You may have to zoom in to read. Of course I'm aware of colorist in our community, but this is still kind of an eye opener for me.
(http://a65.tinypic.com/v3klfd.jpg)
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Yep. That's why is what cool when girls like Nia Long, Alysia Rogers, and other brown-skinned beauties got their roles. I can't readily think of an example with a brown girl being the chosen one with a light-skinned sidekick, though.
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This is so true when u think about it. N @ the receipts.
A mess
More media brainwashing
I mean
Is this strictly when there are 2 female friends?
this is true but I've always liked the darker skinned girls better.
They were way more entertaining
always heard ppl say the cartoon was a direct copy of Martin in so many ways
But there has been plenty of times where the darker skinned girl is winning in whatever movie or show
I never really got classy professional etc from Gina or Penny nor did I think about Pam & Dijonay being unruly ghetto whatever. I just watched and enjoyed the show.
Nia & Paula are pretty much the same complexion but they both played these roles in Friday.
Quote from: ssw4919 on December 26, 2016, 03:31:03 PM
I can't readily think of an example with a brown girl being the chosen one with a light-skinned sidekick, though.
hmmm
Gabrielle Union is usually the main character
on Deliver Us From Eva, and Being Mary Jane her friends are lighter
And what's wrong with being ghetto anyway? Why does it have to be a negative thing?
This mess wouldn't even exist if the black community weren't so divided.
Quote from: Drais. on December 26, 2016, 03:44:46 PM
I never really got classy professional etc from Gina or Penny nor did I think about Pam & Dijonay being unruly ghetto whatever. I just watched and enjoyed the show.
Nia & Paula are pretty much the same complexion but they both played these roles in Friday.
mnndjdjsjjsb
I see penny & Dijonnay as ghetto and Gina as professional
Wasn't she a top business gorl?
Whitney was the main in the Bodyguard and her light-skinned sister tried to sleep with her man
and ended up getting killed
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 26, 2016, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: Drais. on December 26, 2016, 03:44:46 PM
I never really got classy professional etc from Gina or Penny nor did I think about Pam & Dijonay being unruly ghetto whatever. I just watched and enjoyed the show.
Nia & Paula are pretty much the same complexion but they both played these roles in Friday.
mnndjdjsjjsb
I see penny & Dijonnay as ghetto and Gina as professional
Wasn't she a top business gorl?
I can't remember but she didn't give me high society and elite teas. And I always thought Pam was just funny.
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 26, 2016, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: Drais. on December 26, 2016, 03:44:46 PM
I never really got classy professional etc from Gina or Penny nor did I think about Pam & Dijonay being unruly ghetto whatever. I just watched and enjoyed the show.
Nia & Paula are pretty much the same complexion but they both played these roles in Friday.
mnndjdjsjjsb
I see penny & Dijonnay as ghetto and Gina as professional
Wasn't she a top business gorl?
Gina and Pam worked at a marketing firm I believe
I mean look at Moesha
Not always the case but this is a mess
there are a few exceptions to the rule...but the black men I've had to read for putting dark skinned women down, usually cite these tropes
They're both black....
:udontlookok:
Quote from: AYR on December 26, 2016, 03:48:37 PM
Whitney was the main in the Bodyguard and her light-skinned sister tried to sleep with her man
and ended up getting killed
I think there are exceptions to the rule but an exception isnt the RULE. The fact that u can pick out moments in time where it went against the grain is evident of how rare it is. I think the majority of the time it's this way. When u reach a certain level of stardom u transcend certain things. That was Whitney, I think
Quote from: Drais. on December 26, 2016, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 26, 2016, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: Drais. on December 26, 2016, 03:44:46 PM
I never really got classy professional etc from Gina or Penny nor did I think about Pam & Dijonay being unruly ghetto whatever. I just watched and enjoyed the show.
Nia & Paula are pretty much the same complexion but they both played these roles in Friday.
mnndjdjsjjsb
I see penny & Dijonnay as ghetto and Gina as professional
Wasn't she a top business gorl?
I can't remember but she didn't give me high society and elite teas. And I always thought Pam was just funny.
Gina didnt give high elite, she came across as sweeter and the likeable one for men
Quote from: Vonc2002 on December 26, 2016, 03:55:32 PM
Quote from: AYR on December 26, 2016, 03:48:37 PM
Whitney was the main in the Bodyguard and her light-skinned sister tried to sleep with her man
and ended up getting killed
I think there are exceptions to the rule but an exception isnt the RULE. The fact that u can pick out moments in time where it went against the grain is evident of how rare it is. I think the majority of the time it's this way. When u reach a certain level of stardom u transcend certain things. That was Whitney, I think
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on December 26, 2016, 03:55:32 PM
Quote from: AYR on December 26, 2016, 03:48:37 PM
Whitney was the main in the Bodyguard and her light-skinned sister tried to sleep with her man
and ended up getting killed
I think there are exceptions to the rule but an exception isnt the RULE. The fact that u can pick out moments in time where it went against the grain is evident of how rare it is. I think the majority of the time it's this way. When u reach a certain level of stardom u transcend certain things. That was Whitney, I think
I agree
Quote from: TAE! on December 26, 2016, 03:26:53 PM
You may have to zoom in to read. Of course I'm aware of colorist in our community, but this is still kind of an eye opener for me.
(http://a65.tinypic.com/v3klfd.jpg)
(http://a63.tinypic.com/2utpwsx.jpg)
,
I don't think this post meant it's done ALL the time lol.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on December 26, 2016, 03:55:32 PM
Quote from: AYR on December 26, 2016, 03:48:37 PM
Whitney was the main in the Bodyguard and her light-skinned sister tried to sleep with her man
and ended up getting killed
I think there are exceptions to the rule but an exception isnt the RULE. The fact that u can pick out moments in time where it went against the grain is evident of how rare it is. I think the majority of the time it's this way. When u reach a certain level of stardom u transcend certain things. That was Whitney, I think
!!!! Perfectly said.
This is dumb
These same tropes are in white comedies as well.
The main girls sidekick is always the complete opposite of her and is usually more brash
This is why Insecure is so ground breaking.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 26, 2016, 04:34:11 PM
This is why Insecure is so ground breaking.
is this on hulu?
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 26, 2016, 04:34:11 PM
This is why Insecure is so ground breaking.
yea, I thought of this instantly
Quote from: Uni on December 26, 2016, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 26, 2016, 04:34:11 PM
This is why Insecure is so ground breaking.
is this on hulu?
its only on the HBO mess
But I watch online bc I'm a starz gorl :justabit:
I was just thinking about this the other day. I was watching Girlfriends and marveling and the diversity: the show boasted an ensemble cast of four Black women of different shades. Insecure is a great example of people fighting against this trope.
this opens a door for conversation about colorism in general.
It's not a one-way thing. Media reflects what people believe, and people's beliefs are shaped by what they constantly see depicted in the media.
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 04:48:28 PM
Quote from: Damnation on December 26, 2016, 04:46:27 PM
this opens a door for conversation about colorism in general.
Exactly. They're only going to put what they think people want to see on TV. Unless they intentionally wanna be edgy and challenge the norm
and doing so is a money risk, which to a lot of companies is not worth breaking racial grounds for. They'll forego the power they have to instill change in society just for the profit.
Colorism started before slavery.
Smh.
Kinda crazy how we don't consciously notice stuff like this.
v
I'm sorry but it's just reflection of reality but colorism! tho
lknklmsmdgk :guys:
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on December 26, 2016, 04:53:58 PM
It's not a one-way thing. Media reflects what people believe, and people's beliefs are shaped by what they constantly see depicted in the media.
I see.
But from what I remember, colorism within our community began in the fields and the master's house.
Not Channel 9.
A finger should definitely be pointed at Willie before its pointed at Martin
Sure, but people halve been critical about colorism as soon as it began. They'be been critical of it in the media since media has been around. The people and the media are both responsible for how they perpetuate colorism.
Quote from: imani on December 26, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
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I'm sorry but it's just reflection of reality but colorism! tho
:omgwatshappening:
i dont know about the martin example
they clowned Gina just as much, and they both had the same job
Quote from: imani on December 26, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
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I'm sorry but it's just reflection of reality but colorism! tho
are you saying dark girls are innately more uncouth than light skinned girls? :plzstop:
I think usually the main is just light, and before everybody is white they give the funny ghetto sidekick slot to a dark one.
Brandy and Countess are the same color but they fit these archetypes in comedy. The put together pretty one, and the obnoxious ghetto sidekick.
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: \dē-ˈā-gō\ on December 26, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
Colorism started before slavery.
Africans had a color caste system over in Ghana before we were snatched and transported across the pond?
:everythingok: well it for sure existed in India wayyyyy before the Atlantic slave trade
Quote from: imani on December 26, 2016, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: \dē-ˈā-gō\ on December 26, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
Colorism started before slavery.
Africans had a color caste system over in Ghana before we were snatched and transported across the pond?
:everythingok: well it for sure existed in India wayyyyy before the Atlantic slave trade
This cannot be proven. People still debate these things. But back then if at all it wasn't about being mixed or closer to white but about who had to work in the sun and on the fields. It was a sign of class not racial inferiority.
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: \dē-ˈā-gō\ on December 26, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
Colorism started before slavery.
Africans had a color caste system over in Ghana before we were snatched and transported across the pond?
Colorism started before slavery.
Quote from: شيطان on December 26, 2016, 05:18:15 PM
Quote from: imani on December 26, 2016, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: \dē-ˈā-gō\ on December 26, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
Colorism started before slavery.
Africans had a color caste system over in Ghana before we were snatched and transported across the pond?
:everythingok: well it for sure existed in India wayyyyy before the Atlantic slave trade
This cannot be proven. People still debate these things. But back then if at all it wasn't about being mixed or closer to white but about who had to work in the sun and on the fields. It was a sign of class not racial inferiority.
In the ancient Indian scripture of the Ramayana, there?s a scene that depicts a fight between a noble, fair-skinned king from the north, and an evil dark-skinned king from the south. According to an explanation of the Ramayana published through UCLA, this tale may date back as far as 1500 BCE.
http://colorismhealing.org/colorism-roots-and-routes/
kjjkh
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
We were talking about the Indian community/Bollywood in here?
If we're talking in general just let me know. I thought this was specifically about the Black community
There are elements to our challenges that are very unique. There's even now a thing called "texturism".
n
here you go with this shit...
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Lol
Didn't Gina and Pam work at the same job?
they just had different personalities :diddraispoot:
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 05:35:52 PM
Lol
Didn't Gina and Pam work at the same job?
they just had different personalities :diddraispoot:
but still Gina was the lead of the show and Pam was the second banana, even though she was way funnier.
Quote from: ssw4919 on December 26, 2016, 03:31:03 PM
Yep. That's why is what cool when girls like Nia Long, Alysia Rogers, and other brown-skinned beauties got their roles. I can't readily think of an example with a brown girl being the chosen one with a light-skinned sidekick, though.
Nia is a light hue of brown to me
She's definitely low fat caramel color
n
Well most these black celeb men "in real life" go out and Marry light skin women. :dead:
Is it colorism or a reflection?
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 05:52:35 PM
Well most these black celeb men "in real life" go out and Marry light skin women. :dead:
Is it colorism or a reflection?
s
Yep I agree. And although I do think colorism exists
I do feel like some darker ppl always have a complaint anytime somebody lighter achieves something
Like Tisha is a damn good actress. It just fit their personalities. Gina was the one who needed a man, Pam was more strong willed. If anything shouldn't that be a compliment :dead:
It is as if dark skin represents masculinity, the way the woman is ALWAYS lighter
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 26, 2016, 05:55:34 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 05:52:35 PM
Well most these black celeb men "in real life" go out and Marry light skin women. :dead:
Is it colorism or a reflection?
s
Yep I agree. And although I do think colorism exists
I do feel like some darker ppl always have a complaint anytime somebody lighter achieves something
Like Tisha is a damn good actress. It just fit their personalities. Gina was the one who needed a man, Pam was more strong willed. If anything shouldn't that be a compliment :dead:
Plus Martin and Gina were a couple on House party :dead:
It made sense to cast her as the lead love interest
:udontlookok:
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 26, 2016, 05:55:34 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 05:52:35 PM
Well most these black celeb men "in real life" go out and Marry light skin women. :dead:
Is it colorism or a reflection?
s
Yep I agree. And although I do think colorism exists
I do feel like some darker ppl always have a complaint anytime somebody lighter achieves something
Like Tisha is a damn good actress. It just fit their personalities. Gina was the one who needed a man, Pam was more strong willed. If anything shouldn't that be a compliment :dead:
:plzstop:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 26, 2016, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: imani on December 26, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
v
I'm sorry but it's just reflection of reality but colorism! tho
are you saying dark girls are innately more uncouth than light skinned girls? :plzstop:
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Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 26, 2016, 05:47:46 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on December 26, 2016, 03:31:03 PM
Yep. That's why is what cool when girls like Nia Long, Alysia Rogers, and other brown-skinned beauties got their roles. I can't readily think of an example with a brown girl being the chosen one with a light-skinned sidekick, though.
Nia is a light hue of brown to me
She's definitely low fat caramel color
I almost peed myself @ low fat caramel
I mean.... but the down south is not a reflection on the overall black reality :dead:
And neither is living in a big city
I get it. But I don't 100% agree on this thread
:udontlookok:
wow this is so true
am mean .... it exists... but we have to be very careful when calling it out by situation
I used to think Beyonce's rise to fame was colorism, until I saw that Kelly don't like to do shit right and heard LaTavia's voice..... they DID sabotage LeToya because she was better than Bey, but I don't think Bey taking off after that was due to colorism.
she was just lighter and better. It happens sometimes
just like I'm sure Lynn Whitfield isn't at home crying because they cast a dark, more rough person for that How to Get Away With Murder
and Tasia won American Idol.... she's dark too
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 26, 2016, 06:11:56 PM
am mean .... it exists... but we have to be very careful when calling it out by situation
I used to think Beyonce's rise to fame was colorism, until I saw that Kelly don't like to do shit right and heard LaTavia's voice..... they DID sabotage LeToya because she was better than Bey, but I don't think Bey taking off after that was due to colorism.
she was just lighter and better. It happens sometimes
just like I'm sure Lynn Whitfield isn't at home crying because they cast a dark, more rough person for that How to Get Away With Murder
and Tasia won American Idol.... she's dark too
:dead:
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 05:58:45 PM
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 26, 2016, 05:55:34 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 05:52:35 PM
Well most these black celeb men "in real life" go out and Marry light skin women. :dead:
Is it colorism or a reflection?
s
Yep I agree. And although I do think colorism exists
I do feel like some darker ppl always have a complaint anytime somebody lighter achieves something
Like Tisha is a damn good actress. It just fit their personalities. Gina was the one who needed a man, Pam was more strong willed. If anything shouldn't that be a compliment :dead:
Plus Martin and Gina were a couple on House party :dead:
n
no they werent :dead:
I'm giggling!
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on December 26, 2016, 03:31:03 PM
I can't readily think of an example with a brown girl being the chosen one with a light-skinned sidekick, though.
It happens sometimes.
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nnnnn
I see that pic is when it didnt happen though
s
why the hell did they photoshop most of Chilli's melanin away and plop her in the middle?
:guys:
Quote from: AYR on December 26, 2016, 06:13:10 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 05:58:45 PM
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 26, 2016, 05:55:34 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 05:52:35 PM
Well most these black celeb men "in real life" go out and Marry light skin women. :dead:
Is it colorism or a reflection?
s
Yep I agree. And although I do think colorism exists
I do feel like some darker ppl always have a complaint anytime somebody lighter achieves something
Like Tisha is a damn good actress. It just fit their personalities. Gina was the one who needed a man, Pam was more strong willed. If anything shouldn't that be a compliment :dead:
Plus Martin and Gina were a couple on House party :dead:
n
no they werent :dead:
Oh yeah that was Kid
:udontlookok:
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 06:15:40 PM
Quote from: AYR on December 26, 2016, 06:14:44 PM
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on December 26, 2016, 03:31:03 PM
I can't readily think of an example with a brown girl being the chosen one with a light-skinned sidekick, though.
It happens sometimes.
(http://cdn.stupiddope.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/CrazySexyCool_VH1-500x323.jpg)
nnnnn
I see
Usher's album getting deleted off of my ITunes :udontlookok:
bhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
sorry
Chilli really is the prettiest of the group
:sistas:
Ray wants to suck Usher's dick
Afro just reminded me though
Coko, Kameelah, Kandi, Pam
dark girls in groups were kinda that IN thing in the 90s
Chilli ain't no damn dark skin😂
:omgwatshappening:
And this is why I support black women dating outside the black community! They have too much stacked against them to be waiting on an ideal black man.
1. Black men in the prison system at disproportionate amounts
2. Black men on the DL
3. Black men date other races at a much higher percentage
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
5. The black community promotes sharing dick
6. "Decent" black men have no competition so they play the field for as long as they can
Quote from: AlmondEyes on December 26, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
And this is why I support black women dating outside the black community! They have too much stacked against them to be waiting on an ideal black man.
1. Black men in the prison system at disproportionate amounts
2. Black men on the DL
3. Black men date other races at a much higher percentage
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
5. The black community promotes sharing dick
6. "Decent" black men have no competition so they play the field for as long as they can
n
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 05:58:45 PM
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 26, 2016, 05:55:34 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 05:52:35 PM
Well most these black celeb men "in real life" go out and Marry light skin women. :dead:
Is it colorism or a reflection?
s
Yep I agree. And although I do think colorism exists
I do feel like some darker ppl always have a complaint anytime somebody lighter achieves something
Like Tisha is a damn good actress. It just fit their personalities. Gina was the one who needed a man, Pam was more strong willed. If anything shouldn't that be a compliment :dead:
Plus Martin and Gina were a couple on House party :dead:
It made sense to cast her as the lead love interest
:udontlookok:
f no they werent
Chile....
Quote from: AYR on December 26, 2016, 06:19:26 PM
Afro just reminded me though
Coko, Kameelah, Kandi, Pam
dark girls in groups were kinda that IN thing in the 90s
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you can be dark and slay.... but you can't buy into the typical
"oh I'm rough! n loud" Kandi wasn't lead tho
it takes finesse and you can really sex it up a bit
(http://missxpose.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/LaTocha-Scott-2012-3_jpg_crop_display.jpg)
(http://madamenoire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/latocha-Be.jpg)
being darker don't stop a true slay :kii:
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 26, 2016, 06:23:55 PM
being darker don't stop a true slay :kii:
why did you laugh? :guys:
Quote from: AlmondEyes on December 26, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
And this is why I support black women dating outside the black community! They have too much stacked against them to be waiting on an ideal black man.
1. Black men in the prison system at disproportionate amounts
2. Black men on the DL
3. Black men date other races at a much higher percentage
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
5. The black community promotes sharing dick
6. "Decent" black men have no competition so they play the field for as long as they can
Kinda agree. LOL!!
:letsmessfag:
:ohwow::young::ohwow:
:kii:
was it Chilli that was boasting about being Indian and Native American?
Chilli is a broke ho
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 06:26:20 PM
Quote from: AYR on December 26, 2016, 06:19:26 PM
Afro just reminded me though
Coko, Kameelah, Kandi, Pam
dark girls in groups were kinda that IN thing in the 90s
yeah, 'fas is the one that changed up the formula tbh.
thats why its so dumb when ppl do this "oh they wanted Bey to be the lightest"
thing haters say
if Kelly had the talent she couldve had DC sell like Pam from Total
rocking the short cut
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 26, 2016, 06:23:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on December 26, 2016, 06:19:26 PM
Afro just reminded me though
Coko, Kameelah, Kandi, Pam
dark girls in groups were kinda that IN thing in the 90s
it takes finesse and you can really sex it up a bit
(http://missxpose.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/LaTocha-Scott-2012-3_jpg_crop_display.jpg)
(http://madamenoire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/latocha-Be.jpg)
KSMDMNAMMDMFMMANDM'NAMDNNMNMCNMVNMFMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AzZbV1KpKSg/Te9TfUw02fI/AAAAAAAAAaY/mVUarOeHlgw/s1600/IMG-20110608-00103.jpg)
Mary wears blonde wigs
Hmph!
(http://www.thisisyourconscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/mary-j-blige-on-roids.jpg)
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 26, 2016, 06:52:26 PM
Quote from: AYR on December 26, 2016, 06:48:05 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on December 26, 2016, 06:44:29 PM
Mary wears blonde wigs
Mary, Faith, Whitney, Eve etc
do they also tell L'Oreal to .... enhance..their pics as well
doubt anyone can tell a multi-million dollar corp what to do with their pics
its the other way around if anything
F
Oh now yall wanna discuss, plea.
Quote from: AlmondEyes on December 26, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
And this is why I support black women dating outside the black community! They have too much stacked against them to be waiting on an ideal black man.
1. Black men in the prison system at disproportionate amounts
2. Black men on the DL
3. Black men date other races at a much higher percentage
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
5. The black community promotes sharing dick
6. "Decent" black men have no competition so they play the field for as long as they can
well preach then KING!
Quote from: Kurama on December 26, 2016, 07:09:16 PM
Oh now yall wanna discuss, plea.
damn you're pissed.
(http://i.imgur.com/6odUWE9.png)
d
oh wait, that was Ray defending her rocking blonde weaves
disregard it, Raymond
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Quote from: AlmondEyes on December 26, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
And this is why I support black women dating outside the black community! They have too much stacked against them to be waiting on an ideal black man.
1. Black men in the prison system at disproportionate amounts
2. Black men on the DL
3. Black men date other races at a much higher percentage
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
5. The black community promotes sharing dick
6. "Decent" black men have no competition so they play the field for as long as they can
Oh god
who said texturism
Quote from: AlmondEyes on December 26, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
And this is why I support black women dating outside the black community! They have too much stacked against them to be waiting on an ideal black man.
1. Black men in the prison system at disproportionate amounts
2. Black men on the DL
3. Black men date other races at a much higher percentage
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
5. The black community promotes sharing dick
6. "Decent" black men have no competition so they play the field for as long as they can
sssssss
Yeah with the way they're treated like shit by rappers in videos and just by the media and the community period
Every time I see a black womuh get a non black man I'm like 'get your pale king then'
:cheerup:
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 26, 2016, 06:29:03 PM
was it Chilli that was boasting about being Indian and Native American?
bbbvvcccccc
Quote from: AlmondEyes on December 26, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
g
Like Black women aren't fawning over light skin/mixed men and trying to make cute babies with good hair.
Black women are the pits just like black straight men are.
all this self hate in here
:plzstop:
Quote from: pettypatty on December 26, 2016, 06:06:49 PM
I get it. But I don't 100% agree on this thread
I feel the same
Quote
Indians aren't told/taught that almost EVERY element of their being is unattractive.
From their skin, to their hair, to their God given features.
h
yes they are for the most part
Quote from: Drais. on December 27, 2016, 08:03:44 AM
Quote from: AlmondEyes on December 26, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
g
Like Black women aren't fawning over light skin/mixed men and trying to make cute babies with good hair.
Black women are the pits just like black straight men are.
!!!!
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 27, 2016, 08:07:48 AM
Quote from: Drais. on December 27, 2016, 08:03:44 AM
Quote from: AlmondEyes on December 26, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
g
Like Black women aren't fawning over light skin/mixed men and trying to make cute babies with good hair.
Black women are the pits just like black straight men are.
:guys:
But one could argue that some Black women grow up to be that way because of their childhoods.
:gotchafag:
I'm sure alot of people grow up a certain way based on their childhood. That isn't exclusive to black women.
Alot of them walk around with a chip on their shoulder mad at the world but aren't even trying to make a change or stop the cycle of hate. They willingly pass it on to the next generation.
Black people need to get it together.
,nsdDDDDDDD
so it just looks like we can agree that black people as a whole are still fcked up
:cheerup:
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 27, 2016, 08:12:08 AM
Quote from: Drais. on December 27, 2016, 08:10:13 AM
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 27, 2016, 08:07:48 AM
Quote from: Drais. on December 27, 2016, 08:03:44 AM
Quote from: AlmondEyes on December 26, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
g
Like Black women aren't fawning over light skin/mixed men and trying to make cute babies with good hair.
Black women are the pits just like black straight men are.
:guys:
But one could argue that some Black women grow up to be that way because of their childhoods.
:gotchafag:
I'm sure alot of people grow up a certain way based on their childhood. That isn't exclusive to black women.
Alot of them walk around with a chip on their shoulder mad at the world but aren't even trying to make a change or stop the cycle of hate. They willingly pass it on to the next generation.
Black people need to get it together.
Drais :guys:
But I agree. I was so surprised to see that 'fas didn't have a 30 inch horse tail sewed into Blu's head soon as they cut the umbilical cord. :plzstop:
She's a shining example of how just because you were raised a certain way, and even being in the entertainment industry for YEARS, the most shallow place on Earth....she still didn't pass it down. Even when they were dragging Blu for points. I'm sure she saw all of that mess going down on the internet.
Do you wanna fight?
:guys:
Why are black women made to feel they should "embrace them selves"?
Everyone borrows something from other races.
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 27, 2016, 08:18:05 AM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:11:56 AM
,nsdDDDDDDD
so it just looks like we can agree that black people as a whole are still fcked up
:cheerup:
pret' much. :overit: :jackiessales:
But progress is being made. :butwait!:
I'm seeing more and more of my sisters embracing their God given beauty and standing in their truth. Most of my Black female coworkers are natural. :welllol:
Except one. :plzstop: But she's...special. Half Native American self.
!!
Yeah it's really refreshing looking @ my facebook and seeing all my friends that were WEAVED down wearing their natural mess now
I mean, some of them look a MESS :diddraispoot:
But I understand. If you've been wearing fake hair all of your life, it may be a challenge trying something new at first. Either way it's HUGE progress.
The natural mess wasn't a thing a decade ago, at ALL.
I sooooo love that black people are realizing that they are perfect the way they were born, just like everyone else.
im so glad im a man
ugh
i could get fat and no one would bat an eye
"oh beer belly! bear!"
:feelinmyself:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:27:53 AM
im so glad im a man
ugh
i could get fat and no one would bat an eye
"oh beer belly! bear!"
:feelinmyself:
gdjdgekgrr
This lie
You would still be judged sis
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:28:54 AM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:27:53 AM
im so glad im a man
ugh
i could get fat and no one would bat an eye
"oh beer belly! bear!"
:feelinmyself:
gdjdgekgrr
This lie
You would still be judged sis
a man can totally transform his look and be this big HUSKY man
just grow some hair and look a scruffy fool :overit:
women cant get away with being fat. ever.
Adele is fat and the most successful singer out shitting on the coke bottle girls
faggot
those gay fans arent trying to FUCK Adele
Are you on drugs?
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 27, 2016, 08:31:28 AM
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:28:54 AM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:27:53 AM
im so glad im a man
ugh
i could get fat and no one would bat an eye
"oh beer belly! bear!"
:feelinmyself:
gdjdgekgrr
This lie
You would still be judged sis
In the gay community he would. :plzstop:
But generally, men get away with a LOT of shit.
oh yeah this was excluding the gays
everything is wrong in this community :overit:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:27:53 AM
im so glad im a man
ugh
i could get fat and no one would bat an eye
"oh beer belly! bear!"
:feelinmyself:
!!!
in terms of aesthetics I feel like it's easier being a black man than a woman
Men don't have to conform to the whole "black is beautiful" look like women do jjjj
when women do, they get flack from black men for looking too much like ajak deng and from white men for not looking like beyonce :dead:
they have to find a medium to please everyone
These lies
As a gay man I feel the pressure to always be perfect, always have my body snatched and to never step out the house looking a mess
I see straight men perch in their jeans, new balances and gap t shirts and am jealous. I could never do that.
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:35:50 AM
These lies
As a gay man I feel the pressure to always be perfect, always have my body snatched and to never step out the house looking a mess
I see straight men perch in their jeans, new balances and gap t shirts and am jealous. I could never do that.
g
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:35:50 AM
These lies
As a gay man I feel the pressure to always be perfect, always have my body snatched and to never step out the house looking a mess
I see straight men perch in their jeans, new balances and gap t shirts and am jealous. I could never do that.
you just...
this is what i just said
:diddraispoot:
and TBH darkerskinned women have always have it tough
even in Africa before coloisum took full effect there are excepts from various places describing the ideal look in a woman
QuoteThere is evidence, however, that this aesthetic preference is native to Africa. Ardener (1954) found it to be widespread among the Ibo of Nigeria, including generations born before the colonial period. In a survey of the Human Relations Area Files, van den Berghe and Frost (1986) noted a consistent cross-cultural preference for lighter skin in women but not in men. Sub-Saharan Africa is no exception, as shown by these extracts from the ethnographic literature:
Bambara (Mali) -
The Bambara are not unmoved by the beauty of a woman's form; they can distinguish a well-formed body from a malformed one, a pretty woman from an ugly one, and they find a coppery skin more attractive than one of ebony black. (Henry 1910:217)
Tallensi (Ghana) -
In skin colour they vary from black through chocolate brown to bronze, which the natives call "red" (bon-ze'e) and regard as the most attractive bodily hue. (Fortes 1945:7)
Hausa (Nigeria) -
Light skin colour, referred to as "red", ranks high in the Hausa criteria of beauty; many variations of colour, from black to a very light reddish brown are seen. (Smith 1965:264)
Ibo (Nigeria) -
In Ibo culture, however, these yellowish or reddish complexions are considered more beautiful than the darker, ?blacker,? complexions. ... It is true that, in West Africa, government has for many years been identified with pale-skinned Europeans, but the Ibo evidence suggests that preference for paleness of complexion is indigenous. (Ardener 1954:71-72)
Azande (Sudan) ?
Of the women and girls, some with babies, he kept the most beautiful in Zande eyes, those brightest of eye and clearest of skin and with full breasts, for his couch. (Evans-Pritchard 1937:60)
Berti (Sudan)
Men and women affirm without any hesitation that men are black, hot and hard and women are white, cold and soft. (Holy 1988:471)
Somali (Somalia) -
Men appreciate women of good height and stature, with good hips and breasts, and plump but not fat. A reddish tinged skin is thought highly of in preference to a dark dull black. (Lewis 1962:13)
Masai (Kenya, Tanzania) -
Further requirements for being regarded as beautiful are an oval face, white teeth, black gums, a skin color as light as possible ... (Merker 1910:18)
Rundi (Rwanda, Burundi) ?
Beauty does not count very heavily, but a man is not displeased if people notice that his wife is attractive and well-fleshed, has a long and narrow nose, a light skin, and is somewhat like a cow. (Albert 1963:203)
Ganda (Uganda) -
There is, in respect of the ordinary negroid complexion, a preference for paleness deeply rooted in the Ganda ideal of beauty. ... The Ganda concept of skin pigmentation considers light coloured complexions to be differing shades of white. A dark brown skin colour is said to be ? eruyeru, that is, somewhat white. A really brown-reddish-yellow person is said to be mweru = white, which in comparison would be considered to be blonde; and this in the Ganda aesthetic language is considered as red = myufu, the most perfect skin pigmentation. (Lugira 1970:34-35)
Nairobi (Kenya) ?
In the future the increasing use of skin lightening creams such as "Ambi" may eventually reduce the importance of natural skin color. But whatever the case, in Nairobi of the 1960?s, as throughout much of Kenya, the lighter "brown" girls are usually considered to be more beautiful than "black" girls ? and the more successful prostitutes are invariably "brown." (McVicar 1969:242)
Ila, Lunda, Luvale, and Chokwe (Zambia) -
Here too words meaning literally "white" are commonly used to refer to light skins though "red" may also be used. Light skins are admired just as much as is shown to occur among the Ibo, and young girls discussing the possible attractions of various young men have often been heard to emphasize "very black" as a point against someone. In the past at least one attraction of a light skin apart from its intrinsic appeal was the fact that the tattooing stood out against it in strong contrast. Very black skins are not infrequently thought to go hand in hand with inherited witchcraft and a light skin to indicate its absence. Dark-skinned women conscious of their possible disadvantage have been heard to tell men that light-skinned women will be found to be sexually unsatisfying. (White 1954)
Ngoni (Malawi) -
Young men say that what they like in a girl is a light skin colour, a pretty face, and the ability to dance and to copulate well. (Barnes 1951:30)
Kgatla (Botswana) -
... the generally admired type is a light-skinned girl of somewhat heavy build, with prominent breasts and large, firm buttocks. (Schapera 1966: 46)
Quote from: Drais. on December 27, 2016, 08:03:44 AM
Quote from: AlmondEyes on December 26, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
4. Black men prefer light skinned/good hair
g
Like Black women aren't fawning over light skin/mixed men and trying to make cute babies with good hair.
Black women are the pits just like black straight men are.
great point
Being a man >
You still need to keep yourself up though.
I don't see how these gurs go around being 300 pounds with their flab hanging out and wrinkled ass/dusty looking clothes. Beards looking unkempt, hair too.
Some men :uhh:
Women have it sooo much easier.
They can perch in the damn store with hair rollers, a long t shirt and no pants and nobody bats a lash :uhh:
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:35:50 AM
These lies
As a gay man I feel the pressure to always be perfect, always have my body snatched and to never step out the house looking a mess
I see straight men perch in their jeans, new balances and gap t shirts and am jealous. I could never do that.
You must be ugly.
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:42:29 AM
Women have it sooo much easier.
They can perch in the damn store with hair rollers, a long t shirt and no pants and nobody bats a lash :uhh:
v
but those are things that can be changed in 5 mins
now imagine her fat and throw her in a bar and tell me how many men will RUSH towards her
:overit:
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 27, 2016, 08:43:07 AM
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:35:50 AM
These lies
As a gay man I feel the pressure to always be perfect, always have my body snatched and to never step out the house looking a mess
I see straight men perch in their jeans, new balances and gap t shirts and am jealous. I could never do that.
You must be ugly.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
I'm held to a higher standard because I'm cute.
When you're ugly u can just not give a shit
Am jealous.
i dunno what youre talking about anymore
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:46:45 AM
i dunno what youre talking about anymore
The pressures of being a light skinned gay man
must be a regional thing. Im thinking the opposite. I feel like unfortunate looking people have to do extra to get by. Attractive people can actually book attention and acceptance in a jeans and tshirt mess.
nnnnnnnnnnnnnm,,mm
oh
well i was talking about being a fat man vs a fat woman and being natural
not your insecurities
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 27, 2016, 08:48:41 AM
must be a regional thing. Im thinking the opposite. I feel like unfortunate looking people have to do extra to get by. Attractive people can actually book attention and acceptance in a jeans and tshirt mess.
chokeme is pons 2.0
:overit:
I just
i don't have sympathy for black women who's man leaves them for a gay man or white womah
That don't know how to treat their men
would nevah suck a dick or eat my man out
And they wonder why their men cheat
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:50:21 AM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 27, 2016, 08:48:41 AM
must be a regional thing. Im thinking the opposite. I feel like unfortunate looking people have to do extra to get by. Attractive people can actually book attention and acceptance in a jeans and tshirt mess.
chokeme is pons 2.0
:overit:
Omg really?
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 27, 2016, 08:48:41 AM
must be a regional thing. Im thinking the opposite. I feel like unfortunate looking people have to do extra to get by. Attractive people can actually book attention and acceptance in a jeans and tshirt mess.
I don't really ever see attractive people give average. They're usually always dressed better and look better in general
Yh what Lonz said
Ugly people try harder
r u guys calling cho' ug'?
I mean
If you can afford cute expensive clothes shouldn't you wear them?
(https://uploadir.com/u/e9zk9fgm)
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:57:35 AM
r u guys calling cho' ug'?
Did you mean 2.0 as in thats Pons, or 2.0 as in a less successful troll?
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 27, 2016, 08:48:41 AM
must be a regional thing. Im thinking the opposite. I feel like unfortunate looking people have to do extra to get by. Attractive people can actually book attention and acceptance in a jeans and tshirt mess.
Pretty much
You're not gonna catch me leaving the house like I'm going to the grammys on a daily basis. I don't have to do all that.
The only thing I really put effort into is my body, and that's because I like to not because I fell pressured or whatever.
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 27, 2016, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:57:35 AM
r u guys calling cho' ug'?
Did you mean 2.0 as in thats Pons, or 2.0 as in a less successful troll?
cxx
oh no thats not pons
just someone like him. a character. but weird. :dead: :dead:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 09:04:04 AM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 27, 2016, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:57:35 AM
r u guys calling cho' ug'?
Did you mean 2.0 as in thats Pons, or 2.0 as in a less successful troll?
cxx
oh no thats not pons
just someone like him. a character. but weird. :dead: :dead:
oh ok. Well then fuck that fag. Ugly ass.
I'm not taking a 3 piece mess owt
But an outfit.
I personally don't like to look thrown together
I mean my biggest role model Cher from clueless was a fashion Quee
Would never step out the house in a jean t shirt mess
Quote from: afro-asiatic. on December 27, 2016, 09:04:12 AM
Cho' has a point too though.
I've seen really attractive men overlooked because their dress wasn't on point.
Some people just look much better when they "clean up". Doesn't make them ugly but for some people it can definitely make or break them. If that makes sense. It's weird.
Same goes with a haircut/shapeup for some men.
Without their shape up I'm like :udontlookok: but when they get it it's like :omgwatshappening: damn
And all the barber did was line up their edges and mess. :plzstop: Or whatever it is they do
I said 'fat' specifically for a reason
Attractiveness changes person to person
Fatness in America, for the most part, does not
I dunno wtf cho' is talking about anymore :overit:
Fat is unattractive to me
They go hand and hand
I must agree with Lonz & Drais. Knowing that I'm conventually attractive I don't give zero fucks about fashion. Just throw on whatever lolz
Quote from: Drais. on December 27, 2016, 08:36:30 AM
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:35:50 AM
These lies
As a gay man I feel the pressure to always be perfect, always have my body snatched and to never step out the house looking a mess
I see straight men perch in their jeans, new balances and gap t shirts and am jealous. I could never do that.
g
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
:holdupguys:
I wish the fuck I would dress to the 9's every time I stepped outside. :udontlookok:
No ma'am
U have have to be able to dress
It's like what's the point of being cute if you look poor?
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 10:25:35 AM
It's like what's the point of being cute if
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
that's a BIG "if" Chard
:guys:
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 27, 2016, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 10:25:35 AM
It's like what's the point of being cute if
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
that's a BIG "if" Chard
:guys:
in crying
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 08:27:53 AM
im so glad im a man
ugh
i could get fat and no one would bat an eye
"oh beer belly! bear!"
:feelinmyself:
q
Maybe if you were straight
Keep reading the thread :overit:
But I also think it's how you were raised
That has a lot to do with it
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:31:44 AM
Adele is fat and the most successful singer out shitting on the coke bottle girls
she's the exception, not the... yk the rest
Quote from: Damnation on December 27, 2016, 10:45:10 AM
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:31:44 AM
Adele is fat and the most successful singer out shitting on the coke bottle girls
she's the exception, not the... yk the rest
Yeah
But how many fat successful male artists are there?
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 10:45:56 AM
Quote from: Damnation on December 27, 2016, 10:45:10 AM
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:31:44 AM
Adele is fat and the most successful singer out shitting on the coke bottle girls
she's the exception, not the... yk the rest
Yeah
But how many fat successful male artists are there?
More than there are females
And the fat bear thing is a fetish
Just like dudes have a fetish for fat girls sometimes
Nobody actually wants to be seen with them just mess a bit behind closed doors
Fccfxddssssssssssss
So in the end, you think it's easier for women to be unattractive than it is for men?
And instead of unattractive I'll say visually unkempt
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 10:49:31 AM
So in the end, you think it's easier for women to be unattractive than it is for men?
!!!!!!!!!!!
The only requirement for a womah is a puss TBH
Straight men don't really care
They're trash tbh
Freshman year the football team ran train on this ugly black deaf girl
I was so jealous
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 10:49:31 AM
So in the end, you think it's easier for women to be unattractive than it is for men?
!!!!!!!!!!!
The only requirement for a womah is a puss TBH
Straight men don't really care
They're trash tbh
are you having trouble getting laid... As a gay man?
:guys:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 10:54:43 AM
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on December 27, 2016, 10:49:31 AM
So in the end, you think it's easier for women to be unattractive than it is for men?
!!!!!!!!!!!
The only requirement for a womah is a puss TBH
Straight men don't really care
They're trash tbh
are you having trouble getting laid... As a gay man?
:guys:
No
It's just it's easier for women
(http://rsmg.pbsrc.com/albums/v649/codyfrijole2006/Animations/8.gif?w=480&h=480&fit=clip)
it is not easier for women.
Quote from: Chokeme on December 27, 2016, 08:45:47 AM
I'm held to a higher standard because I'm cute.
When you're ugly u can just not give a shit
Am jealous.
you got a fat ass?
I see more women looking a mess than men and nobody really cares
Quote from: شيطان on December 27, 2016, 10:20:00 AM
I must agree with Lonz & Drais. Knowing that I'm conventually attractive I don't give zero fucks about fashion. Just throw on whatever lolz
:plzstop:
Let's go shopping
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