Travis facing pressure to pay for fans’ funerals

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RAY7

Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:13:32 PM
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Quote from: Marilyn on November 07, 2021, 07:18:31 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 10:54:02 AM
He or his mom, somebody paid for this concert. If neither of them have any money in savings or anything he shouldn't have even been at that concert. I find it hard to believe between them they're really that bad off

That was some dumb ass shit to say.  I'm not rich and damn sure treated myself to two seafood boils this week. Just because people ain't rich or have 10 bands stacked away for a funeral don't mean they can't enjoy life's special moments like concerts, theater, tours, sports events, vacationing, etc. This is the equivalent of "Why do you have a designer bag but have a food stamo card?" You don't know if that shit was gifted or discounted at Marshalls or purchased at better times. You don't know what the fuck is going on. Him going to that concert don't have shit to do with the family not affording a funeral.
10 bands? Are y'all really from some places where everyone gets cremated except the top 1%? Funerals are not that expensive you don't have to be rich to have one
Whether it costs 10k or not, the rest of her point still stands.
No mother is saving up money to bury her own children, and whether she had savings or not is besides the point.
Her child died at the hands of someone else's reckless, she deserves financial compensation for that, at the VERY least.
We're forgetting all the little variables that happen in life
Is she in debt?
Does she work? Is she disabled? Was her son the breadwinner in the family?
Like have some compassion and empathy
She's not asking the YOU to foot her sons funeral bill, just the rich reckless individuals that facilitated her sons death.
They'll be ok.
This situation looks like her child died and she's not placing the blame on the celebrity for his death but is asking for money just because she knows he has it
and even if that's what it looks like, she's entitled to it.
I disagree

Dr Naomi Campbell

Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 08:17:45 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 08:12:12 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:44:32 PM
Quote from: Marilyn on November 07, 2021, 07:18:31 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 10:54:02 AM
He or his mom, somebody paid for this concert. If neither of them have any money in savings or anything he shouldn't have even been at that concert. I find it hard to believe between them they're really that bad off

That was some dumb ass shit to say.  I'm not rich and damn sure treated myself to two seafood boils this week. Just because people ain't rich or have 10 bands stacked away for a funeral don't mean they can't enjoy life's special moments like concerts, theater, tours, sports events, vacationing, etc. This is the equivalent of "Why do you have a designer bag but have a food stamo card?" You don't know if that shit was gifted or discounted at Marshalls or purchased at better times. You don't know what the fuck is going on. Him going to that concert don't have shit to do with the family not affording a funeral.
10 bands? Are y'all really from some places where everyone gets cremated except the top 1%? Funerals are not that expensive you don't have to be rich to have one
Whether it costs 10k or not, the rest of her point still stands.
No mother is saving up money to bury her own children, and whether she had savings or not is besides the point.
Her child died at the hands of someone else's reckless, she deserves financial compensation for that, at the VERY least.
We're forgetting all the little variables that happen in life
Is she in debt?
Does she work? Is she disabled? Was her son the breadwinner in the family?
Like have some compassion and empathy
She's not asking the YOU to foot her sons funeral bill, just the rich reckless individuals that facilitated her sons death.
They'll be ok.
This situation looks like her child died and she's not placing the blame on the celebrity for his death but is asking for money just because she knows he has it
and even if that's what it looks like, she's entitled to it.
I disagree
well lucky she's not asking your approval

ATLien

Quote from: Israel on November 07, 2021, 08:10:08 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: Israel on November 07, 2021, 07:48:51 PM
ray, luv. the first post u made in here about the mom being able to afford to send her child to a concert but not being able to pay for a funeral

can u at least admit u got off on the wrong foot by assuming she paid for the ticket and not even knowing that?

Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 10:05:28 AM
N
ppl are really trash. Y'all had money to send him to that concert but now y'all can't pay for a funeral?
God Bless

maybe there were some other points you made which were valid, but u completely got off on the wrong foot IMO

even if she did pay for the ticket that doesn't say much about anything else tbh, but you kicked things off with a baseless assumption.
we're all assuming though. I guess it's better to assume she's a broke destitute out of work single mom? I like to usually think positive and see the good in ppl, but just in this instance I don't see it and am assuming the worst. Hope I'm wrong
yes I began presenting other possibilities because i was kinda forced to.
to simply counter your reasoning for concluding this woman is "trash".

and even when i presented my own ideas, i watched my wording. i didn't state it as fact. i said things like "it's possible", "chances are...". this is the language you use when ur not sure of something but want to present other possibilities to defend someone.

the problem here with what u started with is that your entire argument wasn't based on a fact. that in itself left u standing on one leg.

does that make sense?
ray? :usureuok:
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klappa.

Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:08:41 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:02:35 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on November 07, 2021, 07:59:36 PM
I'm seeing a big lawsuits and charges coming his way.

They're gonna throw the book at his ass.

vbvbvvvvvvvvv

hope yall not holding ur breath for this

It's already happening

QuoteTravis Scott and the organisers of the Astroworld event that left eight people dead have been sued by an injured concertgoer who branded it a "predictable and preventable tragedy."

Lawyers for Manuel Souza filed a petition in Harris County District Court suing Scott, event organiser ScoreMore and concert giant Live Nation over the Friday night incident, according to Billboard.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/astroworld-festival-travis-scott-deaths-update-b1952917.html%3Famp

def referring to the outcome. anyone can FILE one vvcccc
girl you literally just said not to expect lawsuits and charges coming his way  :dead:
An

ok and i clarified because obviously there was gonna be somebody out there that TRIED to sue

not hard to follow

u just said !

:dead:

Dr Naomi Campbell

Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:23:15 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:08:41 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:02:35 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on November 07, 2021, 07:59:36 PM
I'm seeing a big lawsuits and charges coming his way.

They're gonna throw the book at his ass.

vbvbvvvvvvvvv

hope yall not holding ur breath for this

It's already happening

QuoteTravis Scott and the organisers of the Astroworld event that left eight people dead have been sued by an injured concertgoer who branded it a "predictable and preventable tragedy."

Lawyers for Manuel Souza filed a petition in Harris County District Court suing Scott, event organiser ScoreMore and concert giant Live Nation over the Friday night incident, according to Billboard.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/astroworld-festival-travis-scott-deaths-update-b1952917.html%3Famp

def referring to the outcome. anyone can FILE one vvcccc
girl you literally just said not to expect lawsuits and charges coming his way  :dead:
An

ok and i clarified because obviously there was gonna be somebody out there that TRIED to sue

not hard to follow

u just said !

:dead:
gorl it wouldn't had been "hard to follow" if you were clear the first time perhaps? Lol
only going off what you said
Not my fault if you want to move goalposts all of a sudden
Anyways he's currently in court from the first time this happened and it's looking more and more likely he'll have to pay out.

klappa.

Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 08:15:31 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:07:39 PM
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Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:01:32 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 07:57:40 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:44:32 PM
Quote from: Marilyn on November 07, 2021, 07:18:31 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 10:54:02 AM
He or his mom, somebody paid for this concert. If neither of them have any money in savings or anything he shouldn't have even been at that concert. I find it hard to believe between them they're really that bad off

That was some dumb ass shit to say.  I'm not rich and damn sure treated myself to two seafood boils this week. Just because people ain't rich or have 10 bands stacked away for a funeral don't mean they can't enjoy life's special moments like concerts, theater, tours, sports events, vacationing, etc. This is the equivalent of "Why do you have a designer bag but have a food stamo card?" You don't know if that shit was gifted or discounted at Marshalls or purchased at better times. You don't know what the fuck is going on. Him going to that concert don't have shit to do with the family not affording a funeral.
10 bands? Are y'all really from some places where everyone gets cremated except the top 1%? Funerals are not that expensive you don't have to be rich to have one

this is how you know ray has literally no idea what he's talking about

fggggfffffffff



:plzstop:
you didn't post anything that contradicted anything I said :plzstop:

Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:58:40 PM
Funerals are not that expensive

truly a new level of dumb

:omf:


exactly because you posted numbers that are not that high
and that was the AVERAGE not the minimum

so almost 8,000 to 10,000 for funeral costs is "not that high" huh

ggffgfffdfxfccvdccccvdccvxcccccvcvv

truly a new level of dumb

:omf:
well way to round UP and skip the part that those are "the average" and not the minimum
YOURE dumb

the "average" is what MOST people pay u blithering idiot lmfaoooooooooooooo

ur stupidity is almost exciting. like.... how is he gonna make a fool of himself NEXT

:plzstop:

klappa.

Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:25:50 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:23:15 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:08:41 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:02:35 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on November 07, 2021, 07:59:36 PM
I'm seeing a big lawsuits and charges coming his way.

They're gonna throw the book at his ass.

vbvbvvvvvvvvv

hope yall not holding ur breath for this

It's already happening

QuoteTravis Scott and the organisers of the Astroworld event that left eight people dead have been sued by an injured concertgoer who branded it a "predictable and preventable tragedy."

Lawyers for Manuel Souza filed a petition in Harris County District Court suing Scott, event organiser ScoreMore and concert giant Live Nation over the Friday night incident, according to Billboard.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/astroworld-festival-travis-scott-deaths-update-b1952917.html%3Famp

def referring to the outcome. anyone can FILE one vvcccc
girl you literally just said not to expect lawsuits and charges coming his way  :dead:
An

ok and i clarified because obviously there was gonna be somebody out there that TRIED to sue

not hard to follow

u just said !

:dead:
gorl it wouldn't had been "hard to follow" if you were clear the first time perhaps? Lol
only going off what you said
Not my fault if you want to move goalposts all of a sudden
Anyways he's currently in court from the first time this happened and it's looking more and more likely he'll have to pay out.

jayd... shut up. lmfao. u clearly just wanna argue. didn't we agree to disagree some pages back? yea let's get back to that lolz

👍🏾

Nine

Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:02:35 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on November 07, 2021, 07:59:36 PM
I'm seeing a big lawsuits and charges coming his way.

They're gonna throw the book at his ass.

vbvbvvvvvvvvv

hope yall not holding ur breath for this

It's already happening

QuoteTravis Scott and the organisers of the Astroworld event that left eight people dead have been sued by an injured concertgoer who branded it a "predictable and preventable tragedy."

Lawyers for Manuel Souza filed a petition in Harris County District Court suing Scott, event organiser ScoreMore and concert giant Live Nation over the Friday night incident, according to Billboard.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/astroworld-festival-travis-scott-deaths-update-b1952917.html%3Famp
damn guess we're not holding our breath huh

:woohoo:

klappa.

don't exhale until travis is actually found culpable

:popeyes:

L0NZ.

Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:45:04 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on November 07, 2021, 07:39:06 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 10:05:28 AM
N
ppl are really trash. Y'all had money to send him to that concert but now y'all can't pay for a funeral?
God Bless

I know you got stragged for this. That was really stupid nnnn.
ppl tried and I got right back at each one
You can be next

:kii:

Im reading through and you were tf handled  :plzstop:

You "got back" but none of it was effective. Your stance here is too idiotic hnybooboo


RAY7

Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:26:29 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 08:15:31 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:07:39 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:01:32 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 07:57:40 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:44:32 PM
Quote from: Marilyn on November 07, 2021, 07:18:31 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 10:54:02 AM
He or his mom, somebody paid for this concert. If neither of them have any money in savings or anything he shouldn't have even been at that concert. I find it hard to believe between them they're really that bad off

That was some dumb ass shit to say.  I'm not rich and damn sure treated myself to two seafood boils this week. Just because people ain't rich or have 10 bands stacked away for a funeral don't mean they can't enjoy life's special moments like concerts, theater, tours, sports events, vacationing, etc. This is the equivalent of "Why do you have a designer bag but have a food stamo card?" You don't know if that shit was gifted or discounted at Marshalls or purchased at better times. You don't know what the fuck is going on. Him going to that concert don't have shit to do with the family not affording a funeral.
10 bands? Are y'all really from some places where everyone gets cremated except the top 1%? Funerals are not that expensive you don't have to be rich to have one

this is how you know ray has literally no idea what he's talking about

fggggfffffffff



:plzstop:
you didn't post anything that contradicted anything I said :plzstop:

Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:58:40 PM
Funerals are not that expensive

truly a new level of dumb

:omf:


exactly because you posted numbers that are not that high
and that was the AVERAGE not the minimum

so almost 8,000 to 10,000 for funeral costs is "not that high" huh

ggffgfffdfxfccvdccccvdccvxcccccvcvv

truly a new level of dumb

:omf:
well way to round UP and skip the part that those are "the average" and not the minimum
YOURE dumb

the "average" is what MOST people pay u blithering idiot lmfaoooooooooooooo

ur stupidity is almost exciting. like.... how is he gonna make a fool of himself NEXT

:plzstop:
MOST ppl is not ALL ppl imbecile! You think you're smart but your posts don't show that

RAY7

Quote from: L0NZ. on November 07, 2021, 08:31:46 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:45:04 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on November 07, 2021, 07:39:06 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 10:05:28 AM
N
ppl are really trash. Y'all had money to send him to that concert but now y'all can't pay for a funeral?
God Bless

I know you got stragged for this. That was really stupid nnnn.
ppl tried and I got right back at each one
You can be next

:kii:

Im reading through and you were tf handled  :plzstop:

You "got back" but none of it was effective. Your stance here is too idiotic hnybooboo
nope all were put back in their place
Keep trying to be next in the list if you want
:feelinmyself:

Dr Naomi Campbell

Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on November 07, 2021, 08:28:10 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 07, 2021, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: ophliyah on November 07, 2021, 08:02:35 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on November 07, 2021, 07:59:36 PM
I'm seeing a big lawsuits and charges coming his way.

They're gonna throw the book at his ass.

vbvbvvvvvvvvv

hope yall not holding ur breath for this

It's already happening

QuoteTravis Scott and the organisers of the Astroworld event that left eight people dead have been sued by an injured concertgoer who branded it a "predictable and preventable tragedy."

Lawyers for Manuel Souza filed a petition in Harris County District Court suing Scott, event organiser ScoreMore and concert giant Live Nation over the Friday night incident, according to Billboard.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/astroworld-festival-travis-scott-deaths-update-b1952917.html%3Famp
damn guess we're not holding our breath huh

:woohoo:
:tistheseas:

L0NZ.

Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 08:33:57 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on November 07, 2021, 08:31:46 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:45:04 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on November 07, 2021, 07:39:06 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 10:05:28 AM
N
ppl are really trash. Y'all had money to send him to that concert but now y'all can't pay for a funeral?
God Bless

I know you got stragged for this. That was really stupid nnnn.
ppl tried and I got right back at each one
You can be next

:kii:

Im reading through and you were tf handled  :plzstop:

You "got back" but none of it was effective. Your stance here is too idiotic hnybooboo
nope all were put back in their place
Keep trying to be next in the list if you want
:feelinmyself:


nnnnnnnnnnn PLEA. that has never and will never  :oof:


RAY7

Quote from: Israel on November 07, 2021, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: Israel on November 07, 2021, 08:10:08 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: Israel on November 07, 2021, 07:48:51 PM
ray, luv. the first post u made in here about the mom being able to afford to send her child to a concert but not being able to pay for a funeral

can u at least admit u got off on the wrong foot by assuming she paid for the ticket and not even knowing that?

Quote from: RAY7 on November 07, 2021, 10:05:28 AM
N
ppl are really trash. Y'all had money to send him to that concert but now y'all can't pay for a funeral?
God Bless

maybe there were some other points you made which were valid, but u completely got off on the wrong foot IMO

even if she did pay for the ticket that doesn't say much about anything else tbh, but you kicked things off with a baseless assumption.
we're all assuming though. I guess it's better to assume she's a broke destitute out of work single mom? I like to usually think positive and see the good in ppl, but just in this instance I don't see it and am assuming the worst. Hope I'm wrong
yes I began presenting other possibilities because i was kinda forced to.
to simply counter your reasoning for concluding this woman is "trash".

and even when i presented my own ideas, i watched my wording. i didn't state it as fact. i said things like "it's possible", "chances are...". this is the language you use when ur not sure of something but want to present other possibilities to defend someone.

the problem here with what u started with is that your entire argument wasn't based on a fact. that in itself left u standing on one leg.

does that make sense?
ray? :usureuok:
you're right