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[Dr Naomi Campbell]

The question remains, would he have become this flamboyant if he hadn't have gotten famous! So all the "oh he's so brave mess" .. no ma'am "oh he's so RICH" is more like it, he feels he can do whatever now 😂

Dndndndj he was a queen and damn Nicki minaj Stan  before he famous
Now he has the means to be a queen in labels and designer 

[stillpretty]

I def wanna see more super masculine men like myself being represented

thank u guys for speaking up 🙏🏾

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

Let the faggot live
The oppressed sure love to become the oppressors huh
If only there was this much energy for the slew of black artists his age rapping about guns and drugs with badly built botched bitches

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

I def wanna see more super masculine men like myself being represented

thank u guys for speaking up 🙏🏾

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[Dr Naomi Campbell]

I'd like to see more representation for super fem half Indian, Spanish, swedish, and Nigerian, wealthy post/pre op, 2c haired trans like myself
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[stillpretty]

The question remains, would he have become this flamboyant if he hadn't have gotten famous! So all the "oh he's so brave mess" .. no ma'am "oh he's so RICH" is more like it, he feels he can do whatever now 😂

Dndndndj he was a queen and damn Nicki minaj Stan  before he famous
Now he has the means to be a queen in labels and designer 

yeah lil nas's transition is not very uncommon at all among men who are closeted and come out

I've seen it a lot . Men who go from peeking out of the closet to putting on lipstick , dressing in drag etc. from one end the spectrum to the other.

Like there's no middle ground for them. All or nothing either way. Bbbbbb

I def see what people in here are saying cuz sometimes , with that specific population and their transitions it's like omg calm down just chill .

But that's kinda easy for me to say cuz I've always been pretty comfortable with who I am and have always embraced my femininity . And def believe there's a certain "class" to my femininity in my regular everyday life ... I'm not gonnna be in the streets rolling my neck , wearing rainbows and screaming "hear ye hear ye!! Y'all im gay!!! 🗣 u heard dat?? I said I'm Gay!!!!! 🗣"

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I think I take a lot after my older sister and stole her swag. She's super reserved , calm and lets her beauty speak for itself . No extras.

But at the same time I get these men . At some point it's like a volcano when they've kept their real selves suppressed for so long .

The super fem extreme they're showcasing may or may not be who they really are. But it's def a result of them hiding for so long . Only time will tell if they find a medium space between DL thug and rupaul.

I know I say this a lot, but I see both sides in this debate. great points

[stillpretty]

this thread is legit making me think of this straight guy i know...
and this is gonna be one of my long posts so brace urselves.



some things are fucking CLICKING a bit  reading this thread and talking about this

it's like he kinda wants to be me or like me in a way.....

like he's always talking about hair and skin tone and mess....he's actually the guy I made that "Black women are not delusional" thread about....

http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=99757.0

i didn't go TOO much into detail about the backstory and intentionally dodged Lonz's question on page 3 of the thread  because i honestly wanted the thread to be about the black women i was advocating for...and not derail it .

but he's always calling me "coolie" and mess.  and including himself in on it ...on some "ack! coolies in da house!" mess nsdnsndsddsd

he's (Black) Dominican, so at first i just kinda wrote it all off as typical behavior tbh and was just like ok lemme educate him on why it's not OK to say certain things.

to me, it just seemed like he has an innocent "guy crush" on me. like a "bromance" tea.

the other day we were in the park at night and this guy approached and tried to talk to me....he immediately intervened and let the guy know that i was his younger brother...in a semi-aggressive way. the guy backed off. and im happy about that cuz i had no interest in chatting with the guy. at all. and my friend could tell i wasn't.

but the guy said, "but yall dont even look alike  " before he walked away.

but my str8 friend was seemed so excited and was like "he said we look alike! "
i said....he said we DONT look alike lol....without thinking anything of it

but i felt bad after correcting him cuz it's almost like he was disappointed
at first i thought he misheard the man, but then i was like..wait...did he just hear what he WANTED to hear?

and i was hoping he didnt take it any type of way cuz i would NEVER be offended if someone thought we were twins. he's very very handsome. VERY.  we just dont look alike

initially  my thoughts were , if gays can admire Beyonce and our other divas without it being something sexual or being accused  of being hetero...why can't straight men admire men without being gay or bi? or even curious?

but at the same time, we obsess over Beyonce and Naomi and Toni because we can in some way IDENTIFY with them. there's something about them that we CONNECT with.

i just thought he was one of those colorstruck straight guys who was obsessed with hair and mess....but this thread is making some things click for me and making me wonder. is he a future Lil Nas X mess owt?

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ok end essay.

[Bentley. HARRIS!]

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[JCJ]

Love the freedom of expression. My only issue is the BLACK gay community is still fighting among the black community for acceptance. These types of performances don't help because it fuels this idea that all black gay men are pussies. Black gay men deal with exceptionally higher levels of bullying from other black men vs in the white community.

we have Lil nas doing this
just had porter with his flamboyance and HIV talk


like there's nothing wrong with the freedom to express. I'm just concerned that it's making it harder for black gay men to be accepted in the black community as more than hyper flamboyant HIV filled faggots.

I want to see more diverse expressions of homosexuality. Period. It can't always be THIS!

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He went from closeted to just ... flaming

It reinforces so many negative stereotypes. Not all gays wanna be fckn Madonna or Gaga like damn. Then ppl wanna get mad if you don't identify with it "oh well you stick your dick in men don't you?! You're self hating!"

It's about proper representation, the same communities (trans and fags) that fight so hard cause they want somebody to understand them totally overlook a certain certain of homosexual ppl because they don't wear rainbows and do splits. It's so backwards.

Somewhere there's a masculine gay boy that's frightened as hell because he thinks being gay is automatically turning into a fruit up. It's really messed up how trans and gays dominate the conversation and use anything to legitimize their oppression lol

The question remains, would he have become this flamboyant if he hadn't have gotten famous! So all the "oh he's so brave mess" .. no ma'am "oh he's so RICH" is more like it, he feels he can do whatever now 😂

Exactly. Shoutout to BRockababy too cause I didn't see any of his comments and I totally agree.

Hit dogs like I said

And

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[Bentley. HARRIS!]

Wow .... America is really something huh

Yawl millennial gorls have to forgive Uncle Bent

I'm from a generation when you waited until mom went to the store to try on heels, definitely not step out of the house in them.

Call me old fashioned

[BRockaBaby]

Well, I said it before and I'll say it again. The masculine gays are the ones that are hidden in the closet and not coming out. So blame THEM.

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I hear you but I respectfully disagree with this statement and we have to stop pushing this narrative that masculinity equals closeted and afraid to come out. Because it's not always that. Especially recently. My experience with a lot of more masculine gay men is not that they have an issue coming out or accepting who they are or admitting who they are. They just don't feel the need to PROMOTE it or wear it in everything they say, do, or support. In other words, being gay doesn't define them. There's a difference between DL and just a masculine homosexual and we cannot always push this idea that one belongs to the other.

Do most gay men have feminine tendencies that may surface from time to time? Sure. Absolutely. But I don't believe we are one-trick ponies per say. And I agree with a previous post regarding Lil Nas and his fame being a way for him to come out and be himself.

Again, all for the freedom of expression. I just want more of a MIX in the midst. We fight so hard for people to not put us in boxes. For people to not stereotype us (black folks). For people to not think one size fits all. When you see a black men with his pants handing off his ass walking down the street, don't assume that I'm that same man; don't stereotype me. And then we as a black community fight for more representation OUTSIDE of that stereotype.

I believe the same thing applies to the gay community and quite honestly, I'm just tired of seeing the same ole folks carrying the torch.

I honestly look forward to the day where being gay is just a "oh yea and btw" not a "did you know? Can you believe?".

[Young]

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Why are some of putting pressure on this kid to represent the entire spectrum of the gay community? The gay community is a SPECTRUM. There are manly gays, fem gays, DL gays, hood gays, you name it. The only person he owes representation to is HIMSELF. If he's fem, or on some spectrum thereabouts, he doesn't owe shit to any of you. What the fuck is wrong with y'all? Stop projecting YOUR desires onto this kid and let him live HIS fucking truth. Damn.

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

Why are some of putting pressure on this kid to represent the entire spectrum of the gay community? The gay community is a SPECTRUM. There are manly gays, fem gays, DL gays, hood gays, you name it. The only person he owes representation to is HIMSELF. If he's fem, or on some spectrum thereabouts, he doesn't owe shit to any of you. What the fuck is wrong with y'all? Stop projecting YOUR desires onto this kid and let him live HIS fucking truth. Damn.

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[FRANCE]

Well, I said it before and I'll say it again. The masculine gays are the ones that are hidden in the closet and not coming out. So blame THEM.

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I hear you but I respectfully disagree with this statement and we have to stop pushing this narrative that masculinity equals closeted and afraid to come out. Because it's not always that. Especially recently. My experience with a lot of more masculine gay men is not that they have an issue coming out or accepting who they are or admitting who they are. They just don't feel the need to PROMOTE it or wear it in everything they say, do, or support. In other words, being gay doesn't define them. There's a difference between DL and just a masculine homosexual and we cannot always push this idea that one belongs to the other.

Do most gay men have feminine tendencies that may surface from time to time? Sure. Absolutely. But I don't believe we are one-trick ponies per say. And I agree with a previous post regarding Lil Nas and his fame being a way for him to come out and be himself.

Again, all for the freedom of expression. I just want more of a MIX in the midst. We fight so hard for people to not put us in boxes. For people to not stereotype us (black folks). For people to not think one size fits all. When you see a black men with his pants handing off his ass walking down the street, don't assume that I'm that same man; don't stereotype me. And then we as a black community fight for more representation OUTSIDE of that stereotype.

I believe the same thing applies to the gay community and quite honestly, I'm just tired of seeing the same ole folks carrying the torch.

I honestly look forward to the day where being gay is just a "oh yea and btw" not a "did you know? Can you believe?".

I was speaking specifically about black gay artists in the entertainment industry - not in general. And all Im saying is that based on what Ive seen, it's more likely for an artist like Khalid to come out as gay than an artist like Nate Dogg.