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Title: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 02:46:45 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/damienxpat/status/1247746092814352384

Like wtf? Shut the fuck UP. This is so ridiculous. I'm moreso speaking on the part about withholding that info when the intent is romantic involvement
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 02:49:31 PM
:uhh:

https://mobile.twitter.com/damienxpat/status/1247820744983293958 (https://mobile.twitter.com/damienxpat/status/1247820744983293958)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 02:52:52 PM
I GUESS I get it for the Trannys. UNLESS you're going to be in a relationship.

But other than that ? EH. When you're trying to fuck someone you're not interested in their life story. Im def' not.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 02:54:27 PM
But for a FTM I guess they would need to say SOMETHING. Cause once those pants are off its kinda like...  :disgusted:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 02:57:19 PM
HOWEVER... this is the same fag that says No one with HIV should have to tell you their mess so...
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 02:58:37 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 02:57:19 PM
HOWEVER... this is the same fag that says No one with HIV should have to tell you their mess so...

no way  :dead: :kii:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BrokenHeartsHeal on April 08, 2020, 02:59:43 PM
I feel like... you KNOW what you're dealing with. Like 9 times out of 10. :hmph:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BigDawg on April 08, 2020, 03:00:43 PM
Nah full disclosure is a requirement 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 02:58:37 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 02:57:19 PM
HOWEVER... this is the same fag that says No one with HIV should have to tell you their mess so...

no way  :dead: :kii:
YES  :plzstop: and he's not the only gay on twitter to say this and get THOUSANDS on retweets.
its crazy
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:05:15 PM
romantically: yes

day-to-day life with random people: no

why is he confused?
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BigDawg on April 08, 2020, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:05:15 PM
romantically: yes

day-to-day life with random people: no

why is he confused?
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that
DSHMBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBF

wait.... you HAVE a point. I forgot they MARCH n mess shouting how proud they are.
Why disclose this information.  :plzstop:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that
DSHMBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBF

wait.... you HAVE a point. I forgot they MARCH n mess shouting how proud they are.
Why not disclose this information.  :plzstop:
yeah  :blink:
Why'd u wanna hide in the shadows? How effective is that for society.. according to their logic
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on April 08, 2020, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 02:46:45 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/damienxpat/status/1247746092814352384

Like wtf? Shut the fuck UP. This is so ridiculous. I'm moreso speaking on the part about withholding that info when the intent is romantic involvement
sssssss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_killed_for_being_transgender

my gosh...

you would think they'd ... see a different point of view by now
:roflmao:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on April 08, 2020, 03:23:34 PM
if keeping that secret means more than their life then ... by all means, remain silent

we'll hear about it on the news
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that
there's a stigma attached to it,unfortunately

like there is one to being gay still

I get it. Society is stupid and late as fuck on things (there are still men who believe a woman should only be a housewife, for instance) so not saying about anything about being trans is understandable. It ain't anyone's business--unless you plan to do anything sexual with a person. Let them make a choice if they want to be with you.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 03:24:48 PM
Quote from: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that
there's a stigma attached to it,unfortunately

like there is one to being gay still

I get it. Society is stupid and late as fuck on things (there are still men who believe a woman should only be a housewife, for instance) so not saying about anything about being trans is understandable. It ain't anyone's business--unless you plan to do anything sexual with a person. Let them make a choice if they want to be with you.

:unsure: so.... they feel shame
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 03:25:10 PM
I promise you if i SNIPPED my dick off everyone and they MAMA gone know 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:25:56 PM
le sigh  :-/
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 03:26:42 PM
 :disgusted:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:29:48 PM
:nowgorl:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 03:30:36 PM
(https://uploadir.com/u/af54y7ox)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sinpool on April 08, 2020, 03:31:52 PM
skcljnaknfcccccccccccccc

Oh girl It's not 1950, but 2020 ain't THAT progressive.

Don't be dumb girls.

Let these men know unless you know 100% you'll never see that naker again
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:36:22 PM
Quote from: Apollo XXI on April 08, 2020, 03:31:52 PM
skcljnaknfcccccccccccccc

Oh girl It's not 1950, but 2020 ain't THAT progressive.

Don't be dumb girls.

Let these men know unless you know 100% you'll never see that naker again
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: oph. on April 08, 2020, 03:43:02 PM
its really simple

no u don't have to tell any ole random person that you're trans

however

you OWE that information to a potential sexual/romantic partner

some people do no want to be with a trans person for their own reasons. the trans gorls know this. so when they opt to keep this a secret they are intentionally being DECEPTIVE.

they know there is a possibility a partner might reject them if they disclose being trans, so they keep it a secret. thats literally the only reason you would keep this from a potential partner.

and that is WRONG.

i don't even understand why some of them are so hell bent in tricking these niggas. i don't want anybody who don't want ME  :uhh:

also a lying trans + a unstable murderous fuckboy = a potentially deadly situation.

like i understand a trans gor being hesitant to just shout it from the rooftops. our society is growing but it aint there yet. however, there is NO excuse for not disclosing this to a potential partner. trans are obligated to share this info in THAT situation. absolutely no excuse or justification for no doing so.

patchwork selves
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 03:43:02 PM
its really simple

no u don't have to tell any ole random person that you're trans

however

you OWE that information to a potential sexual/romantic partner

some people do no want to be with a trans person for their own reasons. the trans gorls know this. so when they opt to keep this a secret they are intentionally being DECEPTIVE.

they know there is a possibility a partner might reject them if they disclose being trans, so they keep it a secret. thats literally the only reason you would keep this from a potential partner.

and that is WRONG.

i don't even understand why some of them are so hell bent in tricking these niggas. i don't want anybody who don't want ME  :uhh:

also a lying trans + a unstable murderous fuckboy = a potentially deadly situation.

like i understand a trans gor being hesitant to just shout it from the rooftops. our society is growing but it aint there yet. however, there is NO excuse for not disclosing this to a potential partner. trans are obligated to share this info in THAT situation. absolutely no excuse or justification for no doing so.

patchwork selves
Oph... bby
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l4KidbdmCPr9UHv56/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: DraeDrizzl3 on April 08, 2020, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that
there's a stigma attached to it,unfortunately

like there is one to being gay still

I get it. Society is stupid and late as fuck on things (there are still men who believe a woman should only be a housewife, for instance) so not saying about anything about being trans is understandable. It ain't anyone's business--unless you plan to do anything sexual with a person. Let them make a choice if they want to be with you.
I agree with this
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BigDawg on April 08, 2020, 03:54:48 PM
Quote from: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:36:22 PM
Quote from: Apollo XXI on April 08, 2020, 03:31:52 PM
skcljnaknfcccccccccccccc

Oh girl It's not 1950, but 2020 ain't THAT progressive.

Don't be dumb girls.

Let these men know unless you know 100% you'll never see that naker again
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BigDawg on April 08, 2020, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: heir. on April 08, 2020, 03:55:10 PM
I never tell ppl I'm part trans until I get to know them
How do they take it when you tell them? Does the reaction range from shock to aww?
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 03:58:43 PM
Afro shut the fuck up fdfdfdfdfd 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sinpool on April 08, 2020, 04:00:56 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 03:43:02 PM
its really simple

no u don't have to tell any ole random person that you're trans

however

you OWE that information to a potential sexual/romantic partner

some people do no want to be with a trans person for their own reasons. the trans gorls know this. so when they opt to keep this a secret they are intentionally being DECEPTIVE.

they know there is a possibility a partner might reject them if they disclose being trans, so they keep it a secret. thats literally the only reason you would keep this from a potential partner.

and that is WRONG.

i don't even understand why some of them are so hell bent in tricking these niggas. i don't want anybody who don't want ME  :uhh:

also a lying trans + a unstable murderous fuckboy = a potentially deadly situation.

like i understand a trans gor being hesitant to just shout it from the rooftops. our society is growing but it aint there yet. however, there is NO excuse for not disclosing this to a potential partner. trans are obligated to share this info in THAT situation. absolutely no excuse or justification for no doing so.

patchwork selves
Oph... bby
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l4KidbdmCPr9UHv56/giphy.gif)

d

boy stop pretending like you don't want them to lie so they can get shot
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BigDawg on April 08, 2020, 04:04:13 PM
Quote from: heir. on April 08, 2020, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on April 08, 2020, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: heir. on April 08, 2020, 03:55:10 PM
I never tell ppl I'm part trans until I get to know them
How do they take it when you tell them? Does the reaction range from shock to aww?
ndndndnjdjdndrnndndndnrnrnrnjrjrnrjjrndrnnddjjdenjdjejdj

They usually be like oh wow cool stuff
Well olrite now!!
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: DraeDrizzl3 on April 08, 2020, 04:11:45 PM
Quote from: heir. on April 08, 2020, 03:59:43 PM
I can't fuckin breathe
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: REALucid on April 08, 2020, 04:12:50 PM
This is how they get lashed
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on April 08, 2020, 04:21:43 PM
They don't need idiots like this speaking for them, that's for sure
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Kalifornia. on April 08, 2020, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that

!!!!
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 04:25:06 PM
Quote from: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that
there's a stigma attached to it,unfortunately

like there is one to being gay still

I get it. Society is stupid and late as fuck on things (there are still men who believe a woman should only be a housewife, for instance) so not saying about anything about being trans is understandable. It ain't anyone's business--unless you plan to do anything sexual with a person. Let them make a choice if they want to be with you.
yeah the sexual part is really what I think a lot of the girls are giving energy too..
Folks should know upfront before they walk into anything

Not sure why any trans would be ashamed of it or even tryna pass as men and women

Be proud in ur trans
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: heir. on April 08, 2020, 03:59:43 PM
I can't fuckin breathe
oh my god  :plzstop:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 04:12:50 PM
This is how they get lashed
!!!

Period
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Kalifornia. on April 08, 2020, 04:26:40 PM
Quote from: You'nt know nann ho! on April 08, 2020, 03:30:36 PM
(https://uploadir.com/u/af54y7ox)

sdvsdvfffffffffffffffffff
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Gilgamesh. on April 08, 2020, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: 🐇 on April 08, 2020, 04:21:43 PM
They don't need idiots like this speaking for them, that's for sure

:plzstop:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 06:54:08 PM
So I guess intentionally deceiving people and potentionally putting themselves in dangerous situations makes more sense to that circus freak
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on April 08, 2020, 06:58:46 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 06:54:08 PM
So I guess intentionally deceiving people and potentionally putting themselves in dangerous situations makes more sense to that circus freak
jdkdfjfjjff
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 06:59:16 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that

There is a difference between having pride and also being wise with who you choose to disclose that with because trans women are constantly in danger, being harmed, raped and killed because no one will give a damn. They're unfortunately disposable.

If someone were to share that they were trans here on this board, the amount of transphobia, harmful rhetoric and trolling that would take place....  :plzstop: There's real danger in telling folk you're trans.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:00:04 PM
Quote from: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that
there's a stigma attached to it,unfortunately

like there is one to being gay still

I get it. Society is stupid and late as fuck on things (there are still men who believe a woman should only be a housewife, for instance) so not saying about anything about being trans is understandable. It ain't anyone's business--unless you plan to do anything sexual with a person. Let them make a choice if they want to be with you.

!!!!!!
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:00:33 PM
Y'all know Glock is retarded 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: fedswatchin on April 08, 2020, 07:01:01 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 02:46:45 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/damienxpat/status/1247746092814352384

Like wtf? Shut the fuck UP. This is so ridiculous. I'm moreso speaking on the part about withholding that info when the intent is romantic involvement
I agree
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: fedswatchin on April 08, 2020, 07:01:27 PM
Like, that's purposefully playing games
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: fedswatchin on April 08, 2020, 07:02:56 PM
Quote from: Apollo XXI on April 08, 2020, 04:00:56 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 03:43:02 PM
its really simple

no u don't have to tell any ole random person that you're trans

however

you OWE that information to a potential sexual/romantic partner

some people do no want to be with a trans person for their own reasons. the trans gorls know this. so when they opt to keep this a secret they are intentionally being DECEPTIVE.

they know there is a possibility a partner might reject them if they disclose being trans, so they keep it a secret. thats literally the only reason you would keep this from a potential partner.

and that is WRONG.

i don't even understand why some of them are so hell bent in tricking these niggas. i don't want anybody who don't want ME  :uhh:

also a lying trans + a unstable murderous fuckboy = a potentially deadly situation.

like i understand a trans gor being hesitant to just shout it from the rooftops. our society is growing but it aint there yet. however, there is NO excuse for not disclosing this to a potential partner. trans are obligated to share this info in THAT situation. absolutely no excuse or justification for no doing so.

patchwork selves
Oph... bby
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l4KidbdmCPr9UHv56/giphy.gif)

d

boy stop pretending like you don't want them to lie so they can get shot
gvgvggvvvvvvvccccvvgtc
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:03:19 PM
And some of the rhetoric in here is dangerous which is why trans folk don't feel SAFE to disclose.

deceive!

No....y'all are just harmful.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: oph. on April 08, 2020, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:03:19 PM
And some of the rhetoric in here is dangerous which is why trans folk don't feel SAFE to disclose.

deceive!

No....y'all are just harmful.

so are you saying that deception plays NO part in regards to a trans individual not disclosing this to a potential sexual and/or romantic partner?
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on April 08, 2020, 07:15:51 PM
Eek faggots really lack empathy
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
What a trans identified person chooses to disclose to their partners is their business. If they feel SAFE and affirmed by their partner then be it as it may....do Y'ALL! But trans folk don't owe the general public anything or anyone for that matter anything.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:20:46 PM
And remove deception from your vocabulary. Trans folk take the necessary precautions to stay alive. The transphobia performed on this board is great example of surviving. And this is a bunch of anonymous niggas on the internet hiding behind a screen.

Think of how transphobia functions in our daily lives. It's very much so the byproduct of white Herero-patriarchy. 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: yummy on April 08, 2020, 07:21:56 PM
So, is this in regards to people you're dating or platonic relationships?

:udontlookok:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 07:23:41 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
What a trans identified person chooses to disclose to their partners is their business. If they feel SAFE and affirmed by their partner then be it as it may....do Y'ALL! But trans folk don't owe the general public anything or anyone for that matter anything.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: oph. on April 08, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
What a trans identified person chooses to disclose to their partners is their business. If they feel SAFE and affirmed by their partner then be it as it may....do Y'ALL! But trans folk don't owe the general public anything or anyone for that matter anything.

this is literal deception in addition to being selfish and completely self-serving. their partner has the RIGHT to decide wether or not they want to be with a trans a person. they don't have the right to take that choice from a potential partner.

also, why would a trans person even consider persueing a physical or romantic relationship with someone that they DIDN'T feel comfortable enough yo disclose their identity to?

see, any way you slice it, there just no justification gor keeping this from potential partners.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 07:26:01 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:03:19 PM
And some of the rhetoric in here is dangerous which is why trans folk don't feel SAFE to disclose.

deceive!

No....y'all are just harmful.

so are you saying that deception plays NO part in regards to a trans individual not disclosing this to a potential sexual and/or romantic partner?
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
What a trans identified person chooses to disclose to their partners is their business. If they feel SAFE and affirmed by their partner then be it as it may....do Y'ALL! But trans folk don't owe the general public anything or anyone for that matter anything.

this is literal deception in addition to being selfish and completely self-serving. their partner has the RIGHT to decide wether or not they want to be with a trans a person. they don't have the right to take that choice from a potential partner.

also, why would a trans person even consider persueing a physical or romantic relationship with someone that they DIDN'T feel comfortable enough yo disclose their identity to?

see, any way you slice it, there just no justification gor keeping this from potential partners.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:27:10 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
What a trans identified person chooses to disclose to their partners is their business. If they feel SAFE and affirmed by their partner then be it as it may....do Y'ALL! But trans folk don't owe the general public anything or anyone for that matter anything.

this is literal deception in addition to being selfish and completely self-serving. their partner has the RIGHT to decide wether or not they want to be with a trans a person. they don't have the right to take that choice from a potential partner.

also, why would a trans person even consider persueing a physical or romantic relationship with someone that they DIDN'T feel comfortable enough yo disclose their identity to?

see, any way you slice it, there just no justification gor keeping this from potential partners.

Love, I can't do your work for you. But I'll leave you with the words of Black feminist lesbian goddess Audre Lorde", you cannot dismantle the Master's house using the master's tools."

You, my love, are using the master's tools.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: REALucid on April 08, 2020, 07:27:27 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
What a trans identified person chooses to disclose to their partners is their business. If they feel SAFE and affirmed by their partner then be it as it may....do Y'ALL! But trans folk don't owe the general public anything or anyone for that matter anything.

this is literal deception in addition to being selfish and completely self-serving. their partner has the RIGHT to decide wether or not they want to be with a trans a person. they don't have the right to take that choice from a potential partner.

also, why would a trans person even consider persueing a physical or romantic relationship with someone that they DIDN'T feel comfortable enough yo disclose their identity to?

see, any way you slice it, there just no justification gor keeping this from potential partners.

!!!!
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:28:04 PM
I think it's already implied we arent talking about random Joes they pass by on the street

And yh how do you feel safe enough to date someone but not safe enough to be honest about who you are
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: oph. on April 08, 2020, 07:30:20 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:27:10 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
What a trans identified person chooses to disclose to their partners is their business. If they feel SAFE and affirmed by their partner then be it as it may....do Y'ALL! But trans folk don't owe the general public anything or anyone for that matter anything.

this is literal deception in addition to being selfish and completely self-serving. their partner has the RIGHT to decide wether or not they want to be with a trans a person. they don't have the right to take that choice from a potential partner.

also, why would a trans person even consider persueing a physical or romantic relationship with someone that they DIDN'T feel comfortable enough yo disclose their identity to?

see, any way you slice it, there just no justification gor keeping this from potential partners.

Love, I can't do your work for you. But I'll leave you with the words of Black feminist lesbian goddess Audre Lorde", you cannot dismantle the Master's house using the master's tools."

You, my love, are using the master's tools.

so basically you have no valid counterpoint. got it.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There's an assumption that trans folk should feel automatically safe when involved in intimate romantic relationships. That's untrue. There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.

It's the same thing when women are raped by their husbands, family members, relatives, etc. Folk who you often feel safe/close with can be those same folk who cause you a great deal of damage.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:34:06 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:00:33 PM
Y'all know Glock is retarded
fuck u
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 06:59:16 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that

There is a difference between having pride and also being wise with who you choose to disclose that with because trans women are constantly in danger, being harmed, raped and killed because no one will give a damn. They're unfortunately disposable.

If someone were to share that they were trans here on this board, the amount of transphobia, harmful rhetoric and trolling that would take place....  :plzstop: There's real danger in telling folk you're trans.
bjkln

there are a few trans girls here bby
and we treat them with respect and dont make it a thing

but they are honest about the mess
im sorry but if ur laying with someone.. it should be upfront and left for the other person to decide if they wanna proceed with the mess
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: REALucid on April 08, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
At the end of the day, it's just absurd to not disclose something as important as gender with someone you're dealing with intimately. There's no way around it. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you don't need to be interacting on that level. It's deceitful, flat out.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 07:37:00 PM
Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
At the end of the day, it's just absurd to not disclose something as important as gender with someone you're dealing with intimately. There's no way around it. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you don't need to be interacting on that level. It's deceitful, flat out.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 07:37:11 PM
this thread is about to make me cum 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh 
just be drag.. 

I wouldnt dare change my sex and not be proud of everything I am.. despite those that may question it or look down at it.
the only way we will move forward if girls are out loud with it.. and looking the part..and allowing us to live among them to change our ignorances and mess surrounding them.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:51 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 07:37:00 PM
Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
At the end of the day, it's just absurd to not disclose something as important as gender with someone you're dealing with intimately. There's no way around it. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you don't need to be interacting on that level. It's deceitful, flat out.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BigDawg on April 08, 2020, 07:38:56 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 07:37:00 PM
Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
At the end of the day, it's just absurd to not disclose something as important as gender with someone you're dealing with intimately. There's no way around it. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you don't need to be interacting on that level. It's deceitful, flat out.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.


Why would that happen? Why would the partner murder the trans person out of nowhere?
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh
just be drag..

Dndjjx why r u always ruining the moment

Damn dummy
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh
just be drag..

I wouldnt dare change my sex and not be proud of everything I am.. despite those that may question it or look down at it.
the only way we will move forward if girls are out loud with it.. and looking the part..and allowing us to live among them to change our ignorances and mess surrounding them.
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Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
At the end of the day, it's just absurd to not disclose something as important as gender with someone you're dealing with intimately. There's no way around it. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you don't need to be interacting on that level. It's deceitful, flat out.

And folk transphobia shouldn't cost a trans person their life. That's all.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 07:41:35 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh
just be drag..

I wouldnt dare change my sex and not be proud of everything I am.. despite those that may question it or look down at it.
the only way we will move forward if girls are out loud with it.. and looking the part..and allowing us to live among them to change our ignorances and mess surrounding them.
bruv... :uhh:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:42:04 PM
Sov is making good points though.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:42:04 PM
Sov is making good points though.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 07:42:41 PM
i am fucking LIVING for Oph and Glock in here
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Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.


Why would that happen? Why would the partner murder the trans person out of nowhere?

It happens alllllll the time. Folks insecurity will have them misbehave.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/boyfriend-charged-death-22-year-transgender-woman-found/story%3fid=65179146
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: yummy on April 08, 2020, 07:45:07 PM
I'm not seeing the correlation between a potential partner expecting someone to come to a relationship with full transparency and transphobia

They have the right to make a choice about being in a relationship with a trans person and you don't have the right to take that away because you're afraid they may not want to date you
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:46:10 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh
just be drag..

Dndjjx why r u always ruining the moment

Damn dummy
hijbnkm

stay mad APE
points were made
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.


Why would that happen? Why would the partner murder the trans person out of nowhere?

It happens alllllll the time. Folks insecurity will have them misbehave.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/boyfriend-charged-death-22-year-transgender-woman-found/story%3fid=65179146

I know it does, and I read the article hoping to find something pertaining to when, or if the victim disclosed the information to the guy but no mention of it. Its important and makes a difference.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:47:03 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 07:45:07 PM
I'm not seeing the correlation between a potential partner expecting someone to come to a relationship with full transparency and transphobia



!!!
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:47:11 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 07:45:07 PM
I'm not seeing the correlation between a potential partner expecting someone to come to a relationship with full transparency and transphobia

They have the right to make a choice about being in a relationship with a trans person and you don't have the right to take that away because you're afraid they may not want to date you
yeah

like..
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: heir. on April 08, 2020, 03:55:10 PM
I never tell ppl I'm part trans until I get to know them

u look part trash ta me bitch
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
But yh

The trans gurs are subjected to violence on the daily, and your safety isnt guaranteed around someone you're romantically or platonically involved with.

Cis people are raped, abused, murdered etc by spouses, friends and family so imagine how dangerous it is for the trans gurs. They're literally walking targets, especially the black ones.

I feel like they should be completely honest but it's a slippery slope
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: REALucid on April 08, 2020, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
At the end of the day, it's just absurd to not disclose something as important as gender with someone you're dealing with intimately. There's no way around it. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you don't need to be interacting on that level. It's deceitful, flat out.

And folk transphobia shouldn't cost a trans person their life. That's all.

It shouldn't. At the same time,  I don't agree that possible transphobia is an excuse to deceive.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:48:25 PM
Like if a bisexual man told a woman he wanted to date that he's been with men too, and she didn't use.....

I mean is that homophobic? And if it is, is she wrong? Like, thats her right.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 07:50:07 PM
but yea...tha gorls should stop this shit narrative.
i told tha current nigga im wit...guess wat he ask me?..."u fine idc, u smke?"

aint like niggas gaf an'ways...especially if u fine
like myself
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:50:10 PM
the girls wanna call folks transphobic but that gooping shit only leaves them DEAD somewhere...
i love everyone.. my growth over the years cant be denied..
but I dont agree with folks laying with ppl and not telling them the whole truth..

it's one of the many reasons why I stay away from women now.. because unless they are really worth me telling them all of who I am.. im not fucking laying with them..
the trans girls arent getting a pass..

if u were born a nigga.. or born a bitch.. let the person fucking  know..
it's simple..use it as a teaching moment.. and you might be surprised at how many folks would wanna fuck u ..

its the acting for me.. no matter how much work u do.. and the lies u speak.. u were no biologically born a woman.. and thats fine.. be proud IN THAT
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: yummy on April 08, 2020, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
But yh

The trans gurs are subjected to violence on the daily, and your safety isnt guaranteed around someone you're romantically or platonically involved with.

All the more reason why you probably shouldn't playing around with being truthful to potential partners, especially when you like to chase after tradey hood niggas

This is all common sense and I'm kinda confused as to why I even have to say it  :dead:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh
just be drag..

I wouldnt dare change my sex and not be proud of everything I am.. despite those that may question it or look down at it.
the only way we will move forward if girls are out loud with it.. and looking the part..and allowing us to live among them to change our ignorances and mess surrounding them.

So a lot of what you say here, King, is the majority's argument.

Trans and drag are distinctly different. Drag is an art form. Trans is how someone identifies outside of their given gender assignment.

And I can't argue for you what your journey as trans person would be because that wouldn't be MY journey. All I will say is that the stigma surrounding trans lives is similar to that of a black life. There are oppressive forces that still won't allow you to BE.

But salute to those trans folk who are unafraid to walk in their truth despite those forces that do everything they can to silence them.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
But yh

The trans gurs are subjected to violence on the daily, and your safety isnt guaranteed around someone you're romantically or platonically involved with.

All the more reason why you probably shouldn't playing around with being truthful to potential partners, especially when you like to chase after tradey hood niggas

This is all common sense and I'm kinda confused as to why I even have to say it  :dead:

Yeah but the type of trans gurs running around playing russian roulette with trade arent really looking for anything past a hookup and they don't represent the majority of their community. They're most likely sex workers.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.


Why would that happen? Why would the partner murder the trans person out of nowhere?

It happens alllllll the time. Folks insecurity will have them misbehave.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/boyfriend-charged-death-22-year-transgender-woman-found/story%3fid=65179146

I know it does, and I read the article hoping to find something pertaining to when, or if the victim disclosed the information to the guy but no mention of it. Its important and makes a difference.

So not finding that information in the article leaves room enough for her boyfriend to take her life?
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:54:19 PM
there is nothing wrong with being trans (if you do it right and dress the part).. so im so confused why girls are ashamed

spending thousands of dollars but walking around playing halloween everyday.. because subsequently that is what they are saying.. that it's an act that they have to stay in character for to pull off.. 
do u girls not see how the whole concept of "being born in the wrong body".. gets canceled out when u get surg and mones to look like women.. but also shy away from sharing your journey with intimate potentials? 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: REALucid on April 08, 2020, 07:55:08 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:54:19 PM
(if you do it right and dress the part)..

:plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.


Why would that happen? Why would the partner murder the trans person out of nowhere?

It happens alllllll the time. Folks insecurity will have them misbehave.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/boyfriend-charged-death-22-year-transgender-woman-found/story%3fid=65179146

I know it does, and I read the article hoping to find something pertaining to when, or if the victim disclosed the information to the guy but no mention of it. Its important and makes a difference.

So not finding that information in the article leaves room enough for her boyfriend to take her life?

If he felt deceived, tricked, and was unstable enough to do so because she....didnt....tell....him....from....jump..... I guess the answer is yes :uhh:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 07:56:37 PM
Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 07:55:08 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:54:19 PM
(if you do it right and dress the part)..

:plzstop: :plzstop:
,mnbvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvhhg
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:18 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh
just be drag..

I wouldnt dare change my sex and not be proud of everything I am.. despite those that may question it or look down at it.
the only way we will move forward if girls are out loud with it.. and looking the part..and allowing us to live among them to change our ignorances and mess surrounding them.

So a lot of what you say here, King, is the majority's argument.

Trans and drag are distinctly different. Drag is an art form. Trans is how someone identifies outside of their given gender assignment.

And I can't argue for you what your journey as trans person would be because that wouldn't be MY journey. All I will say is that the stigma surrounding trans lives is similar to that of a black life. There are oppressive forces that still won't allow you to BE.

But salute to those trans folk who are unafraid to walk in their truth despite those forces that do everything they can to silence them.
u know I love u fave.. but bby..they just arent the same
like not remotely..

trans is a choice.. ive always felt this way and that is where most pro trans girls differ from me..
like someone being FAT.. and getting lipo and that staple stomach mess to be thin..is far more relative to trans than that of a black person in america  :unsure:

I feel that it is very much so appropriate to not like the skin (trans, weight, plastic surg) you are in.. and change it..
and understand that you had a choice in the matter..

I really want the girls to embrace this
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BigDawg on April 08, 2020, 07:58:48 PM
Why would anyone want to be in a relationship under false pretenses? To me that is entrapment, for a trans to romantically get involved with a straight person and not disclose that they are transgender. That is completely stripping away someone's right to proactively choose who they want to be with.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:48:25 PM
Like if a bisexual man told a woman he wanted to date that he's been with men too, and she didn't use.....

I mean is that homophobic? And if it is, is she wrong? Like, thats her right.
!

That is 100% her right!
period

and thats why I, as a bi man..choose to be open and honest now days to women to give them that choice.. and open their minds up to understanding the full spectrum of sexuality..

Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:18 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh
just be drag..

I wouldnt dare change my sex and not be proud of everything I am.. despite those that may question it or look down at it.
the only way we will move forward if girls are out loud with it.. and looking the part..and allowing us to live among them to change our ignorances and mess surrounding them.

So a lot of what you say here, King, is the majority's argument.

Trans and drag are distinctly different. Drag is an art form. Trans is how someone identifies outside of their given gender assignment.

And I can't argue for you what your journey as trans person would be because that wouldn't be MY journey. All I will say is that the stigma surrounding trans lives is similar to that of a black life. There are oppressive forces that still won't allow you to BE.

But salute to those trans folk who are unafraid to walk in their truth despite those forces that do everything they can to silence them.
u know I love u fave.. but bby..they just arent the same
like not remotely..

trans is a choice.. ive always felt this way and that is where most pro trans girls differ from me..
like someone being FAT.. and getting lipo and that staple stomach mess to be thin..is far more relative to trans than that of a black person in america  :unsure:

I feel that it is very much so appropriate to not like the skin (trans, weight, plastic surg) you are in.. and change it..
and understand that you had a choice in the matter..

I really want the girls to embrace this


its really not a choice for alotta gorls
pls quit this bruv

im bout to get angry
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
u cant argue this.. and that is why u retort to this playground ass reply

anti-trans ass
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:01:06 PM
drais hates trans tbh
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
but is he wrong?  :blink:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:54:19 PM
there is nothing wrong with being trans (if you do it right and dress the part).. so im so confused why girls are ashamed

spending thousands of dollars but walking around playing halloween everyday.. because subsequently that is what they are saying.. that it's an act that they have to stay in character for to pull off..
do u girls not see how the whole concept of "being born in the wrong body".. gets canceled out when u get surg and mones to look like women.. but also shy away from sharing your journey with intimate potentials?

So....I'm seeing a lot of politics here surrounding the trans body and how it is presented.

You have to take into account a trans persons journey. Class, race, and economics influence a trans persons journey. How they are able to acquire the resources for their surgical journey IF they choose to have surgery performed? Because remember....not everyone who identifies as trans gets surgery performed.

Janet Mock speaks to this in her book "Redefining Realness". She talks about her privilege as a trans woman birthed into a liberal family in Hawaii and though bound by lack of monetary resources, the fact that she had familial support made the difference which is why she was able to have surgery performed at young age I.e. making trans woman like her "passeable".

You have a lot trans folk based on race and class displaced from their homes leaving them without resources. We know this. So it makes the journey feel insurmountable.

Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
but is he wrong?  :blink:

Yes
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: yummy on April 08, 2020, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
But yh

The trans gurs are subjected to violence on the daily, and your safety isnt guaranteed around someone you're romantically or platonically involved with.

All the more reason why you probably shouldn't playing around with being truthful to potential partners, especially when you like to chase after tradey hood niggas

This is all common sense and I'm kinda confused as to why I even have to say it  :dead:

Yeah but the type of trans gurs running around playing russian roulette with trade arent really looking for anything past a hookup and they don't represent the majority of their community. They're most likely sex workers.

I mean, that's usually the case for the gorls who are still a bit clockable, but the passable ones who can blend in with fish usually only go after straight cis men
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:02:50 PM
Quote from: You'nt know nann ho! on April 08, 2020, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:18 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh
just be drag..

I wouldnt dare change my sex and not be proud of everything I am.. despite those that may question it or look down at it.
the only way we will move forward if girls are out loud with it.. and looking the part..and allowing us to live among them to change our ignorances and mess surrounding them.

So a lot of what you say here, King, is the majority's argument.

Trans and drag are distinctly different. Drag is an art form. Trans is how someone identifies outside of their given gender assignment.

And I can't argue for you what your journey as trans person would be because that wouldn't be MY journey. All I will say is that the stigma surrounding trans lives is similar to that of a black life. There are oppressive forces that still won't allow you to BE.

But salute to those trans folk who are unafraid to walk in their truth despite those forces that do everything they can to silence them.
u know I love u fave.. but bby..they just arent the same
like not remotely..

trans is a choice.. ive always felt this way and that is where most pro trans girls differ from me..
like someone being FAT.. and getting lipo and that staple stomach mess to be thin..is far more relative to trans than that of a black person in america  :unsure:

I feel that it is very much so appropriate to not like the skin (trans, weight, plastic surg) you are in.. and change it..
and understand that you had a choice in the matter..

I really want the girls to embrace this

its really not a choice for alotta gorls
pls quit this bruv

im bout to get angry
hey suh!

u dont think moning it up and surging it DOWN..is a choice?

the girls could just be gay and a dyke  ..
but they up the ante a bit and actually changing their outer design
thats trans.. I know the girls feel it inside but .. I feel a lot of shit inside but I dont make the choice to act on it

theres a few girls I want to actually murder a bit.. but I chill out.. I dont MAKE THE CHOICE
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3z62EUsi4CITK/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:03:11 PM
a gay boy is not gonna understand tha mental gymnastics and hells a trans gorl or boy goes thru

idc how u FEEL on tha subject
im living IT

i transitioned to ease my mind
nd be tha gorl i always was in mind

why do we have this discussion evry week glocks?
do u hate me?
(https://uploadir.com/u/t5c40jhi)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
but is he wrong?  :blink:

Yes
How IS he wrong? its not a choice to go to the doctor and lay on that surge table?
and dont bring up the gay mess. I could sit in this room and have ZERO sex and still be a faggot. Has nothing to do with sex.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:04:26 PM
UPDATED WITH LOVE
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.


Why would that happen? Why would the partner murder the trans person out of nowhere?

It happens alllllll the time. Folks insecurity will have them misbehave.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/boyfriend-charged-death-22-year-transgender-woman-found/story%3fid=65179146

I know it does, and I read the article hoping to find something pertaining to when, or if the victim disclosed the information to the guy but no mention of it. Its important and makes a difference.

So not finding that information in the article leaves room enough for her boyfriend to take her life?

If he felt deceived, tricked, and was unstable enough to do so because she....didnt....tell....him....from....jump..... I guess the answer is yes :uhh:

So murder is justifiable? Got it!
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:05:08 PM
uppin thee anty!

gorl
ugh

we're enemies now, glocks
jus kno frm here...my gaze is on u, faggot!
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:05:26 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:04:26 PM
UPDATED WITH LOVE
ill kill u
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:05:37 PM
Quote from: You'nt know nann ho! on April 08, 2020, 08:03:11 PM
a gay boy is not gonna understand tha mental gymnastics and hells a trans gorl or boy goes thru

idc how u FEEL on tha subject
im living IT

i transitioned to ease my mind
nd be tha gorl i always was in mind

why do we have this discussion evry week glocks?
do u hate me?
(https://uploadir.com/u/t5c40jhi)
Im not believing u until u show me proof that u did the switch babes..
weve been on here for a decade together.. and theres been at least 20+ personas
I love u dearly but Drais backyard word isnt ENOUGH
(https://uploadir.com/u/t5c40jhi)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: You'nt know nann ho! on April 08, 2020, 08:05:26 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:04:26 PM
UPDATED WITH LOVE
ill kill u
KING
wtf
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BigDawg on April 08, 2020, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: You'nt know nann ho! on April 08, 2020, 08:03:11 PM
a gay boy is not gonna understand tha mental gymnastics and hells a trans gorl or boy goes thru

idc how u FEEL on tha subject
im living IT

i transitioned to ease my mind
nd be tha gorl i always was in mind

why do we have this discussion evry week glocks?
do u hate me?
(https://uploadir.com/u/t5c40jhi)
:plzstop:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: I. Hate. Monica. on April 08, 2020, 08:07:05 PM
Ddxxncbcx

yall always arguing about a damn trans mess. 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:07:37 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:05:37 PM
Quote from: You'nt know nann ho! on April 08, 2020, 08:03:11 PM
a gay boy is not gonna understand tha mental gymnastics and hells a trans gorl or boy goes thru

idc how u FEEL on tha subject
im living IT

i transitioned to ease my mind
nd be tha gorl i always was in mind

why do we have this discussion evry week glocks?
do u hate me?
(https://uploadir.com/u/t5c40jhi)
Im not believing u until u show me proof that u did the switch babes..
weve been on here for a decade together.. and theres been at least 20+ personas
I love u dearly but Drais backyard word isnt ENOUGH
(https://uploadir.com/u/t5c40jhi)


mmfmmff

fine, shit


sinny get in here n tells these gorls who i fckin amth'n!
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: yummy on April 08, 2020, 08:07:40 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/986f6412e095cefa99b89e34d8830319/tenor.gif?itemid=8593648)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 08:07:57 PM
sinny?
(https://uploadir.com/u/t5c40jhi)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:10:17 PM
talmbout sum uppin' anty....u aint seen shit yet nugguh
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
But yh

The trans gurs are subjected to violence on the daily, and your safety isnt guaranteed around someone you're romantically or platonically involved with.

All the more reason why you probably shouldn't playing around with being truthful to potential partners, especially when you like to chase after tradey hood niggas

This is all common sense and I'm kinda confused as to why I even have to say it  :dead:

Yeah but the type of trans gurs running around playing russian roulette with trade arent really looking for anything past a hookup and they don't represent the majority of their community. They're most likely sex workers.

I mean, that's usually the case for the gorls who are still a bit clockable, but the passable ones who can blend in with fish usually only go after straight cis men

This is somewhat true but alot of straight cis men chase after trans gurs (passable or not) and then get in their feelings after the tea is revealed.

I feel like the mental health of the individual plays a huge part though.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:12:16 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:18 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh
just be drag..

I wouldnt dare change my sex and not be proud of everything I am.. despite those that may question it or look down at it.
the only way we will move forward if girls are out loud with it.. and looking the part..and allowing us to live among them to change our ignorances and mess surrounding them.

So a lot of what you say here, King, is the majority's argument.

Trans and drag are distinctly different. Drag is an art form. Trans is how someone identifies outside of their given gender assignment.

And I can't argue for you what your journey as trans person would be because that wouldn't be MY journey. All I will say is that the stigma surrounding trans lives is similar to that of a black life. There are oppressive forces that still won't allow you to BE.

But salute to those trans folk who are unafraid to walk in their truth despite those forces that do everything they can to silence them.
u know I love u fave.. but bby..they just arent the same
like not remotely..

trans is a choice.. ive always felt this way and that is where most pro trans girls differ from me..
like someone being FAT.. and getting lipo and that staple stomach mess to be thin..is far more relative to trans than that of a black person in america  :unsure:

I feel that it is very much so appropriate to not like the skin (trans, weight, plastic surg) you are in.. and change it..
and understand that you had a choice in the matter..

I really want the girls to embrace this

I love you too, which is why I'm willing to have this dialogue. I choose my battles wisely.

But the function of racism is that if I can keep my heel on another  human life's neck based off of their skin color/hue then I am to attain power and that power leads to other oppressive forces like classism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, colorism etc.

Transphobia performed within given communities are a byproduct of racism. Because if there is a social order and someone within that social order disrupts it then I'm gonna find a way to oppress it. To lynch it. To murder it. So that perhaps those who fit within that social paradigm feel comfort and don't feel that the status quo is being threatened.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.


Why would that happen? Why would the partner murder the trans person out of nowhere?

It happens alllllll the time. Folks insecurity will have them misbehave.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/boyfriend-charged-death-22-year-transgender-woman-found/story%3fid=65179146

I know it does, and I read the article hoping to find something pertaining to when, or if the victim disclosed the information to the guy but no mention of it. Its important and makes a difference.

So not finding that information in the article leaves room enough for her boyfriend to take her life?

If he felt deceived, tricked, and was unstable enough to do so because she....didnt....tell....him....from....jump..... I guess the answer is yes :uhh:

So murder is justifiable? Got it!

Boy dont try to play me. Justifiable is a stretch. Understandable? Absolutely.

Empathy, remember?
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
but is he wrong?  :blink:

Yes
How IS he wrong? its not a choice to go to the doctor and lay on that surge table?
and dont bring up the gay mess. I could sit in this room and have ZERO sex and still be a faggot. Has nothing to do with sex.

Ggfff

If either of you were generally interested and genuinine about having a serious discussion I would explain but you're both two rona having monkeys so I'm just gonna attack you and be petty

:blessed:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:15:53 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
But yh

The trans gurs are subjected to violence on the daily, and your safety isnt guaranteed around someone you're romantically or platonically involved with.

All the more reason why you probably shouldn't playing around with being truthful to potential partners, especially when you like to chase after tradey hood niggas

This is all common sense and I'm kinda confused as to why I even have to say it  :dead:

Yeah but the type of trans gurs running around playing russian roulette with trade arent really looking for anything past a hookup and they don't represent the majority of their community. They're most likely sex workers.

I mean, that's usually the case for the gorls who are still a bit clockable, but the passable ones who can blend in with fish usually only go after straight cis men

This is somewhat true but alot of straight cis men chase after trans gurs (passable or not) and then get in their feelings after the tea is revealed.

I feel like the mental health of the individual plays a huge part though.

This is exactly it. The narrative of trans women seducing cis hetero men is void. It's often a mutual agreement between both parties and once, the car is out of the bag that "so and so" has been intimate with a trans woman, then it's the END!
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:16:13 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
but is he wrong?  :blink:

Yes
How IS he wrong? its not a choice to go to the doctor and lay on that surge table?
and dont bring up the gay mess. I could sit in this room and have ZERO sex and still be a faggot. Has nothing to do with sex.

Ggfff

If either of you were generally interested and genuinine about having a serious discussion I would explain but you're both two rona having monkeys so I'm just gonna attack you and be petty

:blessed:
ffffffffffffffxdg
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
but is he wrong?  :blink:

Yes
How IS he wrong? its not a choice to go to the doctor and lay on that surge table?
and dont bring up the gay mess. I could sit in this room and have ZERO sex and still be a faggot. Has nothing to do with sex.

Ggfff

If either of you were generally interested and genuinine about having a serious discussion I would explain but you're both two rona having monkeys so I'm just gonna attack you and be petty

:blessed:

yea sure.
how hard is it type 2 sentences.
(https://uploadir.com/u/3hdfk87h)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: REALucid on April 08, 2020, 08:16:51 PM
Pons is a real 'rans?  :shannonsmissing:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:17:00 PM
i hope they place a 5G tower by glocks house

nd his head ex-fckin-plodes!
suh that!
(https://uploadir.com/u/0lzvww8y)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:19:10 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.


Why would that happen? Why would the partner murder the trans person out of nowhere?

It happens alllllll the time. Folks insecurity will have them misbehave.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/boyfriend-charged-death-22-year-transgender-woman-found/story%3fid=65179146

I know it does, and I read the article hoping to find something pertaining to when, or if the victim disclosed the information to the guy but no mention of it. Its important and makes a difference.

So not finding that information in the article leaves room enough for her boyfriend to take her life?

If he felt deceived, tricked, and was unstable enough to do so because she....didnt....tell....him....from....jump..... I guess the answer is yes :uhh:

So murder is justifiable? Got it!

Boy dont try to play me. Justifiable is a stretch. Understandable? Absolutely.

Empathy, remember?

So you don't believe someone who performs a murder must seek professional counseling? Murder is deleterious and it's apparent in cases like these that those men mostly cisgendered, mostly hetero and mostly black are dealing with a form of mental illness?
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:19:19 PM
Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 08:16:51 PM
Pons is a real 'rans?  :shannonsmissing:
yeah
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: I. Hate. Monica. on April 08, 2020, 08:20:54 PM
Woah 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:21:16 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:15:53 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
But yh

The trans gurs are subjected to violence on the daily, and your safety isnt guaranteed around someone you're romantically or platonically involved with.

All the more reason why you probably shouldn't playing around with being truthful to potential partners, especially when you like to chase after tradey hood niggas

This is all common sense and I'm kinda confused as to why I even have to say it  :dead:

Yeah but the type of trans gurs running around playing russian roulette with trade arent really looking for anything past a hookup and they don't represent the majority of their community. They're most likely sex workers.

I mean, that's usually the case for the gorls who are still a bit clockable, but the passable ones who can blend in with fish usually only go after straight cis men

This is somewhat true but alot of straight cis men chase after trans gurs (passable or not) and then get in their feelings after the tea is revealed.

I feel like the mental health of the individual plays a huge part though.

This is exactly it. The narrative of trans women seducing cis hetero men is void. It's often a mutual agreement between both parties and once, the car is out of the bag that "so and so" has been intimate with a trans woman, then it's the END!

Yh alot of people are coming at this topic with bias and a limited view of trans because they're going off of the whole "tricking straight men" mess.

Alot of straight cis men actively pursue trans gurs the way they pursue flamboyant gay men and then switch into a different person after they bust their nut.  :dead:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
but is he wrong?  :blink:

Yes
How IS he wrong? its not a choice to go to the doctor and lay on that surge table?
and dont bring up the gay mess. I could sit in this room and have ZERO sex and still be a faggot. Has nothing to do with sex.

Ggfff

If either of you were generally interested and genuinine about having a serious discussion I would explain but you're both two rona having monkeys so I'm just gonna attack you and be petty

:blessed:

yea sure.
how hard is it type 2 sentences.
(https://uploadir.com/u/3hdfk87h)

I answered with "yes"

Is quarantine making you even dumber?

:disgusted:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 08:23:59 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:19:10 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 08, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.


Why would that happen? Why would the partner murder the trans person out of nowhere?

It happens alllllll the time. Folks insecurity will have them misbehave.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/boyfriend-charged-death-22-year-transgender-woman-found/story%3fid=65179146

I know it does, and I read the article hoping to find something pertaining to when, or if the victim disclosed the information to the guy but no mention of it. Its important and makes a difference.

So not finding that information in the article leaves room enough for her boyfriend to take her life?

If he felt deceived, tricked, and was unstable enough to do so because she....didnt....tell....him....from....jump..... I guess the answer is yes :uhh:

So murder is justifiable? Got it!

Boy dont try to play me. Justifiable is a stretch. Understandable? Absolutely.

Empathy, remember?

So you don't believe someone who performs a murder must seek professional counseling? Murder is deleterious and it's apparent in cases like these that those men mostly cisgendered, mostly hetero and mostly black are dealing with a form of mental illness?

Didnt you see where I said "unstable?"

I said its understandable. If a father murders his daughter's rapist, I understand it. That doesnt mean I think it was the "right" thing to do.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 08:24:48 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
but is he wrong?  :blink:

Yes
How IS he wrong? its not a choice to go to the doctor and lay on that surge table?
and dont bring up the gay mess. I could sit in this room and have ZERO sex and still be a faggot. Has nothing to do with sex.

Ggfff

If either of you were generally interested and genuinine about having a serious discussion I would explain but you're both two rona having monkeys so I'm just gonna attack you and be petty

:blessed:

yea sure.
how hard is it type 2 sentences.
(https://uploadir.com/u/3hdfk87h)

I answered with "yes"

Is quarantine making you even dumber?

:disgusted:
I told you to elaborate

:disgusted:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:24:56 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:21:16 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 08:15:53 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: animmai. on April 08, 2020, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
But yh

The trans gurs are subjected to violence on the daily, and your safety isnt guaranteed around someone you're romantically or platonically involved with.

All the more reason why you probably shouldn't playing around with being truthful to potential partners, especially when you like to chase after tradey hood niggas

This is all common sense and I'm kinda confused as to why I even have to say it  :dead:

Yeah but the type of trans gurs running around playing russian roulette with trade arent really looking for anything past a hookup and they don't represent the majority of their community. They're most likely sex workers.

I mean, that's usually the case for the gorls who are still a bit clockable, but the passable ones who can blend in with fish usually only go after straight cis men

This is somewhat true but alot of straight cis men chase after trans gurs (passable or not) and then get in their feelings after the tea is revealed.

I feel like the mental health of the individual plays a huge part though.

This is exactly it. The narrative of trans women seducing cis hetero men is void. It's often a mutual agreement between both parties and once, the car is out of the bag that "so and so" has been intimate with a trans woman, then it's the END!

Yh alot of people are coming at this topic with bias and a limited view of trans because they're going off of the whole "tricking straight men" mess.

Alot of straight cis men actively pursue trans gurs the way they pursue flamboyant gay men and then switch into a different person after they bust their nut.  :dead:

!!!

What it boils down to is lack of self-love. And there's nothing peculiar about that because we are all on a self-love journey combating forces such as racism, sexism, queer phobia, etc. We are all learning to love ourselves, but lack of love for oneself  doesn't mean you take life from another human being.

That is no one's right!
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:24:48 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
but is he wrong?  :blink:

Yes
How IS he wrong? its not a choice to go to the doctor and lay on that surge table?
and dont bring up the gay mess. I could sit in this room and have ZERO sex and still be a faggot. Has nothing to do with sex.

Ggfff

If either of you were generally interested and genuinine about having a serious discussion I would explain but you're both two rona having monkeys so I'm just gonna attack you and be petty

:blessed:

yea sure.
how hard is it type 2 sentences.
(https://uploadir.com/u/3hdfk87h)

I answered with "yes"

Is quarantine making you even dumber?

:disgusted:
I told you to elaborate

:disgusted:

You want me to elaborate just so you can be a dick and reply with something stupid

:disgusted:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 08:32:37 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:24:48 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
I mean we have freedom to do what we want..
and call it that!


trans is a choice when it comes to physically changing and remixing your MESS.
IM NOT MOVING ON IT

Boy shutup
but is he wrong?  :blink:

Yes
How IS he wrong? its not a choice to go to the doctor and lay on that surge table?
and dont bring up the gay mess. I could sit in this room and have ZERO sex and still be a faggot. Has nothing to do with sex.

Ggfff

If either of you were generally interested and genuinine about having a serious discussion I would explain but you're both two rona having monkeys so I'm just gonna attack you and be petty

:blessed:

yea sure.
how hard is it type 2 sentences.
(https://uploadir.com/u/3hdfk87h)

I answered with "yes"

Is quarantine making you even dumber?

:disgusted:
I told you to elaborate

:disgusted:

You want me to elaborate just so you can be a dick and reply with something stupid

:disgusted:
:disgusted: im having a real moment right now. TELL ME. How its not a choice to lay on a surgeons table
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:34:56 PM
No
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 08, 2020, 08:36:13 PM
So its a choice and thats the end. 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:37:05 PM
Idc

I just wanted to disagree with Glock
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:37:57 PM
ddddddddddg

damns glocks n covid 19ph were trampled in here by drais trailer
(https://uploadir.com/u/oy2jqsoo)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:38:13 PM
faggots.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: MelMel on April 08, 2020, 08:40:22 PM
(https://uploadir.com/u/oy2jqsoo)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: yummy on April 08, 2020, 08:41:25 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/X3Mb3gr/tWQSl07.gif)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:42:43 PM
Fjjjjff

And uh Pon kinda slays as a girl

You can't even tell

:guys:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: oph. on April 08, 2020, 08:47:44 PM
ok, u gorls gotta use some intellectual honesty.

TRUE:

- there is a stigma about transgender people in this country

- transgender can and many times do face physical danger due to their sexual identity

ALSO TRUE:

- there are transgender ppl that intentionally misled and trick people into sexual situation KNOWING that the individual does not or may not desire to be with a trans

this is deception

you have to be able to acknowledge that trans girls that are victims while ALSO acknowledging the trans girls that are not. are we really going to pretend that every trans girls is just an innocent flower being terrorized by the world? no. being trans has nothing to do with your CHARACTER. some people are good people and some people are bad people. being trans does not admonish someone from the possibility of being deceptive. no one is saying all trans people are deceptive. but some of them do. and again, not disclosing your sexual identity to a potential partner is a prime example of this.

and no one has yet to provide ONE good reason why a trans person SHOULDN'T disclose their gender identity to someone that they are looking to pursue. the idea that one can be comfortable enough to drop down and suck a niggas dick but not comfortable enough to tell him about your mess?

and is anyone going to acknowledge how unfair it is for a trans person's partner to be left in the dark about this? is anyone going to address how this unfairly takes the partner's choice away? honestly don't reply to me until you can address that.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: oph. on April 08, 2020, 08:50:44 PM
pons, honest question

if you were interested in a little sexual rendezvous or a real relationship with a guy would you disclose your gender identity to him ahead of time?
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Treasure on April 08, 2020, 08:50:49 PM
-
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on April 08, 2020, 08:51:56 PM
Y'all have the same damn trans shoot-out every week
:dead:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:51:57 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 08:50:44 PM
pons, honest question

if you were interested in a little sexual rendezvous or a real relationship with a guy would you disclose your gender identity to him ahead of time?

yeah
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:53:11 PM
Quote from: LoveMeNot #MAGA on April 08, 2020, 08:50:49 PM
-

Cgggvbvccccvcvvvv
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: oph. on April 08, 2020, 08:53:29 PM
Quote from: You'nt know nann ho! on April 08, 2020, 08:51:57 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 08:50:44 PM
pons, honest question

if you were interested in a little sexual rendezvous or a real relationship with a guy would you disclose your gender identity to him ahead of time?

yeah

:letsmessfag: :letsmessfag: :letsmessfag:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:55:35 PM
Quote from: 🐇 on April 08, 2020, 08:51:56 PM
Y'all have the same damn trans shoot-out every week
:dead:

Djdjdd

And dont even try to understand each other
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Edge gorl on April 08, 2020, 08:56:38 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:42:43 PM
Fjjjjff

And uh Pon kinda slays as a girl

You can't even tell

:guys:

u holdin' bac tho drai'


i look bettr than beyonce nd RIH!
(https://uploadir.com/u/836g4n4x)
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:57:11 PM
Quote from: You'nt know nann ho! on April 08, 2020, 08:56:38 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:42:43 PM
Fjjjjff

And uh Pon kinda slays as a girl

You can't even tell

:guys:

u holdin' bac tho drai'


i look bettr than beyonce nd RIH!
(https://uploadir.com/u/836g4n4x)

Better than Ri definitely
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on April 08, 2020, 08:57:59 PM
Quote from: LOONA. on April 08, 2020, 08:55:35 PM
Quote from: 🐇 on April 08, 2020, 08:51:56 PM
Y'all have the same damn trans shoot-out every week
:dead:

Djdjdd

And dont even try to understand each other
!!!!
Just around and around they go :dead:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Freemala Harris on April 08, 2020, 09:02:52 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BonLrSwHOtG/
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Sinpool on April 08, 2020, 09:05:21 PM
Y'all ok in here
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GRAND ETERNAL SUPREME on April 09, 2020, 12:19:29 AM
This boy is dumb though
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Boomz on April 09, 2020, 09:25:04 AM
Whew!

So glad I gave up arguing to y'all about anything Trans.

:blessed:
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: HUGO on April 09, 2020, 09:28:29 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on April 08, 2020, 03:00:43 PM
Nah full disclosure is a requirement
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: b7 on April 09, 2020, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that
DSHMBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBF

wait.... you HAVE a point. I forgot they MARCH n mess shouting how proud they are.
Why disclose this information.  :plzstop:
Not all Trans women think the same way tho. A lot of them move differently as any of us
would 
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: b7 on April 09, 2020, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 06:59:16 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that

There is a difference between having pride and also being wise with who you choose to disclose that with because trans women are constantly in danger, being harmed, raped and killed because no one will give a damn. They're unfortunately disposable.

If someone were to share that they were trans here on this board, the amount of transphobia, harmful rhetoric and trolling that would take place....  :plzstop: There's real danger in telling folk you're trans.
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: GRAND ETERNAL SUPREME on April 09, 2020, 10:13:34 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on April 09, 2020, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 06:59:16 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that

There is a difference between having pride and also being wise with who you choose to disclose that with because trans women are constantly in danger, being harmed, raped and killed because no one will give a damn. They're unfortunately disposable.

If someone were to share that they were trans here on this board, the amount of transphobia, harmful rhetoric and trolling that would take place....  :plzstop: There's real danger in telling folk you're trans.
eek yes

I went clerbing with this girl I made friends with years ago who was clockable

Went to a diner afterwards and some hicks were dead ass trying to threaten her. It's a mess
Title: Re: This is why (trans mess)
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on April 09, 2020, 10:21:48 AM
Quote from: heir. on April 09, 2020, 09:51:30 AM
I don't think trannies have to announce that  they're trannies everywhere they go

nnnnnn

"can I have a large #3 with no pickles? Oh and I'm a tranny lol!"
"Hey everyone on the train look at me!! Tranny power woo!!!"

nnnnjjj

but obviously if they're thinking of getting involved romantically with someone it should be disclosed.
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