Has R&B become reductive?

Started by GYNandTONIC, December 13, 2015, 08:51:57 AM

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The average male R&B artist has become reductive, yes.

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Quote from: Lion Babe on December 13, 2015, 01:07:05 PM
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Why are black people restricted to R&B anyway?

R&B just ain't in. Jason Derulo is a flop but manages to score hits and get placements at award shows. I love R&B but I hate how it's almost like it's the only thing expected of Black artists. Especially when Black people had a hand in creating other genres that are considered white now.
i agree with this

and that's where my step outside of the box comment came from
I feel it's fact that they sing the same shit the same way, all the damn time :dead:

I think it's two different issues at play tbh

Instead of claiming Jazmine sings the same mess as Adele (which she doesn't :dead)
I think our concerns could be of better use finding out if there are any black artists that are the same genre as Trailor and are these labels turning them away at the door.

I'm not gonna cry for these grown ass rich RnB niggas. They have opportunities, a lot more than some upcoming black artists that are truly talented and creating incredible works.

That's just the viewpoint I'm coming from

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Quote from: Bentley! on December 13, 2015, 11:41:17 AM
:dead: @ Pharrell not giving flUsh Blurred Lines
I don't like Twisted as much, Blurred is the better song, and damn... Robin really gave a better vocal :dead:
& that's the problem right there ????

Bentley!

Quote from: Boys Don't Cry on December 13, 2015, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 13, 2015, 11:41:17 AM
:dead: @ Pharrell not giving flUsh Blurred Lines
I don't like Twisted as much, Blurred is the better song, and damn... Robin really gave a better vocal :dead:
& that's the problem right there ????
ssssss

Why tho sis? :dead:

Robin gives a great vocal, he executed it better than FLush could have. Pharrels wanted the best for his track :supluv:

Step ya game up FLush :dead:

Herb.

well better vocal is all subjective.

a lot of music stuff is political and strategic.

I'm sure Pharrell would've preferred that Britney take Milkshake, she said no dice
so he gave Kelis her scraps and she worked it better than Brit could've ever done IMO.

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Quote from: Lion Babe on December 13, 2015, 01:07:05 PM
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Why are black people restricted to R&B anyway?

R&B just ain't in. Jason Derulo is a flop but manages to score hits and get placements at award shows. I love R&B but I hate how it's almost like it's the only thing expected of Black artists. Especially when Black people had a hand in creating other genres that are considered white now.

That's real but that quote Fatley posted kinda explains the mess. These labels aren't interested in a black country singer.

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Quote from: Bentley! on December 13, 2015, 01:44:39 PM
Quote from: Boys Don't Cry on December 13, 2015, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 13, 2015, 11:41:17 AM
:dead: @ Pharrell not giving flUsh Blurred Lines
I don't like Twisted as much, Blurred is the better song, and damn... Robin really gave a better vocal :dead:
& that's the problem right there ????
ssssss

Why tho sis? :dead:

Robin gives a great vocal, he executed it better than FLush could have. Pharrels wanted the best for his track :supluv:

Step ya game up FLush :dead:
You honestly thought Robin gave a better vocal on 'Blurred Lines' (Where he barely sang) to Usher's 'Twisted'?

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December 13, 2015, 02:00:55 PM #70 Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 02:01:08 PM by Boys Don't Cry
 the obvious simalarity in the production and the Pharrell feature, it's basically the same song ????
One wasn't even a single and the other is a overrated piece of garbage that stole the baseline of an older r&b song
But I guess it's better coz it has a White face attached to it

Bentley!

Quote from: Herbie on December 13, 2015, 01:48:47 PM
well better vocal is all subjective.

a lot of music stuff is political and strategic.

I'm sure Pharrell would've preferred that Britney take Milkshake, she said no dice
so he gave Kelis her scraps and she worked it better than Brit could've ever done IMO.
well I gotta admit this is the truth too

Coins and knowing who would get marketed better no doubt played into it as well.

But then what does that say about our black producers. Are they selling out? Are they selling our sounds for coin?

Bentley!

Quote from: Boys Don't Cry on December 13, 2015, 02:00:55 PM
the obvious simalarity in the production and the Pharrell feature, it's basically the same song ????
One wasn't even a single and the other is a overrated piece of garbage that stole the baseline of an older r&b song
But I guess it's better coz it has a White face attached to it
:dead:
am mean... Robin executed that song very well vocally.

I just don't personally believe it did well because he was white in this case :dead:

His song was better than Usher's, he sang it better, he gave a visual image that fit the song.

Bentley!

And speaking of Usher

question  ... why did he take Justin Bieber under his wing instead of a young talented black boy :dead:

So if anything karma came back around and a white man sold better with a song similar to his. I don't feel bad for him :kii:

Sinpool

Quote from: GĖ??X on December 13, 2015, 01:52:13 PM
Quote from: Lion Babe on December 13, 2015, 01:07:05 PM
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Why are black people restricted to R&B anyway?

R&B just ain't in. Jason Derulo is a flop but manages to score hits and get placements at award shows. I love R&B but I hate how it's almost like it's the only thing expected of Black artists. Especially when Black people had a hand in creating other genres that are considered white now.

That's real but that quote Fatley posted kinda explains the mess. These labels aren't interested in a black country singer.

Well there's her.