Oprah Winfrey wants new writers; Tyler Perry says "NO" (long-read)

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GYNandTONIC

Imagine you own a retail store. You hire a new associate and they are opening credit cards in record numbers..however, customers say that his breathe smells bad.

Are you going to ignore your customers (focus group) simply because they are opening tons of new cards? If you're a good boss you'll always appreciate the new money, but in order to make the shopping experience better you have to address Tyler's breathe.

Oprah is still his boss! He doesnt get a free pass because he brought some light to the network ESPECIALLY when it was the same reason for his downfall at another network. Just because the ratings are good doesnt mean they can't be better....and how long will that last with shitty writers. Im sure FOX has a say so in its writing and production teams!

Frankly, It would be pretty difficult for Tyler to find another home for his shows. Oprah can have producers and writers beating down the door to get a time slot.

BigDawg


RekeRig

Quote from: Rawlf on March 17, 2016, 05:16:58 PM
its a catch-22
tyler may need to hire new writers
but his shows is what got the OPRAH network on track
My own family, male family members are glued to that show
:dead:
And now even have a better outlook on gay characters and individuals in general.
i mean ... ok  :dead: its not like Oprah wanted to get rid of his show or change EVERYTHING

if she hated it that much, she'd just snatch it from the network IMO lol Tyler is probably just
sensitive as fuck, assuming this report is even true.

RekeRig

Quote from: jtwoeleven on March 17, 2016, 11:08:04 PM
Oh dear...I haven't read the full article, I skimmed but here's my two cents...

I am a fan of his show For Better or Worse, and casually watch House of Payne. Tyler's shows are...nothing groundbreaking honestly, mediocre at best...some good TV to pass the time...But he's not without his flaws...IMO the biggest problem with his shows is originality, plot development, and PACING.

Tyler found success in theatre and stage production, but he's limited as he uses the same approach for his movies and TV shows. The pacing in his shows is glacial as he tackles them as if they were plays. He also recycles plot points between shows. His character Angela from "Better or Worse" used a pregnancy plot that was used on his older show "House of Payne"

So yeah, he needs to improve on the pacing on his storylines. If he does that, his storylines may improve, be more original, and his character development won't be as boring as watching paint dry. His drive and self-sufficiency is admirable, but there's strength in knowing that you can't do everything on your own.
!!!!!!!!

RekeRig

Quote from: BigDawg on March 18, 2016, 05:25:55 AM
Quote from: downtownbrown on March 18, 2016, 12:00:32 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on March 17, 2016, 04:03:24 PM
I cant stand Oprah's sow self.

Bitch your network was close to tanked before Tyler stepped in.

Let's not act like you weren't tuned into Oprah's Next Chapter. The Rih, NPH, Beyonc? and a few other interviews slayed and got major ratings.

She could've gotten someone other than Tyler to do shows but chose him cause they were friends.

With that being said, he is a sorry ass friend to not take criticism from another friend and instead get mad at her. Really sad. Acting like the petty queen everyone believes him to be.
I wasnt tuned in  :mmywheresddy:

Let's not sit here and pretend that Tyler's shows didnt improve her ratings for OWN. Im not even a Tyler fan, but fact is fact.A lot of people in this thread calling for new writers, which I agree with them, wouldnt be doing so if they didnt watch the shows themselves. I just do not like Oprah's approach....fuck it, I just dont like Oprah.
I've seen clips on youtube. I will never watch this shit  :dead: i respect Tyler overall but ch

BigDawg

Quote from: RekeRocka on March 18, 2016, 08:05:41 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on March 18, 2016, 05:25:55 AM
Quote from: downtownbrown on March 18, 2016, 12:00:32 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on March 17, 2016, 04:03:24 PM
I cant stand Oprah's sow self.

Bitch your network was close to tanked before Tyler stepped in.

Let's not act like you weren't tuned into Oprah's Next Chapter. The Rih, NPH, Beyonc? and a few other interviews slayed and got major ratings.

She could've gotten someone other than Tyler to do shows but chose him cause they were friends.

With that being said, he is a sorry ass friend to not take criticism from another friend and instead get mad at her. Really sad. Acting like the petty queen everyone believes him to be.
I wasnt tuned in  :mmywheresddy:

Let's not sit here and pretend that Tyler's shows didnt improve her ratings for OWN. Im not even a Tyler fan, but fact is fact.A lot of people in this thread calling for new writers, which I agree with them, wouldnt be doing so if they didnt watch the shows themselves. I just do not like Oprah's approach....fuck it, I just dont like Oprah.
I've seen clips on youtube. I will never watch this shit  :dead: i respect Tyler overall but ch
Lol, I feel you. I guess I expect Tyler's mess on his shows, not neccessarily a Materpiece Theatre mess. His stuff to me is entertaining, but that is where it starts and stops with me.

VirgoMind

Quote from: RekeRocka on March 18, 2016, 08:04:03 AM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on March 17, 2016, 11:08:04 PM
Oh dear...I haven't read the full article, I skimmed but here's my two cents...

I am a fan of his show For Better or Worse, and casually watch House of Payne. Tyler's shows are...nothing groundbreaking honestly, mediocre at best...some good TV to pass the time...But he's not without his flaws...IMO the biggest problem with his shows is originality, plot development, and PACING.

Tyler found success in theatre and stage production, but he's limited as he uses the same approach for his movies and TV shows. The pacing in his shows is glacial as he tackles them as if they were plays. He also recycles plot points between shows. His character Angela from "Better or Worse" used a pregnancy plot that was used on his older show "House of Payne"

So yeah, he needs to improve on the pacing on his storylines. If he does that, his storylines may improve, be more original, and his character development won't be as boring as watching paint dry. His drive and self-sufficiency is admirable, but there's strength in knowing that you can't do everything on your own.
!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!  "There's Strength in numbas"

downtownbrown

Quote from: GYNandTONIC on March 18, 2016, 06:27:00 AM
Imagine you own a retail store. You hire a new associate and they are opening credit cards in record numbers..however, customers say that his breathe smells bad.

Are you going to ignore your customers (focus group) simply because they are opening tons of new cards? If you're a good boss you'll always appreciate the new money, but in order to make the shopping experience better you have to address Tyler's breathe.

Oprah is still his boss! He doesnt get a free pass because he brought some light to the network ESPECIALLY when it was the same reason for his downfall at another network. Just because the ratings are good doesnt mean they can't be better....and how long will that last with shitty writers. Im sure FOX has a say so in its writing and production teams!

Frankly, It would be pretty difficult for Tyler to find another home for his shows. Oprah can have producers and writers beating down the door to get a time slot.

!!!!!!!
And if you're slaying and you know that one change could help you slay even more, why not put your fucking pride aside and shit on the WORLD?!

Tyler is a dummy gorl and I'm not using.

Glenda

Quote from: Scott. on March 17, 2016, 11:10:01 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on March 17, 2016, 11:08:04 PM
Oh dear...I haven't read the full article, I skimmed but here's my two cents...

I am a fan of his show For Better or Worse, and casually watch House of Payne. Tyler's shows are...nothing groundbreaking honestly, mediocre at best...some good TV to pass the time...But he's not without his flaws...IMO the biggest problem with his shows is originality, plot development, and PACING.

Tyler found success in theatre and stage production, but he's limited as he uses the same approach for his movies and TV shows. The pacing in his shows is glacial as he tackles them as if they were plays. He also recycles plot points between shows. His character Angela from "Better or Worse" used a pregnancy plot that was used on his older show "House of Payne"

So yeah, he needs to improve on the pacing on his storylines. If he does that, his storylines may improve, be more original, and his character development won't be as boring as watching paint dry. His drive and self-sufficiency is admirable, but there's strength in knowing that you can't do everything on your own.

"A Family That Preys"

His best movie, imo.



FUCK Bey

Quote from: Curious ʕ?ᴥ?ʔ George on March 17, 2016, 05:30:51 PM
Quote from: RekeRocka on March 17, 2016, 04:11:19 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on March 17, 2016, 04:03:24 PM
I cant stand Oprah's sow self.

Bitch your network was close to tanked before Tyler stepped in.
n

y'all act like she fired the man or something. she's tryna help his redundant self out
!

tyler is a one trick pon' kinda writer

n tha mess he writes is trash btw
hanna is tha haves very own runaway slave

jus throw her a damns railroad & shes outta there any ep now
which id LOVE!!
SHSHDHDJDJDJSJJSHAJSJSJSJJSSMMSNSJSMSSS

Slaves is fucking disgusting now. I saw a bit of an episode just the other day. It's a fucking CIRCUS. :uhh: Sis hair braided up in cornrows now, random ass drug dealers and crackheads.

"where my brutha?".
:bvy:

It's just sooo over the top and HOOD. Like in a very exaggerated kind of way.




RekeRig

Quote from: BigDawg on March 18, 2016, 08:32:27 AM
Quote from: RekeRocka on March 18, 2016, 08:05:41 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on March 18, 2016, 05:25:55 AM
Quote from: downtownbrown on March 18, 2016, 12:00:32 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on March 17, 2016, 04:03:24 PM
I cant stand Oprah's sow self.

Bitch your network was close to tanked before Tyler stepped in.

Let's not act like you weren't tuned into Oprah's Next Chapter. The Rih, NPH, Beyonc? and a few other interviews slayed and got major ratings.

She could've gotten someone other than Tyler to do shows but chose him cause they were friends.

With that being said, he is a sorry ass friend to not take criticism from another friend and instead get mad at her. Really sad. Acting like the petty queen everyone believes him to be.
I wasnt tuned in  :mmywheresddy:

Let's not sit here and pretend that Tyler's shows didnt improve her ratings for OWN. Im not even a Tyler fan, but fact is fact.A lot of people in this thread calling for new writers, which I agree with them, wouldnt be doing so if they didnt watch the shows themselves. I just do not like Oprah's approach....fuck it, I just dont like Oprah.
I've seen clips on youtube. I will never watch this shit  :dead: i respect Tyler overall but ch
Lol, I feel you. I guess I expect Tyler's mess on his shows, not neccessarily a Materpiece Theatre mess. His stuff to me is entertaining, but that is where it starts and stops with me.
i can see that

His work isn't all bad for sure. As of late, I can't get into much but I can't say if I he had a role for me that I would turn him down :dead:

The Brandy Barbie

March 18, 2016, 02:47:49 PM #59 Last Edit: March 18, 2016, 02:49:19 PM by The Brandy Barbie
Welp, TP called into Atlanta radio staton, V103, this morning and confirmed all this as false.  He says he and Oprah are just as much friends as ever.  She doesn't want him to change his shows. And if she did want him to change something, he said, it's Oprah's network, so he would change it. He says the only thing truthful about the entire write up was that they'd spelled he and Oprah 's names correctly.