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[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to. it's a choice. and its a double standard. nothing is changing that fact.

Based on what? Oprah is a woman 

i coulda swore his argument was double standards based on gender

dsddsdssd especially from what i remember last time we had this convo

i gave him an example of Oprah getting away with all types of tea and now im confused

[klappa.]

Those differences have to play a part in the way we accept him back.

those "differences" are nothing more than attempts to justify a double standard, tbh

No they aren't.

The acceptance of an entertainer back into our households is solely reliant on what they are feeding us with for that is the measure by which we value them......... because they are entertainers. That's why I made the distinction between accepting an apology and leaving it there, and allowing a disgraced entertainer to prosper again. Chrisette isnt worried about you or me accepting her apology. She's questioning why she doesn't have a seat at that table anymore, but Kanye does. And the obvious answer is what have you done for us lately?

all you did here was explain WHY you support the double standard.

also kanye apologized ?

[L0NZ.]

someone's influence/power does matter

kanye is so talented, i have NO CHOICE but to forgive him

nah

Oh girl, nobody said that.

[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

oph let me clarify this

ur argument is based on gender right?

ur saying it seems black men seem to get away with a tea while the black women do not?

i think i remember being ur stance last time we had this convo...just checking in to make sure im on the same page with you in here.

if not gender, what is the double standard ur referring to specifically?

[L0NZ.]

Those differences have to play a part in the way we accept him back.

those "differences" are nothing more than attempts to justify a double standard, tbh

No they aren't.

The acceptance of an entertainer back into our households is solely reliant on what they are feeding us with for that is the measure by which we value them......... because they are entertainers. That's why I made the distinction between accepting an apology and leaving it there, and allowing a disgraced entertainer to prosper again. Chrisette isnt worried about you or me accepting her apology. She's questioning why she doesn't have a seat at that table anymore, but Kanye does. And the obvious answer is what have you done for us lately?

all you did here was explain WHY you support the double standard.

also kanye apologized ?

You don't make any sense, I used specific names not any pronouns. A popular and undeniable female artist could also very well redeem themselves in the same manner  . Nowhere in my statement did I say that wasn't a possibility

all you did was! double standard! boy gone.

[L0NZ.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to. it's a choice. and its a double standard. nothing is changing that fact.

Based on what? Oprah is a woman 

i coulda swore his argument was double standards based on gender

dsddsdssd especially from what i remember last time we had this convo

i gave him an example of Oprah getting away with all types of tea and now im confused

because he is. hhhhhhhhhh

[klappa.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to. it's a choice. and its a double standard. nothing is changing that fact.

Based on what? Oprah is a woman 

popularity? yall realize gender ain't the only way double standards can be exercised, right ?

i haven't mentioned gender in this thread ONCE

[L0NZ.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to.

i thought the gorls were wondering why kanye is still thriving

no we weren't. we know its a double standard.

double standard based on gender?

popularity. gender plays a part as well.

so, clout? After you just said clout has no relevance to what you're talking about.

So what are you even talking about?

[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to. it's a choice. and its a double standard. nothing is changing that fact.

Based on what? Oprah is a woman 

popularity? yall realize gender ain't the only way double standards can be exercised, right ?

i haven't mentioned gender in this thread ONCE

well it's not unreasonable to conclude ur referencing gender when u compare a male to a female and mention a double standard.

and u kinda left plenty of room to do so since u didn't specify anything else. what is the double standard u are referring to specifically?

clarify your point luv

[klappa.]

Those differences have to play a part in the way we accept him back.

those "differences" are nothing more than attempts to justify a double standard, tbh

No they aren't.

The acceptance of an entertainer back into our households is solely reliant on what they are feeding us with for that is the measure by which we value them......... because they are entertainers. That's why I made the distinction between accepting an apology and leaving it there, and allowing a disgraced entertainer to prosper again. Chrisette isnt worried about you or me accepting her apology. She's questioning why she doesn't have a seat at that table anymore, but Kanye does. And the obvious answer is what have you done for us lately?

all you did here was explain WHY you support the double standard.

also kanye apologized ?

You don't make any sense, I used specific names not any pronouns. A popular and undeniable female artist could also very well redeem themselves in the same manner  . Nowhere in my statement did I say that wasn't a possibility

all you did was! double standard! boy gone.

boy you not even understanding what im saying

i ain't said nothing about what a female artist could or could do hypothetically

im saying that what is HAPPENING is a double standard.

oh kanye make good music so hes forgive but christette aint giving shit si throw ha away.

OR

oh kanye make good music so hes forgive but stacey, whats the last thing she played in. throw ha away.

THOSE are double standards. period. kanye aint even apologize, the other two at least tried.im really not seeing whats confusing about this.

[klappa.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to. it's a choice. and its a double standard. nothing is changing that fact.

Based on what? Oprah is a woman 

popularity? yall realize gender ain't the only way double standards can be exercised, right ?

i haven't mentioned gender in this thread ONCE

well it's not unreasonab--

u made an assumption and u were wrong. got it, no worries bby

[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to. it's a choice. and its a double standard. nothing is changing that fact.

Based on what? Oprah is a woman 

popularity? yall realize gender ain't the only way double standards can be exercised, right ?

i haven't mentioned gender in this thread ONCE

well it's not unreasonab--

u made an assumption and u were wrong. got it, no worries bby

ok oph.

[klappa.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to.

i thought the gorls were wondering why kanye is still thriving

no we weren't. we know its a double standard.

double standard based on gender?

popularity. gender plays a part as well.

so, clout? After you just said clout has no relevance to what you're talking about.

So what are you even talking about?

incorrect. i said rich people doing what they want because they have money has no relevance to what im talking about

so what are YOU even talking about?

[klappa.]

i think ur real concern really should be why people with lots of money and power get to do what they want.

that's always a concern of mine, but has no relevance to the topic i presented

for anyone needing a refresher

[L0NZ.]

someone's influence/power does matter

only if u allow it to. it's a choice. and its a double standard. nothing is changing that fact.

Based on what? Oprah is a woman 

popularity? yall realize gender ain't the only way double standards can be exercised, right ?

i haven't mentioned gender in this thread ONCE

You're ducking and dodging. But I'll entertain this, too.

When you said

those "differences" are nothing more than attempts to justify a double standard, tbh

And if you're now claiming the double standard is "clout", then why would I need to justify it?  The differences I listed were an artist's propensity to persevere and work hard to become accepted into our homes again. Popularity, brand, and clout play a major part in that as well. So if we're talking about Kanye West vs. Chrisette fkn Michelle...... that's not a double standard it just... IS.

To flourish as an entertainer you HAVE to be popular/have clout There's noting that needs to be justified, it's a fkn logical requirement. You're literally just talking to be talking right now.