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[Kurama]

I mean, most of these issues aren?t really exclusive to the queer community and I don?t think anyone has the definitive answer to solve it all.

I will say that I think it?s important that we arm younger black gays with all the self assurance and confidence they can possibly have. I learned a lot about navigating this world through my friendships with older gay men.

Faghot , don't all orientations this.

I want to hear from ya!

[Young]

I think there's no way in hell to really address Black gay issues without addressing Black issues first.

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tbh I wasn't trying to pin it down to race also, but you're right about that. For the black gay community its two different battles.

[Young]

And we should probably stop viewing queer relationships under a heteronormative lens or emulating some outdated nuclear family structure.

Can you expound a bit on this?

[Kurama]

I mean, most of these issues aren?t really exclusive to the queer community and I don?t think anyone has the definitive answer to solve it all.

I will say that I think it?s important that we arm younger black gays with all the self assurance and confidence they can possibly have. I learned a lot about navigating this world through my friendships with older gay men.

What did you learn from older gays?

Avoiding certain toxic relationships, learning how to being a better friend, the importance of self validation, emotional intelligence etc;

I have a great relationship with my father, but there are certain aspects of my life that he (or any other straight man) would never be able to relate to or empathize with.

ack! I wish I had a davi. I also feel like your HEALTHY relationship with another man sort of assisted in you discovering gay older men who had sense. That's a rare experience for most of us.

[Gilgamesh.]

 

[Barbie Dangerous]

I mean, most of these issues aren?t really exclusive to the queer community and I don?t think anyone has the definitive answer to solve it all.

I will say that I think it?s important that we arm younger black gays with all the self assurance and confidence they can possibly have. I learned a lot about navigating this world through my friendships with older gay men.

What did you learn from older gays?

Avoiding certain toxic relationships, learning how to being a better friend, the importance of self validation, emotional intelligence etc;

I have a great relationship with my father, but there are certain aspects of my life that he (or any other straight man) would never be able to relate to or empathize with.

That's pretty interesting. I feel like a lot of gay men have many gay associates but very few gay friends let alone older gay friends. Sounds extremely beneficial..

[BAPHOMET.]

Yummy is probably talking about how gays (white/black/etc) get into the whole "Top/Bottom" and using as gender roles.
Like the Male and Female relationship. Trying to emulate heterosexual archetypes.

[yummy]

And we should probably stop viewing queer relationships under a heteronormative lens or emulating some outdated nuclear family structure.

Can you expound a bit on this?

Well, I?ve never been gung-ho about the notion that marriage and children should be something that EVERYONE should aspire to partake in. And relationship oriented fags love to assume that someone who is single or prefers to date around is promiscuous or having sex with multiple partners because of some past trauma. And I think it has a lot to do with some gays idolizing heterosexual relationships and wanting to live up some false standard of normalcy.

[Young]

Honestly, I'm really not too concerned with the "gay community".
Hope that doesn't sound mean or anything but it's real.

I am most concerned with the state of the Black community right now - especially financially.
Have been thinking of silent ways that I can help.

Being a "WOO WOO FIGHT THE POWER" type of activist really isn't something fitting for my personality, but my thoughts are to use anything that God has given me in a way that will help and inspire my people.

And I recently became a member of the Cherokee Historical Society - to help maintain history and an identity that some people may have preferred be washed away, forgotten or LOST.

But , power to the glow sticks and stuff.

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I know what you mean to an extent sis.

Tbh I don't really label myself much or play a super active role in the LGBT community.
And I know I should. However I do feel like if you belong to a certain group of people, you feel for the issues they face a bit more.

And force you to even look at yourself in ways.

Definitely agree with what you said about helping the black community too. I want to start banking black for starters.

[yummy]

Yummy is probably talking about how gays (white/black/etc) get into the whole "Top/Bottom" and using as gender roles.
Like the Male and Female relationship. Trying to emulate heterosexual archetypes.

This too...but I don?t wanna dictate how other people exist in their relationships. If you and your partner are comfortable with roles then more power to the both of you, but don?t expect everyone else to be on that.

[Kurama]

This is hot, keep talking guys lolz.

[Young]

I mean, most of these issues aren?t really exclusive to the queer community and I don?t think anyone has the definitive answer to solve it all.

I will say that I think it?s important that we arm younger black gays with all the self assurance and confidence they can possibly have. I learned a lot about navigating this world through my friendships with older gay men.

What did you learn from older gays?

Avoiding certain toxic relationships, learning how to being a better friend, the importance of self validation, emotional intelligence etc;

I have a great relationship with my father, but there are certain aspects of my life that he (or any other straight man) would never be able to relate to or empathize with.

That's pretty interesting. I feel like a lot of gay men have many gay associates but very few gay friends let alone older gay friends. Sounds extremely beneficial..

!!!!!

I don't have a CLOSE middle aged gay friend like that--but I'd love one

I do have a lesbian couple about 10 years my senior and we have really REALLY good red table discussions. We'll sit at dinner for hours and kii and talk soul to soul

[yummy]

I see what Yummy's getting at - even down to the traditional wedding and mess.
A ceremony originally built for a bride and groom.

It kinda boggles me. Your union isn't "traditional", why should your wedding be?

But I always consider that maybe that's their dream mess. I dunno.

Right, and a lot of that traces back to my other point of self validation. A lot of gays are so desperate for acceptance and spend too much worrying about being seen as ?normal?.

You?re a faggot, they will never see you as their equal. Get over it and get on with your life.

[Gilgamesh.]

So where is the line drawn?

Are the gorls okay with pedophilia a bit--as long as it isn't too edgy? What?

Are the gorls okay with having sponsors and people take care of them in exchange for giving booch and mess? I don't think this is a "Gay" issue, some people want less for themselves.

Are the gorls okay with Grindr being so sexually driven and hard to find someone to actually DATE? Yes because that's the purpose of the app. Ain't no one looking for their forever on Grindr - I hope.


I mean--do gays even believe REAL gay love (and the like) can exist? Yes. However, I think Men in general don't put relationships as priority or life goal the way women do. I also think a lot of Gay men use their sexuality as an excuse for a lack of commitment.

Are we okay with the level of perversion circling around the community (and culture as a whole of course) and how we've almost become desensitized to it? Can't relate cause y'all Americans are on some other ish.


Do we believe that two same-sex parents can successfully raise a sane, happy, and productive member of society? A family? Yes but I personally wouldn't want to raise a child without a strong female influence.


Are we happy with the community as a whole? Again, the UK scene is different but I think it's gotten a lot better. I think the younger generation here are more conscious of their actions and have sense of fearlessness that my generation (30+) lacked.

[Young]

Yummy is probably talking about how gays (white/black/etc) get into the whole "Top/Bottom" and using as gender roles.
Like the Male and Female relationship. Trying to emulate heterosexual archetypes.

Well I think it's more so a discussion of finding someone who is compatible for YOU.
And yes, from a LGBT standpoint, it's much more complex.  In which, gender roles shouldn't really be a THING anyway tbh .

But when you KNOW yourself on a deeper level, you can find someone who fits you like a hand in glove and you can have long, lasting love.
That convo can go much deeper about what that all means and what each person identifies as, but I most certainly believe you can be the same sex as your partner and live a committed life with a family and the whole 9, done much like the way we see traditionally.