https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE4Lo4TIc8Y
Mainly posted this because they mentioned Bran
but it's interesting
I disagree about the Martin thing, the Straight Outta Compton thing really surprised me
MTV?!?
:guys:
Yea I was definitely taken aback when I saw that it was from
MTV
wow
I like her
This was well put together. Werk MTV.
This was really well put together. Love the brandy mention.
i think she was right about the Martin thing.
Pam was viewed as very attractive to pretty much all guys besides Martin
and Gina was criticized for having a big head and no tits
I don't really see what the distinction really was tbh
This was good. I'm glad they said what's light or dark is relative depending on culture cause ciara ain't near lightskinned
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
Pam was viewed as very attractive to pretty much all guys besides Martin
and Gina was criticized for having a big head and no tits
I don't really see what the distinction really was tbh
!!!! People always try tf outta that
They were all teased and dragged on that show. that was the comedy
Even Martin began to have dreams that he wanted Pam sddd but she was desired by everyone
Pam maybe was considered pretty in black households but Gina was considered pretty to executives and that's why she was the lead girl............kinda What this whole video was about. She wasn't making a video based on the opinions of raheem and tyrone :dead:
Quote from: 1RIG on March 14, 2019, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
Pam was viewed as very attractive to pretty much all guys besides Martin
and Gina was criticized for having a big head and no tits
I don't really see what the distinction really was tbh
!!!! People always try tf outta that
They were all teased and dragged on that show. that was the comedy
Even Martin began to have dreams that he wanted Pam sddd but she was desired by everyone
Everybody was made fun of but gina's attractiveness was never called into question. Let's not act like black men don't shit on the dark skinned black woman all the time. That's why I will NEVER listen to kodak black. When I heard that dumb shit he said he was cancelled immediately
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 14, 2019, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
Pam was viewed as very attractive to pretty much all guys besides Martin
and Gina was criticized for having a big head and no tits
I don't really see what the distinction really was tbh
!!!! People always try tf outta that
They were all teased and dragged on that show. that was the comedy
Even Martin began to have dreams that he wanted Pam sddd but she was desired by everyone
Everybody was made fun of but gina's attractiveness was never called into question. Let's not act like black men don't shit on the dark skinned black woman all the time. That's why I will NEVER listen to kodak black. When I heard that dumb shit he said he was cancelled immediately
Gina's attractiveness definitely came into question when Martin was lusting over Kenya Moore (dark skinned) and saying he wished Gina was fine like her
Pam's attractiveness was seen on the show as just as high as Gina
Ok
:dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 05:37:00 PM
Pam maybe was considered pretty in black households but Gina was considered pretty to executives and that's why she was the lead girl............kinda What this whole video was about. She wasn't making a video based on the opinions of raheem and tyrone :dead:
first of all Martin and Tisha actually knew each other prior to the show from Boomerang and House Party and Martin chose her THATS why she was the lead and Pam auditioned at the request of Tisha
But this girl didn't mention what households liked who she was talking about their depictions on the show and how Martin was always dogging her
Ok :dead:
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 14, 2019, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
Pam was viewed as very attractive to pretty much all guys besides Martin
and Gina was criticized for having a big head and no tits
I don't really see what the distinction really was tbh
!!!! People always try tf outta that
They were all teased and dragged on that show. that was the comedy
Even Martin began to have dreams that he wanted Pam sddd but she was desired by everyone
Everybody was made fun of but gina's attractiveness was never called into question. Let's not act like black men don't shit on the dark skinned black woman all the time. That's why I will NEVER listen to kodak black. When I heard that dumb shit he said he was cancelled immediately
Gina's attractiveness definitely came into question when Martin was lusting over Kenya Moore (dark skinned) and saying he wished Gina was fine like her
Pam's attractiveness was seen on the show as just as high as Gina
Praise ha!!
:oof:
Quote from: BowDown on March 14, 2019, 05:51:18 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 14, 2019, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
Pam was viewed as very attractive to pretty much all guys besides Martin
and Gina was criticized for having a big head and no tits
I don't really see what the distinction really was tbh
!!!! People always try tf outta that
They were all teased and dragged on that show. that was the comedy
Even Martin began to have dreams that he wanted Pam sddd but she was desired by everyone
Everybody was made fun of but gina's attractiveness was never called into question. Let's not act like black men don't shit on the dark skinned black woman all the time. That's why I will NEVER listen to kodak black. When I heard that dumb shit he said he was cancelled immediately
Gina's attractiveness definitely came into question when Martin was lusting over Kenya Moore (dark skinned) and saying he wished Gina was fine like her
Pam's attractiveness was seen on the show as just as high as Gina
Praise ha!!
:oof:
Kenya been an irrelevant girl her whole "career" huh
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 05:52:40 PM
Quote from: BowDown on March 14, 2019, 05:51:18 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 14, 2019, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
Pam was viewed as very attractive to pretty much all guys besides Martin
and Gina was criticized for having a big head and no tits
I don't really see what the distinction really was tbh
!!!! People always try tf outta that
They were all teased and dragged on that show. that was the comedy
Even Martin began to have dreams that he wanted Pam sddd but she was desired by everyone
Everybody was made fun of but gina's attractiveness was never called into question. Let's not act like black men don't shit on the dark skinned black woman all the time. That's why I will NEVER listen to kodak black. When I heard that dumb shit he said he was cancelled immediately
Gina's attractiveness definitely came into question when Martin was lusting over Kenya Moore (dark skinned) and saying he wished Gina was fine like her
Pam's attractiveness was seen on the show as just as high as Gina
Praise ha!!
:oof:
Kenya been booked her whole career huh
Yep. A working actress lmao! Has Creonta won any cases lately? Or.. ever?
Wasn't Gina's head or forehead always a joke
cant remember
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 05:37:00 PM
Pam maybe was considered pretty in black households but Gina was considered pretty to executives and that's why she was the lead girl............kinda What this whole video was about. She wasn't making a video based on the opinions of raheem and tyrone :dead:
!!!!
You have been kinda preaching lately lolz
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 14, 2019, 05:57:31 PM
Wasn't Gina's head or forehead always a joke
cant remember
But Pam was often called ugly by Martin looking like a dog or being made fun of cause of her wigs and weaves. It's a bit different imo ... I don't remember Gina ever being called ugly
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 14, 2019, 05:57:31 PM
Wasn't Gina's head or forehead always a joke
cant remember
They joked about her head (and even that was few and far between) but that doesn't mean they questioned her attractiveness. She's never been likened to dogs, horses, or any other animal. Calling someone out about a "flaw" isn't calling them ugly. Many people have called rihanna out for having a big forehead that's NOT calling her unattractive
Quote from: Jussie Lying on March 14, 2019, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 14, 2019, 05:57:31 PM
Wasn't Gina's head or forehead always a joke
cant remember
But Pam was often called ugly by Martin looking like a dog or being made fun of cause of her wigs and weaves. It's a bit different imo ... I don't remember Gina ever being called ugly
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 14, 2019, 05:57:31 PM
Wasn't Gina's head or forehead always a joke
cant remember
yep, her head in general was big
even had a whole episode about it being stuck in the bed frame
and she had no boobs and was teased about that
Quote from: Jussie Lying on March 14, 2019, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 14, 2019, 05:57:31 PM
Wasn't Gina's head or forehead always a joke
cant remember
But Pam was often called ugly by Martin looking like a dog or being made fun of cause of her wigs and weaves. It's a bit different imo ... I don't remember Gina ever being called ugly
that was ONLY Martin and they went back and forth she called him short, ugly, big ears etc
but still in a few episodes Martin lusted over her
She was not generally perceived as ugly or less attractive
Quote from: messy kitty on March 14, 2019, 06:34:21 PM
Tichina did an interview a while back for BET I believe, and she knew herself why she always happened to be cast as the funny sidekick, or the loud and ghetto girl, etc. She seemed very aware, which probably helped her in sustaining a good career - by knowing which roles she'd be a shoe-in for and which roles not to even waste time auditioning for.
Martin definitely made a lot of cracks about Pam's appearance, usually comparing her to animals, and always made references to the "buckshots" or "beady beads" under her weave, as if Gina's hair was naturally relaxed or something.
There was definitely underlying colorism in Martin.
Of course there was and anyone with sense gets that :dead:
Incidentally Tichina was the lead in Everybody Hates Chris
and Tisha was the "other one"
hmm
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 14, 2019, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
Pam was viewed as very attractive to pretty much all guys besides Martin
and Gina was criticized for having a big head and no tits
I don't really see what the distinction really was tbh
!!!! People always try tf outta that
They were all teased and dragged on that show. that was the comedy
Even Martin began to have dreams that he wanted Pam sddd but she was desired by everyone
Everybody was made fun of but gina's attractiveness was never called into question. Let's not act like black men don't shit on the dark skinned black woman all the time. That's why I will NEVER listen to kodak black. When I heard that dumb shit he said he was cancelled immediately
well this is true about black men, i just the Martin example may not be the best one. And when i day Pam was desired, i meant
within the show, not random niggas opinions outside of it.
Quote from: 1RIG on March 14, 2019, 06:43:21 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 14, 2019, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
Pam was viewed as very attractive to pretty much all guys besides Martin
and Gina was criticized for having a big head and no tits
I don't really see what the distinction really was tbh
!!!! People always try tf outta that
They were all teased and dragged on that show. that was the comedy
Even Martin began to have dreams that he wanted Pam sddd but she was desired by everyone
Everybody was made fun of but gina's attractiveness was never called into question. Let's not act like black men don't shit on the dark skinned black woman all the time. That's why I will NEVER listen to kodak black. When I heard that dumb shit he said he was cancelled immediately
well this is true about black men, i just the Martin example may not be the best one. And when i day Pam was desired, i meant within the show, not random niggas opinions outside of it.
exactly, ppl definitely were very attracted to Pam including Martin at times on the show
Quote from: 1RIG on March 14, 2019, 06:43:21 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 14, 2019, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
Pam was viewed as very attractive to pretty much all guys besides Martin
and Gina was criticized for having a big head and no tits
I don't really see what the distinction really was tbh
!!!! People always try tf outta that
They were all teased and dragged on that show. that was the comedy
Even Martin began to have dreams that he wanted Pam sddd but she was desired by everyone
Everybody was made fun of but gina's attractiveness was never called into question. Let's not act like black men don't shit on the dark skinned black woman all the time. That's why I will NEVER listen to kodak black. When I heard that dumb shit he said he was cancelled immediately
well this is true about black men, i just the Martin example may not be the best one. And when i day Pam was desired, i meant within the show, not random niggas opinions outside of it.
Pam was always single in the show really. I mean yea Jerome wanted her or whatever but Pam wasn't like fawned over on that show. There was definitely colorism all in play
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 06:28:57 PM
Quote from: Jussie Lying on March 14, 2019, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 14, 2019, 05:57:31 PM
Wasn't Gina's head or forehead always a joke
cant remember
But Pam was often called ugly by Martin looking like a dog or being made fun of cause of her wigs and weaves. It's a bit different imo ... I don't remember Gina ever being called ugly
that was ONLY Martin and they went back and forth she called him short, ugly, big ears etc
but still in a few episodes Martin lusted over her
She was not generally perceived as ugly or less attractive
well martin was the lead actor lol .. and it was OFTEN.. now whether he actually meant to do it cause she was dark is another story but yeahh this whole video is correct
Pam and Tommy were a couple for a minute
she got married to the Hispanic guy Luis
she dated Keith Sweat's character
but yea NO ONE wanted Pam
Quote from: Jussie Lying on March 14, 2019, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 06:28:57 PM
Quote from: Jussie Lying on March 14, 2019, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: Chokeme Politely on March 14, 2019, 05:57:31 PM
Wasn't Gina's head or forehead always a joke
cant remember
But Pam was often called ugly by Martin looking like a dog or being made fun of cause of her wigs and weaves. It's a bit different imo ... I don't remember Gina ever being called ugly
that was ONLY Martin and they went back and forth she called him short, ugly, big ears etc
but still in a few episodes Martin lusted over her
She was not generally perceived as ugly or less attractive
well martin was the lead actor lol .. and it was OFTEN.. now whether he actually meant to do it cause she was dark is another story but yeahh this whole video is correct
RIGHT!!!!!!!!! :plzstop:
Him calling her ugly was what the narrative was supposed to be.
Gina's friend who Martin thought was into her actually ended up saying he was only around Gina to get to Pam
Martin accidentally married Pam
David Alan Grier the preacher wanted Pam even though they were cousin
Yep lonely Pam
Quote from: messy kitty on March 14, 2019, 06:52:16 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 06:39:16 PM
Incidentally Tichina was the lead in Everybody Hates Chris
and Tisha was the "other one"
hmm
Yeah she was the lead, playing the role of a ghetto mom in the hood who loved yelling loudly, threatening her kids with violence and walking into the streets with a bonnet on her head to get groceries.
I mean if you ask Tichina directly she'll definitely tell you about how and why she was cast in certain roles.
But she didn't/doesn't take things personally. She simply took it as a business and found a way to work within the the confinements she was automatically given based on her appearance. That's why she's been so successful IMO. Didn't waste too much time whining about something that was/is completely out of her control.
You should watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrSqDrApYN8
ALLL THIS!!!!!! She wasn't the lead and some desirable ass black woman. Like :dead:
I watched that uncensored btw and even to 'china knew what was up
Quote from: messy kitty on March 14, 2019, 06:52:16 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 06:39:16 PM
Incidentally Tichina was the lead in Everybody Hates Chris
and Tisha was the "other one"
hmm
Yeah she was the lead, playing the role of a ghetto mom in the hood who loved yelling loudly, threatening her kids with violence and walking into the streets with a bonnet on her head to get groceries.
I mean if you ask Tichina directly she'll definitely tell you about how and why she was cast in certain roles.
But she didn't/doesn't take things personally. She simply took it as a business and found a way to work within the the confinements she was automatically given based on her appearance. That's why she's been so successful IMO. Didn't waste too much time whining about something that was/is completely out of her control.
You should watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrSqDrApYN8
I saw it
I wouldn't say she's never experienced colorism but with Martin and Tisha that's just not the case
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 06:55:07 PM
Gina's friend who Martin thought was into her actually ended up saying he was only around Gina to get to Pam
Martin accidentally married Pam
David Alan Grier the preacher wanted Pam even though they were cousin
Yep lonely Pam
its not about her being lonely :plzstop:
its about her being dark skinned and always called names and being referred to as UGLY and it never happening to gina who is light ...
Rays perception is special, yawls just wasting yawls time
Quote from: Jussie Lying on March 14, 2019, 07:04:13 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 06:55:07 PM
Gina's friend who Martin thought was into her actually ended up saying he was only around Gina to get to Pam
Martin accidentally married Pam
David Alan Grier the preacher wanted Pam even though they were cousin
Yep lonely Pam
its not about her being lonely :plzstop:
its about her being dark skinned and always called names and being referred to as UGLY and it never happening to gina who is light ...
Nick I can't believe even u get it :dead:
Yea because Pam actually looked BETTER than Gina so her attractiveness should've never been in question. Pam was not some desired girl and the narrative the show painted was actually that she was UNDESIRABLE.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 14, 2019, 07:08:01 PM
Quote from: Jussie Lying on March 14, 2019, 07:04:13 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 06:55:07 PM
Gina's friend who Martin thought was into her actually ended up saying he was only around Gina to get to Pam
Martin accidentally married Pam
David Alan Grier the preacher wanted Pam even though they were cousin
Yep lonely Pam
its not about her being lonely :plzstop:
its about her being dark skinned and always called names and being referred to as UGLY and it never happening to gina who is light ...
Nick I can't believe even u get it :dead:
Yea because Pam actually looked BETTER than Gina so her attractiveness should've never been in question. Pam was not some desired girl and the narrative the show painted was actually that she was UNDESIRABLE.
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i like to play around a bit on here with yall cause its fun but i do get it ... im just more sensitive when it comes to black women cause they get it the worst also yeah pam was def better looking than gina! i remember watching it as a kid and thinking why was he so mean to her when she slayed his own wife lol
Quote from: Jussie Lying on March 14, 2019, 07:04:13 PM
Quote from: 89 on March 14, 2019, 06:55:07 PM
Gina's friend who Martin thought was into her actually ended up saying he was only around Gina to get to Pam
Martin accidentally married Pam
David Alan Grier the preacher wanted Pam even though they were cousin
Yep lonely Pam
its not about her being lonely :plzstop:
its about her being dark skinned and always called names and being referred to as UGLY and it never happening to gina who is light ...
that comment was about Lavon saying Pam was always single
when that's a lie and she had MULTIPLE love interests
also that the only 1 out of all men on that show calling her ugly (and he didn't even use "ugly" often) is Martin
In general men found her attractive and desirable on the show