Do you think that Usher is an icon?

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Quote from: pettypatty on October 10, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
I can't think of one artist or hear a song and think damn "that's so Usher"  :dead:

!!! he doesn't have a sound or vibe, IMO


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Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 10, 2016, 05:19:15 PM
then why can't i think of one memorable usher performance

:plzstop:
charisma! showstopper!

plea'


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Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Usher is an R&B legend with more classics than any other artist his age.  His catalog (minus the last 2 albums) is pretty much flawless.  The Confessions album went Diamond and he was pretty much the biggest artist in the game at one point.  Back in the 90's, everyone wanted to "dance like Usher" or had Usher posters on their walls.  He was able to adapt at the start of the 2000's pioneering the futuristic Neptunes sound to R&B and later adapting and pioneering to the crunk sound with Lil Jon.  Being adaptable is the key to longevity.  His music is his impact.  Like many artists who have huge blockbuster albums, though, it became his downfall.  It took Polow leaking "Love In This Club" for him to even release another single.  The impact of his previous album helped that song fly to #1 within weeks.  But he steered away from his heartthrob image, got married, acted crazy on TRL defending Tameka, sued his biggest fansite for hating on his wife, and the Here I Stand album was a little too mature for his core audience.  By 30, he was cooling off.

But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?

No.  And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher.  No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"......  No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....

There's no frenzy.  There's no real hype.  He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion.  And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more).  When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most.  When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most.  And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up.  Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures.  Didn't he just star in a movie?  If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography.  He's just regular as hell now.

Usher is an R&B legend.  But he is not ICONIC.

This 'Behind the Music' bio fjjj gorl....

but yea! he's not an icon or legend lolz  :hehe:



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Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:32:38 PM
dfgf not it being because we're gay
no luv, it's because he's BORING

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to be fair, you guys are not here for male artists :dead: but then again, I don't know a straight nigga who cares for R&B artists to the point of defending them lolz


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Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men

ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig

I just sharted everywhere


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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:42:21 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
This nigga said the A-Towm Stomp snsnksMAMSMSMSMSM

ray bye!
I mean everytime "Yeah! plays ya'll can act dumb
but everyone kinda gets right in step

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I have honestly NEVER seen anyone do that dance :plzstop:

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NEVER fj :kii: and why is he speaking in past tense :uhh:

no one even listens to "Yeah" in 2016


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Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 07:46:22 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:44:58 PM
Every time Jan's "If" comes on people wait for the break down and try that dance.

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he really tried to SQUEEZE that in


Opposites Attract.



It's unconditional, these days you know....

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Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:54:26 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:52:40 PM
And the cis should ESPECIALLY know it, wasnt that what ciara's uncoordinated ass attempted while FLAILING across that damn BET stage :dead:
Please, that's definitely an iconic dance
No one below 30 is familiar with "If"...

Right :dead:

If! huge song and dance! gor....

Rhythm Nation is her only identifiable choreography


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Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men

ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig

Nigga, please. You're playing, right?

That "blazer/hat" look you're referring to is thanks to Russell Simmon and Phat Farm's 2003 line an ENTIRE YEAR before Usher started purchasing the clothes and dressing that way.  Usher did not start anything. 





He was a FAN like everyone else!



And you can't possibly think that's the same as these???








STOP! 

And boy, show me the impact of the GOD DAMN A-Town stomp?  Where????  The "A-Town Stomp" was shit they were already doing in the club in Atlanta.  He didn't create anything.  He was just naming popular Atlanta dances at the end of "Yeah!".  Your examples are AWFUL.





I'll wait for you to show me 300 niggas in blazers and fitteds & a Phat Farm Jean doing the A-Town Stomp.

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Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on October 10, 2016, 10:48:26 PM
Well, somebody in here said Faith is more of an icon.  I was shocked.  :-o

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In R&B, she def. is more iconic. Neither of are icons in general tho.


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Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 10:57:05 PM
U Make Me Wanna
Nice & Slow
Burn
Lovers & Friends
U Remind Me
U Got It Bad

not classics?

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The first two only, luv


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Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men

ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig

Nigga, please. You're playing, right?

That "blazer/hat" look you're referring to is thanks to Russell Simmon and Phat Farm's 2003 line an ENTIRE YEAR before Usher started purchasing the clothes and dressing that way.  Usher did not start anything. 





He was a FAN like everyone else!



And you can't possibly think that's the same as these???








STOP! 

And boy, show me the impact of the GOD DAMN A-Town stomp?  Where????  The "A-Town Stomp" was shit they were already doing in the club in Atlanta.  He didn't create anything.  He was just naming popular Atlanta dances at the end of "Yeah!".  Your examples are AWFUL.





I'll wait for you to show me 300 niggas in blazers and fitteds & a Phat Farm Jean doing the A-Town Stomp.

:kii:


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