
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:46:48 AM
As far as the claim in the topic title, the RIAA link I provided in the OP is pretty strong supporting evidence directly from RIAA?s website. The artists are listed from most certified to least.
So why has she sold 700k and end up with a platinum plaque.
Basically when it comes to sales
Billboard/SoundScan>>>>RIAA
I mean if you still want to prove that Nicki outsold Missy
be my guest
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:44:44 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 07:40:01 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:37:52 AM
:diddraispoot:
My intent wasn?t to prove anyone wrong - I asked ology to prove himself RIGHT using two specific sources.
That?s all.
He did
He posted a link to RIAA or Soundscan proving that Missy has sold more than any other female rapper?
I missed it ... can you quote it for me? I?ll have to apologize if that?s the case.
You edited out the part of my post which answered this one
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
Im SCREAMING!
log in and tell us af'!
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
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https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html :ohwow: afrooo
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:44:11 PM
More articles?
I went straight to RIAA to confirm that they are definitely "sales" oriented, Laz. You were wrong in saying that they wouldn't fall under a "sales" category.
There's not much more to it.
Technically they're "shipment" oriented though
Wait did this LEAP in pages?
not being told NO for 3 more pages
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:44:11 PM
More articles?
I went straight to RIAA to confirm that they are definitely "sales" oriented, Laz. You were wrong in saying that they wouldn't fall under a "sales" category.
There's not much more to it.
Technically they're "shipment" oriented though
Really? Here's how they describe their mission -
QuoteOriginally conceived to honor artists and track sound recording sales
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/
Yeah sis!
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
U.S. Sales Database - RIAA
https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 08:07:34 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:44:11 PM
More articles?
I went straight to RIAA to confirm that they are definitely "sales" oriented, Laz. You were wrong in saying that they wouldn't fall under a "sales" category.
There's not much more to it.
Technically they're "shipment" oriented though
Really? Here's how they describe their mission -
QuoteOriginally conceived to honor artists and track sound recording sales
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/
Yeah sis!
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
U.S. Sales Database - RIAA
https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database
:plzstop:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:02:11 AM
I'd say a company like UPS or FedEx would be "shipment oriented".
That's their speciality.
They would be the carrier/delivery mess
But what we're talking about is the tallying of the AMOUNT shipments made--and THAT being the determining factor for why RIAA hands out certs.
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 08:09:55 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:02:11 AM
I'd say a company like UPS or FedEx would be "shipment oriented".
That's their speciality.
They would be the carrier/delivery mess
But what we're talking about is the tallying of the AMOUNT shipments made--and THAT being the determining factor for why RIAA hands out certs.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:09:48 AM
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 08:07:34 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:44:11 PM
More articles?
I went straight to RIAA to confirm that they are definitely "sales" oriented, Laz. You were wrong in saying that they wouldn't fall under a "sales" category.
There's not much more to it.
Technically they're "shipment" oriented though
Really? Here's how they describe their mission -
QuoteOriginally conceived to honor artists and track sound recording sales
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/
Yeah sis!
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
U.S. Sales Database - RIAA
https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database
Note the title of the link you gave me.
QuoteU.S. Sales Database - RIAA
Now let's cycle back to what I originally said.
QuoteI went straight to RIAA to confirm that they are definitely "sales" oriented
also what he posted which you conviently edited out
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Not young grabbing a handful of his processed mess as well :plzstop:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:09:48 AM
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 08:07:34 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:44:11 PM
More articles?
I went straight to RIAA to confirm that they are definitely "sales" oriented, Laz. You were wrong in saying that they wouldn't fall under a "sales" category.
There's not much more to it.
Technically they're "shipment" oriented though
Really? Here's how they describe their mission -
QuoteOriginally conceived to honor artists and track sound recording sales
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/
Yeah sis!
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
U.S. Sales Database - RIAA
https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database
Note the title of the link you gave me.
QuoteU.S. Sales Database - RIAA
Now let's cycle back to what I originally said.
QuoteI went straight to RIAA to confirm that they are definitely "sales" oriented
Are trying to debate terminology tho? dddd coz I mean
they can scream "sales!" all day long
but if they are literally saying (within the link I might add)
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
Then we can conclude that they determine "sales" based off shipments.
Nicki shipped 1 million albums but only sold 700k copies.
Let's use common sense :plzstop:
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 08:12:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:09:48 AM
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 08:07:34 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:44:11 PM
More articles?
I went straight to RIAA to confirm that they are definitely "sales" oriented, Laz. You were wrong in saying that they wouldn't fall under a "sales" category.
There's not much more to it.
Technically they're "shipment" oriented though
Really? Here's how they describe their mission -
QuoteOriginally conceived to honor artists and track sound recording sales
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/
Yeah sis!
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
U.S. Sales Database - RIAA
https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database
Note the title of the link you gave me.
QuoteU.S. Sales Database - RIAA
Now let's cycle back to what I originally said.
QuoteI went straight to RIAA to confirm that they are definitely "sales" oriented
Are trying to debate terminology tho? dddd coz I mean
they can scream "sales!" all day long
but if they are literally saying (within the link I might add)
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
Then we can conclude that they determine "sales" based off shipments.
YOUNG!!!!!! :plzstop:
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
We know they track shipments.
Exactly, doesn't mean the artist SOLD what they shipped, just means they SHIPPED that amount.
Billboard/SoundScan records how much they've SOLD, RIAA records have much they've shipped.
Usher back in 2012 finally SOLD 10 million copies of Confessions, but he got a diamond plaque for it years prior.
and look what they used as it's source?
Quote
Usher's 2004 "Confessions" album hits a milestone sales achievement this week, surpassing 10 million in U.S. sales according to Nielsen SoundScan
But RIAA gave him a Diamond plaque even though he didn't
SHIP doesn't equal SALE
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
We know they track shipments - but they are generally sales oriented.
He moved to correct what I said by saying "No they are NOT sales oriented - they are shipment oriented."
That's not true. Maybe if he said both, I would have paid it no mind. But to say they aren't sales oriented doesn't make sense to me.
Every article and receipt we've pulled from the site has included their focus on sales.
That's why I prefaced my post with "technically"
because everyone is in here debating what "sales" are in RIAA's eyes
A TRUE sales tally would be for example:
Nicki has sold 781,942 copies thus far
When what RIAA has already said is that they base their "sales" off shipments
which is why you only see hard numbers such ass 500,000 1,000,000 etc
So they technically only track "shipments" for their sales.
Which--they said in the lank a bit
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
This is beyond Ray at this point. Imagine trying to uphold this level of density and irrationality :kii:
Off topic but did anyone else notice that Tracy Chapman is higher on this list than Beyonce' ... I did.. And I also noticed a ton of you saying the other day that she is/was a no one until she sued Nicki Minaj. You all were so far off! I'm glad to see this proof
:-D
n breakast, anyone?
Quote from: long-timeBfan on October 25, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
Off topic but did anyone else notice that Tracy Chapman is higher on this list than Beyonce' ... I did.. And I also noticed a ton of you saying the other day that she is/was a no one until she sued Nicki Minaj. You all were so far off! I'm glad to see this proof
:-D
Anyone with sense knew better :dead:
Tracy chapman has songs that are bigger and more impactful than ANY Nicki Minaj song
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:23:40 AM
And I think context is important here as well - it seems as if some of you feel me saying that RIAA is sales focused was my way of defending Nicki's numbers.
I was just speaking in regards to "sales" conversations we've had on here before.
My intent wasn't to speak on their practices, procedures, criteria, shipments, etc. I never got into all of that. I strictly stuck to "certifications". The title of the thread speaks to the number of certifications Nicki has received. Not the number of sales she's actually gotten.
I realize that a platinum album could very well have sold 800K copies in reality. I think we all know that.
Then why'd u say this?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
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This is what sparked this whole thing. You've been wrong and sounding dumb this whole fckn thread. What a fckn idiot :plzstop:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
We know they track shipments.
Exactly, doesn't mean the artist SOLD what they shipped, just means they SHIPPED that amount.
Billboard/SoundScan records how much they've SOLD, RIAA records have much they've shipped.
Usher back in 2012 finally SOLD 10 million copies of Confessions, but he got a diamond plaque for it years prior.
and look what they used as it's source?
Quote
Usher's 2004 "Confessions" album hits a milestone sales achievement this week, surpassing 10 million in U.S. sales according to Nielsen SoundScan
But RIAA gave him a Diamond plaque even though he didn't
SHIP doesn't equal SALE
Another example of RIAA inaccuracy
Beyonce's debut finally scanned 5 million copies back in 2015, but it still certified as 4x Plat
QuoteBeyonc??s debut solo album Dangerously In Love has now sold more than 5 million copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen Music.
Alexa check on herb. :stressed:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:24:21 AM
I remember those threads where the gorls were tryna TALLY things up a bit
And arguing for pages and pages about her certs.
Well, RIAA has answered us! Glad they cleared it up
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:omgwatshappening:
This thread is ghanny worthy. Brb
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:27:47 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
We know they track shipments.
Exactly, doesn't mean the artist SOLD what they shipped, just means they SHIPPED that amount.
Billboard/SoundScan records how much they've SOLD, RIAA records have much they've shipped.
Usher back in 2012 finally SOLD 10 million copies of Confessions, but he got a diamond plaque for it years prior.
and look what they used as it's source?
Quote
Usher's 2004 "Confessions" album hits a milestone sales achievement this week, surpassing 10 million in U.S. sales according to Nielsen SoundScan
But RIAA gave him a Diamond plaque even though he didn't
SHIP doesn't equal SALE
Another example of RIAA inaccuracy
Beyonce's debut finally scanned 5 million copies back in 2015, but it still certified as 4x Plat
QuoteBeyonc??s debut solo album Dangerously In Love has now sold more than 5 million copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen Music.
Another example
of Sales vs Shipments
Billboard has Mariah Carey sales for
Oh right ? your question. Carey's day job! Here's a look at the U.S. album sales,
according to SoundScan for Carey, the solo artist with the most Hot 100 No. 1s (18) in the chart's history:
7,605,000, "Daydream" (1995)
7,271,000, "Music Box" (1993)
but the RIAA has both albums at Diamond :guys:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/1555095/ask-billboard-belindas-back-jt-too-mariah-careys-album-sales
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:10:09 AM
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 08:09:55 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:02:11 AM
I'd say a company like UPS or FedEx would be "shipment oriented".
That's their speciality.
They would be the carrier/delivery mess
But what we're talking about is the tallying of the AMOUNT shipments made--and THAT being the determining factor for why RIAA hands out certs.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
I jus.........
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:59:24 AM
Can somebody explain why he wants SALES info from riaa when they do CERTIFICATIONS only?
but the certs are drawn up from sales :dead: And other factors
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 08:09:55 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:02:11 AM
I'd say a company like UPS or FedEx would be "shipment oriented".
That's their speciality.
They would be the carrier/delivery mess
But what we're talking about is the tallying of the AMOUNT shipments made--and THAT being the determining factor for why RIAA hands out certs.
when is the last time a record company has actually shipped out physical CDs for, say, a single?
Y'all need to refresh your browsers. This ain't the 1999, mya rugrsts theme song flop release party. RIAA don't operate in that way no more
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:36:05 AM
True
or False
I never got into their procedures, practices, etc.
FALSE!
Why'd u say this if u didn't wanna get technical about procedures and practices
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
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And then when people corrected and informed yo simple ass, u broke right into stubborn, cant admit to being wrong mode. You're an idiot. Take the L and move on :kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:38:21 AM
Mornin' bvy sis :woohoo:
I see everybody is still stuck tryna prove Mya's false point to be true. I feel bad the gorls :kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:16:18 AM
Let's get to the bottom of this . I'm going to make a statement - tell me if it is true or false.
They are a sales focused company. Is this true or false?
Zzzzzzzbzsbzbzbzbsbssbbsbs
Boy
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:36:05 AM
True
or False
I never got into their procedures, practices, etc.
The question here is -
Is RIAA a sales oriented company or not? Issa true, or issa false.
The floor is yours.
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We'll answer that when you log in and give us receipts
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 08:40:53 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:36:05 AM
True
or False
I never got into their procedures, practices, etc.
FALSE!
Why'd u say this if u didn't wanna get technical about procedures and practices
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/MItfyR.gif)
And then when people corrected and informed yo simple ass, u broke right into stubborn, cant admit to being wrong mode. You're an idiot. Take the L and move on :kii:
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: 'ology on October 25, 2018, 08:41:56 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:16:18 AM
Let's get to the bottom of this . I'm going to make a statement - tell me if it is true or false.
They are a sales focused company. Is this true or false?
Zzzzzzzbzsbzbzbzbsbssbbsbs
Boy
to be fair, that is the point Mya tried refuting in the beginning and it jumpstarted all this mess
Can you answer the question? :guys:
lets play a game of true and false!
not so fast sis!
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:27:47 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
We know they track shipments.
Exactly, doesn't mean the artist SOLD what they shipped, just means they SHIPPED that amount.
Billboard/SoundScan records how much they've SOLD, RIAA records have much they've shipped.
Usher back in 2012 finally SOLD 10 million copies of Confessions, but he got a diamond plaque for it years prior.
and look what they used as it's source?
Quote
Usher's 2004 "Confessions" album hits a milestone sales achievement this week, surpassing 10 million in U.S. sales according to Nielsen SoundScan
But RIAA gave him a Diamond plaque even though he didn't
SHIP doesn't equal SALE
Another example of RIAA inaccuracy
Beyonce's debut finally scanned 5 million copies back in 2015, but it still certified as 4x Plat
QuoteBeyonc??s debut solo album Dangerously In Love has now sold more than 5 million copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen Music.
I did this soooooo many pages back with Nicki "Queen" and Boyz II Men "II". I don't get what's hard to get about the concept of certifications vs actual sale tallies.
Don't nobody wanna answer the question
Why
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Quote from: 'ology on October 25, 2018, 08:44:56 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:27:47 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
We know they track shipments.
Exactly, doesn't mean the artist SOLD what they shipped, just means they SHIPPED that amount.
Billboard/SoundScan records how much they've SOLD, RIAA records have much they've shipped.
Usher back in 2012 finally SOLD 10 million copies of Confessions, but he got a diamond plaque for it years prior.
and look what they used as it's source?
Quote
Usher's 2004 "Confessions" album hits a milestone sales achievement this week, surpassing 10 million in U.S. sales according to Nielsen SoundScan
But RIAA gave him a Diamond plaque even though he didn't
SHIP doesn't equal SALE
Another example of RIAA inaccuracy
Beyonce's debut finally scanned 5 million copies back in 2015, but it still certified as 4x Plat
QuoteBeyonc??s debut solo album Dangerously In Love has now sold more than 5 million copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen Music.
I did this soooooo many pages back with Nicki "Queen" and Boyz II Men "II". I don't get what's hard to get about the concept of certifications vs actual sale tallies.
Common sense isn't that common hun
He'd rather argue non-existent points than face facts.
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:45:49 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 25, 2018, 08:44:56 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:27:47 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
We know they track shipments.
Exactly, doesn't mean the artist SOLD what they shipped, just means they SHIPPED that amount.
Billboard/SoundScan records how much they've SOLD, RIAA records have much they've shipped.
Usher back in 2012 finally SOLD 10 million copies of Confessions, but he got a diamond plaque for it years prior.
and look what they used as it's source?
Quote
Usher's 2004 "Confessions" album hits a milestone sales achievement this week, surpassing 10 million in U.S. sales according to Nielsen SoundScan
But RIAA gave him a Diamond plaque even though he didn't
SHIP doesn't equal SALE
Another example of RIAA inaccuracy
Beyonce's debut finally scanned 5 million copies back in 2015, but it still certified as 4x Plat
QuoteBeyonc??s debut solo album Dangerously In Love has now sold more than 5 million copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen Music.
I did this soooooo many pages back with Nicki "Queen" and Boyz II Men "II". I don't get what's hard to get about the concept of certifications vs actual sale tallies.
Common sense isn't that common hun
He'd rather argue non-existent points than face facts.
It's the refusal to be wrong that's really the driving force here. It's embarrassing at this point. Literally the whole board is in here rag tagging that faulty, irrational ass logic :dead:
This thread is kinda crazy
Nicki has more certs
Missy has more reported album sales
They both are Female rap legends and super successful
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:44:07 AM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:38:21 AM
Mornin' bvy sis :woohoo:
I see everybody is still stuck tryna prove Mya's false point to be true. I feel bad the gorls :kii:
nnnnn
I'm just waiting on the true or false mess.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:27:04 AM
Now, a simple true or false is all I am asking for. No explanations - just cut to the chase.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:16:18 AM
Let's get to the bottom of this . I'm going to make a statement - tell me if it is true or false.
They are a sales focused company. Is this true or false?
Any takers? Jayden? 'ron? 'ology? My precious sweet Dorian bvy?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lO5eGEnyRA
these girls think RIAA is still tracking shipments only in a SPS world
They're lost. And ain't gon be answerin this no time soon
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I'm not even bashing Nicki this is just the way it is lol even Brandys debut is over certifed it's more dramatic on older albums than more current ones since they actually shipped more physicals.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:44:07 AM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:38:21 AM
Mornin' bvy sis :woohoo:
I see everybody is still stuck tryna prove Mya's false point to be true. I feel bad the gorls :kii:
nnnnn
I'm just waiting on the true or false mess.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:27:04 AM
Now, a simple true or false is all I am asking for. No explanations - just cut to the chase.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:16:18 AM
Let's get to the bottom of this . I'm going to make a statement - tell me if it is true or false.
They are a sales focused company. Is this true or false?
Any takers? Jayden? 'ron? 'ology? My precious sweet Dorian bvy?
dddd
I'll say false.
Because sales don't mean shipments and that's what they base their "sales" off of.
You can ship a million copies and not actually SELL it...true or false?
Vvvfchbbvvvccbbccvvbvvc
Oh young
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:34:48 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:27:47 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
We know they track shipments.
Exactly, doesn't mean the artist SOLD what they shipped, just means they SHIPPED that amount.
Billboard/SoundScan records how much they've SOLD, RIAA records have much they've shipped.
Usher back in 2012 finally SOLD 10 million copies of Confessions, but he got a diamond plaque for it years prior.
and look what they used as it's source?
Quote
Usher's 2004 "Confessions" album hits a milestone sales achievement this week, surpassing 10 million in U.S. sales according to Nielsen SoundScan
But RIAA gave him a Diamond plaque even though he didn't
SHIP doesn't equal SALE
Another example of RIAA inaccuracy
Beyonce's debut finally scanned 5 million copies back in 2015, but it still certified as 4x Plat
QuoteBeyonc??s debut solo album Dangerously In Love has now sold more than 5 million copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen Music.
Another example
of Sales vs Shipments
Billboard has Mariah Carey sales for
Oh right ? your question. Carey's day job! Here's a look at the U.S. album sales, according to SoundScan for Carey, the solo artist with the most Hot 100 No. 1s (18) in the chart's history:
7,605,000, "Daydream" (1995)
7,271,000, "Music Box" (1993)
but the RIAA has both albums at Diamond :guys:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/1555095/ask-billboard-belindas-back-jt-too-mariah-careys-album-sales
Whitney Houston's "The Body Guard" is 18x Platinum despite it selling 12.14 million according to soundscan
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6281504/adele-21-surpasses-11-million-sales
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
We know they track shipments.
Exactly, doesn't mean the artist SOLD what they shipped, just means they SHIPPED that amount.
Billboard/SoundScan records how much they've SOLD, RIAA records have much they've shipped.
Usher back in 2012 finally SOLD 10 million copies of Confessions, but he got a diamond plaque for it years prior.
and look what they used as it's source?
Quote
Usher's 2004 "Confessions" album hits a milestone sales achievement this week, surpassing 10 million in U.S. sales according to Nielsen SoundScan
But RIAA gave him a Diamond plaque even though he didn't
SHIP doesn't equal SALE
Another example of RIAA inaccuracy
Beyonce's debut finally scanned 5 million copies back in 2015, but it still certified as 4x Plat
QuoteBeyonc??s debut solo album Dangerously In Love has now sold more than 5 million copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen Music.
I did this soooooo many pages back with Nicki "Queen" and Boyz II Men "II". I don't get what's hard to get about the concept of certifications vs actual sale tallies.
Common sense isn't that common hun
He'd rather argue non-existent points than face facts.
It's the refusal to be wrong that's really the driving force here. It's embarrassing at this point. Literally the whole board is in here rag tagging that faulty, irrational ass logic :dead:
King of arguing semantics
nigger only you care whether they're sales orientated or not
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Mornin' bvy sis :woohoo:
I see everybody is still stuck tryna prove Mya's false point to be true. I feel bad the gorls :kii:
nnnnn
I'm just waiting on the true or false mess.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:27:04 AM
Now, a simple true or false is all I am asking for. No explanations - just cut to the chase.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:16:18 AM
Let's get to the bottom of this . I'm going to make a statement - tell me if it is true or false.
They are a sales focused company. Is this true or false?
Any takers? Jayden? 'ron? 'ology? My precious sweet Dorian bvy?
dddd
I'll say false.
Because sales don't mean shipments and that's what they base their "sales" off of.
You can ship a million copies and not actually SELL it...true or false?
So they compile sales data,
No they compile Shipment data
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
Quotebut are not sales oriented?
Yeah they're not
Hey can somebody show me where I can find album sales at on RIAAS website
Quote from: november on October 25, 2018, 08:55:15 AM
Hey can somebody show me where I can find album sales at on RIAAS website
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
:kii: :kii: :kii:
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Hey can somebody show me where I can find album sales at on RIAAS website
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
We know they track shipments.
Exactly, doesn't mean the artist SOLD what they shipped, just means they SHIPPED that amount.
Billboard/SoundScan records how much they've SOLD, RIAA records have much they've shipped.
Usher back in 2012 finally SOLD 10 million copies of Confessions, but he got a diamond plaque for it years prior.
and look what they used as it's source?
Quote
Usher's 2004 "Confessions" album hits a milestone sales achievement this week, surpassing 10 million in U.S. sales according to Nielsen SoundScan
But RIAA gave him a Diamond plaque even though he didn't
SHIP doesn't equal SALE
Another example of RIAA inaccuracy
Beyonce's debut finally scanned 5 million copies back in 2015, but it still certified as 4x Plat
QuoteBeyonc??s debut solo album Dangerously In Love has now sold more than 5 million copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen Music.
Another example
of Sales vs Shipments
Billboard has Mariah Carey sales for
Oh right ? your question. Carey's day job! Here's a look at the U.S. album sales, according to SoundScan for Carey, the solo artist with the most Hot 100 No. 1s (18) in the chart's history:
7,605,000, "Daydream" (1995)
7,271,000, "Music Box" (1993)
but the RIAA has both albums at Diamond :guys:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/1555095/ask-billboard-belindas-back-jt-too-mariah-careys-album-sales
Whitney Houston's "The Body Guard" is 18x Platinum despite it selling 12.14 million according to soundscan
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6281504/adele-21-surpasses-11-million-sales
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I didn?t make the claim in the topic title and tell you guys to fetch the info in my OP.
It?s not my responsibility to prove a claim made by someone else in an attempt to contradict me lol.
We said before that Missy outsold Nicki and backed it up with a Billboard link
You said she didn't
Why don't you prove us wrong with a soundscan link
here
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
:justabit:
Bdbdbdbbdbd
Turn the tables! Balls in YOUR court!
Nice try Jayden.
Try what? :diddraispoot:
You don't want to find out?
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:58:54 AM
Jayd,
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you want the link mess?
here
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
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log in or stfu
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:04:17 AM
HE said that Missy is the top selling female rapper of all time.
I simply requested Soundscan links to prove it. That's all.
and he did, via Billboard, do you have anything that trumps that?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:02:50 AM
I never said I was on a mission to prove anything from Soundscan . :omf:
This thread was about RIAA certs. My link's in the OP.
Then why'd u say this
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
if you want the direct tea yourself here:
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:02:50 AM
I never said I was on a mission to prove anything from Soundscan . :omf:
This thread was about RIAA certs. My link's in the OP.
Then why'd u say this
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Afro?
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:02:50 AM
I never said I was on a mission to prove anything from Soundscan . :omf:
This thread was about RIAA certs. My link's in the OP.
Then why'd u say this
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Afro?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:06:45 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 09:05:08 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:04:17 AM
HE said that Missy is the top selling female rapper of all time.
I simply requested Soundscan links to prove it. That's all.
and he did, via Billboard.
That's not what I requested.
You can't get Soundscan or RIAA links from another website.
Well that's what you got
Billboard is the only one authorized to do so, and they did, which he posted.
If you want to a pay a fee and get them youself
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:04:17 AM
HE said that Missy is the top selling female rapper of all time.
I simply requested Soundscan links to prove it. That's all.
and he did, via Billboard.
That's not what I requested.
You can't get Soundscan or RIAA links from another website.
Billboard is the only one authorized to do so, and they did, which he posted.
If you want to a pay a fee and get them youself
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
Huh? I posted an RIAA link with relevant data in the OP and I'm not a Billboard writer/employee.
Get me the links I requested, and my damn true/false mess.
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Ok I'll dumb it down for you
Billboard and ONLY Billboard has access to soundscan.
He posted what you wanted via Billboard, no one can get info from Soundscan, only Billboard. That's why you've been avoiding my requests to log in and find out because you... cant.
and if Billboard isn't good enough all of a sudden, I don't wanna see you see use their numbers in defense of Nicki ever again :kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
Why do you keep referring to Soundscan only , as if I didn't give more than one option? lol
Because RIAA isn't accurate when it comes to sales, only sound-scan is.
Which was proved from page 1 up until now, a fact you conveniently decided to skip over
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
Why do you keep referring to Soundscan only , as if I didn't give more than one option? lol
Because you're talking about sales which is a soundscan thing. U clearly didn't know that and that's why u said this
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 09:16:58 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
Why do you keep referring to Soundscan only , as if I didn't give more than one option? lol
Because RIAA isn't accurate when it comes to sales, only sound-scan is.
Which was proved from page 1 up until now, a fact you conveniently decided to skip over
This DUMMY :kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:20:19 AM
Jayd, you cannot dictate which sources I find more reliable than others.
It's not about YOU
it's about facts, unless you're a regulator of figures or work for RIAA please stop :uhh: :dead:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:20:19 AM
Unless the article comes directly from the source that provides the data.
It did, it does and your pissed that you were proven wrong 4334 in your own thread so your trying to save face by arguing semantics and splitting hairs.
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:20:19 AM
Jayd, you cannot dictate which sources I find more reliable than others.
It's not about YOU
it's about facts, unless you're a regular please stop :uhh: :dead:
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
dead @ "you can't dictate to me what I find accurate!"
Then you can't dictate to us either nigga! :uhh:
Sales?
Soundscan>>>RIAA
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:20:19 AM
Unless the article comes directly from the source that provides the data.
It did, it does and your pissed that you were proven wrong 4334 in your own thread so your trying to save face by arguing semantics and splitting hairs.
Billboard doesn't compile Soundscan's data.
Billboard reports soundscans data and is the only authorized to do so
You think Soundscan would allow Billboard to falsely report their data for 2 decades and not say anything? :dead:
Afro bro...
Not discrediting Billboard :dead:
I can see if it was a regular like Vibe or Shaderoom or other just NEWS source
but Billboard?
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 09:26:47 AM
Afro bro...
Not discrediting Billboard :dead:
I can see if it was a regular like Vibe or Shaderoom or other just NEWS source
but Billboard?
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
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dead @ "you can't dictate to me what I find accurate!"
Then you can't dictate to us either nigga! :uhh:
whatever that Billboard writer
So what your saying now is that Billboard is inaccurate and biased even though we're talking figures and facts and not opinion?
Gotcha.
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 09:26:47 AM
Afro bro...
Not discrediting Billboard :dead:
I can see if it was a regular like Vibe or Shaderoom or other just NEWS source
but Billboard?
Not RAY too :plzstop:
and on the other hand, there?s not a lot of ?shipping? in this digital and streaming era
in cases like Anti selling like 700k and being 2x Platinum from digital downloads RIAA tracked more than shipments
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:30:47 AM
Now if I started this thread with a link from VIBE and then demanded that you guys cough up a direct RIAA link, I think that would be unfair.
But considering I began this thread with an RIAA link with compiled data for each artist, it's reasonable that I request the same of someone else in here.
Well you started the thread off wrong and misinformed and had to be corrected three times until you removed 50 from the OP and title altogether :dead:
Then proceeded to attempt to state that Nicki outsold Missy because she's the most 2nd plaqued up female rapper DESPITE being proven that RIAA plaques don't equal accurate sales, something which Billboard/Sound-scan proved for Missy.
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dead @ "you can't dictate to me what I find accurate!"
Then you can't dictate to us either nigga! :uhh:
whatever that Billboard writer
So what your saying now is that Billboard is inaccurate and biased even though we're talking figures and facts and not opinion?
Gotcha.
I never said that Jayden.
I just find some sources to be more reliable than others in this conversation.
So your basically picking and choosing what sources are accurate to suit you.
Gotcha.
somebody find a thread where Afro was using billboard to prove a point and end this
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:34:35 AM
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:30:47 AM
Now if I started this thread with a link from VIBE and then demanded that you guys cough up a direct RIAA link, I think that would be unfair.
But considering I began this thread with an RIAA link with compiled data for each artist, it's reasonable that I request the same of someone else in here.
Well you started the thread off wrong and misinformed and had to be corrected three times until you removed 50 from the OP and title altogether :dead:
Yeah we've covered that.
Exactly so don't try and tell us what to provide and give when you can't and couldn't do
THAT right from post 1
Quote from: L0NZ. on October 25, 2018, 09:35:14 AM
somebody find a thread where Afro was using billboard to prove a point and end this
*looks through Cardi threads*
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dead @ "you can't dictate to me what I find accurate!"
Then you can't dictate to us either nigga! :uhh:
whatever that Billboard writer
So what your saying now is that Billboard is inaccurate and biased even though we're talking figures and facts and not opinion?
Gotcha.
I never said that Jayden.
I just find some sources to be more reliable than others in this conversation.
So your basically picking and choosing what sources are accurate to suit you.
Gotcha.
But
nothing sis
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:30:47 AM
Now if I started this thread with a link from VIBE and then demanded that you guys cough up a direct RIAA link, I think that would be unfair.
But considering I began this thread with an RIAA link with compiled data for each artist, it's reasonable that I request the same of someone else in here.
Well you started the thread off wrong and misinformed and had to be corrected three times until you removed 50 from the OP and title altogether :dead:
Yeah we've covered that.
Exactly so don't try and tell us what to provide and give when you can't and couldn't do THAT right from post 1
Do you have the link?
do you?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:30:47 AM
Now if I started this thread with a link from VIBE and then demanded that you guys cough up a direct RIAA link, I think that would be unfair.
But considering I began this thread with an RIAA link with compiled data for each artist, it's reasonable that I request the same of someone else in here.
Well you started the thread off wrong and misinformed
Yeah we've covered that.
Ok. Close this :dead:
sorry but the way the thread title and OP changed every 3 mins when he got hit with the FACTS
now you want us to do the fact finding? :uhh: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
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dead @ "you can't dictate to me what I find accurate!"
Then you can't dictate to us either nigga! :uhh:
whatever that Billboard writer
So what your saying now is that Billboard is inaccurate and biased even though we're talking figures and facts and not opinion?
Gotcha.
I never said that Jayden.
I just find some sources to be more reliable than others in this conversation.
So your basically picking and choosing what sources are accurate to suit you.
Gotcha.
But
nothing sis
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i cnt brth
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people tend to do that when they've exhausted every avenue
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 09:38:11 AM
sorry but the way the thread title and OP changed every 3 mins when he got hit with the FACTS
now you want us to do the fact finding? :uhh: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
How tf u start a thread off with misinformation and being WRONG the whole way thru and trying to make requests? Where's the link that corroborates nicki Minaj selling more than missy to justify the statement he made. Honestly, he's an idiot :dead:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:39:04 AM
All I wanted was a link direct link to RIAA or Soundscan to prove ology's claims.
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html here
:plea:
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dead @ "you can't dictate to me what I find accurate!"
Then you can't dictate to us either nigga! :uhh:
whatever that Billboard writer
So what your saying now is that Billboard is inaccurate and biased even though we're talking figures and facts and not opinion?
Gotcha.
I never said that Jayden.
I just find some sources to be more reliable than others in this conversation.
So your basically picking and choosing what sources are accurate to suit you.
Gotcha.
But
nothing sis
[pk]jo[nhi9bpg8uvfoycidtxufrzykx
i cnt brth
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people tend to do that when they've exhausted every avenue
I haven't exhausted anything
Do you have the link :usureuok:
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/client-login.html
now fact find the way you searched through RIAA and tell us
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: L0NZ. on October 25, 2018, 09:35:14 AM
somebody find a thread where Afro was using billboard to prove a point and end this
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Why don't you do it, hun. You have the bright idea
nnnnnnnnn hmph
Not billboard being accurate here
Quote from: Two Spirit on June 07, 2018, 01:00:10 PM
Oof. This slow burning lullaby
QuoteToni Braxton achieves her eighth career No. 1 on the Adult R&B Songs airplay chart as ?Long as I Live? ascends from the runner-up position. The tune, which tops the chart dated June 9, climbs with an 8 percent boost in plays in the week ending June 3, according to Nielsen Music.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8459721/toni-braxton-long-as-i-live-number-1-adult-rb-songs-chart
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here
Quote from: Two Spirit on August 17, 2018, 03:08:08 PM
I can't wait to see the streaming numbers, etc.
One thing I learned as I watched the gorls track Nickis every move is..
What matters most when it comes to those Billboard teas.
Come thru gor! We'll see what Spotify has to say soon enough
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and here
Quote from: Two Spirit on August 14, 2018, 10:04:55 PM
Quote from: MAISON-MARGIELA. on August 14, 2018, 10:04:16 PM
I love when Billboard comes with Facts.
:omf:
the excitement in these ones too
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on August 11, 2018, 05:27:04 PM
Billboard: Nicki Minaj Reclaims Her Throne On 'Queen'
QuoteMinaj also enlists Foxy Brown for some gruffly patois-tinged bars on ?Coco Chanel.? It's not an unlikely pairing considering the two only really cosign each other, but the power of that cameo may fly over younger artists? heads who aren?t hip to the legendary Brown or even the legacy of Biggie. A nod to the late Prodigy of Mobb Deep on ?Hard White? may also slip under the radar, subtly proving that maybe Nicki didn?t release this album for a fair-weather millennial crowd.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8469731/nicki-minaj-queen-album-review
She did this shit for the HOOD :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on July 31, 2018, 11:06:20 AM
Billboard finally updated the site.
https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100
:omf:
afro just stfu :plzstop:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:00:24 AM
Of course Billboard would be the go-to for charts.
So Billboard are accurate for charts and not sales even though they report from SoundScan?
Got it.
Yea yea yea
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not 30 fcking pages :dead:
looks like this thread ended just where it started. With lies
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:07:42 AM
Many people refer to it as a "fake news" organization.
Yh idiots.
So your comfortable using Billboard in support of Nicki, just not in the defense of someone else.
Quote from: Zanny on October 25, 2018, 10:14:25 AM
not 30 fcking pages :dead:
looks like this thread ended just where it started. With lies
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Zanny on October 25, 2018, 10:14:25 AM
not 30 fcking pages :dead:
looks like this thread ended just where it started. With lies
:kii:
omg I'm on the ground
Quote from: Zanny on October 25, 2018, 10:14:25 AM
not 30 fcking pages :dead:
looks like this thread ended just where it started. With lies
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:38:59 AM
Quote50 Cent most certified male rapper/Nicki 2nd most certified female rapper
down to
QuoteRIAA: 50 is 3rd most cert'd male rapper/Nicki 2nd most certified female rapper
to
QuoteRIAA: Nicki 2nd most certified female rapper in history. PERIOD.
and still being WRONG has me doing the laffy taffy
the way 50 just vanished from his fonts
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:26:04 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
and the way he just skipped past all this too
this along with that voodoodoo thread is classic
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:07:42 AM
Many people refer to it as a "fake news" organization.
So your comfortable using Billboard in support of Nicki
if the conversation is specifically regarding the Billboard charts.
So you believe their chart data, just not their album sales data.
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:24:17 AM
this along with that voodoodoo thread is classic
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That thread was iconic but this one is special :tistheseas:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 24, 2018, 11:11:41 AM
"Still Standing" platinum?????
good damn bye :kii:
all these inflated sales up in this bitch are making me holler :kii:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:23:55 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 09:26:04 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Certified doesn't mean it's been sold szzzzzzzzz
Which is why Queen was certified at like 700k.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
and the way he just skipped past all this too
Zzzzzzzvszvzvzvvzvx
That's why I just started hop scotching over most of those lank posts we've been going in circles :plzstop:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:27:10 AM
They're my go-to for Billboard chart information.
but not sales?
Quote from: Two Spirit on August 17, 2018, 03:08:08 PM
I can't wait to see the streaming numbers, etc.
One thing I learned as I watched the gorls track Nickis every move is..
What matters most when it comes to those Billboard teas.
Come thru gor! We'll see what Spotify has to say soon enough
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:37:21 AM
But I would not go there and look at articles written by their employees if I were looking to verify data compiled by another company. I'm sorry - it's just a preference.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:40:45 AM
What's funny about that? I don't consider a dated article written years ago by an employee of another site to be substantial proof of 'ology's claim.
but this is ok though right
complied by Nielsen, reported by a different entity.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 10, 2018, 10:23:11 PM
TV Ratings: American Music Awards Slip 25% to New Low
The American Music Awards hit a new all-time low in the Nielsen ratings on Tuesday night.
ABC aired only the AMAs on Tuesday, with the three hour show drawing a 1.8 rating in adults 18-49 and 6.5 million viewers. That is down 25% in the key demo and approximately 29% in total viewers compared to the 2017 broadcast, which drew a 2.4 rating and 9.2 million viewers. 2017 and 2016 had previously set the demo low for the awards show, with both of those broadcasts drawing a 2.4. The AMAs also moved from Sunday in November for the first time in more than a decade this year.
This is the latest example of an awards show seeing serious declines year-over-year. Back in September, the Emmy Awards on NBC also put up an all-time low.
More @ https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/american-music-awards-ratings-2018-1202975298/
Yikes.
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again complied by nielsen reported by a different entity
Quote from: Two Spirit on June 07, 2018, 01:00:10 PM
Oof. This slow burning lullaby
QuoteToni Braxton achieves her eighth career No. 1 on the Adult R&B Songs airplay chart as ?Long as I Live? ascends from the runner-up position. The tune, which tops the chart dated June 9, climbs with an 8 percent boost in plays in the week ending June 3, according to Nielsen Music.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8459721/toni-braxton-long-as-i-live-number-1-adult-rb-songs-chart
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I just
whew
yes because you posted it
what about the Toni one? and this one
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on March 29, 2018, 12:40:03 AM
Not it gnawing on Rock's skull
For the first time in history, hip-hop has surpassed rock to become the most popular music genre, according to Nielsen
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5a4e5b3ec32ae68b008b45b4-1334-1000.jpg)
For the first time ever, hip-hop surpassed rock as the most popular genre in the US in 2017, according to Nielsen's year-end report on the music industry.
Nielsen said the hip-hop/R&B genre ended as the largest genre of the year in terms of "total consumption," which includes album sales and album-equivalent streaming figures.
Seven of the top ten most-consumed albums of the year came from the hip-hop/R&B genre, with Kendrick Lamar's "DAMN." taking the second spot behind Ed Sheeran's "Divide."
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5a4e5cfb3225de1d008b45e8-1136-626.png)
Drake and Lamar came in first and second, respectively, on Nielsen's list of the ten most popular artists of the year, in terms of total consumption. Eight of the top ten artists came from the hip-hop/R&B genre.
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5a4e5d91c32ae63f018b45cc-1136-600.png)
Nielsen noted that the growth in popularity of the hip-hop/R&B genre was "powered by a 72% increase in on-demand audio streaming" in the genre.
Overall, on-demand audio streaming saw a 59% increase in 2017. This figure boosted the total volume of music consumption up by 12.5% compared to 2016, despite year-over-year declines in album and track sales.
http://www.businessinsider.com/hip-hop-passes-rock-most-popular-music-genre-nielsen-2018-1
Sarah and Becky are eating this shit the fuck up.
Im done
These contradictory ass posts combating all his mess :plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 10:47:06 AM
These contradictory ass posts combating all his mess :plzstop:
im in tears vonc
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:50:54 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 10:47:06 AM
These contradictory ass posts combating all his mess :plzstop:
im in tears vonc
SHAKING!
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Not this jumping twenty more pages...
:udontlookok:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:48:17 AM
And if someone were to challenge me to verify I wouldn't tell them, "Variety said so it's FAX! Period!"
So unless you see me somewhere in the thread saying that, I don't get your point.
You posted it, so obviously you believe it :dead: :dead:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:48:17 AM
And if someone were to challenge me to verify I wouldn't tell them, "Variety said so it's FAX! Period!"
So unless you see me somewhere in the thread saying that, I don't get your point.
You posted it, so obviously you believe it :dead: :dead:
I also made a post saying Pon has an STD.
With your logic I'd assume I believe that too.
So basically ur saying u post things u dont believe and to put no stock into ur posts. This idiot is really scrambling
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:48:17 AM
And if someone were to challenge me to verify I wouldn't tell them, "Variety said so it's FAX! Period!"
So unless you see me somewhere in the thread saying that, I don't get your point.
You posted it, so obviously you believe it :dead: :dead:
I also made a post saying Pon has an STD.
With your logic I'd assume I believe that too.
Did you post a link/source to Pon's STD? No.
But you posted a link/source to everything else you posted? No, then proceeded to celebrate it :dead: :kii:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:48:17 AM
And if someone were to challenge me to verify I wouldn't tell them, "Variety said so it's FAX! Period!"
So unless you see me somewhere in the thread saying that, I don't get your point.
You posted it, so obviously you believe it :dead: :dead:
I also made a post saying Pon has an STD.
With your logic I'd assume I believe that too.
Did you post a link/source to Pon's STD? No.
But you posted a link/source to everything else you posted then proceeded to celebrate it :dead: :kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:48:17 AM
And if someone were to challenge me to verify I wouldn't tell them, "Variety said so it's FAX! Period!"
So unless you see me somewhere in the thread saying that, I don't get your point.
You posted it, so obviously you believe it :dead: :dead:
I also made a post saying Pon has an STD.
With your logic I'd assume I believe that too.
the only true thing you've said in here
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:55:41 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:54:46 AM
Speaking of STD's...
If I am truly invested in a conversation I definitely go to the source for verification. I'm sure you remember our many conversations about STD's in the gay community.
Was I quoting "Gay & Bi Weekly" magazine or the Center for Disease Control?
In regards to what? stats?
Doesn't matter you quote or where as long as they INCLUDE a link no?
Gay & Bi Weekly magazine may lay it out in lay term terms for the average reader to understand then back it up a link, that's how it usually works.
Not dismissing an entire publication because it didn't come up with the data, rather than report it. :plzstop: :plzstop:
Wikipedia always has a library of links and sources if you look for them just because it's wiki doesn't mean it's less valid.
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 11:00:49 AM
Wikipedia always has a library of links and sources if you look for them just because it's wiki doesn't mean it's less valid.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 11:00:44 AM
grab anything and throw it to the wall.
ghthgstr
like you've been doing for 30 pages?
Nah you seem to have mastered that skill well.
proper posting etiquette?
gorl fuck off :dead:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BnopN4Lj04Y
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 11:11:13 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 11:05:44 AM
proper posting etiquette?
gorl fuck off :dead:
Yeah, I always post a source link in many threads I make - regardless of topic.
Have you not noticed that?
To me it's just proper etiquette if you take it upon yourself to bring a report/news to the board. Again, just my preference.
I'm a writer at heart. lol
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=63269.msg1789914#msg1789914
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=63218.msg1788882#msg1788882
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=62995.msg1783498#msg1783498
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=62947.msg1782659#msg1782659
Even in this thread I included a link to the previous thread that May made so you guys could catch up before digging into what I posted.
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=62917.msg1781904#msg1781904
It's just being helpful. And thinking forward so no one has to ask "Where did this come from?" or "What is this about?"
sure sis
Everything alright guys
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30 pages im sure it's mess in hea.
I am too tired to read and see where the MESS started.
That's all I'll say in hea.
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 11:13:46 AM
Everything alright guys
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No
sdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
what the FUCK
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Glad to see everyone getting along <3
Quote from: Poseidon on October 25, 2018, 07:17:08 AM
it?s pointless. At this point you are asking for a vessel not actual information. The editors at billboard are subscribed to Soundscan and get their information from there, like we all do. It?s impossible to produce a link because they don?t offer public links. So you ate clinging onto something, where you should know it is non-existent. The link you speak of. Not the information however. That is right there. And if you claim billboard is unreliable as far as numbers and tracking the sales, success etc of a song, you should never name any Nicki billboard records. What do u think they are based on, instagram likes?
fijikf
has Afro ever posted a soundscan link to anything. I'm requesting this
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 08:07:34 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 02:44:11 PM
More articles?
I went straight to RIAA to confirm that they are definitely "sales" oriented, Laz. You were wrong in saying that they wouldn't fall under a "sales" category.
There's not much more to it.
Technically they're "shipment" oriented though
Really? Here's how they describe their mission -
QuoteOriginally conceived to honor artists and track sound recording sales
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/
Yeah sis!
QuoteThe RIAA provides the most comprehensive data on U.S. recorded music revenues and shipments dating all the way back to 1973. This is the definitive source of revenue data for the recorded music industry in the United States.
U.S. Sales Database - RIAA
https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database
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damnnn I didn?t see that. Malc stragged Afro there
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 08:37:38 AM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:59:24 AM
Can somebody explain why he wants SALES info from riaa when they do CERTIFICATIONS only?
but the certs are drawn up from sales
Of shipments :dead:
Not only shipments anymore
Physical sales are declining
Quote from: november on October 25, 2018, 08:55:15 AM
Hey can somebody show me where I can find album sales at on RIAAS website
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Quote from: L0NZ. on October 25, 2018, 01:27:56 PM
damnnn I didn?t see that. Malc stragged Afro there
That's been happening this entire thread. Not malcolm dragging :plzstop:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
Why do you keep referring to Soundscan only , as if I didn't give more than one option? lol
When RIAA starts tallying or tracking sales be sure to let us know hun.
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 09:26:47 AM
Afro bro...
Not discrediting Billboard :dead:
I can see if it was a regular like Vibe or Shaderoom or other just NEWS source
but Billboard?
fjjjjffff
And calling Billboard a "third party source" but trying to prove Queen is platinum by posting screenshots from random people on Twitter. :omf:
This argument is going in circles
guys Afro doesn?t accept Billboard articles which cite Soundscan as a source
as proof of sales numbers because he doesn?t want to
and RIAA to a certain extent does track sales because
digital downloads and streams can not be shipped
and they have awarded plaques to albums based purely on downloads
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:33:01 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
Why do you keep referring to Soundscan only , as if I didn't give more than one option? lol
When RIAA starts tallying or tracking sales be sure to let us know hun.
Im HOLLERING! I haven't seen a thread of someone being thrashed by EVERYONE in a while :plzstop:
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 01:37:27 PM
This argument is going in circles
guys Afro doesn?t accept Billboard articles which cite Soundscan as a source
as proof of sales numbers because he doesn?t want to
and RIAA to a certain extent does track sales because
digital downloads and streams can not be shipped
and they have awarded plaques to albums based purely on downloads
Hey bro what do they use to track streams?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 01:37:27 PM
This argument is going in circles
guys Afro doesn?t accept Billboard articles which cite Soundscan as a source
as proof of sales numbers because he doesn?t want to
and RIAA to a certain extent does track sales because
digital downloads and streams can not be shipped
and they have awarded plaques to albums based purely on downloads
:omf:
It's that simple.
If they do not have what I deem to be acceptable in this conversation, that's fine.
That article written years ago by another website is not acceptable proof to me today - here and now.
That may not be the same for some. And that's OK.
It's simply a matter of preference.
I just asked for a couple links :stressed:
bro come on though. this ?another website? mess is nonsense
Billboard is 100% factual with their reports from Soundscan
There?s never been a discussion that Billboard posted incorrect numbers
Come on man
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 01:41:16 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 01:37:27 PM
This argument is going in circles
guys Afro doesn?t accept Billboard articles which cite Soundscan as a source
as proof of sales numbers because he doesn?t want to
and RIAA to a certain extent does track sales because
digital downloads and streams can not be shipped
and they have awarded plaques to albums based purely on downloads
Hey bro what do they use to track streams?
IDK software? What does Soundscan use?
https://twitter.com/AnalCigars/status/1055331804129853440
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 01:29:47 PM
I made it very clear
That you have no idea what you're talking about.
Requesting sales from RIAA when they don't post sales
Asking for Soundscan links when everyone knows they don't post that information publicly
And then there are posts of you all up and down Bsource talking about Nicki's single and album SALES citing BILLBOARD as the source which completely contradicts all your "third party sources" posts and debunks this random theory that you can only verify sales info using RIAA or Soundscan links directly. (http://i41.tinypic.com/t0j5hc.jpg)
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 01:45:43 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 01:37:27 PM
This argument is going in circles
guys Afro doesn?t accept Billboard articles which cite Soundscan as a source
as proof of sales numbers because he doesn?t want to
and RIAA to a certain extent does track sales because
digital downloads and streams can not be shipped
and they have awarded plaques to albums based purely on downloads
:omf:
It's that simple.
If they do not have what I deem to be acceptable in this conversation, that's fine.
That article written years ago by another website is not acceptable proof to me today - here and now.
That may not be the same for some. And that's OK.
It's simply a matter of preference.
I just asked for a couple links :stressed:
bro come on though. this ?another website? mess is nonsense
Billboard is 100% factual with their reports from Soundscan
There?s never been a discussion that Billboard posted incorrect numbers
Come on man
If the article were at least recent MAYBE I'd take take into consideration. MAYBE.
But it is:
a) not recent (years old)
and
b) not directly from RIAA or Soundscan.
Even if the article were right, how do we know that stands true in 2018? We're going off of very outdated information in a discussion regarding currently active artists - one of whom have just snagged eligibility for another platinum certification.
I'm sorry - it is inadmissible in my court.
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um it?s about a total of album sales
the only way the numbers would be different is that they are very slightly higher now and I?m sure if prompted Billboard would report the updated numbers now.
It?s not like the number could decrease in 2018
Come on son
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 02:00:15 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 01:29:47 PM
I made it very clear
That you have no idea what you're talking about.
Requesting sales from RIAA when they don't post sales
Asking for Soundscan links when everyone knows they don't post that information publicly
And then there are posts of you all up and down Bsource talking about Nicki's single and album SALES citing BILLBOARD as the source which completely contradicts all your "third party sources" posts and debunks this random theory that you can only verify sales info using RIAA or Soundscan links directly.
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Y'all aint gon STOP lashing huh :plzstop:
Even though things are more digital it still doesn't matter an album or single can still be certified without achieving the gold, platinum, or diamond thresholds.
Ex Nicki Minaj "Queen" 700,000+ sales(sps)
Certified platinum
Like everyone has been saying
Soundscan tracks every sale/stream
RIAA doesn't not do the same hence Queen being over certified
If you want a lank go to @chartdata on Twitter then their website and read their FAQ their numbers are from soundscan.
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I just told you
And it doesn't matter you're just debating yourself at this point lolz
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:33:01 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
Why do you keep referring to Soundscan only , as if I didn't give more than one option? lol
When RIAA starts tallying or tracking sales be sure to let us know hun.
QuoteOriginally conceived to honor artists and track sound recording sales,
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/
"sound recording sales"
Could literally be anything. We're talking about album and single sales.
Nobody knows WHO RIAA tracks their sales from or HOW. They don't even use Soundscan, the website you've been requesting info from for over 30 pages now.
You're literally making no sense
if ya'll don't shut up, SHIT!
QuoteClub sales and club free goods may be included towards certification. Product shipped to retail, mail order, record clubs, TV marketing and other ancillary markets are combined toward certified sales. All shipments to these accounts must be verified by the label.
RIAA considers mail orders and shipments stacked up in the back of Walmart as "sales"
Like ffggffffffffffffffg (http://i41.tinypic.com/t0j5hc.jpg)
Quote from: november on October 25, 2018, 08:55:15 AM
Hey can somebody show me where I can find album sales at on RIAAS website
Kinda wonderin this myself
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this is the best thread on this board in a while.. it's just perfect..no shade
i'm bout to read it again
Yea i haven't seen a dragging this thorough from the entire board in a while
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:45:56 AM
That AMA's thread was clearly made as a joke and to tease.
Do you really think I cared about its accuracy? lol
Afro sis... :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:46:38 AM
yes because you posted it
what about the Toni one? and this one
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on March 29, 2018, 12:40:03 AM
Not it gnawing on Rock's skull
For the first time in history, hip-hop has surpassed rock to become the most popular music genre, according to Nielsen
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5a4e5b3ec32ae68b008b45b4-1334-1000.jpg)
For the first time ever, hip-hop surpassed rock as the most popular genre in the US in 2017, according to Nielsen's year-end report on the music industry.
Nielsen said the hip-hop/R&B genre ended as the largest genre of the year in terms of "total consumption," which includes album sales and album-equivalent streaming figures.
Seven of the top ten most-consumed albums of the year came from the hip-hop/R&B genre, with Kendrick Lamar's "DAMN." taking the second spot behind Ed Sheeran's "Divide."
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5a4e5cfb3225de1d008b45e8-1136-626.png)
Drake and Lamar came in first and second, respectively, on Nielsen's list of the ten most popular artists of the year, in terms of total consumption. Eight of the top ten artists came from the hip-hop/R&B genre.
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5a4e5d91c32ae63f018b45cc-1136-600.png)
Nielsen noted that the growth in popularity of the hip-hop/R&B genre was "powered by a 72% increase in on-demand audio streaming" in the genre.
Overall, on-demand audio streaming saw a 59% increase in 2017. This figure boosted the total volume of music consumption up by 12.5% compared to 2016, despite year-over-year declines in album and track sales.
http://www.businessinsider.com/hip-hop-passes-rock-most-popular-music-genre-nielsen-2018-1
Sarah and Becky are eating this shit the fuck up.
Im done
fhhdjddghhhh
I'm not seeing any links directly from Soundscan or RIAA here so it must be inaccurate :omf:
dsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
this thread was mess mess mess
the title changes on page one sddddddddddddddddd
but yeah fact remains--Nicki is the 2nd most certified gyal
but Af' sis you were giving a stubborn Ray mess owt w/ the sales/RIAA/shipment mess :plzstop:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 02:42:32 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:46:38 AM
yes because you posted it
what about the Toni one? and this one
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on March 29, 2018, 12:40:03 AM
Not it gnawing on Rock's skull
For the first time in history, hip-hop has surpassed rock to become the most popular music genre, according to Nielsen
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For the first time ever, hip-hop surpassed rock as the most popular genre in the US in 2017, according to Nielsen's year-end report on the music industry.
Nielsen said the hip-hop/R&B genre ended as the largest genre of the year in terms of "total consumption," which includes album sales and album-equivalent streaming figures.
Seven of the top ten most-consumed albums of the year came from the hip-hop/R&B genre, with Kendrick Lamar's "DAMN." taking the second spot behind Ed Sheeran's "Divide."
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Drake and Lamar came in first and second, respectively, on Nielsen's list of the ten most popular artists of the year, in terms of total consumption. Eight of the top ten artists came from the hip-hop/R&B genre.
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Nielsen noted that the growth in popularity of the hip-hop/R&B genre was "powered by a 72% increase in on-demand audio streaming" in the genre.
Overall, on-demand audio streaming saw a 59% increase in 2017. This figure boosted the total volume of music consumption up by 12.5% compared to 2016, despite year-over-year declines in album and track sales.
http://www.businessinsider.com/hip-hop-passes-rock-most-popular-music-genre-nielsen-2018-1
Sarah and Becky are eating this shit the fuck up.
Im done
fhhdjddghhhh
I'm not seeing any links directly from Soundscan or RIAA here so it must be inaccurate
:omf:
See how he has an excuse for everything? :dead:
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 25, 2018, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:45:56 AM
That AMA's thread was clearly made as a joke and to tease.
Do you really think I cared about its accuracy? lol
Afro sis... :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:48:17 AM
And if someone were to challenge me to verify I wouldn't tell them, "Variety said so it's FAX! Period!"
So unless you see me somewhere in the thread saying that, I don't get your point.
You posted it, so obviously you believe it :dead: :dead:
I also made a post saying Pon has an STD.
With your logic I'd assume I believe that too.
Did you post a link/source to Pon's STD? No.
But you posted a link/source to everything else you posted? No, then proceeded to celebrate it :dead: :kii:
:kii:
If he didn't care about the accuracy why post it at all?
Links and all, and highlight and BOLD the figures in the article :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
doesn't that go against his "i wont post it unless there's a source" mess
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 25, 2018, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 10:45:56 AM
That AMA's thread was clearly made as a joke and to tease.
Do you really think I cared about its accuracy? lol
Afro sis... :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
This embarrassing ass thread :plzstop:
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 01:45:43 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 01:37:27 PM
This argument is going in circles
guys Afro doesn?t accept Billboard articles which cite Soundscan as a source
as proof of sales numbers because he doesn?t want to
and RIAA to a certain extent does track sales because
digital downloads and streams can not be shipped
and they have awarded plaques to albums based purely on downloads
:omf:
It's that simple.
If they do not have what I deem to be acceptable in this conversation, that's fine.
That article written years ago by another website is not acceptable proof to me today - here and now.
That may not be the same for some. And that's OK.
It's simply a matter of preference.
I just asked for a couple links :stressed:
bro come on though. this ?another website? mess is nonsense
Billboard is 100% factual with their reports from Soundscan
There?s never been a discussion that Billboard posted incorrect numbers
Come on man
Not Ray too ffnhjjjjfhhhhhhfffffffffffffffffffff
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 24, 2018, 09:25:40 AM
Quote from: Zanny on October 24, 2018, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Nicki is the 2nd most certified female rapper in history.
Missy ain't touchin ha, Shim ain't touchin ha
Didn't ya'll say Missy sold more?
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she did :wub:
And we didn't say it
They did LOLZ
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6770280/ask-billboard-missy-elliotts-career-album-sales
:kii:
fag the nerve
not VIBE
where's the soundscan link
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on October 17, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
Hit em wit deez DIGITS! lolz
Fuck opinions, let's get to the numbers now.
QuoteConfessions. Spawning two Number One hits and selling over a million units in its first week, it ended up being the best-selling R&B album of all time.
https://www.vibe.com/2014/03/10-albums-usher-confessions-birthed-influences//
:scrumptious:
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
This thread is so satisfying
:welllol:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 24, 2018, 09:49:48 AM
Guys ... :stressed: ??
C'mon, let me HAVE it
You can't bring a butterknife to a damn shootout lolz
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:kii:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
fag the nerve
not VIBE
where's the soundscan link
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on October 17, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
Hit em wit deez DIGITS! lolz
Fuck opinions, let's get to the numbers now.
QuoteConfessions. Spawning two Number One hits and selling over a million units in its first week, it ended up being the best-selling R&B album of all time.
https://www.vibe.com/2014/03/10-albums-usher-confessions-birthed-influences//
:scrumptious:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 11:00:49 AM
Wikipedia always has a library of links and sources if you look for them just because it's wiki doesn't mean it's less valid.
Wikipedia was just his source for Pink Friday's sales a little over a week ago: Quote from: Two Spirit on October 14, 2018, 10:40:26 AM
More on Pink Friday:
QuoteThis marked the second-highest sales week for a female hip hop recording artist, behind Lauryn Hill's The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill in 1998.
Looks like when it comes to pushing actual units, only one post-Lauryn kwee is on the plane. lolz
We love a top-selling beauty Kwee.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BojqvbfBN5k/?hl=en&taken-by=nickiminaj
Quote
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Friday
:kii:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 02:58:09 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
fag the nerve
not VIBE
where's the soundscan link
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on October 17, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
Hit em wit deez DIGITS! lolz
Fuck opinions, let's get to the numbers now.
QuoteConfessions. Spawning two Number One hits and selling over a million units in its first week, it ended up being the best-selling R&B album of all time.
https://www.vibe.com/2014/03/10-albums-usher-confessions-birthed-influences//
:scrumptious:
So ready and post this but where's the soundscan link?
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 03:00:35 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 11:00:49 AM
Wikipedia always has a library of links and sources if you look for them just because it's wiki doesn't mean it's less valid.
Wikipedia was just his source for Pink Friday's sales a little over a week ago:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 14, 2018, 10:40:26 AM
More on Pink Friday:
QuoteThis marked the second-highest sales week for a female hip hop recording artist, behind Lauryn Hill's The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill in 1998.
Looks like when it comes to pushing actual units, only one post-Lauryn kwee is on the plane. lolz
We love a top-selling beauty Kwee.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BojqvbfBN5k/?hl=en&taken-by=nickiminaj
Quote
(http://i64.tinypic.com/6f7fbb.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Friday
:kii:
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
I was right, he picks and chooses when Soundscan and RIAA are relevant, just like he was trying to downplay streams vs pure sales when Cardi booked Nicki's first week, but turned around and stood behind Nicki's streams :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:01:11 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 03:00:35 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 11:00:49 AM
Wikipedia always has a library of links and sources if you look for them just because it's wiki doesn't mean it's less valid.
Wikipedia was just his source for Pink Friday's sales a little over a week ago:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 14, 2018, 10:40:26 AM
More on Pink Friday:
QuoteThis marked the second-highest sales week for a female hip hop recording artist, behind Lauryn Hill's The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill in 1998.
Looks like when it comes to pushing actual units, only one post-Lauryn kwee is on the plane. lolz
We love a top-selling beauty Kwee.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BojqvbfBN5k/?hl=en&taken-by=nickiminaj
Quote
(http://i64.tinypic.com/6f7fbb.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Friday
:kii:
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
So that means everything you have ever posted to do with sales has now become invalidated by your own logic because it doesn't come straight from SoundScan with a public link. :kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:03:46 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:02:25 PM
I was right, he picks and chooses
I agree - it is my decision regarding what I find reliable and what I do not.
The Billboard article from 4-5 years ago was not sufficient evidence for me in this conversation.
Who do you think you are
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:02:25 PM
I was right, he picks and chooses when Soundscan and RIAA are relevant, just like he was trying to downplay streams vs pure sales when Cardi booked Nicki's first week, but turned around and stood behind Nicki's streams :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
He hates being wrong and that's why he always gets caught in these situations. He really ain't built for this place :dead:
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 24, 2018, 10:05:20 AM
Quote from: 'ology on October 24, 2018, 09:55:48 AM
So the bottom line and synopsis of this thread Nicki is the SECOND most certified (which is not exact and certs can be brought after certain thresholds and other criteria) female rapper in the us.
Missy is the BEST selling female rapper in the US flat out with no stipulations or other criteria.
:butwait!:
basically lmao
Glad we cleared this up pal lolz
:kii:
But a Billboard article is right any other time right?
That Usher post was something from Vibe and stood by it then :dead:
No soundscan, not RIAA not even a Billboard link included :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:03:46 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:02:25 PM
I was right, he picks and chooses
I agree - it is my decision regarding what I find reliable and what I do not.
Going by that logic I don't find RIAA reliable.
Ok?
That means anyone can pick and choose what's reliable, you've been citing Billboard for years for your faves now all of a sudden their inaccurate because it doesn't favor Nicki in THIS particular debate?
grow up :kii:
RIAA including mail orders and product shipped to retail stores as sales towards album and single certifications is not sufficient evidence for me in this conversation.
:kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:05:48 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:03:57 PM
So that means everything you have ever posted to do with sales has now become invalidated by your own logic because it doesn't come straight from SoundScan with a public link. :kii:
It means that it would be up to you as the reader to either:
a) Accept the information posted and simply carry on with your day
or
b) Question/challenge it - at which point I'd have to decide if I'm willing to verify it to your satisfaction.
We're at point B in this conversation.
Do you have the link?
Im just typing to type and don't have any rebuttal so I'm going around in circles in hopes you'll get lost with me and forget what the point was
Lmao got ya!
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:09:39 PM
I already said there's really not much for me to debate
then why you still here
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
fag the nerve
not VIBE
where's the soundscan link
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on October 17, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
Hit em wit deez DIGITS! lolz
Fuck opinions, let's get to the numbers now.
QuoteConfessions. Spawning two Number One hits and selling over a million units in its first week, it ended up being the best-selling R&B album of all time.
https://www.vibe.com/2014/03/10-albums-usher-confessions-birthed-influences//
:scrumptious:
dfbfdbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Was that a "joke" too? :plzstop:
I underestimated how intelligent some of you are .. Y'all.are really knowledgeable about sales and how they work .. Its so many receipts in this thread its not even funny
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 25, 2018, 03:12:42 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
fag the nerve
not VIBE
where's the soundscan link
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on October 17, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
Hit em wit deez DIGITS! lolz
Fuck opinions, let's get to the numbers now.
QuoteConfessions. Spawning two Number One hits and selling over a million units in its first week, it ended up being the best-selling R&B album of all time.
https://www.vibe.com/2014/03/10-albums-usher-confessions-birthed-influences//
:scrumptious:
dfbfdbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Was that a "joke" too? :plzstop:
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Afro why are you not replying to the Usher thing?
Although it?s true and King did sell 10 million
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Afro why are you not replying to the Usher thing?
Although it?s true and King did sell 10 million
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
(https://s19.postimg.cc/w5kfli7qb/GUPwuy_J_-_Imgur.gif)
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Afro why are you not replying to the Usher thing?
Although it?s true and King did sell 10 million
Messy self :dead:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:08:12 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:03:46 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:02:25 PM
I was right, he picks and chooses
I agree - it is my decision regarding what I find reliable and what I do not.
The Billboard article from 4-5 years ago was not sufficient evidence for me in this conversation.
Who do you think you are
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
I'm just me
bnnnnmmskksksms
liddle g to the h
Liddle e to the t
Liddle t to the o
I?m jus ghettoooo.......I?m jus me
yh why did you post that so eargley to throw that in vonc face in the other thread
i don't see no soundscan, RIAA or Billboard links in that article
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Afro why are you not replying to the Usher thing?
Although it?s true and King did sell 10 million
I posted a report on his numbers.
You sure did and included to VIBE link to prove it's authenticity :dead:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 25, 2018, 03:12:42 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
fag the nerve
not VIBE
where's the soundscan link
QuoteQuote from: Two Spirit on October 17, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
Hit em wit deez DIGITS! lolz
Fuck opinions, let's get to the numbers now.
QuoteConfessions. Spawning two Number One hits and selling over a million units in its first week, it ended up being the best-selling R&B album of all time.
https://www.vibe.com/2014/03/10-albums-usher-confessions-birthed-influences//
:scrumptious:
dfbfdbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Was that a "joke" too? :plzstop:
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
[youtube autoplay=1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s0_6mOxVYQ[/youtube]
So to summerise
Afro got 50 cents plaques wrong, three times
Missy sold more than Nicki
Afro doesn't know the difference between Soundscan & RIAA
Afro chooses when Billboard reports are accurate
Missing anything else?
Let me know
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Basically he keeps saying to post links so he can dismiss them because "it is his decision regarding what he finds reliable" fggg
His posts are so inconsistent and these contradictory stances are a mess.
:kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Afro why are you not replying to the Usher thing?
Although it?s true and King did sell 10 million
I posted a report on his numbers.
Did I use it as be-all and say-all evidence of some sort?
No, me throwing in his numbers AFTER we had the larger conversation regarding his reputation as being influential was simply a cherry on top.
I never said that VIBE was the be-all and say-all of sales reporting.
Then what was your point in saying
"Fuck opinions. Let's get into numbers now" when you posted the link?
Clearly you thought that receipt was enough to shut everyone down, or else you would've never worded it that way.
Like, c'mon Af. You took the time to go digging for the article and then ran back here to post it. It's evident that you thought it was a GOTCHA of some sort.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Afro why are you not replying to the Usher thing?
Although it?s true and King did sell 10 million
I posted a report on his numbers.
Did I use it as be-all and say-all evidence of some sort?
No, me throwing in his numbers AFTER we had the larger conversation regarding his reputation as being influential was simply a cherry on top.
I never said that VIBE was the be-all and say-all of sales reporting.
it was just kinda implied that you at least believe that post to be true
and I hope you would, not because it came from Vibe but because they cite Soundscan as their source
But now it sounds like you just wanted to post any number you could find in that instance?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:20:27 PM
So I don't get how pulling up random articles I've posted in the past is somehow saying that I've endorsed every one of them as the authority in each respective category.
If I feel I am quoting an authority on a topic, I mention that. Like I mentioned the Center for Disease Control when Jayden and I had our discussions regarding STD's.
If you can find me mentioning a non-authority source as an authority on a specific topic, then your point is proven.
It doesn't matter if it's the authority or not. Clearly you thought the source was valid enough to post it here. Or was that just for shits & giggles?
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Afro why are you not replying to the Usher thing?
Although it?s true and King did sell 10 million
I posted a report on his numbers.
Did I use it as be-all and say-all evidence of some sort?
No, me throwing in his numbers AFTER we had the larger conversation regarding his reputation as being influential was simply a cherry on top.
I never said that VIBE was the be-all and say-all of sales reporting.
it was just kinda implied that you at least believe that post to be true
and I hope you would, not because it came from Vibe but because they cite Soundscan as their source
But now it sounds like you just wanted to post any number you could find in that instance?
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
The way y'all are dissecting and discrediting all the mess :kii:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:29:08 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 08:37:38 AM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:59:24 AM
Can somebody explain why he wants SALES info from riaa when they do CERTIFICATIONS only?
but the certs are drawn up from sales
Of shipments :dead:
You mean to tell me Ariana Grande's label shipped a million copies of No Tears Left to Cry? That's how she got the plat plaque?
Who did they ship those physical copies to? :uhh:
Anyone can step up and attempt to answer that actually
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Afro why are you not replying to the Usher thing?
Although it?s true and King did sell 10 million
I posted a report on his numbers.
Did I use it as be-all and say-all evidence of some sort?
No, me throwing in his numbers AFTER we had the larger conversation regarding his reputation as being influential was simply a cherry on top.
I never said that VIBE was the be-all and say-all of sales reporting.
it was just kinda implied that you at least believe that post to be true
and I hope you would, not because it came from Vibe but because they cite Soundscan as their source
But now it sounds like you just wanted to post any number you could find in that instance?
dsfdfdsfdsfdsfdsvfs
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:32:45 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Afro why are you not replying to the Usher thing?
Although it?s true and King did sell 10 million
I posted a report on his numbers.
Did I use it as be-all and say-all evidence of some sort?
No, me throwing in his numbers AFTER we had the larger conversation regarding his reputation as being influential was simply a cherry on top.
I never said that VIBE was the be-all and say-all of sales reporting.
it was just kinda implied that you at least believe that post to be true
and I hope you would, not because it came from Vibe but because they cite Soundscan as their source
But now it sounds like you just wanted to post any number you could find in that instance?
You're right. I literally just grabbed the article and posted it.
It was a mere cherry on top in that instance - the discussion we were having was regarding his reputation as a game changer or influencer.
Of COURSE someone could have challenged an article from VIBE if they wanted to. And I definitely wouldn't have said, "Umm excuse you, Vibe is the authority on album sales. They said it, so it's true."
The writer of that article could have been wrong. It's up to the reader to challenge it. And if someone challenged it, it would have been MY obligation to prove what I posted.
I could get with this if we were discussing instances where the writers are just typing any numbers they want, but we?re talking about people citing the direct source in their articles
What is this, just playing devil?s advocate? Like although the articles are not lying and the source they get their numbers from is not refuting anything, you have to see it from that source because there is the minimal chance it could still be wrong?
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 25, 2018, 03:31:01 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:20:27 PM
So I don't get how pulling up random articles I've posted in the past is somehow saying that I've endorsed every one of them as the authority in each respective category.
If I feel I am quoting an authority on a topic, I mention that. Like I mentioned the Center for Disease Control when Jayden and I had our discussions regarding STD's.
If you can find me mentioning a non-authority source as an authority on a specific topic, then your point is proven.
It doesn't matter if it's the authority or not. Clearly you thought the source was valid enough to post it here. Or was that just for shits & giggles?
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
the flip flop
oh didn't really believe it!
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 25, 2018, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on October 25, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Afro why are you not replying to the Usher thing?
Although it?s true and King did sell 10 million
I posted a report on his numbers.
Did I use it as be-all and say-all evidence of some sort?
No, me throwing in his numbers AFTER we had the larger conversation regarding his reputation as being influential was simply a cherry on top.
I never said that VIBE was the be-all and say-all of sales reporting.
Then what was your point in saying "Fuck opinions. Let's get into numbers now" when you posted the link?
Clearly you thought that receipt was enough to shut everyone down, or else you would've never worded it that way.
Like, c'mon Af. You took the time to go digging for the article and then ran back here to post it. It's evident that you thought it was a GOTCHA of some sort.
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
He ran to google for that receipt to post and throw it in voncs face like BAM!
now he's denying he believed in it
wow :dead:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:45:57 PM
I was moving to BEGIN a conversation about his sales
then you posted an article from vibe.
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:29:08 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 08:37:38 AM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:59:24 AM
Can somebody explain why he wants SALES info from riaa when they do CERTIFICATIONS only?
but the certs are drawn up from sales
Of shipments :dead:
You mean to tell me Ariana Grande's label shipped a million copies of No Tears Left to Cry? That's how she got the plat plaque?
Who did they ship those physical copies to? :uhh:
Billboard has posted proof to verify the sales of what she was certified for.
You tried though
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=59627.msg1685196#msg1685196
because in THIS thread instead of discrediting Billboards accuracy, you were trying to discredit the dates
to make it seem the tea was outdated, not inaccurate :dead:
This just proves you'll work ANY angle :kii: :kii:
& the gurs were using THIS
https://celebmix.com/nicki-minaj-officially-crowned-best-selling-female-rapper-time/
To prove Nicki outsold Missy
Does anyone see a Billboard or Soundscan link in there?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:51:43 PM
I honestly didn't even know his album was the top selling R&B album of all time (if it really is) - so I wasn't looking for proof of that.
I literally just went on Google looking for anything related to his sales and found that VIBE article. And threw it out there.
Along with a "Let's talk about numbers" statement to get the ball rolling into a sales conversation.
Now, if someone were to say, "Prove it Afro". Then my response certainly wouldn't have been "VIBE said so! Now what else is up? :plea: "
Let's be reasonable here.
/
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 03:48:41 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:29:08 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 08:37:38 AM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 01:59:24 AM
Can somebody explain why he wants SALES info from riaa when they do CERTIFICATIONS only?
but the certs are drawn up from sales
Of shipments :dead:
You mean to tell me Ariana Grande's label shipped a million copies of No Tears Left to Cry? That's how she got the plat plaque?
Who did they ship those physical copies to? :uhh:
Billboard has posted proof to verify the sales of what she was certified for.
You tried though
thanks for the info on Billboard
Care to answer the question I actually asked? :ATLcameo:
Quote from: Zanny on October 25, 2018, 03:54:21 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:51:43 PM
I honestly didn't even know his album was the top selling R&B album of all time (if it really is) - so I wasn't looking for proof of that.
I literally just went on Google looking for anything related to his sales and found that VIBE article. And threw it out there.
Along with a "Let's talk about numbers" statement to get the ball rolling into a sales conversation.
Now, if someone were to say, "Prove it Afro". Then my response certainly wouldn't have been "VIBE said so! Now what else is up? :plea: "
Let's be reasonable here.
/
jkuefefargargragagr
Because I typed up Usher sales confessions and THIS is the first link that popped up
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/482065/ushers-confessions-album-hits-10-million-in-us-sales
and I'll extend the question
If certifications are based solely off shipments, where did Ciara's label ship I Bet for it to get its accompanying platinum plaque?
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:49:56 PM
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=59627.msg1685196#msg1685196
because in THIS thread instead of discrediting Billboards accuracy, you were trying to discredit the dates
to make it seem the tea was outdated, not inaccurate :dead:
This just proves you'll work ANY angle :kii: :kii:
The point is Ariana actually SOLD a million of something.
Nobody knows how RIAA whipped up her certification. If someone knew you wouldn't be asking a question.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 03:53:42 PM
You guys know very well if someone challenged it I'd dig right into a direct source as soon as I could.
Not say that VIBE is an authority on album sales. C'mon.
All we know is that when you get proven wrong you introduce a new variable to keep the conversation going. :omf:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 03:59:59 PM
The point is Ariana actually SOLD a million of something.
Nobody knows how RIAA whipped up her certification.
vcvvvvbvvbbbcbbvvcvbbvvvvc
My dear boy
That doesn't make any sense :uhh: :plzstop: she sold a million copies of her single but it has nothing to do with her platinum certification, which denotes a million copies sold?
Imma stop asking you the questions
Dang Queen hasn't hit a milli WW yet
WW sales*: @NICKIMINAJ, Queen 29,000 (804,000 total).
This wild AF
:kii:
It's always a kii to see Af swat down a million bugs at once :blessed:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:58:15 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 03:49:56 PM
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=59627.msg1685196#msg1685196
because in THIS thread instead of discrediting Billboards accuracy, you were trying to discredit the dates
to make it seem the tea was outdated, not inaccurate :dead:
This just proves you'll work ANY angle :kii: :kii:
It's Af's court in this bitch
Quote from: 'ology on October 25, 2018, 04:09:17 PM
Dang Queen hasn't hit a milli WW yet
WW sales*: @NICKIMINAJ, Queen 29,000 (804,000 total).
This wild AF
/
Wtf is taking place
These gorls know how to duck and dodge a question chile aint nothin
RIAA literally certifies albums and singles on a bunch of shit that have nothing to do with sales of the album or single QuoteClub sales and club free goods may be included towards certification. Product shipped to retail, mail order, record clubs, TV marketing and other ancillary markets are combined toward certified sales. All shipments to these accounts must be verified by the label.
What I care about is that Billboard (who gets their numbers directly from Soundscan) confirmed that "No Tears Left To Cry" did actually sell a million copies whether it was through digital downloads or some other method.
You don't know what all RIAA included in that certification nor do you know the percentages of the actual sales from the single that were included. RIAA doesn't even consult Nielsen for their "sales". Stop asking dumb questions Talisa. :dead:
Quote from: 'ology on October 25, 2018, 04:09:17 PM
Dang Queen hasn't hit a milli WW yet
WW sales*: @NICKIMINAJ, Queen 29,000 (804,000 total).
This wild AF
Not 800K
Isn't 700K from the US? :omf:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 04:16:58 PM
RIAA literally certifies albums and singles on a bunch of shit that have nothing to do with sales of the album or single
QuoteClub sales and club free goods may be included towards certification. Product shipped to retail, mail order, record clubs, TV marketing and other ancillary markets are combined toward certified sales. All shipments to these accounts must be verified by the label.
What I care about is that Billboard (who gets their numbers directly from Soundscan) confirmed that "No Tears Left To Cry" did actually sell a million copies whether it was through digital downloads or some other method.
You don't know what all RIAA included in that certification nor do you know the percentages of the actual sales from the single that were included. RIAA doesn't even consult Nielsen for their "sales". Stop asking dumb questions Talisa.
:dead:
so basically sales and certs are related, disproving Mya's earlier statement
Thanks
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 04:13:42 PM
Quote from: 'ology on October 25, 2018, 04:09:17 PM
Dang Queen hasn't hit a milli WW yet
WW sales*: @NICKIMINAJ, Queen 29,000 (804,000 total).
This wild AF
/
omg
ur pissed
I'm crying
Not 10 additional pages while I was cleaning up
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 04:24:20 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 04:16:58 PM
RIAA literally certifies albums and singles on a bunch of shit that have nothing to do with sales of the album or single
QuoteClub sales and club free goods may be included towards certification. Product shipped to retail, mail order, record clubs, TV marketing and other ancillary markets are combined toward certified sales. All shipments to these accounts must be verified by the label.
What I care about is that Billboard (who gets their numbers directly from Soundscan) confirmed that "No Tears Left To Cry" did actually sell a million copies whether it was through digital downloads or some other method.
You don't know what all RIAA included in that certification nor do you know the percentages of the actual sales from the single that were included. RIAA doesn't even consult Nielsen for their "sales". Stop asking dumb questions Talisa.
:dead:
so basically
RIAA counts sales of girl scouts cookies toward certifications.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 04:26:46 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 04:24:20 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 04:16:58 PM
RIAA literally certifies albums and singles on a bunch of shit that have nothing to do with sales of the album or single
QuoteClub sales and club free goods may be included towards certification. Product shipped to retail, mail order, record clubs, TV marketing and other ancillary markets are combined toward certified sales. All shipments to these accounts must be verified by the label.
What I care about is that Billboard (who gets their numbers directly from Soundscan) confirmed that "No Tears Left To Cry" did actually sell a million copies whether it was through digital downloads or some other method.
You don't know what all RIAA included in that certification nor do you know the percentages of the actual sales from the single that were included. RIAA doesn't even consult Nielsen for their "sales". Stop asking dumb questions Talisa.
:dead:
so basically sales and certs are related, disproving Mya's earlier statement
Thanks
:omf:
The disagreement Laz and I had was super basic.
I simply said RIAA would fall under the "sales" category - as in, when you have discussions about sales, or if something's sales related in the music industry, RIAA is an entity that is sure to be mentioned.
I did not go into their procedures, practices, measurements, zodiac signs, and all this other mess.
It's a sales oriented company.
It's definitely a sales oriented company
We are still compiling RIAA year-end revenue numbers for 2013, but looking back at 2012 is illustrative of the importance streaming has already gained for the music industry. A decade ago, the industry earned virtually all its revenue from physical sales. But by 2012, the industry earned nearly 60% of its revenues from digital formats, with about 15% from streaming music, which includes subscription services, on demand streaming services, and Internet and satellite radio (US Music Industry Revenues 2012, below).https://www.riaa.com/reading-nielsens-year-end-sales-stats/
:dead:
:plzstop:
:kii:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 04:19:08 PM
Quote from: 'ology on October 25, 2018, 04:09:17 PM
Dang Queen hasn't hit a milli WW yet
WW sales*: @NICKIMINAJ, Queen 29,000 (804,000 total).
This wild AF
Not 800K
Isn't 700K from the US?
:omf:
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
First Night is going tf AWF rn
So on page 45 anything from Billboard more than a year old isn't relevant
But on page 46 Talisa posts a link from RIAA citing something Billboard posted back in 2012 and it makes sense?
Now they're a "sales oriented" company?
:shannonsmissing:
Since they're sales oriented go and find me their sales numbers for Lemonade.
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 04:53:34 PM
Since they're sales oriented go and find me their sales numbers for Lemonade.
leave Bey out of your mess fag
Quote from: Baph McDavid. on October 25, 2018, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 04:53:34 PM
Since they're sales oriented go and find me their sales numbers for Lemonade.
leave Bey out of your mess fag
fffdkdkdk dddd
NOPE faggot
I'm asking you do to find something related to what you claimed RIAA does.
Billboard is sales focused. I can go find Lemonade's numbers from them
Since you say RIAA is sales why don't you just pull up a link for Lemonade's numbers then. It should be easy.
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 04:53:34 PM
Since they're sales oriented go and find me their sales numbers for Lemonade.
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 04:53:04 PM
Their focus and mission is securing financial vitality for labels. You don't secure financial vitality for a business by measuring sprinkles and rainbows. You look to sales.
I thought their focus was certifying singles and albums?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 04:59:19 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 04:58:24 PM
I'm asking you do to find something related to what you claimed RIAA does.
I provided their mission statement.
Anything else?
Which has what to do with Nicki's certifications?
If RIAA is so sales focused and orientated go find Pink Friday's sales.
Anyone want some chocolate chip cookies? Or head?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 05:05:13 PM
I'm not going to find anything.
Because you can't find that information on RIAA's website
So they track sales nobody can find?
(https://uploadir.com/u/1288j66a)
Quote from: tontonton on October 25, 2018, 05:05:15 PM
Anyone want some chocolate chip cookies? Or head?
Do you by any chance have any ecstasy pills ?
Its been a few months
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:06:45 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 05:05:13 PM
I'm not going to find anything.
Because you can't find that information on RIAA's website
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
I can't believe this is still going on :dead:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 05:11:30 PM
Whether someone discovers specific sales on their website was not Laz and I's disagreement.
We disagreed at the most basic level which was : would they fall under a "sales" category or not.
Their website says that they would. As per their company website, they track sales.
Anything else?
But you requested somebody post Missy Elliot's sales using an RIAA link.
What sales information are we able to find on RIAA since they're so sales focused and oriented?
Quote from: Lazarus on October 25, 2018, 05:17:59 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 05:11:49 PM
I can't believe this is still going on :dead:
See what u started my? This boy is coming undone and you're the reason why
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 05:20:02 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:17:03 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 05:11:30 PM
Whether someone discovers specific sales on their website was not Laz and I's disagreement.
We disagreed at the most basic level which was : would they fall under a "sales" category or not.
Their website says that they would. As per their company website, they track sales.
Anything else?
But you requested somebody post Missy Elliot's sales using an RIAA link.
What sales information are we able to find on RIAA since they're so sales focused and oriented?
I'm not entertaining a conversation about what sales you can find on their site when that wasn't the disagreement Laz & I had.
That's a detail I'll leave you to find out yourself.
Anything else?
But Laz was correct
You won't find certifications on Soundscan
You won't find sales on RIAA
And yet you insisted on sales info about Missy Elliot from RIAA's website anyway.
Now since you're so sure RIAA is a heavily sales oriented/focused company...why can't you find any sales there?
So you can't find any sales figures from RIAA after claiming that they're sales focused and sales oriented?
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
So you can't find any sales figures from RIAA after claiming that they're sales focused and sales oriented?
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
So you can't find any sales figures from RIAA after claiming that they're sales focused and sales oriented?
Let's all take a gander at this here I Bet platinum plaque
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
What's that say?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
platinum SALES.
There shouldn't be much to discuss at this point :kii:
:kii:
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
So you can't find any sales figures from RIAA after claiming that they're sales focused and sales oriented?
Let's all take a gander at this here I Bet platinum plaque
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
What's that say?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
platinum SALES.
This is about the DUMBEST rebuttal :plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
So you can't find any sales figures from RIAA after claiming that they're sales focused and sales oriented?
Let's all take a gander at this here I Bet platinum plaque
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
What's that say?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
platinum SALES.
This is about the DUMBEST rebuttal :plzstop:
That literally has nothing to do with nothing
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:51:18 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
So you can't find any sales figures from RIAA after claiming that they're sales focused and sales oriented?
Let's all take a gander at this here I Bet platinum plaque
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
What's that say?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
platinum SALES.
This is about the DUMBEST rebuttal :plzstop:
That literally has nothing to do with nothing
ftargrga
sis just wanted to show off that I bet plaque again
Well, not everyone has once past 2007 lol
Like Granet
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 05:58:54 PM
Well, not everyone has once past 2007 lol
Like Granet
lmao! True
not everyone has a no.1 album either or can headline a tour
And yeah
A plaque that came directly from RIAA >>> the bullshit y'all been getting dragged about for the last forty pages
And I win again! :blessed:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:26:31 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 05:20:02 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:17:03 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 05:11:30 PM
Whether someone discovers specific sales on their website was not Laz and I's disagreement.
We disagreed at the most basic level which was : would they fall under a "sales" category or not.
Their website says that they would. As per their company website, they track sales.
Anything else?
But you requested somebody post Missy Elliot's sales using an RIAA link.
What sales information are we able to find on RIAA since they're so sales focused and oriented?
I'm not entertaining a conversation about what sales you can find on their site when that wasn't the disagreement Laz & I had.
That's a detail I'll leave you to find out yourself.
Anything else?
But Laz was correct
You won't find certifications on Soundscan
You won't find sales on RIAA
And yet you insisted on sales info about Missy Elliot from RIAA's website anyway.
Now since you're so sure RIAA is a heavily sales oriented/focused company...why can't you find any sales there?
(https://j.gifs.com/2RzpvW.gif)
or can triple-digits first week lol
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
So you can't find any sales figures from RIAA after claiming that they're sales focused and sales oriented?
Let's all take a gander at this here I Bet platinum plaque
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
What's that say?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
platinum SALES.
This is about the DUMBEST rebuttal :plzstop:
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 06:00:26 PM
or can triple-digits first week lol
wow! Did anything go gold or plat that era?
im not doing a ci vs jans with you sis
focus on ci and her 3 flop singles
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
So you can't find any sales figures from RIAA after claiming that they're sales focused and sales oriented?
nope and he wont be able to
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
im not doing a ci vs jans with you sis
well, tranet already lost that battle in 2004 when my sis Les Moonpie christened Ci as the new IT black dancer girl. So no need :stressed:
The sales figures were on I Bwt's platinum plaque, issued by RIAA
r the gorls slow...
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 06:06:21 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
im not doing a ci vs jans with you sis
Les Moonpie christened Ci as the new IT black dancer girl.
which lasted 3 years?
some blessing
(https://uploadir.com/u/ygb9vmfa)
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 05:57:45 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:51:18 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
So you can't find any sales figures from RIAA after claiming that they're sales focused and sales oriented?
Let's all take a gander at this here I Bet platinum plaque
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
What's that say?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
platinum SALES.
This is about the DUMBEST rebuttal :plzstop:
That literally has nothing to do with nothing
ftargrga
sis just wanted to show off that I bet plaque again
Basically
Can you search the sales of "I Bet" on RIAA's website? No
Can you find a breakdown of how they calculate the sales? No
Can you find a list of retailers that reported the figures to RIAA? No
etc etc
The way the point completely flew over her head :plzstop:
RIAA's platinum plaque >>>>>>>> you faggs and your mess :blessed:
Let's all take a gander at this here I Bet platinum plaque
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
What's that say?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
platinum SALES.
If this ain't a CEIPT, Iono what is :kii:
not them giving sis that plaque shortly after it was announced streams would be included but celebrate and stuff
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 06:11:45 PM
not them giving sis that plaque shortly after it was announced streams would be included but celebrate and stuff
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
if it's so easy, why hasn't tranet been able to get a plaque for ANYTHING since 2007?
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
because we buy albums and get No.1 debuts and buy tickets to her tours
but keep living of that plat single from 2015 though, it'll be her last achievement in music lmao
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
i see it i wan' eth
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
im not doing a ci vs jans with you sis
focus on ci and her 3 flop singles
Jans sold more anyway.
Ciara is pretty much her slave at this point.
Running behind Queen doing tributes & presentations like the lessor she is lolz.
(https://i.gifer.com/GfzL.gif)
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 25, 2018, 06:15:58 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
im not doing a ci vs jans with you sis
focus on ci and her 3 flop singles
Jans sold more anyway.
Ciara is pretty much her slave at this point.
Running behind Queen doing tributes & presentations like the lessor she is lolz.
(https://i.gifer.com/GfzL.gif)
ddadaf everytime Jans get a tribute mess Ci is right behind
have some diginity sis, she's not gonna work with you
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 06:07:08 PM
The sales figures were on I Bwt's platinum plaque, issued by RIAA
r the gorls slow...
Slow down a bit bby sis
(https://i.gifer.com/GfzL.gif)
And RIAA is bigger than their website. You can't randomly happen across sales on their site because they don't do it like that
But it's clear they do calculate sales. Otherwise, the very word wouldn't be etched across the fuckin plaque (that Janet hasn't had in 11 years)
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 06:16:55 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia on October 25, 2018, 06:15:58 PM
Quote from: Naomi's Blackberry on October 25, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
im not doing a ci vs jans with you sis
focus on ci and her 3 flop singles
Jans sold more anyway.
Ciara is pretty much her slave at this point.
Running behind Queen doing tributes & presentations like the lessor she is lolz.
(https://i.gifer.com/GfzL.gif)
ddadaf everytime Jans get a tribute mess Ci is right behind
have some diginity sis, she's not gonna work with you
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
wrggggg
That thing been beggin & tryna ride Queen's coattails for the last decade.
It ain't happening hon. Be glad she let you tag along at Disneyland.
(https://i.gifer.com/GfzL.gif)
Damn who's blood is this all over the place when I stepped in this thread ?
Its a blood bath up in here lol
So I can say Invasion of Privacy sold 2 million copies since the album has a 2X platinum plaque?
And that still has nothing to do with the fact that all you will find on RIAA is certifications, not actual sales of a single/album.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/84c4d201c17b4f7ac36c7c5d24af7a3e/tenor.gif)
I want some chicken strips
This WEIRD old dyke
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9113881/Screenshot_2018-10-25-18-23-22.png)
Not her tryna ride every new girl's coattails conveniently before her new music drops and flops :kii: how'd that work out jans?
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 06:22:52 PM
So I can say Invasion of Privacy sold 2 million copies since the album has a 2X platinum plaque?
And that still has nothing to do with the fact that all you will find on RIAA is certification, not actual sales of a single/album.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/84c4d201c17b4f7ac36c7c5d24af7a3e/tenor.gif)
Here's the point - listen closely. Open those eyes for me.
Laz said RIAA does NOT fall under the category of "sales".
But we have an article he posted with the RIAA and sales in the same sentence.
Questions?
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
And? :dead:
n @ you digging up Queen's lil shout out for this flop ass song.
Jan is so generous
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Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 06:22:52 PM
So I can say Invasion of Privacy sold 2 million copies since the album has a 2X platinum plaque?
well, does it say that on the plaque? I'm stating what's already written in plain English :dead: this should not be hard hun
How's "DOZE" doin btw?
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Talisa just because the plaque was actually based on sales in Ciara's case doesn't mean that's the general rule for every certification given out to every artist.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 06:31:42 PM
Found another VERY interesting thread regarding certifications.
The gorls were going tooth and NAIL for RIAA as verification of SALES/units.
And even knocking Billboard a bit.
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=20444.0
I'm crying. Lemme just. What's really up guys?
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I literally made this thread to prove how inaccurate RIAA certifications were.
I know what the thread title is. I made the thread.
The whole point was to exposed Rihanna for being certified double platinum but Billboard showing she's only sold 500K. :uhh:
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 04:19:08 PM
Quote from: 'ology on October 25, 2018, 04:09:17 PM
Dang Queen hasn't hit a milli WW yet
WW sales*: @NICKIMINAJ, Queen 29,000 (804,000 total).
This wild AF
Not 800K
Isn't 700K from the US?
:omf:
Well over 700K
Lol
Quote from: Young on October 25, 2018, 04:47:36 PM
First Night is going tf AWF rn
Zzznznzbnxnnznz mzzkz
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 06:40:41 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 06:39:04 PM
I know what the thread title is. I made the thread.
Thread as in - its content.
Not the title.
Read the replies. Keep up with what I'm throwing down in dis bitch.
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Lemme know once it HITS you.
LMAOOOO!!!!
OMF that shit was funny!!!
:dead: :dead: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
GET HA!
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 06:40:41 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 06:39:04 PM
I know what the thread title is. I made the thread.
Thread as in - its content.
Not the title.
Read the replies. Keep up with what I'm throwing down in dis bitch.
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Lemme know once it HITS you.
The replies have nothing to do with MY stance which is exactly the same stance I've been sticking with in here.
You're 100% right btw and I completely agree too 'fro lolz
Get dat faggot!
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 06:44:31 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 06:42:52 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 06:40:41 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 06:39:04 PM
I know what the thread title is. I made the thread.
Thread as in - its content.
Not the title.
Read the replies. Keep up with what I'm throwing down in dis bitch.
(http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
Lemme know once it HITS you.
The replies have nothing to do with MY stance which is exactly the same stance I'm I've been sticking with in here.
Well you were chatting about my disagreement with Laz - and him not admitting RIAA is sales associated.
I posted an article he shared which included RIAA as a source of sales information.
Anything else?
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You posted a thread I made with me having the exact same stance on RIAA certifications in there as I do in here now.
Again..the point?
Posting links with the words "RIAA" and "sales" in the same article prove nothing and neither does posting old threads about faulty certifications
Billboard and Soundscan were nowhere to be found in that article.
I know if I jump to page 54 this better not still be about the same damn shit
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Omffff....u kn wh
This is the official holiday mess kickoff thread
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 04:55:16 PM
You're getting into specifics (again)
Like how you're digging through the search option, posting old threads and posts, finding all types of old articles etc to prove a nonexistent point?
RIAA is sales this and sales that..but you can't find a single sales figure on RIAA. (http://i64.tinypic.com/2rhphqr.jpg)
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:22:27 PM
I just felt like contradicting a few posts in here - with their own posts.
That's all.
What else is up
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OMFG yoooooooooo you ENDED ha!!!!!! :dead: :dead: :dead:
Didn't contradict me though rotfl
Toni has aids btw
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:28:10 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on October 25, 2018, 07:25:28 PM
Didn't contradict me though rotfl
Toni has aids btw
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msnkisi
I'll give it to you - your stance regarding not counting RIAA for sales was consistent in the posts I looked at. Kudos.
Ultimately, a sales auditor generates the report which gives the certifications.
And 'fas is a matted weave wearin' ho.
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Does he do IRS audits as well? Asking for my friend Toni (http://j.gifs.com/0R0MoN.gif)
Everyone knows riaa is based on shipments not sales. Not 55 pages of herb refusing to admit to being wrong.
Alexa play take a bow.
The argument is you asking for a link for something when you have NEVER provided any link that states otherwise.
You were wrapped up with a ribbon and a bow on it on page 1 and are still trying to maneuver a way out the box.
Alexa play so so dumb by Cayenne and T-burl
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Drais in here slicin & dicin
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Not fucking & all of the above being the same price :plzstop:
What I have is mine. Time for you to get resourceful. They got you pinned to the ground.
Alexa play get up 10.
Shit! Af is being torn asunder in here
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Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 07:48:51 PM
Everyone knows riaa is based on shipments not sales. Not 55 pages of herb refusing to admit to being wrong.
Alexa play take a bow.
ALL THIS :plzstop:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 25, 2018, 07:53:49 PM
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Not this mess menu
The argument was about sales not being associated with RIAA at all. They clearly are. :dead: everyone decided to argue semantics after that but Mya was wrong in the end
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:04:29 PM
Talisa is right -
What I was going in about for these past few pages was Laz saying that RIAA is NOT associated with sales.
My point was - RIAA is under the "sales" category. Meaning, if there's a sales convo to be had in music, RIAA will most likely be mentioned. As evidenced in the thread below:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:00:48 PM
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 07:58:14 PM
Tears.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 06:31:42 PM
Found another VERY interesting thread regarding certifications.
The gorls were going tooth and NAIL for RIAA as verification of SALES/units.
And even knocking Billboard a bit.
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=20444.0
I'm crying. Lemme just. What's really up guys?
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:cheerup:
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 07:59:43 PM
The argument was about sales not being associated with RIAA at all. They clearly are. :dead: everyone decided to argue semantics after that but Mya was wrong in the end
Faggot they aren?t. If your label decided to ship a million copies and you barely sold 100k. They could still certify you platinum.
RIAA stands for units shipped not sold. RIAA does not track sales. Soundscan does.
Now that riaa allows SPS for updates on certifications it?s still up to the label to submit receipts of said streaming equivalents in units.
RIAA has NEVER been about actual sales.
djdjdjdj djdjdjd y?all ain?t reach a fuckin conclusion yet. Dinner, anyone?
Quote from: L0NZ. on October 25, 2018, 08:08:19 PM
djdjdjdj djdjdjd y?all ain?t reach a fuckin conclusion yet. Dinner, anyone?
Herbs head is being served on a silver platter
UNless you find a post I made in there I ain?t clicking that fucking spam!
Not the only one! They said!
Alexa play you?ve been wrong.
let me prep these midnight snacks too cuz :dead:
It was ended when lax firs sliced and diced :raycharles2urmess:
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 07:59:43 PM
The argument was about sales not being associated with RIAA at all. They clearly are. :dead: everyone decided to argue semantics after that but Mya was wrong in the end
Faggot they aren?t. If your label decided to ship a million copies and you barely sold 100k. They could still certify you platinum.
RIAA stands for units shipped not sold. RIAA does not track sales. Soundscan does.
Now that riaa allows SPS for updates on certifications it?s still up to the label to submit receipts of said streaming equivalents in units.
RIAA has NEVER been about actual sales.
ok, genius
Then why did they put this on the I Bet plat plaque, that not everybody has?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
Since y'all know in full detail what RIAA does, explain that to me
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vvv
why am I scrolling past ciara plaques for a song no one has mentioned since it came out
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 07:59:43 PM
The argument was about sales not being associated with RIAA at all. They clearly are. :dead: everyone decided to argue semantics after that but Mya was wrong in the end
Faggot they aren?t. If your label decided to ship a million copies and you barely sold 100k. They could still certify you platinum.
RIAA stands for units shipped not sold. RIAA does not track sales. Soundscan does.
Now that riaa allows SPS for updates on certifications it?s still up to the label to submit receipts of said streaming equivalents in units.
RIAA has NEVER been about actual sales.
Sle dont bother. These idiots been acting dense this whole thread. And Talisa is the worst kinda nigga, an enabler. This nigga sitting in here for damn near 60 pgs looking completely fckn stupid and this nigga in his corner patting him on the back :dead:
Vonc dont do shit but quote niggas and get dragged :dead: you been done dumb DL faggot
A whole idiot.
I bet!
Shut yo simple ass up :dead:
/
You need somebody to quote to really make an insult sting, dear
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 08:15:15 PM
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 07:59:43 PM
The argument was about sales not being associated with RIAA at all. They clearly are. :dead: everyone decided to argue semantics after that but Mya was wrong in the end
Faggot they aren?t. If your label decided to ship a million copies and you barely sold 100k. They could still certify you platinum.
RIAA stands for units shipped not sold. RIAA does not track sales. Soundscan does.
Now that riaa allows SPS for updates on certifications it?s still up to the label to submit receipts of said streaming equivalents in units.
RIAA has NEVER been about actual sales.
ok, genius
Then why did they put this on the I Bet plat plaque, that not everybody has?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
Because of SPS retard.
I bet did not sell a million downloads of anything in actual units.
This is a prime example of RIAA not tracking actual copies SOLD :kii:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 08:17:37 PM
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 07:59:43 PM
The argument was about sales not being associated with RIAA at all. They clearly are. :dead: everyone decided to argue semantics after that but Mya was wrong in the end
Faggot they aren?t. If your label decided to ship a million copies and you barely sold 100k. They could still certify you platinum.
RIAA stands for units shipped not sold. RIAA does not track sales. Soundscan does.
Now that riaa allows SPS for updates on certifications it?s still up to the label to submit receipts of said streaming equivalents in units.
RIAA has NEVER been about actual sales.
Sle dont bother. These idiots been acting dense this whole thread. And Talisa is the worst kinda nigga, an enabler. This nigga sitting in here for damn near 60 pgs looking completely fckn stupid and this nigga in his corner patting him on the back :dead:
And looking a whole fool with that I Bet mess as if it doesn?t know what SPS is.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:32:18 PM
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:guys:
Lmfao this thread just keep getting better
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 08:32:18 PM
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:plzstop:
Vonc?
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 08:30:48 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 08:15:15 PM
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 07:59:43 PM
The argument was about sales not being associated with RIAA at all. They clearly are. :dead: everyone decided to argue semantics after that but Mya was wrong in the end
Faggot they aren?t. If your label decided to ship a million copies and you barely sold 100k. They could still certify you platinum.
RIAA stands for units shipped not sold. RIAA does not track sales. Soundscan does.
Now that riaa allows SPS for updates on certifications it?s still up to the label to submit receipts of said streaming equivalents in units.
RIAA has NEVER been about actual sales.
ok, genius
Then why did they put this on the I Bet plat plaque, that not everybody has?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
Because of SPS retard.
I bet did not sell a million downloads of anything in actual units.
This is a prime example of RIAA not tracking actual copies SOLD :kii:
but SPS is sales plus streams
You're not making sense, my dear :uhh:
Quote from: The Serpent & The Rainbow on October 25, 2018, 09:03:59 PM
Lmfao this thread just keep getting better
odearoh shit I forgot that you hate vonc now vvhhhjckfkfkvkclgkfkg
:kii: :kii:
Afro is so iconic tbh.. She brings the drama and is smart and very wittty and calculating.
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Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 09:07:59 PM
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 08:30:48 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 08:15:15 PM
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 07:59:43 PM
The argument was about sales not being associated with RIAA at all. They clearly are. :dead: everyone decided to argue semantics after that but Mya was wrong in the end
Faggot they aren?t. If your label decided to ship a million copies and you barely sold 100k. They could still certify you platinum.
RIAA stands for units shipped not sold. RIAA does not track sales. Soundscan does.
Now that riaa allows SPS for updates on certifications it?s still up to the label to submit receipts of said streaming equivalents in units.
RIAA has NEVER been about actual sales.
ok, genius
Then why did they put this on the I Bet plat plaque, that not everybody has?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
Because of SPS retard.
I bet did not sell a million downloads of anything in actual units.
This is a prime example of RIAA not tracking actual copies SOLD :kii:
but SPS is sales plus streams
You're not making sense, my dear :uhh:
Faggot are you blind?
Didn?t I already said it?s the burden of the record label to provide RIAA with sps receipts?
Riaa does not track sales.
Alexa play congratulations you played yourself.
I don't hate Vonc at all. I don't even know him... I was just posting regular and he came for me. I simply overlook people like that. It's not love nor hate, it's indifference. We live in the same city that's all. But Vonc is also very smart in his own way, and knows how to start a fight, which has made this board so successful over the years. Its all about the drama and psychological warfare and those who contributes the most to it.
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 09:05:51 PM
Vonc?
Yes? Is that supposed to be me contradicting anything I've said? RIAA gives out certifications and they recognized Rihanna's million downloads. How does that negate what was said about RIAA not being the company to sit and count record sales? You and that nigga are a couple of idiots :plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 09:05:51 PM
Vonc?
Yes? Is that supposed to be me contradicting anything I've said? RIAA gives out certifications and they recognized Rihanna's million downloads. How does that negate what was said about RIAA not being the company to sit and count record sales? You and that nigga are a couple of idiots :plzstop:
They are really jumping through hoops of fire hoping to make a landing somehow :kii:
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 09:13:42 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 09:07:59 PM
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 08:30:48 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 08:15:15 PM
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 07:59:43 PM
The argument was about sales not being associated with RIAA at all. They clearly are. :dead: everyone decided to argue semantics after that but Mya was wrong in the end
Faggot they aren?t. If your label decided to ship a million copies and you barely sold 100k. They could still certify you platinum.
RIAA stands for units shipped not sold. RIAA does not track sales. Soundscan does.
Now that riaa allows SPS for updates on certifications it?s still up to the label to submit receipts of said streaming equivalents in units.
RIAA has NEVER been about actual sales.
ok, genius
Then why did they put this on the I Bet plat plaque, that not everybody has?
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108287/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
(https://www.upload.ee/image/9108295/jZ3vhtD.jpg)
Because of SPS retard.
I bet did not sell a million downloads of anything in actual units.
This is a prime example of RIAA not tracking actual copies SOLD :kii:
but SPS is sales plus streams
You're not making sense, my dear :uhh:
Faggot are you blind?
Didn?t I already said it?s the burden of the record label to provide RIAA with sps receipts?
Riaa does not track sales.
Alexa play congratulations you played yourself.
Are these people really THAT fckn stupid. :plzstop: This lackluster ass "receipt" :kii:
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 09:15:53 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 09:05:51 PM
Vonc?
Yes? Is that supposed to be me contradicting anything I've said? RIAA gives out certifications and they recognized Rihanna's million downloads. How does that negate what was said about RIAA not being the company to sit and count record sales? You and that nigga are a couple of idiots :plzstop:
They are really jumping through hoops of fire hoping to make a landing somehow :kii:
Im SCREAMING! That's how u know he doesn't know wtf he's talking about. Not posting that like
GOTCHA! :kii: :plzstop: :kii: :plzstop: :kii: :plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 09:15:53 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 09:05:51 PM
Vonc?
Yes? Is that supposed to be me contradicting anything I've said? RIAA gives out certifications and they recognized Rihanna's million downloads. How does that negate what was said about RIAA not being the company to sit and count record sales? You and that nigga are a couple of idiots :plzstop:
They are really jumping through hoops of fire hoping to make a landing somehow :kii:
Im SCREAMING! That's how u know he doesn't know wtf he's talking about. Not posting that like GOTCHA!
:kii: :plzstop: :kii: :plzstop: :kii: :plzstop:
And I bet lisnard made the screenshot and pm?d herb to come at us with the bullshit.
This set up :plzstop:
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 09:19:29 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 09:15:53 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 09:05:51 PM
Vonc?
Yes? Is that supposed to be me contradicting anything I've said? RIAA gives out certifications and they recognized Rihanna's million downloads. How does that negate what was said about RIAA not being the company to sit and count record sales? You and that nigga are a couple of idiots :plzstop:
They are really jumping through hoops of fire hoping to make a landing somehow :kii:
Im SCREAMING! That's how u know he doesn't know wtf he's talking about. Not posting that like GOTCHA!
:kii: :plzstop: :kii: :plzstop: :kii: :plzstop:
And I bet lisnard made the screenshot and pm?d herb to come at us with the bullshit.
This set up :plzstop:
Talisa is so shady. Not setting this idiot up to get knocked tf down :plzstop:
Vonc's card was pulled in here :woohoo:
Watching him scramble with scrambled EGG connoisseur Sle now
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 25, 2018, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 09:05:51 PM
Vonc?
Yes? Is that supposed to be me contradicting anything I've said?
wow, to Serpent's credit, you are smart :young: and dumb as FUCK at the same time
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:25:14 PM
I'm snickering
I'm contradicting myself and dodging the exposure at the same time :kii:
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 09:24:52 PM
Vonc's card was pulled in here :woohoo:
Watching him scramble with scrambled EGG connoisseur Sle now
Nothing was pulled in here besides gas out your ass.
Nothing in his post implies that riaa track sales. Riaa certified anti based on receipts provided by roc nation and Samsung about the PRE-purchase of X amount of units.
Again burden of the record label. Just like in the last 2 decades it was the burden of the label to provide receipts of shipment numbers.
You tried and failed
Alexa play another one bites the dust.
Yea call it a night. Take this with u
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There was no winner in this argument..there never is..but this is the thread of the year hands down..just so messy, professional, and calculating
Quote from: Champagne Rosl?i on October 25, 2018, 09:34:03 PM
Quote from: TROLLISA mess on October 25, 2018, 09:24:52 PM
Vonc's card was pulled in here :woohoo:
Watching him scramble with scrambled EGG connoisseur Sle now
Nothing was pulled in here besides gas out your ass.
Nothing in his post implies that riaa track sales. Riaa certified anti based on receipts provided by roc nation and Samsung about the PRE-purchase of X amount of units.
Again burden of the record label. Just like in the last 2 decades it was the burden of the label to provide receipts of shipment numbers.
You tried and failed
Alexa play another one bites the dust.
Sle dont even give that life. They been grasping this whole thread and that was a sad ass hail mary before he left this mufucka licking those wounds. Take the L like a big girl and do better next time :dead:
Oh and nice to see I'm still digging under that skin. He said i was on ignore but the lie detector test determined that was a fckn lie :kii:
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Are u gonnna post me saying RIAA tallys record sales or not :kii:
Quote from: can i even cash this mess? on October 25, 2018, 09:38:47 PM
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:40:34 PM
Looks like the RIAA is regarded as a source of sales information around here to some extent.
How are they a source of sales info when all they do is take sales info and award certifications accordingly. What an idiot :kii:
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:45:55 PM
We LUV the RIAA! :blessed:
Whatever they say, GOES. I'm 100% on board with the statement below. Perfect.
Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: can i even cash this mess? on October 25, 2018, 09:38:47 PM
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:guys:
Yea, everyone is on board with that statement. The RIAA took figures they were given and awarded Rihanna a double platinum plaque. That's what RIAA does. :dead:
Oh and Vonc
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Quote from: Two Spirit on October 25, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: can i even cash this mess? on October 25, 2018, 09:38:47 PM
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wtf yall still doing this
Quote from: november on October 25, 2018, 09:52:48 PM
wtf yall still doing this
Yea. He still unwilling to admit he lost and Talisa is enabling him with posts that literally have nothing to do with NOTHING :dead:
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Ima hit cha witta dose!
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Well sing a bit to soften the defeat
Let me read this shit. I can't believe it's still going on.
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Quote from: The Serpent & The Rainbow on October 25, 2018, 09:36:54 PM
There was no winner in this argument..there never is..but this is the thread of the year hands down..just so messy, professional, and calculating
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