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Title: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2019, 08:43:01 AM
Did anyone watch? Their stories are extremely detailed to have been made up. :uhh:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on March 04, 2019, 09:17:04 AM
Imma watch tonight but to be fair they have had almost their whole lives to figure out what story they are gonna tell 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ...my little hiatus on March 04, 2019, 09:22:43 AM
iont b'lieve it
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Blamblam on March 04, 2019, 09:44:20 AM
Even if you choose to overlook the molestation accusations there is footage and visible proof of him parading a multitude of little boys around with him. There's no rational way to explain why this grown ass man was so fascinated with little boys, inviting their families over for play dates, sleepovers etc. That shit is weird and if you don't think it is then you're a weirdo too. :nowgorl:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ...my little hiatus on March 04, 2019, 09:46:01 AM
He had a teachers license hun
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 04, 2019, 09:53:56 AM
Anyone who believes these lies are stupid

let this King rest

and he put all the rumors to rest when he was alive and had more than one set of interviews swarm his ranch

he was a Humanitarian , and a child at heart
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: HUGO on March 04, 2019, 10:07:25 AM
Quote from: Young on March 04, 2019, 09:53:56 AM
Anyone who believes these lies are stupid

let this King rest

abd put all the rumors to rest when he was alive and had more than one set of interviews swarm his ranch

he was a Humanitarian , and a child at heart

!!!!
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 10:14:06 AM
Not watching that trash, and these "details" of their stories have been changed constantly throughout their lives 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ...my little hiatus on March 04, 2019, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Young on March 04, 2019, 09:53:56 AM
Anyone who believes these lies are stupid

yea bowd' is a retard
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: CHOKE on March 04, 2019, 10:15:54 AM
I wonder how many times R. Kelly's victims were called stupid before it took a video of him nutting in a 14 year old for them to be taken seriously?  :uhh:

When will you girls LEARN?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 04, 2019, 10:17:44 AM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 04, 2019, 10:15:54 AM
I wonder how many times R. Kelly's victims were called stupid before it took a video of him nutting in a 14 year old for them to be taken seriously?  :uhh:

When will you girls LEARN?

So far: the most stupid post in here
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 10:24:55 AM
Michael is not Robert
they are not the same 
Michael did not legally marry a 14 yr old girl 
he did not record multiple videos of him having sex with children 
he did not hold anyone hostage or turn them against their parents 
All he has against him is the word of a few young white men 
which has not been consistent at all, and ZERO physical evidence 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4everSLAYanafan on March 04, 2019, 10:47:55 AM
yeah these crackers are egging this story unlike R.Kelly's victims they didn't bring any new details that makes these allegations more believable they basically retold a story with different and alternate lies that they told in the 90's and recant at the last second...so no....i'm not here for it, i'll watch but nnnnnnn
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4everSLAYanafan on March 04, 2019, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 04, 2019, 10:24:55 AM
Michael is not Robert
they are not the same
Michael did not legally marry a 14 yr old girl
he did not record multiple videos of him having sex with children
he did not hold anyone hostage or turn them against their parents
All he has against him is the word of a few young white men
which has not been consistent at all, and ZERO physical evidence


!!!!!!!  :plea:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: CHOKE on March 04, 2019, 10:49:22 AM
Ray...

Is it normal for a 30 year old man to share a bed with a 12 year old?

just answer the damn question 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: oph. on March 04, 2019, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: Young on March 04, 2019, 10:17:44 AM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 04, 2019, 10:15:54 AM
I wonder how many times R. Kelly's victims were called stupid before it took a video of him nutting in a 14 year old for them to be taken seriously?  :uhh:

When will you girls LEARN?

So far: the most stupid post in here

sdhgsghjgdsdgh
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: oph. on March 04, 2019, 10:51:43 AM
yea king is tf INNOCENT
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4everSLAYanafan on March 04, 2019, 10:54:27 AM
On their news promo these men laid out some basic pedo grooming techniques that doesn't even seem unique let alone unique to Micheals personality as we know it and that's documented, interviews, docs, movies, private phone calls etc.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4everSLAYanafan on March 04, 2019, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 04, 2019, 10:49:22 AM
Ray...

Is it normal for a 30 year old man to share a bed with a 12 year old?

just answer the damn question


30 year old MAN no....child trapped in a Mans phyche very possible...still isn't okay however makes complete sense 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 04, 2019, 10:49:22 AM
Ray...

Is it normal for a 30 year old man to share a bed with a 12 year old?

just answer the damn question
no it's not normal. Being the hugest celebrity in the world since the age of like 7 isn't normal
What it also is not is SEX or illegal
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Kaeli. on March 04, 2019, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: My Little 'Mones on March 04, 2019, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Young on March 04, 2019, 09:53:56 AM
Anyone who believes these lies are stupid

yea bowd' is a retard
yea
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Freemala Harris on March 04, 2019, 11:27:53 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BufpKBAHwsH/
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Blamblam on March 04, 2019, 11:53:47 AM
His behaviour reminds me of the pedo from Abducted In Plain sight. This man is sick. 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BigDawg on March 04, 2019, 11:56:38 AM
I'm not watching these bottom feeding ass motherfuckers looking for another 15 minutes of fame. 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Opposites Attract. on March 04, 2019, 12:22:35 PM
Yeah people who believe this is so damn dumb. It's like y'all know how easily it is to be manipulated by the media using trigger words and imagery and sound to evoke emotions but yet y'all fall into anyway.

Idgaf who it is, if you touch me, do wrong to me I'm telling. No amount of influence is going to change that. Period. These white boys are broke and looking for a come up. Wade Roberson is the same faggot who lied and said he slept with Shitney and made Justin break up with her.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 02:00:42 PM
Quote from: Blamblam on March 04, 2019, 09:44:20 AM
Even if you choose to overlook the molestation accusations there is footage and visible proof of him parading a multitude of little boys around with him. There's no rational way to explain why this grown ass man was so fascinated with little boys, inviting their families over for play dates, sleepovers etc. That shit is weird and if you don't think it is then you're a weirdo too. :nowgorl:

Michael had girls over all the time.  Entire families running around Neverland having a grand time.  Nicole Richie, Paris and Nicole, Tracee Ellis Ross and Diana's daughters, Whoopi's daughter, Sky Ferreira, etc. have all talked about it or had their parents talk about it.  Not to mention all of the Jackson relatives.  They don't focus on the girls because it doesn't fit the narrative.

Even if you look at the pictures of him with Jordan's family in 93, he was mostly holding and kissing Jordan's little sister, Lily.

I do not think Michael should have let kids that close to him because... well, we see what happened.  It's inappropriate, but he had boys and girls of all ages running around playing like they were at Six Flags or something.  Just because they were THERE doesn't mean they were harmed.  Especially because I don't buy that he wanted to separate them from their families.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 02:15:20 PM
They've already proven online that the happy birthday message was doctored and filmed several months before Wade's birthday.  Why are they lying?


https://twitter.com/sim_moonwalker/status/1102612605745524736
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Scott. on March 04, 2019, 02:17:09 PM
I don't put anything past anyone.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 04, 2019, 02:18:28 PM
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on March 04, 2019, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 04, 2019, 10:49:22 AM
Ray...

Is it normal for a 30 year old man to share a bed with a 12 year old?

just answer the damn question


30 year old MAN no....child trapped in a Mans phyche very possible...still isn't okay however makes complete sense

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/3dd0d8f42af8f7f40ec6a30b3f2132a9/tenor.gif?itemid=6258867)
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 04, 2019, 02:20:24 PM
okay... Lets say he ACTUALLY didnt lick on these bbys.

Of all the SHIT we give other artists for other shit and people just want to write off all the creepy shit he did? Like really?
ADMIT he was sorta disgusting and deranged.

God I cant wait for a nuclear bomb to hit and kill everyone. :dead:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 04, 2019, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 02:15:20 PM
They've already proven online that the happy birthday message was doctored and filmed several months before Wade's birthday.  Why are they lying?


https://twitter.com/sim_moonwalker/status/1102612605745524736

Whoops
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on March 04, 2019, 02:25:27 PM
He didn't touch them boys only way I'll believe is if maculy culkin comes out and says he was touched. Other than That' yeah I don't believe them 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: Baphzier. on March 04, 2019, 02:20:24 PM
okay... Lets say he ACTUALLY didnt lick on these bbys.

Of all the SHIT we give other artists for other shit and people just want to write off all the creepy shit he did? Like really?
ADMIT he was sorta disgusting and deranged.

God I cant wait for a nuclear bomb to hit and kill everyone. :dead:
n he was deranged
That's not a crime though
and Mike was parodied, insulted and trashed all throughout his later years. I can't even count how many times I've heard the "Black man turned into a white Woman" jokes
He was far from exempt from ridicule
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 04, 2019, 02:30:37 PM
he was disgusting. PERIOD 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 02:37:13 PM
As long as y' know these crackers are lying 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 04, 2019, 02:38:06 PM
I believe them. 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 02:38:27 PM
Quote from: Scott. on March 04, 2019, 02:17:09 PM
I don't put anything past anyone.

I don't either.  But I don't put lies and extortion past Wade and James.  It makes much more sense to me that they are lying for money (as shown in court) than that Michael was a sex-crazed monster.

Corey Feldman said he watched and thought it was nothing like the Michael he knew.  He said he couldn't even curse or talk about sex around Michael.  He brought up a good point that pedos usually have no control over themselves and their sick nature, so why would Michael behave totally proper around Corey and other children, but disgustingly sex-crazed around Wade and James.  It's inconsistent.  He should know pedos because he was molested by others and said Michael gave him a safe space.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 02:49:50 PM
Another thing, they supposedly said some disgusting, gruesome crap went down with Michael.  I didn't watch, but Twitter shared some things that sounded WORSE than what Jordan alleged in 93, and Gavin in 05.  Don't pedos get more depraved as time passes, or did Michael start scaling back over time?   :usureuok:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 02:52:39 PM
But I was HOLLERING at Black Twitter immediately deciding the whole thing was a lie as soon as dude said MJ's hair felt like a Brillo pad. 

FVVHHJJJKJGEESAAXVBBB  :omgwatshappening: :usureuok:


Sounds like what a racist would say black hair felt like, having never touched it.  He clearly never felt a Jheri curl.   :butwait!:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 🦚 on March 04, 2019, 02:56:56 PM
My stance is that my children are NEVER spending the night at any man's house while minors. Not the night and not the damn day either.

The parents see dollar signs and pimp their kids out. Whether he touched or didn't touch the bvys. He would never had a chance with mine. PeriodT.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 02:59:48 PM
I thought he was trying to keep kids from their families.  In the part the doc cut out, he says spend time with your parents.  :omf:

https://twitter.com/mjjrepository/status/1102645022606925826
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 03:01:15 PM
Quote from: LetMeHearYouSæ...G R A MM Y on March 04, 2019, 02:56:56 PM
My stance is that my children are NEVER spending the night at any man's house while minors. Not the night and not the damn day either.

The parents see dollar signs and pimp their kids out. Whether he touched or didn't touch the bvys. He would never had a chance with mine. PeriodT.


I agree with this.  Just as a general rule.   :letsmessfag:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: LetMeHearYouSæ...G R A MM Y on March 04, 2019, 02:56:56 PM
My stance is that my children are NEVER spending the night at any man's house while minors. Not the night and not the damn day either.

The parents see dollar signs and pimp their kids out. Whether he touched or didn't touch the bvys. He would never had a chance with mine. PeriodT.
exactly
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 03:51:39 PM
This man was a pedo. MJ stans are in denial djdjjjj
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: I. Hate. Monica. on March 04, 2019, 03:52:40 PM
that's rich
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 04, 2019, 03:54:42 PM
 :omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 02:38:27 PM
Quote from: Scott. on March 04, 2019, 02:17:09 PM
I don't put anything past anyone.

I don't either.  But I don't put lies and extortion past Wade and James.  It makes much more sense to me that they are lying for money (as shown in court) than that Michael was a sex-crazed monster.

Corey Feldman said he watched and thought it was nothing like the Michael he knew.  He said he couldn't even curse or talk about sex around Michael.  He brought up a good point that pedos usually have no control over themselves and their sick nature, so why would Michael behave totally proper around Corey and other children, but disgustingly sex-crazed around Wade and James.  It's inconsistent.  He should know pedos because he was molested by others and said Michael gave him a safe space.

n

MJ was a child molester, dyke. A gay one at that.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 04:01:54 PM
Look who bailed out  Molest and came back to the board 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 04:14:31 PM
The documentary is so good omg I'm honestly gagging at these detailed accounts. No fake acting and staged rescues needed.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 04:17:18 PM
https://twitter.com/paola_beleny/status/1102366302986035206

https://twitter.com/themjap/status/1101925410026205185

https://twitter.com/bbonthebrain/status/1102121104632537089


https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1102126008231059456 (https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1102126008231059456?s=21)



:omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 04:21:51 PM
These phone convos djdjjdjdjj :uhh: this PEDO
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Admin on March 04, 2019, 04:23:13 PM
Quote from: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 04:14:31 PM
The documentary is so good omg I'm honestly gagging at these detailed accounts. No fake acting and staged rescues needed.
°
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 04:28:19 PM
Jesus.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 04:34:06 PM
Wow Mike never went to jail or had any video of him pissing on kids
I know who did though lolz
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Jon on March 04, 2019, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on March 04, 2019, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 04, 2019, 10:49:22 AM
Ray...

Is it normal for a 30 year old man to share a bed with a 12 year old?

just answer the damn question


30 year old MAN no....child trapped in a Mans phyche very possible...still isn't okay however makes complete sense


:uhh: :uhh:  give me a break

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 04, 2019, 04:41:52 PM
Quote from: Jonovan on March 04, 2019, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on March 04, 2019, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 04, 2019, 10:49:22 AM
Ray...

Is it normal for a 30 year old man to share a bed with a 12 year old?

just answer the damn question


30 year old MAN no....child trapped in a Mans phyche very possible...still isn't okay however makes complete sense


:uhh: :uhh:  give me a break
I have NO words....
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 04, 2019, 04:34:06 PM
Wow Mike never went to jail

n

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51jPKxEq7aL.jpg)
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 04, 2019, 04:34:06 PM
Wow Mike never went to jail

n

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51jPKxEq7aL.jpg)
(https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/r-kelly-ht-jpo-190223_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg)
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Admin on March 04, 2019, 04:51:51 PM
Dddd this current ass mugshot
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 04:53:26 PM
The deflection djjjj

Predictable  
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Rxxf on March 04, 2019, 04:53:46 PM
Death
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 04:58:17 PM
This man was a monster. He knew he had the money and star power to get away with literally anything omf
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 05:00:00 PM
Lol like Bill Cosby did
sure
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2019, 05:46:41 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 04, 2019, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: My Little 'Mones on March 04, 2019, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Young on March 04, 2019, 09:53:56 AM
Anyone who believes these lies are stupid

yea bowd' is a retard
yea
Get your little nappy-headed ass out of my damn thread.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2019, 05:52:34 PM
I believe he either molested them or they've convinced themselves that these events happened. I don't think they just made this stuff up later in life..
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 06:04:52 PM
Well the first trial was back in the 90s this isn't their first time telling these stories
theyve been telling them all their lives, but they still are unsubstantiated 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 🦚 on March 04, 2019, 07:10:27 PM


Kwee said no dice.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 04, 2019, 05:52:34 PM
I believe he either molested them or they've convinced themselves that these events happened. I don't think they just made this stuff up later in life..

Why not, when they were suing the estate for $1.6 billion in 2013?

Just a few months prior, Wade was dancing and tributing Michael.  You really think he didn't "realize" he was molested until long after Mike was dead?   :dead:

He was so traumitized that he couldn't dance? 


https://twitter.com/safarichik/status/1102370240653074432
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2019, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 04, 2019, 05:52:34 PM
I believe he either molested them or they've convinced themselves that these events happened. I don't think they just made this stuff up later in life..

Why not, when they were suing the estate for $1.6 billion in 2013?

Just a few months prior, Wade was dancing and tributing Michael.  You really think he didn't "realize" he was molested until long after Mike was dead?   :dead:

He was so traumitized that he couldn't dance? 


https://twitter.com/safarichik/status/1102370240653074432
The superstar jumped OWT! Wade is so talented!
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 08:47:43 PM
His dancing ain't it, no shade.  :plzstop:  
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2019, 08:48:29 PM
Doesn't prove he's lying tho..
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2019, 08:49:19 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 08:47:43 PM
His dancing ain't it, no shade.  :plzstop: 
ncbcbcccccc

He did the best he could with that trash ass song!
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Blamblam on March 04, 2019, 08:51:57 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 08:47:43 PM
His dancing ain't it, no shade.  :plzstop: 

Yeah MJ was enamoured with him for something and it wasn't his dancing.  :nowgorl:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 09:03:09 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 04, 2019, 06:04:52 PM
Well the first trial was back in the 90s this isn't their first time telling these stories
theyve been telling them all their lives, but they still are unsubstantiated


They've been telling them since 2013.  They maintained he never touched them before that.  Wade testified on Michael's behalf voluntarily during the 2005 trial.

That in itself should be a red flag.  If you know you are guilty of touching Wade, why let him get on the witness stand voluntarily to potentially crack under pressure or spill something under pressure during cross-examination by professional lawyers and investigators?  HUGE, stupid, unnecessary gamble on Michael's part if he really molested Wade. 

Notice his sister said she was at the sleepovers, too.  And his mom said she had access to the room.


Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 09:13:55 PM
Quote from: Blamblam on March 04, 2019, 08:51:57 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 08:47:43 PM
His dancing ain't it, no shade.  :plzstop: 

Yeah MJ was enamoured with him for something and it wasn't his dancing.  :nowgorl:

Enamored?  Really?  Because his own mama said Michael would pay Wade dust, hitting his feelings.  SHE was the one pushing him to meet Michael and get his career popping, and mad when Michael didn't call or take him on tour.  Which is it?  Was he obsessed or not?


Wade was pushed to be a child star from a young age.  Michael was his claim to fame and his association got him his choreography jobs. He was briefly tryna rap and called Michael a nigga in his album thank yous. 


His mom testified in 2005 that they had only been to Neverland 4 times in 14 years while Michael was there, but countless times without him there.  Michael often let guests have their run of the place while he traveled.  He wasn't pressed to be around them.  :dead:

https://twitter.com/themjcast/status/1102097308018139136



Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2019, 09:16:35 PM
And another thing, I'm tired of hearing that "Michael never had a childhood" as a reason for his strange behavior.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Ulysses on March 04, 2019, 09:19:47 PM
Michael has lied to us in the past. Many times. He also was not right mentally. What would be so UNREAL that he would inappropriately touch young boys? Because he said he didn't?? I really really really want to believe Michael is innocent, but I just can't put it past him either. The man wasn't right...:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Blamblam on March 04, 2019, 09:23:49 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 09:13:55 PM
Quote from: Blamblam on March 04, 2019, 08:51:57 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 08:47:43 PM
His dancing ain't it, no shade.  :plzstop: 

Yeah MJ was enamoured with him for something and it wasn't his dancing.  :nowgorl:

Enamored?  Really?  Because his own mama said Michael would pay Wade dust, hitting his feelings.  SHE was the one pushing him to meet Michael and get his career popping, and mad when Michael didn't call or take him on tour.  Which is it?  Was he obsessed or not?


Wade was pushed to be a child star from a young age.  Michael was his claim to fame and his association got him his choreography jobs. He was briefly tryna rap and called Michael a nigga in his album thank yous. 


His mom testified in 2005 that they had only been to Neverland 4 times in 14 years while Michael was there, but countless times without him there.  Michael often let guests have their run of the place while he traveled.  He wasn't pressed to be around them.  :dead:

https://twitter.com/themjcast/status/1102097308018139136

Yes enamoured, up until he moved on to the next little boy as pedos tend to do.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 04, 2019, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: 4 fucking k on March 04, 2019, 04:14:31 PM
The documentary is so good omg I'm honestly gagging at these detailed accounts. No fake acting and staged rescues needed.

n

You're just in pure BLISS that now the girls are discussing someone besides Bert :plzstop:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 04, 2019, 09:19:47 PM
Michael has lied to us in the past. Many times. He also was not right mentally. What would be so UNREAL that he would inappropriately touch young boys? Because he said he didn't?? I really really really want to believe Michael is innocent, but I just can't put it past him either. The man wasn't right...:

Wade and James lied in the past.  Look up the allegations and the history of the accusers.  Not one person has ever come forward who did not first attempt to extort millions from either Michael or his estate.  Wade came forward with a sealed case to try to get the Estate to pay him a quiet settlement until they told him to kick rocks, and then he came out publicly to pressure them.  Is it so hard to believe people would lie for money?

They've been doing it for decades.  This happened in the 90's, and even the show that was against Michael (Hard Copy and Diane Dimond) has to admit they were almost fooled by blatant lies from another accuser.


Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 🦚 on March 04, 2019, 09:30:29 PM
If it's all so damn true. The parents need to be charged for sex trafficking
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Ulysses on March 04, 2019, 09:34:24 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 04, 2019, 09:19:47 PM
Michael has lied to us in the past. Many times. He also was not right mentally. What would be so UNREAL that he would inappropriately touch young boys? Because he said he didn't?? I really really really want to believe Michael is innocent, but I just can't put it past him either. The man wasn't right...:

Wade and James lied in the past.  Look up the allegations and the history of the accusers.  Not one person has ever come forward who did not first attempt to extort millions from either Michael or his estate.  Wade came forward with a sealed case to try to get the Estate to pay him a quiet settlement until they told him to kick rocks, and then he came out publicly to pressure them.  Is it so hard to believe people would lie for money?

They've been doing it for decades.  This happened in the 90's, and even the show that was against Michael (Hard Copy and Diane Dimond) has to admit they were almost fooled by blatant lies from another accuser.


Truly innocent people don't pay people off either. If he really wanted to clear his name, he could have let evidence and court prove him innocent. Seems as though he doubts he could win...
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2019, 09:34:33 PM
Quote from: LetMeHearYouSæ...G R A MM Y on March 04, 2019, 09:30:29 PM
If it's all so damn true. The parents need to be charged for sex trafficking
:omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Sinpool on March 04, 2019, 09:37:53 PM
fuck this documentary 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Sinpool on March 04, 2019, 09:38:49 PM
I don't fucking believe this shit
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Sinpool on March 04, 2019, 09:39:06 PM
This is trash 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 09:39:57 PM
I just find it hard to believe that Michael did all this and there's no evidence at all
he was tried in court twice? and it was young WHITE kids he was supposedly after
and they couldn't find ANYTHING to lock him up? and hes not even alive right now to give ppl hush money, and his family and estate arent either
and still nothing
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 09:40:05 PM
Notice that liar had graphic details of abuse, memorized the layout of Neverland and Hayvenhurst, and knew employees by face.  He never even met Michael.  :dead: 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Sinpool on March 04, 2019, 09:43:09 PM
This fucking white bitch is evil
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 04, 2019, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 04, 2019, 09:39:57 PM
I just find it hard to believe that Michael did all this and there's no evidence at all
he was tried in court twice? and it was young WHITE kids he was supposedly after
and they couldn't find ANYTHING to lock him up? and hes not even alive right now to give ppl hush money, and his family and estate arent either
and still nothing

Cuz it didn't damn happen

He had staff and everything else round the damn clock on his property

Like gorl
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2019, 09:44:48 PM
Guys, victims don't always admit to being abused. Sometimes it takes a while before they're comfortable with saying what happened..
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Sinpool on March 04, 2019, 09:46:52 PM
d

for someone who was "sexually abused" This boy doesn't seem that affected.

He sounds damn happy to be recounting this story.

I don't care how many times you tell it, recounting your sexual abuse in detail ain't easy and this faggot is acting like he's telling a Christmas carol.

You could see and feel the hurt coming from Bert's harem of women. This damn boy is LYING
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 09:49:34 PM
Quote from: Young on March 04, 2019, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 04, 2019, 09:39:57 PM
I just find it hard to believe that Michael did all this and there's no evidence at all
he was tried in court twice? and it was young WHITE kids he was supposedly after
and they couldn't find ANYTHING to lock him up? and hes not even alive right now to give ppl hush money, and his family and estate arent either
and still nothing

Cuz it didn't damn happen

He had staff and everything else round the damn clock on his property

Like gorl
you know ppl would spilling ALL the secrets right about now if they had any
like c'mon son
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 09:52:24 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 04, 2019, 09:34:24 PM


Truly innocent people don't pay people off either. If he really wanted to clear his name, he could have let evidence and court prove him innocent. Seems as though he doubts he could win...

Michael's insurance company paid settlements to make accusers go away so that Michael could keep touring. 

Michael didn't want to pay anyone.  Ever.  That was why the allegations in 1993 came out in the first place.  Jordan Chandler's dad tried to blackmail Michael.  He threatened to go public with allegations if Michael didn't give him $20M.  Michael said no, so the boy's family sued him in a civil case (not cooperating with a criminal case) and the allegations were made public.  If Michael wanted to pay people off, we would have never heard of Jordie Chandler in 1993.

It's all on record.  Michael's lawyers fought for a CRIMINAL case to be tried against the first accuser so he wouldn't have to pay and could be vindicated in court.  Meaning, if he were found guilty, he would go to jail.  A judge wouldn't allow it.  Michael's team felt they had to reach a settlement because they were being forced to do a civil trial first.

By 2005, the Arvizo family tried the same strategy with the same lawyer :dead: but the California laws had changed by then to force a criminal trial before a civil one.  Probably because of Michael's case in 1993.  The Arvizos tried to get money first, but had to backpedal and cooperate with a criminal case first, which exposed their lies so they couldn't get anything. :roflmao:

Wade and Jimmy tried to get money from a dead man instead of going to police or testifying to put him in jail when they had ample opportunity to do so while Michael was alive.  Wade shopped a book but no publisher wanted it.  They wanted a settlement; got nothing.  They sued for $1.6 billion and got their case thrown out for lying.  I don't think Jimmy's case even made it to court because it's so stupid. They are appealing now and want to influence the public and possibly influence a jury to help the next phase of their appeal.

Do victims always run straight towards money instead of seeking justice against their abuser?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Sinpool on March 04, 2019, 09:53:56 PM
BTW

Michael Jackson (https://www.tmz.com/person/michael-jackson/) never molested a guy named Brett Barnes -- so says Barnes himself -- and he's getting ready to sue HBO for a documentary insinuating he was sexually abused by MJ.
The upcoming documentary, "Leaving Neverland," shows Brett, and he claims it implies Jackson molested him as a boy. As for why Barnes thinks this ... Wade Robson (https://www.tmz.com/person/wade-robson/) -- one of Jackson's well-known alleged victims -- claims in the doc, Barnes "replaced him." The film then shows Michael and Brett together on tour. Thus, the insinuation.
Barnes lawyered up and threatened HBO with a lawsuit (https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/21/michael-jackson-estate-sues-hbo-claiming-it-trashed-the-singer-in-leaving-neverland/), claiming the documentary puts him in a false light and subjects him to "hatred, contempt and ridicule." Presumably, the lawyer is saying MJ supporters will target Barnes as a result of the documentary. 
Barnes testified at Jackson's criminal trial in 2005 -- along with Macaulay Culkin (https://www.tmz.com/person/macaulay-culkin/) -- that he was never sexually abused by Jackson ... and he hasn't changed his account since. Brett also tweeted about the MJ allegations in January, calling them "lies."

https://twitter.com/IAmBrettBarnes/status/1090577892155678725

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: Young on March 04, 2019, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 04, 2019, 09:39:57 PM
I just find it hard to believe that Michael did all this and there's no evidence at all
he was tried in court twice? and it was young WHITE kids he was supposedly after
and they couldn't find ANYTHING to lock him up? and hes not even alive right now to give ppl hush money, and his family and estate arent either
and still nothing

Cuz it didn't damn happen

He had staff and everything else round the damn clock on his property

Like gorl


The only employees who said something happened were people paid by tabloids.

Oh!  Saw Michael and Macauly in the shower!

Saw Michael and Wade in the jacuzzi.


All of them were disgruntled ex-employees who were fired for one thing or another (like stealing  :supluv: ) and then ran to the tabloids to get paid 5-6 figures for stories alleging they saw something with Michael and a boy.  The tabloids were paying a lot of money for Michael stories.  Wade's family told him they had been offered many thousands to flip on him. 

The defense exposed all those employees as liars on the witness stand during the 2005 trial.  You saw a kid in the shower with a grown man, did nothing, kept vacuuming or whatever you were doing, and stayed silent until a tabloid bought the story from you?   :usureuok:


Not surprisingly, no one even mentioned seeing anything with Jimmy.  He was around before the first allegations came out, so no one would have been offering money for those stories at the time.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 10:11:18 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: Young on March 04, 2019, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 04, 2019, 09:39:57 PM
I just find it hard to believe that Michael did all this and there's no evidence at all
he was tried in court twice? and it was young WHITE kids he was supposedly after
and they couldn't find ANYTHING to lock him up? and hes not even alive right now to give ppl hush money, and his family and estate arent either
and still nothing

Cuz it didn't damn happen

He had staff and everything else round the damn clock on his property

Like gorl


  You saw a kid in the shower with a grown man, did nothing, kept vacuuming or whatever you were doing,

Im in tears :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: long-timeXMasPartyFor2Fan on March 04, 2019, 10:22:31 PM
Damn, Michael did it!

:supluv:

Wish I could have met him when I was young and cute  :wub:

:-P
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
Why didn't they mention Michael hooking Wade by with his niece Brandi, and them dating for seven years?   :everythingok:

She sounds just like Janet when she talks.  :dead:

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 04, 2019, 10:34:21 PM
But girls this happened just as much as the Bert mess

How dare y'all pick and choose :guys: 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2019, 10:48:54 PM
I just don't see why these men would make all of this up.. so they can say they were molested by Michael? Wade doesn't strike me as that type..
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2019, 10:53:46 PM
so forget all of the stuff posted that shows that HE IS the type and wants money huh?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 11:05:53 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 04, 2019, 10:48:54 PM
I just don't see why these men would make all of this up.. so they can say they were molested by Michael? Wade doesn't strike me as that type..


$1.6 Billion. 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Nine on March 04, 2019, 11:14:51 PM
They're both liars, who should be ashamed of themselves.

And that Wade gorl is on camera multiple times saying Michael never touched him. Fake ass.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Sinpool on March 04, 2019, 11:23:46 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 04, 2019, 10:34:21 PM
But girls this happened just as much as the Bert mess

How dare y'all pick and choose :guys:

Bert did it

Michael didn't.

Bert had a girl escaping from his grasp in his documentary.

I don't see no children being rescued from Michaels coffin.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: The Brandy Barbie on March 04, 2019, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 04, 2019, 09:19:47 PM
Michael has lied to us in the past. Many times. He also was not right mentally. What would be so UNREAL that he would inappropriately touch young boys? Because he said he didn't?? I really really really want to believe Michael is innocent, but I just can't put it past him either. The man wasn't right...:


Yeah, 'cause he said his kids are black, and he said his dad's eyes are blue,and he said he had sex with Debbie Rowe. So we can't just take his word.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Sinpool on March 04, 2019, 11:30:25 PM
His kids are black
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 11:31:30 PM
Bert is on tape multiple times and had a marriage license with a child.  Bert had several people corroborate the victims' stories by telling you how he acted and interacted with people in front of their own eyes.  Police raided one property and found more tapes, but couldn't use them in court because they didn't have a warrant.

Meanwhile, people who knew or were around Michael have no idea what these men are talking about.  They describe Michael as acting the exact opposite privately.  They raided his home twice but found nothing they could use in court.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: The Brandy Barbie on March 04, 2019, 11:32:16 PM
But it does appear that the end game here for these two men (especially Wade) is to get paid because they've sued his estate and got nothing. Who needs to take money from the guy's kids to feel redemption? And that's the part that makes them look sketchy.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 11:41:44 PM

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 11:42:48 PM
Not a pedo trying to warn his nephews about the dangers of molestation, even in one's family.   :omgwatshappening:

https://twitter.com/santikapowski/status/1101923085165494273
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on March 04, 2019, 11:59:08 PM
You guys realize that all of this is done so that Legacies are destroyed and worth is devalued

These guys lied under oath and they are lying now for  their 3 minutes and a coin

they loved michael because he was a loving nice guy that had a genuine heart for children and a need to keep a childlike  energy

the way they keep trying to pervert the purity in his heart is disgusting

Its no different than the silly narrative placed upon black men all of these years that black men just want to attack and rape white women

Then we had Michael touches and molests lil white boys

Debbie rowe said  you come to his house lets get on the bed were watching tv or cartoons or mess

EVERYONE in someway and especially artists find ways to tap into their inner child because that is where joy lies

to come back years later after you lied on the stand and say he touched  and licked my danger zone while hes dead is horrible

and its just a smear campaign to To ruin his name and devalue his worth and the worth of his estate
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 12:56:45 AM
These sick ass parents 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 01:02:08 AM
This is boring and uninteresting 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 01:02:41 AM
This lady talking about she let this little boy go into this grown ass mans trailer 

sick ass white hoe 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on March 05, 2019, 01:16:09 AM
Quote from: Inkling on March 04, 2019, 09:46:52 PM
d

for someone who was "sexually abused" This boy doesn't seem that affected.

He sounds damn happy to be recounting this story.

I don't care how many times you tell it, recounting your sexual abuse in detail ain't easy and this faggot is acting like he's telling a Christmas carol.

You could see and feel the hurt coming from Bert's harem of women. This damn boy is LYING

!!!!!!!!!!!!

im watching it now .. Michael was just a SEX FIEND  tearing this boys boootyhole up from the tree house to the roller coasters



he is happy smiling etc ..yeah he is makin it up  .. he keeps looking away and fidgeting around a bit
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 01:31:31 AM
"Michael likes it when u would bend over and spread your cheeks"

:uhh:


lemme turn this SHIT OFF 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 01:32:16 AM
"Michael likes it when u licked his nipple"


this sick ass shit 

oprah 
hun 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 05, 2019, 01:32:48 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 01:31:31 AM
"Michael likes it when u would bend over and spread your cheeks"

:uhh:


lemme turn this SHIT OFF
:plzstop: :ummwhat: ion think ima be watching this tbh
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 05, 2019, 01:33:15 AM
this guilty sick pasty dead fag 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on March 05, 2019, 01:40:06 AM
ill never forget the touch of his hair.  it was almost like a ..like a brillo pad!  i remember the roughness of it 

WADE GORLLLLLLLL 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Opposites Attract. on March 05, 2019, 01:40:22 AM
King is being vindicated. The white people really thought they had something going. They are getting ate tf up.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 01:43:48 AM
Quote from: Baphzier. on March 05, 2019, 01:32:48 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 01:31:31 AM
"Michael likes it when u would bend over and spread your cheeks"

:uhh:


lemme turn this SHIT OFF
:plzstop: :ummwhat: ion think ima be watching this tbh
im tf disgusted
And lowkey about to turn this off

It's like  :uhh: very disturbing
And this damn man who was a boy being raped by MJ is sorta praising him
Saying their relationship was powerful and how it felt like when u first start a relationship with someone

Describing all the sex they had  :uhh:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 01:44:29 AM
Quote from: Jussie Lying on March 05, 2019, 01:40:06 AM
ill never forget the touch of his hair.  it was almost like a ..like a brillo pad!  i remember the roughness of it

WADE GORLLLLLLLL
Jcjdjdjd. :guys:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 01:44:43 AM
Quote from: Baphzier. on March 05, 2019, 01:33:15 AM
this guilty sick pasty dead fag
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 01:57:38 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 01:43:48 AM
Quote from: Baphzier. on March 05, 2019, 01:32:48 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 01:31:31 AM
"Michael likes it when u would bend over and spread your cheeks"

:uhh:


lemme turn this SHIT OFF
:plzstop: :ummwhat: ion think ima be watching this tbh
im tf disgusted
And lowkey about to turn this off

It's like  :uhh: very disturbing
And this damn man who was a boy being raped by MJ is sorta praising him
Saying their relationship was powerful and how it felt like when u first start a relationship with someone

Describing all the sex they had  :uhh:


Some think the director is a pedo.  He kept comparing it to love and being in a relationship.   :uhh:  He May be in NAMBLA.  There is no reason to describe sick sex acts in details just for shock value.

They lifted a lot of what they allege from Victor Gutierrez's pedo book.  MJ sued that man and won a $2M judgment before that man fled the country. 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 02:33:07 AM
 :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening:

https://twitter.com/ineauxnerdy/status/1102780892420878336
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: oph. on March 05, 2019, 02:43:47 AM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 02:33:07 AM
:omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening:

https://twitter.com/ineauxnerdy/status/1102780892420878336

fgdhfjdj

needs to hear! game changer!

this bitch just laid out some BASICS. ain't got shit to do with these miracle whip fags LYING.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 05, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
Lost respect for Oprah for this, what a sell out :dead:
She couldn't have done this for money
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 05, 2019, 03:43:55 AM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 11:42:48 PM
Not a pedo trying to warn his nephews about the dangers of molestation, even in one's family.   :omgwatshappening:

https://twitter.com/santikapowski/status/1101923085165494273
Yh see this doesn't make sense.
Lies, lies LIES!
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: b7 on March 05, 2019, 05:07:08 AM
This isn't having anywhere near the impact of the R. Kelly doc. These people aren't very good at lying 

too many facts have come out to dispute this mess. My kids definitely wouldn't have been staying at his house tho

n
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: b7 on March 05, 2019, 05:15:59 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 01:31:31 AM
"Michael likes it when u would bend over and spread your cheeks"

:uhh:


lemme turn this SHIT OFF
cnncmcm
C
C
C

C


I just can't see it now
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 05, 2019, 05:19:39 AM
 :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Whoever directed this needs to have their personal life looked into
it's gives self projection tea
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 05, 2019, 06:10:41 AM
Quote from: King Naomi on March 05, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
Lost respect for Oprah for this, what a sell out :dead:
She couldn't have done this for money

I'm really upset
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 07:47:45 AM
Quote from: King Naomi on March 05, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
Lost respect for Oprah for this, what a sell out :dead:
She couldn't have done this for money
well she is a victim of sexual abuse so I don't know if this was a sell out thing
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 07:49:52 AM
This was done in poor taste tho 
and its not gonna be productive because of its presentation and how romanticized it feels 
it's very creepy 

plus they waited tilll a decade after his death 
They don't have enough proof to pull this off 
so like some things.. u should simply leave them alone 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Opposites Attract. on March 05, 2019, 07:56:23 AM
Oprah will be back begging when those crackers turn on her. I can't wait to hear the ratings. Night 1 was a flop.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: CREAM. on March 05, 2019, 07:57:17 AM
R the OWN ratings taking a dip or sum
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on March 05, 2019, 08:09:15 AM
Quote from: BINZ. on March 05, 2019, 07:57:17 AM
R the OWN ratings taking a dip or sum
SHSJSJJSJSJSJSJSJSJNSNSNSNSNBSSNNSNDNSNDNNSNDNDNSNBSNDNDNBDD

!!!! Because of the timing, it just makes it even harder for me to take it seriously.

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on March 05, 2019, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: BINZ. on March 05, 2019, 07:57:17 AM
R the OWN ratings taking a dip or sum


it came on HBO not OWN
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 05, 2019, 08:37:22 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 07:47:45 AM
Quote from: King Naomi on March 05, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
Lost respect for Oprah for this, what a sell out :dead:
She couldn't have done this for money
well she is a victim of sexual abuse so I don't know if this was a sell out thing
Even worse
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 09:20:45 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 07:47:45 AM
Quote from: King Naomi on March 05, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
Lost respect for Oprah for this, what a sell out :dead:
She couldn't have done this for money
well she is a victim of sexual abuse so I don't know if this was a sell out thing


But she's friends with Weinstein and David Geffen.

:udontlookok:


Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 05, 2019, 09:21:28 AM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 09:20:45 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 07:47:45 AM
Quote from: King Naomi on March 05, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
Lost respect for Oprah for this, what a sell out :dead:
She couldn't have done this for money
well she is a victim of sexual abuse so I don't know if this was a sell out thing


But she's friends with Weinstein and David Geffen.

:udontlookok:
:guys:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 09:43:25 AM
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: SouravMay on March 05, 2019, 10:17:42 AM
Why is he calling it sex, when in reality it was ABUSE. The vocabulary really fckn bothers me. Normalizing this disgusting despicable mess.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 05, 2019, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 07:47:45 AM
Quote from: King Naomi on March 05, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
Lost respect for Oprah for this, what a sell out :dead:
She couldn't have done this for money
well she is a victim of sexual abuse so I don't know if this was a sell out thing
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: I. Hate. Monica. on March 05, 2019, 10:35:20 AM
I couldn't finish it. I don't believe these stories
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: I. Hate. Monica. on March 05, 2019, 10:35:46 AM
Quote from: Poseidon on March 05, 2019, 10:17:42 AM
Why is he calling it sex, when in reality it was ABUSE. The vocabulary really fckn bothers me. Normalizing this disgusting despicable mess.

sure
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Sinpool on March 05, 2019, 10:40:17 AM
Quote from: MARS. on March 05, 2019, 10:35:20 AM
I couldn't finish it. I don't believe these stories

gfffffffffffffffffffffffff

When the boy was describing in detail teaching him how to masterbate and he was smiling and remembering it fondly and then he was like we had sex alot it was like a new couple just can't stop doing!

I'm sorry I wasn't convinced.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 05, 2019, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: Inkling on March 05, 2019, 10:40:17 AM
Quote from: MARS. on March 05, 2019, 10:35:20 AM
I couldn't finish it. I don't believe these stories

gfffffffffffffffffffffffff

When the boy was describing in detail teaching him how to masterbate and he was smiling and remembering it fondly and then he was like we had sex alot it was like a new couple just can't stop doing!

I'm sorry I wasn't convinced.

ugh

how SICK and twisted and demonic do you  have to be to LIE on the dead and TARNISH their legacy with lies

these disgusting pale twinks
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 11:40:01 AM
All of these stories aren't lies 

Blacks.. ch! 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 05, 2019, 12:23:19 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 11:40:01 AM
All of these stories aren't lies

Blacks.. ch!

how do you know that?

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
Whew!  This flop!  :feelinmyself:

https://twitter.com/showbiz411/status/1102991287140208645
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 05, 2019, 02:59:42 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
Whew!  This flop!  :feelinmyself:

https://twitter.com/showbiz411/status/1102991287140208645
kncsdfdsffsd not RHOA beating it :uhh: :dead:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
Whew!  This flop!  :feelinmyself:

https://twitter.com/showbiz411/status/1102991287140208645
bggdfdguhhh
YES! America said NO! Lolz
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 04:11:06 PM
Quote from: Jayda Jackson on March 05, 2019, 02:59:42 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
Whew!  This flop!  :feelinmyself:

https://twitter.com/showbiz411/status/1102991287140208645
kncsdfdsffsd not RHOA beating it :uhh: :dead:


And Beachfront whatever tf that other show is  :dead: :dead:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 04:12:00 PM
Oprah is fuming!  :fuming:


:roflmao: 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 04:18:33 PM
 :uhh: :dead:


XCBNJKMMMMMMMMMM  TF?  :usureuok:

https://twitter.com/liberianbihh/status/1102959682052853761


https://twitter.com/liberianbihh/status/1102706813579993089

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: fedswatchin on March 05, 2019, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 04, 2019, 09:34:24 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 04, 2019, 09:19:47 PM
Michael has lied to us in the past. Many times. He also was not right mentally. What would be so UNREAL that he would inappropriately touch young boys? Because he said he didn't?? I really really really want to believe Michael is innocent, but I just can't put it past him either. The man wasn't right...:

Wade and James lied in the past.  Look up the allegations and the history of the accusers.  Not one person has ever come forward who did not first attempt to extort millions from either Michael or his estate.  Wade came forward with a sealed case to try to get the Estate to pay him a quiet settlement until they told him to kick rocks, and then he came out publicly to pressure them.  Is it so hard to believe people would lie for money?

They've been doing it for decades.  This happened in the 90's, and even the show that was against Michael (Hard Copy and Diane Dimond) has to admit they were almost fooled by blatant lies from another accuser.


Truly innocent people don't pay people off either. If he really wanted to clear his name, he could have let evidence and court prove him innocent. Seems as though he doubts he could win...
you're FAR too old to be that naive about court rulings or the legal system. Wake up
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: fedswatchin on March 05, 2019, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
Whew!  This flop!  :feelinmyself:

https://twitter.com/showbiz411/status/1102991287140208645
:plzstop:

Mess. You can't shove cattle shit down everybody's throats huh

We see who still eatin it tho
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: LOONA. on March 05, 2019, 04:27:54 PM
The thing with Michael is that his stans be having facts and all type of receipts/documents to debunk the allegations.

Plus I can't even imagine Michael being sexual. It just seems weird.   
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: fedswatchin on March 05, 2019, 04:32:42 PM
Yea his stans need to band together and make a doc refuting all this mess shif
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: jtwoeleven on March 05, 2019, 04:38:43 PM
Oprah girl, I hope the butter biscuits were worth it.  :feelinmyself:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BigDawg on March 05, 2019, 04:48:13 PM
Ppppp not Beachfront Bargain Hunt....that's like the shittiest show on HGTV, tha fuck  :dead:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4 fucking k on March 05, 2019, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 11:31:30 PM
Bert is on tape multiple times and had a marriage license with a child.  Bert had several people corroborate the victims' stories by telling you how he acted and interacted with people in front of their own eyes.  Police raided one property and found more tapes, but couldn't use them in court because they didn't have a warrant.

Meanwhile, people who knew or were around Michael have no idea what these men are talking about.  They describe Michael as acting the exact opposite privately.  They raided his home twice but found nothing they could use in court.

Weird dyke. Stop lying. More tapes weren't found. It was images which were never authenticated by the FBI which is required. It was thrown out because the images were seized illegally. What people corroborated with victims stories? They only had one former employee in that documentary and he said Lifetime edit it his part to fit their narrative. The tape was reviewed by the FBI and they said they couldn't determine the female's age so they turned it over to Chicago PD.

Glock is right. You can't pick and choose. You're in here typing essays to justify MJ's pedo actions and make his accusers look like liars while condemning Kellz when he was investigated and proven NOT GUILTY. You hypocrite.

And funny how you're so focus on Wade and not James. There's really no way of justify a grown man sleeping with 7 year old boys and holding hands with them. Thriller wasn't that damn good, hoe.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4 fucking k on March 05, 2019, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: Jayda Jackson on March 05, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
Lost respect for Oprah for this, what a sell out :dead:
She couldn't have done this for money

Since when does Oprah need money? :uhh:

Queen has always been vocal about her disgust for MJ
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 05, 2019, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: 4 fucking k on March 05, 2019, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: Jayda Jackson on March 05, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
Lost respect for Oprah for this, what a sell out :dead:
She couldn't have done this for money

Since when does Oprah need money? :uhh:

Queen has always been vocal about her disgust for MJ
Did I say she needed money?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 05, 2019, 04:54:00 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 04:11:06 PM
Quote from: Jayda Jackson on March 05, 2019, 02:59:42 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
Whew!  This flop!  :feelinmyself:

https://twitter.com/showbiz411/status/1102991287140208645
kncsdfdsffsd not RHOA beating it :uhh: :dead:


And Beachfront whatever tf that other show is  :dead: :dead:
:omf: :omf: :omf:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 05:10:27 PM
Ack-a!  Not him detailing why Wade and Jimmy's cases were thrown out TWICE in court.

Not Wade emailing himself links to mess and including that in his testimony!  :plzstop:


Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 05:17:36 PM
Quote from: 4 fucking k on March 05, 2019, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 11:31:30 PM
Bert is on tape multiple times and had a marriage license with a child.  Bert had several people corroborate the victims' stories by telling you how he acted and interacted with people in front of their own eyes.  Police raided one property and found more tapes, but couldn't use them in court because they didn't have a warrant.

Meanwhile, people who knew or were around Michael have no idea what these men are talking about.  They describe Michael as acting the exact opposite privately.  They raided his home twice but found nothing they could use in court.



Kellz when he was investigated and proven NOT GUILTY.

no he wasn't he got off on a technicality
and he's still guilty of marrying Aaliyah
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Opposites Attract. on March 05, 2019, 05:19:56 PM
Robert has a sex tape, multiple people coming forward and a fucking marriage license. There is literally no physical evidence on MJ. The two can't compare.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 05:32:02 PM
Quote from: WAVÉS. on March 05, 2019, 05:19:56 PM
Robert has a sex tape, multiple people coming forward and a fucking marriage license. There is literally no physical evidence on MJ. The two can't compare.

An apples and oranges tea.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 05:40:26 PM
These flop ratings!  Ack-a!

Target demo:
Leaving Neverland Part 2: 0.26 million
Oprah's After Neverland: 0.23 million




(https://i.postimg.cc/NFhZTk4j/B174-E21-F-C7-CF-433-F-B403-10-DA1-A9039-F7.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: oph. on March 05, 2019, 05:51:55 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 05:32:02 PM
Quote from: WAVÉS. on March 05, 2019, 05:19:56 PM
Robert has a sex tape, multiple people coming forward and a fucking marriage license. There is literally no physical evidence on MJ. The two can't compare.

An apples and oranges tea.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:10:47 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 04:18:33 PM
:uhh: :dead:


XCBNJKMMMMMMMMMM  TF?  :usureuok:

https://twitter.com/liberianbihh/status/1102959682052853761


https://twitter.com/liberianbihh/status/1102706813579993089
dancing down
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:11:19 PM
And he better stomp to his QUEEN 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:12:58 PM
Quote from: 4 fucking k on March 05, 2019, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 04, 2019, 11:31:30 PM
Bert is on tape multiple times and had a marriage license with a child.  Bert had several people corroborate the victims' stories by telling you how he acted and interacted with people in front of their own eyes.  Police raided one property and found more tapes, but couldn't use them in court because they didn't have a warrant.

Meanwhile, people who knew or were around Michael have no idea what these men are talking about.  They describe Michael as acting the exact opposite privately.  They raided his home twice but found nothing they could use in court.

Weird dyke. Stop lying. More tapes weren't found. It was images which were never authenticated by the FBI which is required. It was thrown out because the images were seized illegally. What people corroborated with victims stories? They only had one former employee in that documentary and he said Lifetime edit it his part to fit their narrative. The tape was reviewed by the FBI and they said they couldn't determine the female's age so they turned it over to Chicago PD.

Glock is right. You can't pick and choose. You're in here typing essays to justify MJ's pedo actions and make his accusers look like liars while condemning Kellz when he was investigated and proven NOT GUILTY. You hypocrite.

And funny how you're so focus on Wade and not James. There's really no way of justify a grown man sleeping with 7 year old boys and holding hands with them. Thriller wasn't that damn good, hoe.
bvbnjjjjj

Yea  :plzstop:
Not sure how these girls can't see how selective they're being
It's weird
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 05:32:02 PM
Quote from: WAVÉS. on March 05, 2019, 05:19:56 PM
Robert has a sex tape, multiple people coming forward and a fucking marriage license. There is literally no physical evidence on MJ. The two can't compare.

An apples and oranges tea.
yet both are fruits

But dew.
Again where there's smoke there's fire
These were kids and toddlers vs in most cases teens
:plzstop:

And MJ didn't film himself like Robert was in to
But keep being blind
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:23:11 PM
James' case was thrown out.

Unlike most people, I actually research and look at the FACTS.

James says he didn't realize he was molested until Wade came out with his story in 2013.  That makes sense to you?

Where is the physical evidence?  A tape?  Anything?  Just the word of two men suing the Estate for hundreds of millions?

SEVERAL people made claims against Rape, and they did not sue him to get money.  Many others said they saw him abusing girls, going after young girls, etc. and no one paid them to say that.  His own brother and HS teacher bear witness.  :usureuok:  His current captives families aren't currently suing him.  These people are not driven by greed.


Rape paid people to keep silent (like Li and his other victims).  Michael only paid people after being coerced to do so when it was clear he could NOT force a criminal trial before a civil lawsuit.  He could have paid Jordan's family $20M from the getgo, and we would have never heard the allegations.  They only sued him in the first place because he refused to be blackmailed.  Why would a guilty man who buys people's silence do that? 

Why would a guilty man push for a criminal trial in 1993 when he could very well go to jail? 

Why didn't Jordan know Michael was uncircumcised, if he actually saw his penis?

The grand jury was confused af.  :diddraispoot:  Next case!
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: oph. on March 05, 2019, 06:25:18 PM
i dont even STAN for michael... can take or leave him tbh

but if u can't see the BLATANT differences between this and rape kelly, u kinda just don't WANT to
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:25:57 PM
Michael filmed himself doing everything else, but not sex?  He didn't even have kiddie porn tapes laying around?   What kinda new pedo was he?  :melmel:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:26:10 PM
Jcjdjdjd
so every monster records them self?

a rape kit wouldn't work because of time passed 

I mean ... wtff evidence do u girls NEED 
these were little ass kids 
I really wanna know what evidence y'all need 
dozens of accounts .. yet not one of them is believable to yall


N
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:25:57 PM
Michael filmed himself doing everything else, but not sex?  He didn't even have kiddie porn tapes laying around?   What kinda new pedo was he?  :melmel:
f

new pedo!

The fact that u think all pedos present themselves the same
Do u think that Oprah's rapist has vidyas or pictures of himself fucking her?
Or other young girls?  :uhh:

Everyone doesn't operate the damn same

U girls are disgusting
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: oph. on March 05, 2019, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:25:57 PM
Michael filmed himself doing everything else, but not sex?  He didn't even have kiddie porn tapes laying around?   What kinda new pedo was he?  :melmel:
f

new pedo!

The fact that u think all pedos present themselves the same
Do u think that Oprah's rapist has vidyas or pictures of himself fucking her?
Or other young girls?  :uhh:

Everyone doesn't operate the damn same

U girls are disgusting

glock, cinnamon crisp

r u open to the idea at all that these gorls might be lying?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:32:08 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:25:57 PM
Michael filmed himself doing everything else, but not sex?  He didn't even have kiddie porn tapes laying around?   What kinda new pedo was he?  :melmel:
f

new pedo!

The fact that u think all pedos present themselves the same
Do u think that Oprah's rapist has vidyas or pictures of himself fucking her?
Or other young girls?  :uhh:

Everyone doesn't operate the damn same

U girls are disgusting

glock, cinnamon crisp

r u open to the idea at all that these gorls might be lying?
god no.

My croissant dipped in honey glaze 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:32:57 PM
Some of them might be inflating the mess 
but collectively.. I see truth 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 06:34:27 PM
How many boys are there?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: oph. on March 05, 2019, 06:35:30 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:32:57 PM
Some of them might be inflating the mess
but collectively.. I see truth

how many of the gorls r accusing?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:25:57 PM
Michael filmed himself doing everything else, but not sex?  He didn't even have kiddie porn tapes laying around?   What kinda new pedo was he?  :melmel:
f

new pedo!

The fact that u think all pedos present themselves the same
Do u think that Oprah's rapist has vidyas or pictures of himself fucking her?
Or other young girls?  :uhh:

Everyone doesn't operate the damn same

U girls are disgusting


I'm not comparing Michael to other people.

Most people have patterns of behavior.  Michael ENJOYED FILMING HIMSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE.  Hours and hours of footage of his home videos are on YouTube, dating back to the 70's with the Jackson 5 to when his kids were young in the early 00's.  He LOVED film and movies, hence his drive to produce cinematic music videos.  I asked why a person who films himself rehearsing, his kids eating breakfast, his friends running around Neverland throwing water balloons, Elizabeth Taylor opening Christmas gifts, etc. not have any tapes of himself having sex?  Or just gross tapes of kids, since that's what he allegedly liked? 

It's inconsistent with HIS personality.

Keep up, love.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:42:10 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:25:57 PM
Michael filmed himself doing everything else, but not sex?  He didn't even have kiddie porn tapes laying around?   What kinda new pedo was he?  :melmel:
f

new pedo!

The fact that u think all pedos present themselves the same
Do u think that Oprah's rapist has vidyas or pictures of himself fucking her?
Or other young girls?  :uhh:

Everyone doesn't operate the damn same

U girls are disgusting


I'm not comparing Michael to other people.

Most people have patterns of behavior.  Michael ENJOYED FILMING HIMSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE.  Hours and hours of footage of his home videos are on YouTube, dating back to the 70's with the Jackson 5 to when his kids were young in the early 00's.  He LOVED film and movies, hence his drive to produce cinematic music videos.  I asked why a person who films himself rehearsing, his kids eating breakfast, his friends running around Neverland throwing water balloons, Elizabeth Taylor opening Christmas gifts, etc. not have any tapes of himself having sex?  Or just gross tapes of kids, since that's what he allegedly liked? 

It's inconsistent with HIS personality.

Keep up, love.
:uhh:

Hun u did just that

U compared the behavior of other pedofiles to Michaels ..
So that's a lie.. u in fact did compare him.. as u have several times to justify your point..

And secondly why would he?
So what he filmed himself feeding that monkey..
there are so many damn things I have done WRONG.. matter fact everything I've done wrong that hasn't been filmed or documented and I love a picture vidya mess

I seriously wonder if u girls are OK..
:uhh:
Why would he film himself fucking KIDS ..
he doesn't even have videos of him sleeping in the bed with them which has been corroborated by him and several of his staff

So there's THAT..
If I knew I was doing dumb morally disgusting and disturbing things I wouldn't run and film it either
Stop taking other folks experiences and applying it to MJs mind
Just because he didn't document it doesn't mean it didn't HAPPEN..

My GOD
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
another successful child star
Who was in someways untouchable  :plzstop:

malcaly! Darius! Corey!

Lord... I just
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 05, 2019, 06:46:02 PM
dfdsfs Glock is doing this on purpose guys, he's trying to do an AFRO on yall
take no notice of him he just needs some ass
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 06:51:06 PM
Not even bae ..

im dead ass.
u girls are being biased 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 07:07:36 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:42:10 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:25:57 PM
Michael filmed himself doing everything else, but not sex?  He didn't even have kiddie porn tapes laying around?   What kinda new pedo was he?  :melmel:
f

new pedo!

The fact that u think all pedos present themselves the same
Do u think that Oprah's rapist has vidyas or pictures of himself fucking her?
Or other young girls?  :uhh:

Everyone doesn't operate the damn same

U girls are disgusting


I'm not comparing Michael to other people.

Most people have patterns of behavior.  Michael ENJOYED FILMING HIMSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE.  Hours and hours of footage of his home videos are on YouTube, dating back to the 70's with the Jackson 5 to when his kids were young in the early 00's.  He LOVED film and movies, hence his drive to produce cinematic music videos.  I asked why a person who films himself rehearsing, his kids eating breakfast, his friends running around Neverland throwing water balloons, Elizabeth Taylor opening Christmas gifts, etc. not have any tapes of himself having sex?  Or just gross tapes of kids, since that's what he allegedly liked? 

It's inconsistent with HIS personality.

Keep up, love.
:uhh:

Hun u did just that

U compared the behavior of other pedofiles to Michaels ..
So that's a lie.. u in fact did compare him.. as u have several times to justify your point..

And secondly why would he?
So what he filmed himself feeding that monkey..
there are so many damn things I have done WRONG.. matter fact everything I've done wrong that hasn't been filmed or documented and I love a picture vidya mess

I seriously wonder if u girls are OK..
:uhh:
Why would he film himself fucking KIDS ..
he doesn't even have videos of him sleeping in the bed


why you record yourself sleeping? Is that a thing that ppl watch?
Sex is, but sleeping?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 05, 2019, 07:10:53 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:51:06 PM
Not even bae ..

im dead ass.
u girls are being biased
ok well bust on my face anways
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
another successful child star
Who was in someways untouchable  :plzstop:

malcaly! Darius! Corey!

Lord... I just
well these accusers are technically child stars too
Wade was a rapper and dancer
The other one was featured in his Pepsi commercial what's the difference?
Mike wasn't picking up kids off the street at McDonald's like Bert lol
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 07:35:20 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 07:07:36 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:42:10 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:25:57 PM
Michael filmed himself doing everything else, but not sex?  He didn't even have kiddie porn tapes laying around?   What kinda new pedo was he?  :melmel:
f

new pedo!

The fact that u think all pedos present themselves the same
Do u think that Oprah's rapist has vidyas or pictures of himself fucking her?
Or other young girls?  :uhh:

Everyone doesn't operate the damn same

U girls are disgusting


I'm not comparing Michael to other people.

Most people have patterns of behavior.  Michael ENJOYED FILMING HIMSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE.  Hours and hours of footage of his home videos are on YouTube, dating back to the 70's with the Jackson 5 to when his kids were young in the early 00's.  He LOVED film and movies, hence his drive to produce cinematic music videos.  I asked why a person who films himself rehearsing, his kids eating breakfast, his friends running around Neverland throwing water balloons, Elizabeth Taylor opening Christmas gifts, etc. not have any tapes of himself having sex?  Or just gross tapes of kids, since that's what he allegedly liked? 

It's inconsistent with HIS personality.

Keep up, love.
:uhh:

Hun u did just that

U compared the behavior of other pedofiles to Michaels ..
So that's a lie.. u in fact did compare him.. as u have several times to justify your point..

And secondly why would he?
So what he filmed himself feeding that monkey..
there are so many damn things I have done WRONG.. matter fact everything I've done wrong that hasn't been filmed or documented and I love a picture vidya mess

I seriously wonder if u girls are OK..
:uhh:
Why would he film himself fucking KIDS ..
he doesn't even have videos of him sleeping in the bed


why you record yourself sleeping? Is that a thing that ppl watch?
Sex is, but sleeping?
f

Lounging.. spooning.. sleeping
Boy ..
There's no footage of him LAID tf up
Yet he did it
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 07:35:52 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
another successful child star
Who was in someways untouchable  :plzstop:

malcaly! Darius! Corey!

Lord... I just
well these accusers are technically child stars too
Wade was a rapper and dancer
The other one was featured in his Pepsi commercial what's the difference?
Mike wasn't picking up kids off the street at McDonald's like Bert lol
lowkey he was
They were nobody's boy

But I'm not doing this with u
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:42:10 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:25:57 PM
Michael filmed himself doing everything else, but not sex?  He didn't even have kiddie porn tapes laying around?   What kinda new pedo was he?  :melmel:
f

new pedo!

The fact that u think all pedos present themselves the same
Do u think that Oprah's rapist has vidyas or pictures of himself fucking her?
Or other young girls?  :uhh:

Everyone doesn't operate the damn same

U girls are disgusting


I'm not comparing Michael to other people.

Most people have patterns of behavior.  Michael ENJOYED FILMING HIMSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE.  Hours and hours of footage of his home videos are on YouTube, dating back to the 70's with the Jackson 5 to when his kids were young in the early 00's.  He LOVED film and movies, hence his drive to produce cinematic music videos.  I asked why a person who films himself rehearsing, his kids eating breakfast, his friends running around Neverland throwing water balloons, Elizabeth Taylor opening Christmas gifts, etc. not have any tapes of himself having sex?  Or just gross tapes of kids, since that's what he allegedly liked? 

It's inconsistent with HIS personality.

Keep up, love.
:uhh:

Hun u did just that

U compared the behavior of other pedofiles to Michaels ..
So that's a lie.. u in fact did compare him.. as u have several times to justify your point..

And secondly why would he?
So what he filmed himself feeding that monkey..
there are so many damn things I have done WRONG.. matter fact everything I've done wrong that hasn't been filmed or documented and I love a picture vidya mess

I seriously wonder if u girls are OK..
:uhh:
Why would he film himself fucking KIDS ..
he doesn't even have videos of him sleeping in the bed with them which has been corroborated by him and several of his staff

So there's THAT..
If I knew I was doing dumb morally disgusting and disturbing things I wouldn't run and film it either
Stop taking other folks experiences and applying it to MJs mind
Just because he didn't document it doesn't mean it didn't HAPPEN..

My GOD


Which pedo did I compare him to?  I didn't give a psychological profile of pedos.  I was talking about Michael's behavior itself.  :dead:

Those police were PISSED when they stormed his properties, seized his computers, combed through all his videos and porn collection... only to never charge him with possessing child porn.  Because they didn't find any.  :dead:

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 07:56:50 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 07:35:52 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
another successful child star
Who was in someways untouchable  :plzstop:

malcaly! Darius! Corey!

Lord... I just
well these accusers are technically child stars too
Wade was a rapper and dancer
The other one was featured in his Pepsi commercial what's the difference?
Mike wasn't picking up kids off the street at McDonald's like Bert lol
lowkey he was
They were nobody's boy

But I'm not doing this with u
lol don't do it with me
not like you're having luck with anyone else on here :plzstop:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 07:58:23 PM
Eddie Winslow said he was 5 in Neverland.  He didn't become a big star until he was a teen on Family Matters.  Wiki doesn't even have roles listed for him until he was almost a teen.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 08:07:23 PM
 Boy u compared his behavior to those that aren't consistent with convicted pedofiles
are u fucking serious right now? 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 08:08:19 PM
Yea IMDB has his earliest role in 1987 he was about 10 or 11
so either he was a nobody just like Wade or they all were stars
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 05, 2019, 08:09:44 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432

Welp
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 08:09:46 PM
He was 10 in his first role 
and more than likely exaggerating how old he was when he met him :dead:
im cryinf 
chdjjdjdjdjdj


u girls 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 08:10:11 PM
Yeah cuz his nobody 5 year old ass just happened to be chilling in MJs crib 


girls...
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 08:12:52 PM
Darius McCrary comes from a musical family 
thats how he was able to be at Michael's house 
and even if he was exaggerating his age his ONE role which wasn't even the star
did not make him "untouchable"
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 08:15:12 PM
Yeah he was untouchable 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 08:16:18 PM
Because Michael didn't touch anyone 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 08:16:47 PM
n

because ur in denial 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 05, 2019, 08:17:14 PM
q
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 08:17:16 PM
 Sad that it would take someone of status to come forward for u girls to believe them 
y'all are trash 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: fedswatchin on March 05, 2019, 08:21:08 PM
Glock i know you exhausted with all this bullshit you been spewing today
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 08:24:32 PM
Or some evidence, or a concrete story that doesn't change 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 08:25:06 PM
Damn he's a molestor 

this is crazy 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 08:26:07 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
another successful child star
Who was in someways untouchable  :plzstop:

malcaly! Darius! Corey!

Lord... I just
well these accusers are technically child stars too
Wade was a rapper and dancer
The other one was featured in his Pepsi commercial what's the difference?
Mike wasn't picking up kids off the street at McDonald's like Bert lol

It doesn't even make sense.  He was around Macauly (and his brothers and sisters) a whole lot more than the rest of these boys.  Corey, too.  He's around young boys, but doesn't touch them because they're famous?  Corey had already been molested multiple times.

Look how many child stars were molested in Hollywood.  Their molesters didn't gaf about none of that.

What about Brett Barnes?  He was not a child star.

His nephews and cousins who were always at Neverland?  There were a bunch of kids.  Many we don't know.

I just don't understand how Michael was sex-crazed, carrying on with certain boys up and down Neverland and everywhere else, but then also extremely rational and restrained when it came to countless more potential victims.

As many kids came through Neverland (they would bus in Make a Wish and impoverished kids all the time), Michael would have had HUNDREDS of victims.  Minimum.  A Jimmy Seville tea.

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 08:26:17 PM
Especially since it's unproven. Very crazy indeed 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 08:27:57 PM
He did that shit 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 05, 2019, 08:28:10 PM
So ssw how many accusers are there? 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 05, 2019, 08:28:58 PM
Quote from: Temper on March 05, 2019, 08:21:08 PM
Glock i know you exhausted with all this bullshit you been spewing today
:plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 08:33:40 PM


:ummwhat:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BupaKWeHkKS/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=XGUEPQAAAAHPVMAGopUUGJ09D-NP
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BigDawg on March 05, 2019, 08:36:59 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 08:33:40 PM


:ummwhat:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BupaKWeHkKS/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=XGUEPQAAAAHPVMAGopUUGJ09D-NP
I forgot Darrin was a choreographer during that era too
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 05, 2019, 10:09:40 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:25:57 PM
Michael filmed himself doing everything else, but not sex?  He didn't even have kiddie porn tapes laying around?   What kinda new pedo was he?  :melmel:
f

new pedo!

The fact that u think all pedos present themselves the same
Do u think that Oprah's rapist has vidyas or pictures of himself fucking her?
Or other young girls?  :uhh:

Everyone doesn't operate the damn same

U girls are disgusting
!!!

I'm sick of people making excuses for this man's behavior and actions. It stops now.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 05, 2019, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
Michael only liked white boys.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 05, 2019, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
Michael only liked white boys.

The boy in 2005 was Mexican, love.

The 1993 boy was mixed/racially ambiguous.

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Ulysses on March 05, 2019, 10:23:44 PM
Is Oprah not allowed to talk about a predator because it's Michael Jackson?? I don't get it 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 05, 2019, 10:27:21 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 05, 2019, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
Michael only liked white boys.

The boy in 2005 was Mexican, love.

The 1993 boy was mixed/racially ambiguous.
He had a type. Ijs. :ermm:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: L0NZ. on March 05, 2019, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 05, 2019, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
Michael only liked white boys.

The boy in 2005 was Mexican, love.

The 1993 boy was mixed/racially ambiguous.

So he didn't like Black boys
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 05, 2019, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
Michael only liked white boys.
yea
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 10:39:32 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on March 05, 2019, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 05, 2019, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
Michael only liked white boys.

The boy in 2005 was Mexican, love.

The 1993 boy was mixed/racially ambiguous.

So he didn't like Black boys
yea
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 10:39:54 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 05, 2019, 10:23:44 PM
Is Oprah not allowed to talk about a predator because it's Michael Jackson?? I don't get it
:plzstop:
These girls and their warped views
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 05, 2019, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 10:39:54 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 05, 2019, 10:23:44 PM
Is Oprah not allowed to talk about a predator because it's Michael Jackson?? I don't get it
:plzstop:
These girls and their warped views
JHJHJHJHHJ
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 05, 2019, 10:41:53 PM
my stomach is knots
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 10:44:48 PM
Quote from: Baphzier. on March 05, 2019, 10:41:53 PM
my stomach is knots
dddddddddddddddd

I've been snickering all day  :kii:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on March 05, 2019, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 05, 2019, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
Michael only liked white boys.

The boy in 2005 was Mexican, love.

The 1993 boy was mixed/racially ambiguous.

So he didn't like Black boys

When it's convenient.  Some people will say Emanuel Lewis or Alfonso, when they feel like it. 

I don't think he "liked" any of them.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 11:00:49 PM
n
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 05, 2019, 11:08:48 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on March 05, 2019, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 05, 2019, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/neverlandfacts/status/1103059020783378432
Michael only liked white boys.

The boy in 2005 was Mexican, love.

The 1993 boy was mixed/racially ambiguous.

So he didn't like Black boys

When it's convenient.  Some people will say Emanuel Lewis or Alfonso, when they feel like it. 

I don't think he "liked" any of them.
But not all pedophiles go after any and every child they come into contact with. That's like saying a straight male who has a record of raping women will rape every woman he sees..
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 11:10:40 PM
Ncjxnjxdjdn

yeah :plzstop:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 11:11:36 PM
Some are easier to be manipulated
some don't have the same protective parents
some kids actually might think they enjoy this behavior or think they are at fault

tons of reasons why some may have only remained friendly

but kii
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 05, 2019, 11:12:25 PM
I didn't say any child who crossed his path.  I thought we were talking about the ones he hung around and allowed to sleep over.  The ones he had easy access to potentially harm.

Have yall figured out our why Jordie couldn't accurately describe Mike's penis yet?  Because the grand jury couldn't figure it out either.  :diddraispoot:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 05, 2019, 11:16:12 PM
Michael was constantly morphing so it's very possible that his penis did too..
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 05, 2019, 11:17:48 PM
Not sure at 6 7 8 9 or 10 shit id remember how a dick looked

shit I don't remember how a dick looked from a few weeks ago 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 06, 2019, 07:27:39 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 05, 2019, 11:17:48 PM
Not sure at 6 7 8 9 or 10 shit id remember how a dick looked

shit I don't remember how a dick looked from a few weeks ago

Jordan was 13.  You couldn't tell circ' from uncirc'?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 06, 2019, 07:33:54 AM
Nah 
I didn't know the difference till I was grown 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 06, 2019, 07:34:06 AM
Wasn't seeing dicks at 13 sorr'
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 06, 2019, 07:34:39 AM
Gjhvhjh
not to mention you're telling these stories of everything else in detail 
but the actual dick you were in contact with you can't remember? Oh ok
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 06, 2019, 07:38:59 AM
Because ppl remember what they felt more than some details of a dick 
u think I remember how every ass hole looked or tasted?

no but I remember how it made it feel 
how we got to where we go to
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 06, 2019, 07:43:03 AM
We're not talking about EVERY anything 
were talking about children and MICHAEL JACKSON 
clearly unless they were just being passed around to multiple molesters
they probably had not seen a lot of dicks or had a lot of sex to be getting it mixed up 
so next excuse 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 06, 2019, 07:50:58 AM
So yeah they probably didnt notice he had a cap on his dick

especially since most uncut girls yank the skin back

leave the faggots to dissect fag shit, Ray
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 06, 2019, 07:58:04 AM
Im in here crying 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Blamblam on March 06, 2019, 08:15:17 AM
This man built a pedo palace and y'all still don't want to face the truth
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 06, 2019, 08:16:54 AM
Quote from: Blamblam on March 06, 2019, 08:15:17 AM
This man built a pedo palace and y'all still don't want to face the truth

So why wasn't he found guilty when he was alive?
Or after the FBI raided his entire "pedo palace"

make it make sense
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Blamblam on March 06, 2019, 08:22:04 AM
Quote from: Young on March 06, 2019, 08:16:54 AM
Quote from: Blamblam on March 06, 2019, 08:15:17 AM
This man built a pedo palace and y'all still don't want to face the truth

So why wasn't he found guilty when he was alive?
Or after the FBI raided his entire "pedo palace"

make it make sense

People get away with shit like this all the time, especially wealthy people.

R Kelly was acquitted before even though they had him on tape.  :hmph:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 06, 2019, 09:56:22 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 06, 2019, 07:50:58 AM
So yeah they probably didnt notice he had a cap on his dick

especially since most uncut girls yank the skin back

leave the faggots to dissect fag shit, Ray
having a dick isn't fag shit, and if I'm not mistaken neither is molestation hggjhhuhfvd
I can see them not noticing if maybe it was just 1 time but they were allegedly touched multiple times they should know what it looks like
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 06, 2019, 09:58:51 AM
n
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GRAND ETERNAL SUPREME on March 07, 2019, 06:53:41 AM
They're going to profit from this man forever huh
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 07, 2019, 07:33:07 AM
 :plzstop: "Attorney-client privilege."  Idiot.   :dead:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MichaelJackson/comments/ay42cx/?utm_content=body&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=f62583da5a4e4fcc9f452577bba88678&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=ay42cx
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 07, 2019, 09:23:34 AM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 06, 2019, 07:43:03 AM
We're not talking about EVERY anything
were talking about children and MICHAEL JACKSON
clearly unless they were just being passed around to multiple molesters
they probably had not seen a lot of dicks or had a lot of sex to be getting it mixed up
so next excuse
Ok?!
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 07, 2019, 09:23:57 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 06, 2019, 07:33:54 AM
Nah
I didn't know the difference till I was grown
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 07, 2019, 09:24:30 AM
Teenage dick connoisseur!

Guys. :uhh:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 07, 2019, 09:27:24 AM
Quote from: Blamblam on March 06, 2019, 08:15:17 AM
This man built a pedo palace and y'all still don't want to face the truth
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Vonc2002 on March 07, 2019, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: Blamblam on March 06, 2019, 08:15:17 AM
This man built a pedo palace and y'all still don't want to face the truth
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Admin on March 07, 2019, 01:02:12 PM
[youtube autoplay=1 start=26]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G0AksMCGK4[/youtube]
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 07, 2019, 04:24:29 PM
For the purposes of the trial, James was a non mf'in factor, it seems.  :roflmao:

Everything he said sounded like a lie.  The DA, Tom Sneddon, investigated Michael in 93 and prosecuted him in 05.  They only cared about the boys from the 93 era for possible abuse allegations made in the tabloids.  Jordan Chandler, Macauly Caulkin, Brett Barnes, and Wade Robson.  No one even mentioned James.  So why would Michael beg him to testify?  What would that prove?

Oh!  Here's a random boy from the 80's who can vouch from me!  :dead:

If he wanted to do that for some dumb reason, he could have asked Emanuel Lewis, Corey Feldman, or somebody else who was more high-profile. 

And it still doesn't make sense why you would want a man you had actually molested on the witness stand, especially when the prosecution didn't even mention him.  Tf?

Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: SouravMay on March 07, 2019, 04:26:20 PM
The last hour was really boring. Yawn
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Jon on March 07, 2019, 05:17:08 PM
Would any of you leave your child with him alone?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 07, 2019, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: Jonovan on March 07, 2019, 05:17:08 PM
Would any of you leave your child with him alone?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 07, 2019, 06:01:35 PM
Would anyone leave their kids with any grown men that they don't know?
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 07, 2019, 06:02:06 PM
Clearly these silly parents did
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: RAY7 on March 07, 2019, 06:03:30 PM
Smh greedy demons 
theyre lucky nothing actually did happen 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 07, 2019, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 07, 2019, 06:01:35 PM
Would anyone leave their kids with any grown men that they don't know?

!!!   :uhh:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 07, 2019, 06:32:43 PM
Oop, Grace is spilling tea.

QuoteOne of Michael Jackson's longest-serving employees has come forward to defend the late pop star, saying that in all the years she worked for Jackson she never witnessed, suspected or learned of any sexual abuse of children by the pop star.

In a lengthy statement released to ABC News, Grace Rwaramba – the former nanny to Jackson's children, Prince Michael I, Paris and Prince Michael II (known as 'Blanket'), who worked for Jackson for 17 years – described her former boss as hopelessly naïve to manipulation and incapable of hurting children.

"If Michael harmed Wade Robson and James Safechuck, they have my deepest sympathy and compassion," Rwaramba said in the statement, referring to the two men featured in the documentary. "I don't claim to know what happened between Michael and his accusers. I wasn't there.""However, because Michael is no longer here to defend himself, and because I have a unique view of him and the life he lived, I feel compelled to speak out against what I firmly believe to be false claims. The person that Wade and James describe is not the person that I knew."

"He was trusting to the point of extreme naivete; always assuming the best intentions in everyone," Rwaramba said of Jackson in the statement. "While he was far from perfect, in my over twelve years of living with Michael, knowing him and his lifestyle intimately, I never saw or experienced anything that led me to suspect that he was capable of child sexual abuse."

Rwaramba contended in her statement that there was an "army" of people working at Jackson's California ranch whenever the iconic artist was there, and that it would have been extremely difficult for the star to molest visiting children.

"I was at Neverland when many of the family friends would come and go," Rwaramba said in the statement. "At any given time, anywhere between 60 to 100 employees worked in security, maintenance, housekeeping, grounds, the kitchen, and many other roles. Maintaining the ranch in such immaculate shape took an entire army of workers that were always around."

"I know Wade Robson and his family well," Rwaramba said in the statement. "I first met Joy Robson back in the early 90s, when I was at MJJ Productions. In late 1994, I attended the release party of Wade's first album in California. I distinctly recall Joy running that event as though her life depended on it. After that release party, I didn't see the Robsons again until early 1997, when Wade joined several other families at Neverland after Prince was born."



"Over the years, I got to know the Robsons well as they visited the ranch on many different occasions," Rwaramba continued in the statement. "Neverland was an enchanting place where the butlers, cooks, maids, zookeepers, gardeners and other staff made every guest feel like royalty, and everyone person who was fortunate to visit loved it!"

"The one thing that was consistent about the Robsons over the years was Joy's steely resolve to turn Wade into a star," Rwaramba said in the statement. "When all the other kids, often including Michael, were off having water balloon fights or watching a movie in the theater, Joy would be drilling Wade on a dance move and every so often wave Michael over for some tips."

"On one such occasion, Michael sat next to me as I was watching Prince and we watched Wade practice under Joy's focused inspection. He said to me, "she reminds me of Joseph," referring to his father's obsession with perfection. Unbeknownst to Joy, that was her nickname. Michael had a nickname for everyone. This was the only time I ever heard him compare anyone to his father. Also, despite his complicated past with Joseph, he meant this observation as a compliment."

Rwaramba also claimed that Robson sought permission to hold his wedding at Neverland -– in the middle of Jackson's 2005 criminal trial, for which he was acquitted of all charges.

"The Robsons' ambition and self-interest knew no bounds," Rwaramba wrote in her statement. "Several months before Michael was acquitted on all charges on June 13, 2005, he came home from court and informed me that I should expect a call from Wade. When Wade called the ranch, security patched the call through to Paris's room where Michael and I spent most of our time preparing for the next day.

"I put him on speaker phone," Rwaramaba continued. "He informed me that Michael had advised him to contact me about whether he and his finance, Amanda, could have their wedding at Neverland in the fall. I was utterly shocked by how insensitive the request was; Michael was sitting next to me.

"'You know Grace, Neverland is so special to my family and me,' Wade continued," according to Rwaramba's statement. "'Michael has been like a father to me, and it would mean the world to us if Amanda and I could get married at Neverland.' I told Wade, this is not a good time, reminding him that Michael was in the middle of the fight for his life."

(MORE: VIDEO: A look at the final days of Michael Jackson's life)

"A few days later, I was in Santa Barbara running errands when Joy called with the same request. I had previously helped Wade gain permission to film a music video at Neverland, which was a big favor considering the strict no cameras policy. I remember responding with a stern 'do you seriously expect me to ask Michael, right now -- during the trial -- if you can use the ranch for Wade's wedding?'

"After a moment of awkward tension, she conceded and dropped off the phone," Rwaramaba wrote in the statement. "Why would someone who alleges to have been assaulted for over seven years want to have one of the most sacred events in his life on the same property where the attacks allegedly took place?'"

"What I can't understand is why Wade would continue to voluntarily and consistently return, and bring friends and loved ones, to a place that is the site of the alleged attacks well into his adult life?" Rwaramba said in the statement.

Rwaramba, a Rwandan national, began working as a personnel director and assistant to Jackson in 1992, and became a nanny to his children beginning in 1997, when Jackson's first child, Prince, was born.

"For twelve years, from 1997 to 2009, I was part of Michael's family ... I spent more time with Michael in the last twelve years of his life than anyone except his children."
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 07, 2019, 06:33:33 PM
My sis grace? 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: ssw4919 on March 07, 2019, 06:50:39 PM
Not Wade begging to have his wedding at Neverland.  :usureuok:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: oph. on March 07, 2019, 07:10:15 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 07, 2019, 06:03:30 PM
Smh greedy demons
theyre lucky nothing actually did happen
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4everSLAYanafan on March 07, 2019, 08:51:27 PM
Hold the fuck up... When Micheal got undressed you mean to tell me he looked like a brown, pink and white cow all over his body and not one of these kids speak on how that initially scared and traumatized the fuck out of them for life? :uhh:

Unfortunately I know people who have been molested starting at 4 years old and they remember what every part looked like and it was always uncomfortable it didn't "Feel Good".


How can a 10 year old boy keep an expensive wedding ring a secret from his parents? hell kids can't hold water.... and which one of Michael's brazilian lace wigs felt like Brillo pads? was he walking around wig-less??

:damselindistress: these stories....
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4everSLAYanafan on March 07, 2019, 08:51:58 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 07, 2019, 06:50:39 PM
Not Wade begging to have his wedding at Neverland.  :usureuok:

:wheresmylawyer:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: MelMel on March 07, 2019, 08:52:55 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 07, 2019, 06:33:33 PM
My sis grace?
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: 4everSLAYanafan on March 07, 2019, 08:54:46 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 07, 2019, 06:32:43 PM
Oop, Grace is spilling tea.

QuoteOne of Michael Jackson's longest-serving employees has come forward to defend the late pop star, saying that in all the years she worked for Jackson she never witnessed, suspected or learned of any sexual abuse of children by the pop star.

In a lengthy statement released to ABC News, Grace Rwaramba – the former nanny to Jackson's children, Prince Michael I, Paris and Prince Michael II (known as 'Blanket'), who worked for Jackson for 17 years – described her former boss as hopelessly naïve to manipulation and incapable of hurting children.

"If Michael harmed Wade Robson and James Safechuck, they have my deepest sympathy and compassion," Rwaramba said in the statement, referring to the two men featured in the documentary. "I don't claim to know what happened between Michael and his accusers. I wasn't there.""However, because Michael is no longer here to defend himself, and because I have a unique view of him and the life he lived, I feel compelled to speak out against what I firmly believe to be false claims. The person that Wade and James describe is not the person that I knew."

"He was trusting to the point of extreme naivete; always assuming the best intentions in everyone," Rwaramba said of Jackson in the statement. "While he was far from perfect, in my over twelve years of living with Michael, knowing him and his lifestyle intimately, I never saw or experienced anything that led me to suspect that he was capable of child sexual abuse."

Rwaramba contended in her statement that there was an "army" of people working at Jackson's California ranch whenever the iconic artist was there, and that it would have been extremely difficult for the star to molest visiting children.

"I was at Neverland when many of the family friends would come and go," Rwaramba said in the statement. "At any given time, anywhere between 60 to 100 employees worked in security, maintenance, housekeeping, grounds, the kitchen, and many other roles. Maintaining the ranch in such immaculate shape took an entire army of workers that were always around."

"I know Wade Robson and his family well," Rwaramba said in the statement. "I first met Joy Robson back in the early 90s, when I was at MJJ Productions. In late 1994, I attended the release party of Wade's first album in California. I distinctly recall Joy running that event as though her life depended on it. After that release party, I didn't see the Robsons again until early 1997, when Wade joined several other families at Neverland after Prince was born."



"Over the years, I got to know the Robsons well as they visited the ranch on many different occasions," Rwaramba continued in the statement. "Neverland was an enchanting place where the butlers, cooks, maids, zookeepers, gardeners and other staff made every guest feel like royalty, and everyone person who was fortunate to visit loved it!"

"The one thing that was consistent about the Robsons over the years was Joy's steely resolve to turn Wade into a star," Rwaramba said in the statement. "When all the other kids, often including Michael, were off having water balloon fights or watching a movie in the theater, Joy would be drilling Wade on a dance move and every so often wave Michael over for some tips."

"On one such occasion, Michael sat next to me as I was watching Prince and we watched Wade practice under Joy's focused inspection. He said to me, "she reminds me of Joseph," referring to his father's obsession with perfection. Unbeknownst to Joy, that was her nickname. Michael had a nickname for everyone. This was the only time I ever heard him compare anyone to his father. Also, despite his complicated past with Joseph, he meant this observation as a compliment."

Rwaramba also claimed that Robson sought permission to hold his wedding at Neverland -– in the middle of Jackson's 2005 criminal trial, for which he was acquitted of all charges.

"The Robsons' ambition and self-interest knew no bounds," Rwaramba wrote in her statement. "Several months before Michael was acquitted on all charges on June 13, 2005, he came home from court and informed me that I should expect a call from Wade. When Wade called the ranch, security patched the call through to Paris's room where Michael and I spent most of our time preparing for the next day.

"I put him on speaker phone," Rwaramaba continued. "He informed me that Michael had advised him to contact me about whether he and his finance, Amanda, could have their wedding at Neverland in the fall. I was utterly shocked by how insensitive the request was; Michael was sitting next to me.

"'You know Grace, Neverland is so special to my family and me,' Wade continued," according to Rwaramba's statement. "'Michael has been like a father to me, and it would mean the world to us if Amanda and I could get married at Neverland.' I told Wade, this is not a good time, reminding him that Michael was in the middle of the fight for his life."

(MORE: VIDEO: A look at the final days of Michael Jackson's life)

"A few days later, I was in Santa Barbara running errands when Joy called with the same request. I had previously helped Wade gain permission to film a music video at Neverland, which was a big favor considering the strict no cameras policy. I remember responding with a stern 'do you seriously expect me to ask Michael, right now -- during the trial -- if you can use the ranch for Wade's wedding?'
[/b]  :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
"After a moment of awkward tension, she conceded and dropped off the phone," Rwaramaba wrote in the statement. "Why would someone who alleges to have been assaulted for over seven years want to have one of the most sacred events in his life on the same property where the attacks allegedly took place?'"

"What I can't understand is why Wade would continue to voluntarily and consistently return, and bring friends and loved ones, to a place that is the site of the alleged attacks well into his adult life?" Rwaramba said in the statement.

Rwaramba, a Rwandan national, began working as a personnel director and assistant to Jackson in 1992, and became a nanny to his children beginning in 1997, when Jackson's first child, Prince, was born.

"For twelve years, from 1997 to 2009, I was part of Michael's family ... I spent more time with Michael in the last twelve years of his life than anyone except his children."
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: FlowerBomb on March 08, 2019, 09:20:27 AM
https://www.mjinnocent.com/
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 08, 2019, 09:29:14 AM
f
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: b7 on March 08, 2019, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: MelMel on March 07, 2019, 08:52:55 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 07, 2019, 06:33:33 PM
My sis grace?
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
C
C

C
Cc

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Where is ton', Baph and vonc  :kii:  not fucking Grace spitting out more facts
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: b7 on March 08, 2019, 09:43:43 AM
Tears

these people are despicable.  there are no similarities between this and R. Kelly, I'm sorry.  
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: African Queen on March 08, 2019, 09:49:07 AM
OKAY! These guys are not credible.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 08, 2019, 09:49:52 AM
Cvvvvcc these girls are telling the damn truth
it's crazy 
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Opposites Attract. on March 08, 2019, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 08, 2019, 09:49:52 AM
Cvvvvcc these girls aren't telling the damn truth
it's crazy
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 08, 2019, 10:01:47 AM
Quote from: WAVÉS. on March 08, 2019, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 08, 2019, 09:49:52 AM
Cvvvvcc these girls are telling the damn truth
it's crazy
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 13, 2019, 09:01:43 AM
I believe the one guy but I don't believe Wade. Since it was 2 parts, they should have told their stories separately.
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GRAND ETERNAL SUPREME on March 13, 2019, 09:08:28 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 07, 2019, 06:33:33 PM
My sis grace?
faggot there was no 400k
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Young on March 13, 2019, 09:10:10 AM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 07, 2019, 06:32:43 PM
Oop, Grace is spilling tea.

QuoteOne of Michael Jackson's longest-serving employees has come forward to defend the late pop star, saying that in all the years she worked for Jackson she never witnessed, suspected or learned of any sexual abuse of children by the pop star.

In a lengthy statement released to ABC News, Grace Rwaramba – the former nanny to Jackson's children, Prince Michael I, Paris and Prince Michael II (known as 'Blanket'), who worked for Jackson for 17 years – described her former boss as hopelessly naïve to manipulation and incapable of hurting children.

"If Michael harmed Wade Robson and James Safechuck, they have my deepest sympathy and compassion," Rwaramba said in the statement, referring to the two men featured in the documentary. "I don't claim to know what happened between Michael and his accusers. I wasn't there.""However, because Michael is no longer here to defend himself, and because I have a unique view of him and the life he lived, I feel compelled to speak out against what I firmly believe to be false claims. The person that Wade and James describe is not the person that I knew."

"He was trusting to the point of extreme naivete; always assuming the best intentions in everyone," Rwaramba said of Jackson in the statement. "While he was far from perfect, in my over twelve years of living with Michael, knowing him and his lifestyle intimately, I never saw or experienced anything that led me to suspect that he was capable of child sexual abuse."

Rwaramba contended in her statement that there was an "army" of people working at Jackson's California ranch whenever the iconic artist was there, and that it would have been extremely difficult for the star to molest visiting children.

"I was at Neverland when many of the family friends would come and go," Rwaramba said in the statement. "At any given time, anywhere between 60 to 100 employees worked in security, maintenance, housekeeping, grounds, the kitchen, and many other roles. Maintaining the ranch in such immaculate shape took an entire army of workers that were always around."

"I know Wade Robson and his family well," Rwaramba said in the statement. "I first met Joy Robson back in the early 90s, when I was at MJJ Productions. In late 1994, I attended the release party of Wade's first album in California. I distinctly recall Joy running that event as though her life depended on it. After that release party, I didn't see the Robsons again until early 1997, when Wade joined several other families at Neverland after Prince was born."



"Over the years, I got to know the Robsons well as they visited the ranch on many different occasions," Rwaramba continued in the statement. "Neverland was an enchanting place where the butlers, cooks, maids, zookeepers, gardeners and other staff made every guest feel like royalty, and everyone person who was fortunate to visit loved it!"

"The one thing that was consistent about the Robsons over the years was Joy's steely resolve to turn Wade into a star," Rwaramba said in the statement. "When all the other kids, often including Michael, were off having water balloon fights or watching a movie in the theater, Joy would be drilling Wade on a dance move and every so often wave Michael over for some tips."

"On one such occasion, Michael sat next to me as I was watching Prince and we watched Wade practice under Joy's focused inspection. He said to me, "she reminds me of Joseph," referring to his father's obsession with perfection. Unbeknownst to Joy, that was her nickname. Michael had a nickname for everyone. This was the only time I ever heard him compare anyone to his father. Also, despite his complicated past with Joseph, he meant this observation as a compliment."

Rwaramba also claimed that Robson sought permission to hold his wedding at Neverland -– in the middle of Jackson's 2005 criminal trial, for which he was acquitted of all charges.

"The Robsons' ambition and self-interest knew no bounds," Rwaramba wrote in her statement. "Several months before Michael was acquitted on all charges on June 13, 2005, he came home from court and informed me that I should expect a call from Wade. When Wade called the ranch, security patched the call through to Paris's room where Michael and I spent most of our time preparing for the next day.

"I put him on speaker phone," Rwaramaba continued. "He informed me that Michael had advised him to contact me about whether he and his finance, Amanda, could have their wedding at Neverland in the fall. I was utterly shocked by how insensitive the request was; Michael was sitting next to me.

"'You know Grace, Neverland is so special to my family and me,' Wade continued," according to Rwaramba's statement. "'Michael has been like a father to me, and it would mean the world to us if Amanda and I could get married at Neverland.' I told Wade, this is not a good time, reminding him that Michael was in the middle of the fight for his life."

(MORE: VIDEO: A look at the final days of Michael Jackson's life)

"A few days later, I was in Santa Barbara running errands when Joy called with the same request. I had previously helped Wade gain permission to film a music video at Neverland, which was a big favor considering the strict no cameras policy. I remember responding with a stern 'do you seriously expect me to ask Michael, right now -- during the trial -- if you can use the ranch for Wade's wedding?'

"After a moment of awkward tension, she conceded and dropped off the phone," Rwaramaba wrote in the statement. "Why would someone who alleges to have been assaulted for over seven years want to have one of the most sacred events in his life on the same property where the attacks allegedly took place?'"

"What I can't understand is why Wade would continue to voluntarily and consistently return, and bring friends and loved ones, to a place that is the site of the alleged attacks well into his adult life?" Rwaramba said in the statement.

Rwaramba, a Rwandan national, began working as a personnel director and assistant to Jackson in 1992, and became a nanny to his children beginning in 1997, when Jackson's first child, Prince, was born.

"For twelve years, from 1997 to 2009, I was part of Michael's family ... I spent more time with Michael in the last twelve years of his life than anyone except his children."
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: GLOCK on March 13, 2019, 09:25:22 AM
Quote from: tontonton on March 13, 2019, 09:08:28 AM
Quote from: Glock on March 07, 2019, 06:33:33 PM
My sis grace?
faggot there was no 400k
:uhh:
Title: Re: Leaving Neverland
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 13, 2019, 10:50:31 AM
Quote from: Young on March 13, 2019, 09:10:10 AM
Quote from: ssw4919 on March 07, 2019, 06:32:43 PM
Oop, Grace is spilling tea.

QuoteOne of Michael Jackson's longest-serving employees has come forward to defend the late pop star, saying that in all the years she worked for Jackson she never witnessed, suspected or learned of any sexual abuse of children by the pop star.

In a lengthy statement released to ABC News, Grace Rwaramba – the former nanny to Jackson's children, Prince Michael I, Paris and Prince Michael II (known as 'Blanket'), who worked for Jackson for 17 years – described her former boss as hopelessly naïve to manipulation and incapable of hurting children.

"If Michael harmed Wade Robson and James Safechuck, they have my deepest sympathy and compassion," Rwaramba said in the statement, referring to the two men featured in the documentary. "I don't claim to know what happened between Michael and his accusers. I wasn't there.""However, because Michael is no longer here to defend himself, and because I have a unique view of him and the life he lived, I feel compelled to speak out against what I firmly believe to be false claims. The person that Wade and James describe is not the person that I knew."

"He was trusting to the point of extreme naivete; always assuming the best intentions in everyone," Rwaramba said of Jackson in the statement. "While he was far from perfect, in my over twelve years of living with Michael, knowing him and his lifestyle intimately, I never saw or experienced anything that led me to suspect that he was capable of child sexual abuse."

Rwaramba contended in her statement that there was an "army" of people working at Jackson's California ranch whenever the iconic artist was there, and that it would have been extremely difficult for the star to molest visiting children.

"I was at Neverland when many of the family friends would come and go," Rwaramba said in the statement. "At any given time, anywhere between 60 to 100 employees worked in security, maintenance, housekeeping, grounds, the kitchen, and many other roles. Maintaining the ranch in such immaculate shape took an entire army of workers that were always around."

"I know Wade Robson and his family well," Rwaramba said in the statement. "I first met Joy Robson back in the early 90s, when I was at MJJ Productions. In late 1994, I attended the release party of Wade's first album in California. I distinctly recall Joy running that event as though her life depended on it. After that release party, I didn't see the Robsons again until early 1997, when Wade joined several other families at Neverland after Prince was born."



"Over the years, I got to know the Robsons well as they visited the ranch on many different occasions," Rwaramba continued in the statement. "Neverland was an enchanting place where the butlers, cooks, maids, zookeepers, gardeners and other staff made every guest feel like royalty, and everyone person who was fortunate to visit loved it!"

"The one thing that was consistent about the Robsons over the years was Joy's steely resolve to turn Wade into a star," Rwaramba said in the statement. "When all the other kids, often including Michael, were off having water balloon fights or watching a movie in the theater, Joy would be drilling Wade on a dance move and every so often wave Michael over for some tips."

"On one such occasion, Michael sat next to me as I was watching Prince and we watched Wade practice under Joy's focused inspection. He said to me, "she reminds me of Joseph," referring to his father's obsession with perfection. Unbeknownst to Joy, that was her nickname. Michael had a nickname for everyone. This was the only time I ever heard him compare anyone to his father. Also, despite his complicated past with Joseph, he meant this observation as a compliment."

Rwaramba also claimed that Robson sought permission to hold his wedding at Neverland -– in the middle of Jackson's 2005 criminal trial, for which he was acquitted of all charges.

"The Robsons' ambition and self-interest knew no bounds," Rwaramba wrote in her statement. "Several months before Michael was acquitted on all charges on June 13, 2005, he came home from court and informed me that I should expect a call from Wade. When Wade called the ranch, security patched the call through to Paris's room where Michael and I spent most of our time preparing for the next day.

"I put him on speaker phone," Rwaramaba continued. "He informed me that Michael had advised him to contact me about whether he and his finance, Amanda, could have their wedding at Neverland in the fall. I was utterly shocked by how insensitive the request was; Michael was sitting next to me.

"'You know Grace, Neverland is so special to my family and me,' Wade continued," according to Rwaramba's statement. "'Michael has been like a father to me, and it would mean the world to us if Amanda and I could get married at Neverland.' I told Wade, this is not a good time, reminding him that Michael was in the middle of the fight for his life."

(MORE: VIDEO: A look at the final days of Michael Jackson's life)

"A few days later, I was in Santa Barbara running errands when Joy called with the same request. I had previously helped Wade gain permission to film a music video at Neverland, which was a big favor considering the strict no cameras policy. I remember responding with a stern 'do you seriously expect me to ask Michael, right now -- during the trial -- if you can use the ranch for Wade's wedding?'

"After a moment of awkward tension, she conceded and dropped off the phone," Rwaramaba wrote in the statement. "Why would someone who alleges to have been assaulted for over seven years want to have one of the most sacred events in his life on the same property where the attacks allegedly took place?'"

"What I can't understand is why Wade would continue to voluntarily and consistently return, and bring friends and loved ones, to a place that is the site of the alleged attacks well into his adult life?" Rwaramba said in the statement.

Rwaramba, a Rwandan national, began working as a personnel director and assistant to Jackson in 1992, and became a nanny to his children beginning in 1997, when Jackson's first child, Prince, was born.

"For twelve years, from 1997 to 2009, I was part of Michael's family ... I spent more time with Michael in the last twelve years of his life than anyone except his children."
This Grace lady is loyal af. Taking secrets to the grave even!