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[Herb.]

I used Heidi Klum as an example. Not someone with Native ancestry.

She's a white woman, who loves her kid's kinky hair. They're not Native, or Hispanic, they're black with kinky hair and she doesn't want anyone touching it. She saves it. Some mothers take this seriously. You guys are overlooking that.

We're not talking about Heidi though.  You dont know if this woman puts their hair in baggies to keep. But we can all pretty clearly see the scorned undertone throughout the entire video. You're overlooking that. You're talking about Heidi Klum putting her adopted kids' hair in a ziploc and not Carla who is doing stunts and shows in front of her kids using a haircut as a green light to act a fool. If it wasnt the haircut it woulda been their toy trains, exceeding the allotted time for visits, the number of car seats in the car, oh wait...... she nit picked all that too

I already said multiple times how wrong she is.
And how immature she acted.

Why do you guys keep overlooking that?

I'm just saying that she could have genuinely been triggered.
Sometimes people act a fool when they are set off by something. Depending on their personality.

I understand.

You think the haircuts triggered a genuine reaction.

I think it gave her a reason to be a bitch.

I think she's just a bitch period. Don't think it's an act anytime someone is gross enough to have their kids key up their dad's car. That's a genuine, undiluted bitch my love. And anything that triggers her will bring it right on out.

SHe's not the first woman to try to turn her kids against their fathers and be genuinely upset that he's in their lives after he did her wrong (in her mind). This definitely isn't an exclusively "black" thing either. It's more of a woman thing. But fucking mess.

[Young]

If cutting the child's hair is not listed in his rights as a parent it should not have been done.
Sometimes you have to acknowledge who the fire starter was. In this case, it would be him.
If your situation with your ex is already rocky, why GIVE her a reason to get on your case?

Why not call her and talk with her about it?

Yes, she turned all the way up once the boys were there with their Caesars. But this could have been avoided. Women are catty and spiteful, it's in their nature. Sor'. So if your dumb ass gives them an excuse to rip you apart, it'll be done.

She's still dead wrong for involving her kids. Very immature. Don't think I am excusing her behavior. But he knew what he was doing as well. Especially considering the fact that he refused to let her know where they got the cut at.

And the cuts didn't even look cute. Do you see what the barber did to their heads?

sis for one, the grandma already acknowledged that the boys have had haircuts before. and not just once in past; it's reoccurring. "You want the bill?"

So the Tia example doesnt really work here at this point. Nor does the fact that the baby mother would be pissed about cultural impact or the loss of years work of maintaining 3b curly locks.
I dont think the court order is that he CANT cut their hair. I think he just needs permission. Thats what it looks like the baby mother was alluding to as well. So if he was wrong about anything; it was that he did not get permission from the mother.
And we also know thats part of the reason she woman was angry because she kept yelling "did you ask? did you call?"
she wanted that communication. Earl is clearly over this woman. We can see this and he verbalizes this. We also see that the woman has emotions about this because she goes into HIS car, asks a random child about WHO he is and the name of the parent of the child so she can see if she can piece some things together for herself. The grandmother even comes to help do so.

Its alot bigger than this hair stuff sis..

[L0NZ.]

I used Heidi Klum as an example. Not someone with Native ancestry.

She's a white woman, who loves her kid's kinky hair. They're not Native, or Hispanic, they're black with kinky hair and she doesn't want anyone touching it. She saves it. Some mothers take this seriously. You guys are overlooking that.

We're not talking about Heidi though.  You dont know if this woman puts their hair in baggies to keep. But we can all pretty clearly see the scorned undertone throughout the entire video. You're overlooking that. You're talking about Heidi Klum putting her adopted kids' hair in a ziploc and not Carla who is doing stunts and shows in front of her kids using a haircut as a green light to act a fool. If it wasnt the haircut it woulda been their toy trains, exceeding the allotted time for visits, the number of car seats in the car, oh wait...... she nit picked all that too

I already said multiple times how wrong she is.
And how immature she acted.

Why do you guys keep overlooking that?

I'm just saying that she could have genuinely been triggered.
Sometimes people act a fool when they are set off by something. Depending on their personality.

I understand.

You think the haircuts triggered a genuine reaction.

I think it gave her a reason to be a bitch.

I think she's just a bitch period. Don't think it's an act anytime someone is gross enough to have their kids key up their dad's car. That's a genuine, undiluted bitch my love. And anything that triggers her will bring it right on out.

SHe's not the first woman to try to turn her kids against their fathers and be genuinely upset that he's in their lives after he did her wrong (in her mind). This definitely isn't an exclusively "black" thing either. It's more of a woman thing. But fucking mess.

hey Fro!

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[RAY7]

I used Heidi Klum as an example. Not someone with Native ancestry.

She's a white woman, who loves her kid's kinky hair. They're not Native, or Hispanic, they're black with kinky hair and she doesn't want anyone touching it. She saves it. Some mothers take this seriously. You guys are overlooking that.

We're not talking about Heidi though.  You dont know if this woman puts their hair in baggies to keep. But we can all pretty clearly see the scorned undertone throughout the entire video. You're overlooking that. You're talking about Heidi Klum putting her adopted kids' hair in a ziploc and not Carla who is doing stunts and shows in front of her kids using a haircut as a green light to act a fool. If it wasnt the haircut it woulda been their toy trains, exceeding the allotted time for visits, the number of car seats in the car, oh wait...... she nit picked all that too

I already said multiple times how wrong she is.
And how immature she acted.

Why do you guys keep overlooking that?

I'm just saying that she could have genuinely been triggered.
Sometimes people act a fool when they are set off by something. Depending on their personality.

I think the crime doesn't warrant the "punishment" is the point
If she's mad that he cut their hair she needs to call him and cuss him out
or just pull him aside face 2 face. Putting her kids in danger over a haircut is ridiculous. What if he tried to back out and didn't see the kids back there? Fuck a haircut, even if he was wrong for doing it
the kids didn't deserve to see them interacting like that or to be told to dislike their own father. She's 100% wrong no excuse

[L0NZ.]

We also see that the woman has emotions about this because she goes into HIS car, asks a random child about WHO he is and the name of the parent of the child so she can see if she can piece some things together for herself. The grandmother even comes to help do so.

Its alot bigger than this hair stuff sis..

fffffffffff that was the NASTIEST part of this 

Its that bitch Keisha aint it!! I fucking KNEW EHT!

[Herb.]

I used Heidi Klum as an example. Not someone with Native ancestry.

She's a white woman, who loves her kid's kinky hair. They're not Native, or Hispanic, they're black with kinky hair and she doesn't want anyone touching it. She saves it. Some mothers take this seriously. You guys are overlooking that.

sis i love you but no.
its not that we're overlooking it; its that you arent looking past the hair/race/culture thing.
and we know maybe its because of your latest personal revelations in this area.

but whats going on in the video and whats being discussed has A LOT more to do other things than hair. and its rooted with the hate and bitterness this woman has for this man Earl. And whats scariest about the whole video is we see a 3 generation depiction coming into to form before our eyes. we see the grandmother who is obviously just as scorned and distracted by her own bitter emotions that she too was unable to keep the focus of her anger on and about the hair. and we see it happening with the baby mother. whats scariest about her is that she is also CREATING the next generational cycle right before our very own eyes. but this time to her 2 little black sons. shes dangerous. those poor little boys...smh. they will grow up in an environment where two of the most important women in their lives are okay with being driven by bitter and spiteful emotions. it gets deep..and scary.

the entire video is sad; and your points on hair are extremely valid as to WHY both women could be mad.
but again, whats going on in the video and whats being discussed isnt about why they're mad its about how they're handling that "anger" and how the children are being used and affected by it all.

The thing is that I'm not oblivious to the fact that this woman is bitter, scorned, angry and catty. Why do you guys keep replying to me like I am? I never refuted that. But he's wrong for doing this.

[Young]

I used Heidi Klum as an example. Not someone with Native ancestry.

She's a white woman, who loves her kid's kinky hair. They're not Native, or Hispanic, they're black with kinky hair and she doesn't want anyone touching it. She saves it. Some mothers take this seriously. You guys are overlooking that.

sis i love you but no.
its not that we're overlooking it; its that you arent looking past the hair/race/culture thing.
and we know maybe its because of your latest personal revelations in this area.

but whats going on in the video and whats being discussed has A LOT more to do other things than hair. and its rooted with the hate and bitterness this woman has for this man Earl. And whats scariest about the whole video is we see a 3 generation depiction coming into to form before our eyes. we see the grandmother who is obviously just as scorned and distracted by her own bitter emotions that she too was unable to keep the focus of her anger on and about the hair. and we see it happening with the baby mother. whats scariest about her is that she is also CREATING the next generational cycle right before our very own eyes. but this time to her 2 little black sons. shes dangerous. those poor little boys...smh. they will grow up in an environment where two of the most important women in their lives are okay with being driven by bitter and spiteful emotions. it gets deep..and scary.

the entire video is sad; and your points on hair are extremely valid as to WHY both women could be mad.
but again, whats going on in the video and whats being discussed isnt about why they're mad its about how they're handling that "anger" and how the children are being used and affected by it all.

The thing is that I'm not oblivious to the fact that this woman is bitter, scorned, angry and catty. Why do you guys keep replying to me like I am? I never refuted that. But he's wrong for doing this.

i didnt say or think you dont agree that the woman has issues, and i agree that he should communicate with the mother; and probably shouldnt have cut the hair altogether
but i think that is such a small issue when it comes to everything we saw in the video.
and i think thats where the disagreement lies.
you seem to weigh the two issues alot differently than everyone else is all sis

[Herb.]

I used Heidi Klum as an example. Not someone with Native ancestry.

She's a white woman, who loves her kid's kinky hair. They're not Native, or Hispanic, they're black with kinky hair and she doesn't want anyone touching it. She saves it. Some mothers take this seriously. You guys are overlooking that.

sis i love you but no.
its not that we're overlooking it; its that you arent looking past the hair/race/culture thing.
and we know maybe its because of your latest personal revelations in this area.

but whats going on in the video and whats being discussed has A LOT more to do other things than hair. and its rooted with the hate and bitterness this woman has for this man Earl. And whats scariest about the whole video is we see a 3 generation depiction coming into to form before our eyes. we see the grandmother who is obviously just as scorned and distracted by her own bitter emotions that she too was unable to keep the focus of her anger on and about the hair. and we see it happening with the baby mother. whats scariest about her is that she is also CREATING the next generational cycle right before our very own eyes. but this time to her 2 little black sons. shes dangerous. those poor little boys...smh. they will grow up in an environment where two of the most important women in their lives are okay with being driven by bitter and spiteful emotions. it gets deep..and scary.

the entire video is sad; and your points on hair are extremely valid as to WHY both women could be mad.
but again, whats going on in the video and whats being discussed isnt about why they're mad its about how they're handling that "anger" and how the children are being used and affected by it all.

The thing is that I'm not oblivious to the fact that this woman is bitter, scorned, angry and catty. Why do you guys keep replying to me like I am? I never refuted that. But he's wrong for doing this.

i didnt say or think you dont agree that the woman has issues, and i agree that he should communicate with the mother; and probably shouldnt have cut the hair altogether
but i think that is such a small issue when it comes to everything we saw in the video.
and i think thats where the disagreement lies.
you seem to weigh the two issues alot differently than everyone else is all sis

Yeah, that's all it is.

And I'll be reasonable and honest and say that me being in the minority here probably does have to do with the fact that I love natural hair, know the maintenance it takes, etc. I can admit that. But if anything that just shows how differently people see things.

I don't care if it were my cousin, husband that I love dearly, bestie...bring my child back to me bald and you're getting your scalp snatched next. If I handle that, and you know I handle that, why switch up the routine? I can understand why she may have been genuinely triggered.

But I will admit my "bias".

[Nine]

These poor children caught in the mess

[Herb.]

And sometimes when you're not cool with someone it's easy to assume that they're doing things intentionally just to spite you, even when they aren't. Haven't we all had that experience, or at least witnessed it? Anything small will have you GNAWING at their wig.

[Young]

I used Heidi Klum as an example. Not someone with Native ancestry.

She's a white woman, who loves her kid's kinky hair. They're not Native, or Hispanic, they're black with kinky hair and she doesn't want anyone touching it. She saves it. Some mothers take this seriously. You guys are overlooking that.

sis i love you but no.
its not that we're overlooking it; its that you arent looking past the hair/race/culture thing.
and we know maybe its because of your latest personal revelations in this area.

but whats going on in the video and whats being discussed has A LOT more to do other things than hair. and its rooted with the hate and bitterness this woman has for this man Earl. And whats scariest about the whole video is we see a 3 generation depiction coming into to form before our eyes. we see the grandmother who is obviously just as scorned and distracted by her own bitter emotions that she too was unable to keep the focus of her anger on and about the hair. and we see it happening with the baby mother. whats scariest about her is that she is also CREATING the next generational cycle right before our very own eyes. but this time to her 2 little black sons. shes dangerous. those poor little boys...smh. they will grow up in an environment where two of the most important women in their lives are okay with being driven by bitter and spiteful emotions. it gets deep..and scary.

the entire video is sad; and your points on hair are extremely valid as to WHY both women could be mad.
but again, whats going on in the video and whats being discussed isnt about why they're mad its about how they're handling that "anger" and how the children are being used and affected by it all.

The thing is that I'm not oblivious to the fact that this woman is bitter, scorned, angry and catty. Why do you guys keep replying to me like I am? I never refuted that. But he's wrong for doing this.

i didnt say or think you dont agree that the woman has issues, and i agree that he should communicate with the mother; and probably shouldnt have cut the hair altogether
but i think that is such a small issue when it comes to everything we saw in the video.
and i think thats where the disagreement lies.
you seem to weigh the two issues alot differently than everyone else is all sis

Yeah, that's all it is.

And I'll be reasonable and honest and say that me being in the minority here probably does have to do with the fact that I love natural hair, know the maintenance it takes, etc. I can admit that. But if anything that just shows how differently people see things.

I don't care if it were my cousin, husband that I love dearly, bestie...bring my child back to me bald and you're getting your scalp snatched next. If I handle that, and you know I handle that, why switch up the routine? I can understand why she may have been genuinely triggered.

But I will admit my "bias".

sdsdsdsdsdsssd

yeah i definitely can relate in some ways. I literally tend to my hair 24/7
luv my mess


dsdsd

but i dunno, I just feel like even if for the sake of knowing the severe effects all of this can have on the two boys & how it only adds to the next cycle of broken black families; the mother should kinda pull back and maybe reevaluate her actions a lil more here. IMO  i think in this case; shes more in the wrong when looking at the bigger picture.

[Herb.]

I used Heidi Klum as an example. Not someone with Native ancestry.

She's a white woman, who loves her kid's kinky hair. They're not Native, or Hispanic, they're black with kinky hair and she doesn't want anyone touching it. She saves it. Some mothers take this seriously. You guys are overlooking that.

sis i love you but no.
its not that we're overlooking it; its that you arent looking past the hair/race/culture thing.
and we know maybe its because of your latest personal revelations in this area.

but whats going on in the video and whats being discussed has A LOT more to do other things than hair. and its rooted with the hate and bitterness this woman has for this man Earl. And whats scariest about the whole video is we see a 3 generation depiction coming into to form before our eyes. we see the grandmother who is obviously just as scorned and distracted by her own bitter emotions that she too was unable to keep the focus of her anger on and about the hair. and we see it happening with the baby mother. whats scariest about her is that she is also CREATING the next generational cycle right before our very own eyes. but this time to her 2 little black sons. shes dangerous. those poor little boys...smh. they will grow up in an environment where two of the most important women in their lives are okay with being driven by bitter and spiteful emotions. it gets deep..and scary.

the entire video is sad; and your points on hair are extremely valid as to WHY both women could be mad.
but again, whats going on in the video and whats being discussed isnt about why they're mad its about how they're handling that "anger" and how the children are being used and affected by it all.

The thing is that I'm not oblivious to the fact that this woman is bitter, scorned, angry and catty. Why do you guys keep replying to me like I am? I never refuted that. But he's wrong for doing this.

i didnt say or think you dont agree that the woman has issues, and i agree that he should communicate with the mother; and probably shouldnt have cut the hair altogether
but i think that is such a small issue when it comes to everything we saw in the video.
and i think thats where the disagreement lies.
you seem to weigh the two issues alot differently than everyone else is all sis

Yeah, that's all it is.

And I'll be reasonable and honest and say that me being in the minority here probably does have to do with the fact that I love natural hair, know the maintenance it takes, etc. I can admit that. But if anything that just shows how differently people see things.

I don't care if it were my cousin, husband that I love dearly, bestie...bring my child back to me bald and you're getting your scalp snatched next. If I handle that, and you know I handle that, why switch up the routine? I can understand why she may have been genuinely triggered.

But I will admit my "bias".

sdsdsdsdsdsssd

yeah i definitely can relate in some ways. I literally tend to my hair 24/7
luv my mess


dsdsd

but i dunno, I just feel like even if for the sake of knowing the severe effects all of this can have on the two boys & how it only adds to the next cycle of broken black families; the mother should kinda pull back and maybe reevaluate her actions a lil more here. IMO  i think in this case; shes more in the wrong when looking at the bigger picture.

This is more common than you'd think unfortunately. The results of divorce/separation when kids are involved are almost always very nasty. This just happened to be caught on tape for us to see.

Unlike the murders, etc. and mess that occur out of anger when parents win custody and mess. It gets brutal as fuck.

Which is why BOTH parents should be doing everything they can to keep the peace. Which involves healthy amounts of communication. He missed the mark, she missed the mark. To me it's more about who was wronger, not who was wrong.

[Herb.]

I used Heidi Klum as an example. Not someone with Native ancestry.

She's a white woman, who loves her kid's kinky hair. They're not Native, or Hispanic, they're black with kinky hair and she doesn't want anyone touching it. She saves it. Some mothers take this seriously. You guys are overlooking that.

We're not talking about Heidi though.  You dont know if this woman puts their hair in baggies to keep. But we can all pretty clearly see the scorned undertone throughout the entire video. You're overlooking that. You're talking about Heidi Klum putting her adopted kids' hair in a ziploc and not Carla who is doing stunts and shows in front of her kids using a haircut as a green light to act a fool. If it wasnt the haircut it woulda been their toy trains, exceeding the allotted time for visits, the number of car seats in the car, oh wait...... she nit picked all that too

I already said multiple times how wrong she is.
And how immature she acted.

Why do you guys keep overlooking that?

I'm just saying that she could have genuinely been triggered.
Sometimes people act a fool when they are set off by something. Depending on their personality.

I understand.

You think the haircuts triggered a genuine reaction.

I think it gave her a reason to be a bitch.

I think she's just a bitch period. Don't think it's an act anytime someone is gross enough to have their kids key up their dad's car. That's a genuine, undiluted bitch my love. And anything that triggers her will bring it right on out.

SHe's not the first woman to try to turn her kids against their fathers and be genuinely upset that he's in their lives after he did her wrong (in her mind). This definitely isn't an exclusively "black" thing either. It's more of a woman thing. But fucking mess.

hey Fro!

hey bewskie

[MAY]

he definitely should have called her before cutting their hair off.

hair may not mean anything to him but it could mean it to her, she has nice hair herself, i'm sure the kids do too. unless she had them walking around looking a mess, which I doubt.

i damn sure know if someone cut my childs hair off without calling I'd be digging into their ass as well. parent, babysitter, bestie, cousin....don't give a fuck, u gonna get it!

but
both of them are dead wrong for this. literally. LITERALLY putting their kids in the middle of their own mess

b

That wasn't about a haircut.

This bitch is bitter and still trying to control this man any way that she can.