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[Vonc2002]

what song did Rodney produce that's bigger than TBIM?
he hasnt been the #1 hitmaker without her either tbh
I cant tell you the last artist screaming "DARKCHILD produced!" when naming who they worked with
and more than likely it wasn't the single on their album, so yea

Rodney has had MUCH success outside of Brandy. Firstly, his first grammy came from say my name..... which was a number one record.  His record of the yr grammy came from sam smith for Stay With Me. He was just nominated for record and song of the yr with HER. Wtf are u talking about
Brandy hasn't seen the success she had with Rodney OUTSIDE of Rodney. The same CANNOT be said for Rodney. Please don't try to debate this.  This is when y'all just be sounding goofy 

sounds like his biggest record is still TBIM with Brandy
he has no other 13 weeks at #1 smash
and Bran was just nominated for Best R&B vocal performance with Camper and Daniel Caesar
they both have MUCH success outside of each other
and Hard Place is not even a big chart hit, its pretty much just critical acclaim

U think because the song hit #1 on billboard that makes it the biggest record he's done? 
I'd definitely say the song winning song or record of the yr at the grammys is a MUCH bigger achievement,  ESPECIALLY as the damn producer of the record. Are u serious? 
There are MULTIPLE number 1s throughout the yr but there's only one recipient of record/song of the yr. U have the biggest musical platform awarding u and telling u ur song was the best song of the yr. That's definitely the bigger achievement

[RAY7]

Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.

Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.

Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.

Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me

Rodney didnt produce the original version of that
he did a remix that got included in the credits on a technicality
""Stay with Me" was written by Smith, James Napier, William Phillips, with additional credits to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.

[Vonc2002]

And that's exactly why hard place being nominated is a big deal btw. It's not some #1 across all the charts shit. It's nominated BECAUSE it was just that dope of a song, so your comment about him not being a big producer still was false. He still is VERY  much so an acclaimed producer

[RAY7]

what song did Rodney produce that's bigger than TBIM?
he hasnt been the #1 hitmaker without her either tbh
I cant tell you the last artist screaming "DARKCHILD produced!" when naming who they worked with
and more than likely it wasn't the single on their album, so yea

Rodney has had MUCH success outside of Brandy. Firstly, his first grammy came from say my name..... which was a number one record.  His record of the yr grammy came from sam smith for Stay With Me. He was just nominated for record and song of the yr with HER. Wtf are u talking about
Brandy hasn't seen the success she had with Rodney OUTSIDE of Rodney. The same CANNOT be said for Rodney. Please don't try to debate this.  This is when y'all just be sounding goofy 

sounds like his biggest record is still TBIM with Brandy
he has no other 13 weeks at #1 smash
and Bran was just nominated for Best R&B vocal performance with Camper and Daniel Caesar
they both have MUCH success outside of each other
and Hard Place is not even a big chart hit, its pretty much just critical acclaim

U think because the song hit #1 on billboard that makes it the biggest record he's done? 
I'd definitely say the song winning song or record of the yr at the grammys is a MUCH bigger achievement,  ESPECIALLY as the damn producer of the record. Are u serious? 
There are MULTIPLE number 1s throughout the yr but there's only one recipient of record/song of the yr. U have the biggest musical platform awarding u and telling u ur song was the best song of the yr. That's definitely the bigger achievement

there may be multiple #1s but as I said THIRTEEN WEEKS at #1
there's only a handful of songs that were THAT massive. a song gets record of the year once every year
no song stays that long a #1 every year

[RAY7]

the QUALITY of a song doesnt dictate its success
saying something is great doesnt mean its successful
Hard Place is a dope song that was not a commercial mainstream success like you're trying to state

[Vonc2002]

Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.

Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.

Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.

Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me

Rodney didnt produce the original version of that
he did a remix that got included in the credits on a technicality
""Stay with Me" was written by Smith, James Napier, William Phillips, with additional credits to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.

I didn't say he wrote it. He produced the grammy winning version

[RAY7]

Rodney ain%u2019t cooking shit and hasn%u2019t been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.

Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.

Furthermore, a lot of Rodney%u2019s hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.

Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me

Rodney didnt produce the original version of that
he did a remix that got included in the credits on a technicality
""Stay with Me" was written by Smith, James Napier, William Phillips, with additional credits to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.

I didn't say he wrote it. He produced the grammy winning version

thats fine but lets not phrase it like Rodney made Sam popular or the song a hit
his original was already big

[Vonc2002]

the QUALITY of a song doesnt dictate its success
saying something is great doesnt mean its successful
Hard Place is a dope song that was not a commercial mainstream success like you're trying to state

Where did i say hard place was a commercial success?  I literally said the opposite. 
Ur the one pushing success is based on billboard narrative,  not me 
My point is he is still a sought after producer that is very successful and ur song bein nominated for record and song of the yr is VERY successful.  Wtf are u talking about 

[Le Champ]

I haven't read any of these posts but Ray is wrong cuz he usually is 

[Vonc2002]

Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.

Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.

Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.

Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me

Rodney didnt produce the original version of that
he did a remix that got included in the credits on a technicality
""Stay with Me" was written by Smith, James Napier, William Phillips, with additional credits to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.

I didn't say he wrote it. He produced the grammy winning version

thats fine but lets no phrase it like Rodney made Sam popular or the song a hit
his original was already big

Ummm it's literally the song that catapulted his career.  Ray go YouTube stay with me Darkchild version and tell me what u hear

[RAY7]

the QUALITY of a song doesnt dictate its success
saying something is great doesnt mean its successful
Hard Place is a dope song that was not a commercial mainstream success like you're trying to state

Where did i say hard place was a commercial success?  I literally said the opposite. 
Ur the one pushing success is based on billboard narrative,  not me 
My point is he is still a sought after producer that is very successful and ur song bein nominated for record and song of the yr is VERY successful.  Wtf are u talking about 

yes because billboard is literally what artists look at to see if their song is successful
if Hard Place being Grammy nominated is successful, what kind of success would you call it?
and if Rodney is still a sought after producer, Brandy is a sought after vocalist and still also successful
with her OWN Grammy nomination

[Vonc2002]

Ray honestly just in here talking. He apparently didn't even know that darkchild was still popping in 2020 before this convo,  so I'm done engaging

[RAY7]

Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.

Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.

Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.

Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me

Rodney didnt produce the original version of that
he did a remix that got included in the credits on a technicality
""Stay with Me" was written by Smith, James Napier, William Phillips, with additional credits to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.

I didn't say he wrote it. He produced the grammy winning version

thats fine but lets no phrase it like Rodney made Sam popular or the song a hit
his original was already big

Ummm it's literally the song that catapulted his career.  Ray go YouTube stay with me Darkchild version and tell me what u hear

the fact you're missing the point, and I know Stay With Me was the song that catapulted his career
but Darkchild didnt produce the original song, thats why there even IS a Darkchild version

[Vonc2002]

Brandy definitely aint seen that kinda success since Rodney tho and Rodney has gone on to have some MAJOR successes outside of Brandy, so Idky that was even being debated anyway

[RAY7]

How is Darkchild "popping in 2020" with no songs even released?
jujhgvyhfyfffffffff
yea stop embarrassing yourself
and even this Sam Smith song is from 2014