Lets talk about the rise and fall of Alicia keys

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Legendy

Quote from: Legendy on July 31, 2019, 04:14:25 AM
The pop songs that she choose as first singles did her wrong since 2009.
"No One" was the exception that tricked her.
"Doesnt Mean Anything" has to be the worst first single of her career after "Girl On Fire".
Too Pop for her core..
She knew  that when she released "GOF".. that's why she did the lazy "adult version", but it wasn't enough.

She was an album seller..and she started doing thoses lazy pop singles.. and it killed her.
"Unthinkable" was her last REAL hit..an real urban smash..
otherwise, she cant choose a good single..
"In Common, is a nice track but it just doesn't fit her main audience radio wise which is now UAC- Urban Cross Over.
She needs to find the righ ttrack.. the song that we be a BIG hit at UAC and then cross over Urban and Rhytmic..
I don't think that she's OVER OVER.. because her formula is the "basiest" one.
Piano + Voice..is simple but can work in every era.
even by mistake, one day,  she can have the right song and it will help her to get a gold album..
nothing more..
She's arriving 40..
Gospel album, Jazz album, etc.. it's what's coming next for her..

(sorry for my english)

ajusting!

Naomi Hit Me

Quote from: Legendy on July 31, 2019, 04:22:53 AM
Quote from: Legendy on July 31, 2019, 04:14:25 AM
The pop songs that she choose as first singles did her wrong since 2009.
"No One" was the exception that tricked her.
"Doesnt Mean Anything" has to be the worst first single of her career after "Girl On Fire".
Too Pop for her core..
She knew  that when she released "GOF".. that's why she did the lazy "adult version", but it wasn't enough.

She was an album seller..and she started doing thoses lazy pop singles.. and it killed her.
"Unthinkable" was her last REAL hit..an real urban smash..
otherwise, she cant choose a good single..
"In Common, is a nice track but it just doesn't fit her main audience radio wise which is now UAC- Urban Cross Over.
She needs to find the righ ttrack.. the song that we be a BIG hit at UAC and then cross over Urban and Rhytmic..
I don't think that she's OVER OVER.. because her formula is the "basiest" one.
Piano + Voice..is simple but can work in every era.
even by mistake, one day,  she can have the right song and it will help her to get a gold album..
nothing more..
She's arriving 40..
Gospel album, Jazz album, etc.. it's what's coming next for her..

(sorry for my english)

ajusting!
totally agree
If she transitioned to UAC she'd def see some success

🦚

She's always been UAC with her content...but even there they aren't touching her mess.

She needs a producer or writer to come in and help her with a new perspective.

Ppl don't realize how much Krucial and Erika Rose contributed to her material.

I'm actually shocked that erika is her manager instead of her A&R. And that Erika gave up being an artist all together.

She needs someone like raphael saadiq or D'wayne Wiggins  to step in and help her find herself again.
Hear 'em swarmin', right? (Zz) 🐝 🐝  is known to bite (Zz, zz)
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Legendy

Quote from: Sleī Gets ACTĪVE on July 31, 2019, 04:32:23 AM
She's always been UAC with her content...but even there they aren't touching her mess.

She needs a producer or writer to come in and help her with a new perspective.

Ppl don't realize how much Krucial and Erika Rose contributed to her material.

I'm actually shocked that erika is her manager instead of her A&R. And that Erika gave up being an artist all together.

She needs someone like raphael saadiq or D'wayne Wiggins  to step in and help her find herself again.

She can do wonderful things with Raphael. I agree.

I saw that she was in studio with Emily King, which makes me laugh. You remember that when Emily started, they wanted to sell her as "the nu alicia keys"..
Alicia must be a lil bit desperate to work with her now.



I hope she will give her the right songs.

Palladium

Quote from: Ntwadumela on July 30, 2019, 09:08:53 AM
She just got played out like so many other artists do. Simple.

!!!!

So did her voice

Scott.

Quote from: Sleī Gets ACTĪVE on July 31, 2019, 04:32:23 AM
She's always been UAC with her content...but even there they aren't touching her mess.

She needs a producer or writer to come in and help her with a new perspective.

Ppl don't realize how much Krucial and Erika Rose contributed to her material.

I'm actually shocked that erika is her manager instead of her A&R. And that Erika gave up being an artist all together.

She needs someone like raphael saadiq or D'wayne Wiggins  to step in and help her find herself again.

>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Raphael Saadiq would be PERFECT for the kind of artist she is.

LOONA.

Music became stagnant as hell (not that it was ever amazing to begin with).   

Bentley. HARRIS!

Quote from: Genesis2 on July 30, 2019, 09:55:26 AM
Quote from: Bentley. A Moderator. on July 30, 2019, 09:48:56 AM
I never saw Alicia as having a "fall" per se

If you classify Alicia's decrease as a fall, then you'd have to apply it to Bey and Rih too

I just think her focus shifted
Bey fell like alicia?

What the fuck?
s

you're perception doesn't matter bby sis

you can't book her on sales or influence or talent as an artist

she clearly declined, but all artist do

and she's clearly taken a step back musically so there's really no FALL

Alicia could be out doing movies and making product lines as well

why did you even need me to explain this to you?  :plzstop: :plzstop:

LOONA.

Alicia definitely fell and HARD.

And tbh she hasn't really recovered. What's she doing now? Hosting The Voice?

I mean Gaga went from selling 15 mil with The Fame to struggling to go Gold with Joanne, but between ASIB and her mess with Tony Bennett she's making a comeback.

Alicia just fizzled owt   


FRANCE

Most female R&B artists lose momentum by their 3rd album anyways. Toni, Brandy, Monica, Ashanti, etc etc. Even the Pop girls too like Christina, Katy, GaGa. This was inevitable. No one (aside from a couple girls) stay on top 4ever.

🦚

what momentum did Toni lose during the heat?

besides Alicia's 3rd album was huge
Hear 'em swarmin', right? (Zz) 🐝 🐝  is known to bite (Zz, zz)
——————///——————-
https://justiceforbreonna.org/

Cade

I think he means after the 3rd album they fizzle which is true with everyone mentioned. It almost happen to Bey before she switched it up

🦚

Quote from: Cade on July 31, 2019, 04:50:21 PM
I think he means after the 3rd album they fizzle which is true with everyone mentioned. It almost happen to Bey before she switched it up

not even remotely close

4 outsold all the pop girls albums released that year minus adele and gonzo.
And that for an album that was leaked 5 weeks before the release date.
Hear 'em swarmin', right? (Zz) 🐝 🐝  is known to bite (Zz, zz)
——————///——————-
https://justiceforbreonna.org/

fedswatchin

Quote from: Legendy on July 31, 2019, 04:14:25 AM
The pop songs that she choose as first singles did her wrong since 2009.
"No One" was the exception that tricked her.
"Doesnt Mean Anything" has to be the worst first single of her career after "Girl On Fire".
Too Pop for her core..
She knew  that when she released "GOF".. that's why she did the lazy "adult version", but it wasn't enough.

She was an album seller..and she started doing thoses lazy pop singles.. and it killed her.
"Unthinkable" was her last REAL hit..an real urban smash..
otherwise, she cant choose a good single..
"In Common, is a nice track but it just doesn't fit her main audience radio wise which is now UAC- Urban Cross Over.
She needs to find the righ ttrack.. the song that we be a BIG hit at UAC and then cross over Urban and Rhytmic..
I don't think that she's OVER OVER.. because her formula is the "basiest" one.
Piano + Voice..is simple but can work in every era.
even by mistake, one day,  she can have the right song and it will help her to get a gold album..
nothing more..
She's arriving 40..
Gospel album, Jazz album, etc.. it's what's coming next for her..

(sorry for my english)
i just want you to know ain't NOBODY reading thru this "I never graduated elementary" illiterate disaster