Stephanie Mills speaks on the current state of RnB

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Young

Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 03:50:17 PM
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Meh.

They were blatantly doing this in fifties and sixties when they were slapping white people on album covers for black groups. Everything is cyclical and I'm sure R&B will eventually regain its commercial viability.

I think it?s coming back too
Everything happens in cycles tbh

June's Diary ain't gonna be the fuck apart of it tho

Just wanted to remind you xoxo

:guys:

Or Monica! hehe!

  :omgwatshappening:


XXX.

Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ...  we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!

Gone with this!

UGH!

Why do we make everything negative a black issue?  Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well.  Including their white fans.  That's just music period.  It's competitive.  It's not a race thing.

Same thing Bentley is in here doing.  "Why is Tank singing about sex?"

Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.

I hate when ya'll do this.


Young

Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ...  we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!

We definitely have to Unite


TheletterJ


Young

We could definitely do better

BUT; R&B just doesn?t get the exposure, budget nor push that other genres get

And that?s just the truth


Young

November 16, 2017, 03:59:04 PM #65 Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 03:59:29 PM by Young
 :blush:But in the 90s they were merging Pop and R&B sounds a lot more

And a lot of R&B has been sounding dry tbh


TheletterJ

Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ...  we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!

Gone with this!

UGH!

Why do we make everything negative a black issue?  Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well.  Including their white fans.  That's just music period.  It's competitive.  It's not a race thing.

Same thing Bentley is in here doing.  "Why is Tank singing about sex?"

Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.

I hate when ya'll do this.

Did you watch the video?

XXX.

Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ...  we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!

Gone with this!

UGH!

Why do we make everything negative a black issue?  Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well.  Including their white fans.  That's just music period.  It's competitive.  It's not a race thing.

Same thing Bentley is in here doing.  "Why is Tank singing about sex?"

Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.

I hate when ya'll do this.

Did you watch the video?

YEAH.  I did.

And my point still stands.  We're always pointing the finger at each other like we are somehow responsible for an industry literally stacked against black music. 

Do some research on the label merges that happened at the turn of the last decade and how most Urban divisions were cut with Urban staffs completely fired.  Leaving R&B artists on labels with employees who probably had never even heard of them.

Mixed with iHeart and Clear Channel doing business deals that forced many Urban stations into Rhythmic stations or to close altogether.  In addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.

Black people have been supporting and "doing our part" for years.  That's why Demi Lovato can sell only 20k more than Tamar but still EAT.  Because she has an industry literally backing her 100%.

So, YEAH.

You're wrong about that.




Scott.

Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
sssssssssss

Right! These artists are adding their own twang to it, which is pop.

they Be so up n arms about the state of RnB.

Men too, like Tank :dead:

Nigga how times are you gonna MAKE us listen to you croon about this slut, or going to the club, or how sorry you are?

And yawl ass want us to PAY coins to hear you do the same shit going into another decade?! ... That?s extremely fckn inconsiderate

Give Steph Mill an alberm with budget right now and the shit is gonna sound like an 90?s RnB record :dead:

Girl No THANKS! There?s plenty of bars you can make coin at performing locally.

Bentley, wyd?

This post is absolutely horrible.
what more do you expect from a idiot

BigDawg

Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ...  we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!

Gone with this!

UGH!

Why do we make everything negative a black issue?  Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well.  Including their white fans.  That's just music period.  It's competitive.  It's not a race thing.

Same thing Bentley is in here doing.  "Why is Tank singing about sex?"

Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.

I hate when ya'll do this.

Did you watch the video?

YEAH.  I did.

And my point still stands.  We're always pointing the finger at each other like we are somehow responsible for an industry literally stacked against black music. 

Do some research on the label merges that happened at the turn of the last decade and how most Urban divisions were cut with Urban staffs completely fired.  Leaving R&B artists on labels with employees who probably had never even heard of them.

Mixed with iHeart and Clear Channel doing business deals that forced many Urban stations into Rhythmic stations or to close altogether.  In addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.

Black people have been supporting and "doing our part" for years.  That's why Demi Lovato can sell only 20k more than Tamar but still EAT.  Because she has an industry literally backing her 100%.

So, YEAH.

You're wrong about that.


KING BENTLEY.

Quote from: Baph al Mana. on November 16, 2017, 02:52:18 PM
some of these girls have been flopping for like... 2 decades now.. :everythingok:

But whites!

sure.... They BITE a bit but... ummm.  :calmdownsis:
ssssssss

right! we're not saying it doesn't happen. but ... this woe is me crap is old.

"oh they want it, but don't want it from US"

gorl yes! you damn right, I don't want an alberm from you and Kenny :dead:

and really the mess about Adele was a stretch too but :dead:

H.#.G.*.Z

KING BENTLEY.

November 16, 2017, 04:52:44 PM #72 Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 04:53:02 PM by BENTLEY
and .... quiet as it's kept... Brndn and Scott ain't never bought no Kenny Lat' or Steph'Mill alber

or so I've HEARD ... ki

H.#.G.*.Z

Scott.

November 16, 2017, 04:55:49 PM #73 Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 04:56:29 PM by Scott.
I don?t like Kenny Lattimore outside of ?For You? so of course not. But that doesn?t negate the fact that you are in fact and indeed a muff-fuckin idiot

KING BENTLEY.

Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 04:55:49 PM
I don?t like Kenny Lattimore
well would ya looky here ... somebody call up Steph' n explain this mess

H.#.G.*.Z