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[Bentley. HARRIS!]

He lost me completely with that last sentence

your like so transphobic lol 

My thing is if you are attracted to that person and their female like qualities is what attracted you  then what is wrong with that

i mean whether its a dude or not does it feel like your with a dude?
thats what you base it on lol

if you feel it just a dude with a wig on then the vibe was off for you from the beginning

in the case of the former many men simply realize that its energy and vibe not genitalia
and thats how you can say its a woman

s

You humbling behind Vonc WRONG all the time sends me.

But ... all of that can be skipped and they can just say they are a transwoman

Nobody deserves to play the guessing game. Some trans women emulate feminine looks very well. So A guy that's looking for a natural born woman is in danger of being deceived. You can't just write it off and say, "oh well you were attracted to her before!"

Well sure he was, he thought it was a woman

[Navyman]

He lost me completely with that last sentence

HJHHJ

I didnt click play. What did it say ?

"ALOT of people are gonna disagree with me but I believe trans women ARE women "
............

Like I honestly think it's time we had this conversation, it's time to create a separate 3rd gender. They can fall under there. And that's ok.

[Navyman]

Is it SO hard for them to call themselves

Trans-women?  women are women. You've .... TRANSitioned to something else. my GOD. like... Does the title of "woman" mean that much to you?

!!!!!
I'm Trans should be worn with pride.

[BAPHOMET.]

He lost me completely with that last sentence

HJHHJ

I didnt click play. What did it say ?

"ALOT of people are gonna disagree with me but I believe trans women ARE women "
............

Like I honestly think it's time we had this conversation, it's time to create a separate 3rd gender. They can fall under there. And that's ok.

It's already in place tho trans-men and trans-women. They just don't want to fall up under it. Even though logic says.....

[BAPHOMET.]

Is it SO hard for them to call themselves

Trans-women?  women are women. You've .... TRANSitioned to something else. my GOD. like... Does the title of "woman" mean that much to you?

!!!!!
I'm Trans should be worn with pride.

It's the embarrassment for me. I don't get it.

[BAPHOMET.]

Stand in your transition with complete PRIDE I'll say.

Well it's dangerous for them to say what they are..

you already flipped the switch.

[Navyman]

Is it SO hard for them to call themselves

Trans-women?  women are women. You've .... TRANSitioned to something else. my GOD. like... Does the title of "woman" mean that much to you?

!!!!!
I'm Trans should be worn with pride.

It's the embarrassment for me. I don't get it.

Embarrassment from who? Themselves or society?

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

He lost me completely with that last sentence

your like so transphobic lol 

My thing is if you are attracted to that person and their female like qualities is what attracted you  then what is wrong with that

i mean whether its a dude or not does it feel like your with a dude?
thats what you base it on lol

if you feel it just a dude with a wig on then the vibe was off for you from the beginning

in the case of the former many men simply realize that its energy and vibe not genitalia
and thats how you can say its a woman

s

You humbling behind Vonc WRONG all the time sends me.

But ... all of that can be skipped and they can just say they are a transwoman

Nobody deserves to play the guessing game. Some trans women emulate feminine looks very well. So A guy that's looking for a natural born woman is in danger of being deceived. You can't just write it off and say, "oh well you were attracted to her before!"

Well sure he was, he thought it was a woman

what did i say that was wrong
its a real thing if you feel like u vibin with a female u are regardless of what is physically there lol

but I am not saying we cannot call them transwomen

but transwomen are women TOOO

much like thick woman is a woman too
a ugly woman is a woman too
a mean woman is a woman too
trans women are women too

I think thats the issue

the ones who say dont call me trans are delusional

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

Is it SO hard for them to call themselves

Trans-women?  women are women. You've .... TRANSitioned to something else. my GOD. like... Does the title of "woman" mean that much to you?

!!!!!
I'm Trans should be worn with pride.

It's the embarrassment for me. I don't get it.

Embarrassment from who? Themselves or society?

umm the whole point is that they believe they were born into the wrong body, calling themselves TRANSwomen highlights that.
TRANSwomen is a reminder, it underlines and capitalises all of the trauma, procedures, stigma they went through and will go through. Not all TRANSwomen want to be clocked and become a poster child for the trans community.
By calling themselves women it firms their beliefs and feelings that they are what they always thought they were, should be and now are.
A woman.

[Sinpool]

Clock them 

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

and I don't know why gays are so offended by trans
Unless a transman gooped them

[BAPHOMET.]

Is it SO hard for them to call themselves

Trans-women?  women are women. You've .... TRANSitioned to something else. my GOD. like... Does the title of "woman" mean that much to you?

yeah it does to them?? you dont know any trans women? cause you would think diff if you did .

i don't agree with this notion.

i know some transwomen or transmen may want to be recognized as woman or man but they are not, and again that is OK. but it is unfair to suggest that one us non supportive or transphobic simply because they do not concede to the demands of certain trans individuals that call for ignoring fact and logic.

its like getting citizenship in another country and then demanding o be called a natural born citizen. you're not, and that's okay. but it doesn't mean that I don't support you or don't like you simply because I'm not calling you something you are not simply because you want me to.

agreed.

[Vonc2002]

Is it SO hard for them to call themselves

Trans-women?  women are women. You've .... TRANSitioned to something else. my GOD. like... Does the title of "woman" mean that much to you?

!!!!!
I'm Trans should be worn with pride.

It's the embarrassment for me. I don't get it.

Embarrassment from who? Themselves or society?

umm the whole point is that they believe they were born into the wrong body, calling themselves TRANSwomen highlights that.
TRANSwomen is a reminder, it underlines and capitalises all of the trauma, procedures, stigma they went through and will go through. Not all TRANSwomen want to be clocked and become a poster child for the trans community.
By calling themselves women it firms their beliefs and feelings that they are what they always thought they were, should be and now are.
A woman.

So basically being fair to themselves and to hell with everybody else.  If u don't have a handle on all that shit and can't own your reality than u don't need to do it,  am sorry.  Because at the end of the day,  Ur NOT a fckn woman and that's the reality of the situation. If me holding a mirror up to your face and calling it like it is bursts the bubble that u have encapsulated yourself in,  then oh fckn well.  U may wanna identify as a woman and ALL that stuff that u said but I have the fckn right to know who I'm involving myself with.  U don't get to hide those kinda things because it makes YOU feel better about yourself. 

[BAPHOMET.]

Is it SO hard for them to call themselves

Trans-women?  women are women. You've .... TRANSitioned to something else. my GOD. like... Does the title of "woman" mean that much to you?

!!!!!
I'm Trans should be worn with pride.

It's the embarrassment for me. I don't get it.

Embarrassment from who? Themselves or society?

umm the whole point is that they believe they were born into the wrong body, calling themselves TRANSwomen highlights that.
TRANSwomen is a reminder, it underlines and capitalises all of the trauma, procedures, stigma they went through and will go through. Not all TRANSwomen want to be clocked and become a poster child for the trans community.
By calling themselves women it firms their beliefs and feelings that they are what they always thought they were, should be and now are.
A woman.

So basically being fair to themselves and to hell with everybody else.  If u don't have a handle on all that shit and can't own your reality than u don't need to do it,  am sorry.  Because at the end of the day,  Ur NOT a fckn woman and that's the reality of the situation. If me holding a mirror up to your face and calling it like it is bursts the bubble that u have encapsulated yourself in,  then oh fckn well.  U may wanna identify as a woman and ALL that stuff that u said but I have the fckn right to know who I'm involving myself with.  U don't get to hide those kinda things because it makes YOU feel better about yourself.

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

Is it SO hard for them to call themselves

Trans-women?  women are women. You've .... TRANSitioned to something else. my GOD. like... Does the title of "woman" mean that much to you?

!!!!!
I'm Trans should be worn with pride.

It's the embarrassment for me. I don't get it.

Embarrassment from who? Themselves or society?

umm the whole point is that they believe they were born into the wrong body, calling themselves TRANSwomen highlights that.
TRANSwomen is a reminder, it underlines and capitalises all of the trauma, procedures, stigma they went through and will go through. Not all TRANSwomen want to be clocked and become a poster child for the trans community.
By calling themselves women it firms their beliefs and feelings that they are what they always thought they were, should be and now are.
A woman.

So basically being fair to themselves and to hell with everybody else.  If u don't have a handle on all that shit and can't own your reality than u don't need to do it,  am sorry.  Because at the end of the day,  Ur NOT a fckn woman and that's the reality of the situation. If me holding a mirror up to your face and calling it like it is bursts the bubble that u have encapsulated yourself in,  then oh fckn well.  U may wanna identify as a woman and ALL that stuff that u said but I have the fckn right to know who I'm involving myself with.  U don't get to hide those kinda things because it makes YOU feel better about yourself.

we ain't gonna agree on this one hun