Wendy Williams Comes For Ashanti Again

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b7

Quote from: AYR on December 06, 2017, 04:32:01 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on December 06, 2017, 04:24:25 PM
Nnnnn as is that voice
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I was gonna say that
nnnnnn it had a nice 3 year run before it dried up, though.
:hehe:


XXX.

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Not asking is the voice thinner.

YKW.

BAPHOMET.

Mariah's size 6 body has the girls in a rage. I love it.  :scrumptious:


b7

fffggggggghghh

Just make sure that backup dancer hides all the eggnog babe! She?s known to plump OUT overnight

Vonc2002

Ummm are y'all still in here discussing this? Beyonce and Ashanti are both strippers, period
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





FadedEnvy

Quote from: AYR on December 06, 2017, 09:27:15 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 06, 2017, 09:13:16 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 06, 2017, 09:00:49 AM
I'm still Team Ashanti on this but Faded has a point I guess.

I mean, not really but Merry Chris'!
exactly
I said that because Faded was lying and exaggerating to try and differentiate
Beyonc? has never had on a big ass ball gown doing a lap dance
On the BET awards and on the DC3 tour she?s wearing a thin evening gown
that definitely shows off her body just as much as Ashanti
and even further, during Partition she actually is on a pole doing a stripper/exotic dancer routine so y?all can stop this bullshit trying to paint her in some prude virginal light in comparison to Ashanti there is no difference
and I could maybe see if the person getting the lap dance was throwing the money, but it was someone in the audience
if anyone has even been to a strip club you would know that
Ppl only throw money when a dancer is on stage on the pole
When it?s a lap dance/private dance usually you pay up front, keep your hands to yourself or maybe but money in the girl?s g-string

Ugh you again :butim16robert:

Ball gown, evening dress. Whatever. Fact is Beyonce could have easily attended a formal event offstage in what she wore during that performance and no one would have batted an eyelid.





Do you think she could have strutted into the GG's in this dominatrix ensemble without getting lashed?



You can rant and rave all you want about how they are both revealing outfits in one way or another and how that makes them "technically" one in the same but sorry that's not how it works. For most of the general public those two 'fits evoke two totally different perceptions. DC3 were very deliberate in making sure they paired the lapdances with relatively modest attire for that very reason.

No one is trying to paint Bee off as a saint, just pointing out why there was an obvious disconnect between Ashanti's  lapdsnce performance and her audience's perception of it, that Beyonce never faced during hers. Unless you're aguing that Ashanti just gives off "cheap stripper" naturally no matter what the circumstances, i'm not really sure what your counter point is.

And let's be clear if Beyonce had ever stopped the show in the middle of that C2U lapdance segment to lash an audience member and proclaim that she was "not a fucking stripper" with the same viscous "better than" attitude that Ashanti had here, there'd be several thousands lined up to snatch her wig and point out the irony of that statement. Wendall would be at the front if that line.

Luckily Queen deals with these situations with more humility and grace. Like when the guy damn near swiped her off the stage, she defended him from being tossed out of the show because she understood that she put herself out there and he just got a little carried away in the moment.

BAPHOMET.

Quote from: FadedEnvy on December 06, 2017, 07:29:52 PM
Quote from: AYR on December 06, 2017, 09:27:15 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 06, 2017, 09:13:16 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 06, 2017, 09:00:49 AM
I'm still Team Ashanti on this but Faded has a point I guess.

I mean, not really but Merry Chris'!
exactly
I said that because Faded was lying and exaggerating to try and differentiate
Beyonc? has never had on a big ass ball gown doing a lap dance
On the BET awards and on the DC3 tour she?s wearing a thin evening gown
that definitely shows off her body just as much as Ashanti
and even further, during Partition she actually is on a pole doing a stripper/exotic dancer routine so y?all can stop this bullshit trying to paint her in some prude virginal light in comparison to Ashanti there is no difference
and I could maybe see if the person getting the lap dance was throwing the money, but it was someone in the audience
if anyone has even been to a strip club you would know that
Ppl only throw money when a dancer is on stage on the pole
When it?s a lap dance/private dance usually you pay up front, keep your hands to yourself or maybe but money in the girl?s g-string

Ugh you again :butim16robert:

Ball gown, evening dress. Whatever. Fact is Beyonce could have easily attended a formal event offstage in what she wore during that performance and no one would have batted an eyelid.





Do you think she could have strutted into the GG's in this dominatrix ensemble without getting lashed?



You can rant and rave all you want about how they are both revealing outfits in one way or another and how that makes them "technically" one in the same but sorry that's not how it works. For most of the general public those two 'fits evoke two totally different perceptions. DC3 were very deliberate in making sure they paired the lapdances with relatively modest attire for that very reason.

No one is trying to paint Bee off as a saint, just pointing out why there was an obvious disconnect between Ashanti's  lapdsnce performance and her audience's perception of it, that Beyonce never faced during hers. Unless you're aguing that Ashanti just gives off "cheap stripper" naturally no matter what the circumstances, i'm not really sure what your counter point is.

And let's be clear if Beyonce had ever stopped the show in the middle of that C2U lapdance segment to lash an audience member and proclaim that she was "not a fucking stripper" with the same viscous "better than" attitude that Ashanti had here, there'd be several thousands lined up to snatch her wig and point out the irony of that statement. Wendall would be at the front if that line.

Luckily Queen deals with these situations with more humility and grace. Like when the guy damn near swiped her off the stage, she defended him from being tossed out of the show because she understood that she put herself out there and he just got a little carried away in the moment.




CHOKE

Quote from: FadedEnvy on December 06, 2017, 05:48:38 AM
Well the obvious differences in their celebrity status aside.

Ashanti was not only performing her lapdance in a more risque stripper-esque costume than Beyonce,  she was also performing in a small hole in a wall club type venue that had virtually no distance or barrier between her and her audience.

To top it off she was doing that segment with a backdrop in the form of a jumbo screen LITERALLY playing a video of a stripper on a pole with stacks of money being thrown at her. Plus i'm also pretty sure Bee's act didn't include grabbing the guys d*ck. 

Its not an issue of one performance being more wrong morally than the other. I personally have no issue with either, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why Ashanti's audience would feel more comfortable throwing money onstage at her as if she were a stripper, than an audience watching at Beyonce giving a diet lapdance while wearing a ball gown, in arena that holds 20k+ people.

The mess could have ended with this post TBH


RAY7

Quote from: FadedEnvy on December 06, 2017, 07:29:52 PM
Quote from: AYR on December 06, 2017, 09:27:15 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 06, 2017, 09:13:16 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 06, 2017, 09:00:49 AM
I'm still Team Ashanti on this but Faded has a point I guess.

I mean, not really but Merry Chris'!
exactly
I said that because Faded was lying and exaggerating to try and differentiate
Beyonc? has never had on a big ass ball gown doing a lap dance
On the BET awards and on the DC3 tour she?s wearing a thin evening gown
that definitely shows off her body just as much as Ashanti
and even further, during Partition she actually is on a pole doing a stripper/exotic dancer routine so y?all can stop this bullshit trying to paint her in some prude virginal light in comparison to Ashanti there is no difference
and I could maybe see if the person getting the lap dance was throwing the money, but it was someone in the audience
if anyone has even been to a strip club you would know that
Ppl only throw money when a dancer is on stage on the pole
When it?s a lap dance/private dance usually you pay up front, keep your hands to yourself or maybe but money in the girl?s g-string



No one is trying to paint Bee off as a saint, just pointing out why there was an obvious disconnect between Ashanti's  lapdsnce performance and her audience's perception of it,
yes you are and really it?s not even about their ?audiences?? perceptions because this was a 1 time occurrence, by 1 person
so throughout the rest of her other shows, no one else has thrown money on stage during this segment of the show, no matter what she had on or what she did. Clearly it?s not about what Ashanti gives off or what Beyonc? gives off or what she wears
It was a  ignorant asshole trying to be funny that ran up on the wrong one
Nothing more nothing less
BOOM

Stunna Gor’

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Y'all really can't be fucking serious. Bey has literally climbed up fucking STRIPPER poles. She's pretty much the reason why MOST of these girls try to give a tacky whored out mess to begin with. I just... :uhh:


BAPHOMET.



Vonc2002

Yea beyonce started the girls down a stripper path
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Stunna Gor’

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And I'm not in here swearing she's not and hasn't. So yea, back on Bey.


Stunna Gor’


GRAND

Quote from: AYR on December 06, 2017, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Genesis on December 06, 2017, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: AYR on December 06, 2017, 10:52:05 AM
Ton, and Lis don?t read this

Um wouldn?t all that apply to Ciara Gen?
Ciara is still relevant,
n
But let?s talk about the talent stuff because Ashanti sings better than Ci
is a better songwriter, actress and has sold more albums even when she?s independent
Let?s not
this is all literally false