So Dallas just helped with vocals? Interesting. Dallas always made it seem like he did more. Nice interview so far
This song seem like more stress than it was worth... It was in the contract that neither one could have more adlibs than the other lol
Quote from: Eh... on October 05, 2020, 08:27:28 PM
This song seem like more stress than it was worth... It was in the contract that neither one could have more adlibs than the other lol
Right lmao it was definitely worth it though
Quote from: Eh... on October 05, 2020, 08:27:28 PM
This song seem like more stress than it was worth...
Not when it's both of their biggest hit and the only reason either of them have a grammy :dead:
And that kinda stuff isn't in uncommon in Hollywood. Actresses do that kinda mess all the time. EQUAL screen time!
Quote from: BruhMan 5th floor on October 05, 2020, 08:17:18 PM
So Dallas just helped with vocals? Interesting. Dallas always made it seem like he did more. Nice interview so far
The way he didn't offer any clarification when VFag said "so rodney co-produced it"
Dallas: mmhm, yep :ohwow:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 05, 2020, 08:58:03 PM
And that kinda stuff isn't in uncommon in Hollywood. Actresses do that kinda mess all the time. EQUAL screen time!
!!!
It also helps to keep it a TRUE duet.
Vs. a featured mess.
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 05, 2020, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: BruhMan 5th floor on October 05, 2020, 08:17:18 PM
So Dallas just helped with vocals? Interesting. Dallas always made it seem like he did more. Nice interview so far
The way he didn't offer any clarification when VFag said "so rodney co-produced it"
Dallas: mmhm, yep :ohwow:
Dallas seems arrogant and annoying.
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 05, 2020, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: BruhMan 5th floor on October 05, 2020, 08:17:18 PM
So Dallas just helped with vocals? Interesting. Dallas always made it seem like he did more. Nice interview so far
The way he didn't offer any clarification when VFag said "so rodney co-produced it"
Dallas: mmhm, yep :ohwow:
:plzstop: :plzstop:
:shannonsmissing:
Quote from: Eh... on October 05, 2020, 08:27:28 PM
This song seem like more stress than it was worth... It was in the contract that neither one could have more adlibs than the other lol
I think the same thing happened with Whit & Riah
it was common practice
Rodney looks miserable.
Quote from: Rxxf on October 05, 2020, 09:26:25 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 05, 2020, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: BruhMan 5th floor on October 05, 2020, 08:17:18 PM
So Dallas just helped with vocals? Interesting. Dallas always made it seem like he did more. Nice interview so far
The way he didn't offer any clarification when VFag said "so rodney co-produced it"
Dallas: mmhm, yep :ohwow:
Dallas seems arrogant and annoying.
!!!!
Do y'all ever feel like Brandy should've taken the TBIM album title? I low-key love NSN and it's kinda her best album title
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 05, 2020, 08:58:03 PM
And that kinda stuff isn't in uncommon in Hollywood. Actresses do that kinda mess all the time. EQUAL screen time!
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 10:43:53 AM
Do y'all ever feel like Brandy should've taken the TBIM album title? I low-key love NSN and it's kinda her best album title
its a dumb album title tbh unless all or most of the songs are about a guy being hers
Brandy loved Whitney Houston and Monica was the goddaughter of Whitney ? Rodney still seems a Lil bitter and shady to me :uhh: :dead:
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 12:14:01 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 10:43:53 AM
Do y'all ever feel like Brandy should've taken the TBIM album title? I low-key love NSN and it's kinda her best album title
its a dumb album title tbh unless all or most of the songs are about a guy being hers
Never Say Never is perfect.
It gives off LEGEND vibes.
NSN can have so many meanings.
Her career alone, her "proving" herself with her 2nd project with some denying she could never do it again, etc.
Quote from: KingDavid on October 06, 2020, 01:17:11 PM
Brandy loved Whitney Houston and Monica was the goddaughter of Whitney ? Rodney still seems a Lil bitter and shady to me :uhh: :dead:
I honestly don't like him either.
I still think he's bitter that his cousin Robert Smith was involved with Brandy.
Quote from: Rxxf on October 06, 2020, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: KingDavid on October 06, 2020, 01:17:11 PM
Brandy loved Whitney Houston and Monica was the goddaughter of Whitney ? Rodney still seems a Lil bitter and shady to me :uhh: :dead:
I honestly don't like him either.
I still think he's bitter that his cousin Robert Smith was involved with Brandy.
U think so 🤔 I just see why he would say this statement knowing it's not true. Also he knows damn well they recorded this song together after the agreement was made to put her on the track there is video proof of this :dead: like wtf do these people forget we have seen this stuff :kii: I think he is still salty and bitter he didn't get all of Human and he ain't never gon forget that shit and he's holding a damn grudge . He needs to get over it and get in that damn studio and give her another NSN or FM let your work speak for itself .
Brandy and Rodney are dead, let that be. I don't need or want her with him again. I also don't think he seems bitter tho
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
Exactly his whole vibe changed when she was brought up solo. He's hurt.
Even when he mentioned Monica naming her album that, and VLFag said "what's wrong with that, is it Brandys song or something" he could have mentioned how it WAS Brandys song initially.... speak to the origins, but he gave "it's not that, it's just, agreed to be equal!"
Still don't mean he's bitter. Me not gushing over someone because our relationship isn't what it once was doesn't mean there is ill will. Bitter means feeling of discontent, rage, or SUMN. He didn't give any of that here. He answered what was asked and that's it. There may still be a disconnect and that's fine, it happens. I didn't get BITTER tho
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 10:43:53 AM
Do y'all ever feel like Brandy should've taken the TBIM album title? I low-key love NSN and it's kinda her best album title
No, TBIM would've been a lazy title. No one should have used it.
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
he wouldn't even say Bran won the Versuz?
He's def bitter and wanted to be with Brandy. Brandy briefly followed him on IG after the Verzuz but then unfollowed probably after he was very short with his responses.
Rodney is a fat, bitter nigger.
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
Honestly, Brandy is more to blame then he is probably. I heard sumn about her being annoyed that he was giving their sound to others. Girl, my sound as a producer isn't OUR sound. I gave u MY sound :dead:
Imagine someone feeling bitter because R. Kelly, Neptunes, Timbaland, or ANY producer with a really distinct sound was producing for others and u felt entitled to their sound :plzstop:
And historically Brandy is the one that has a history of falling out with people, so it's probably more on her than him. Didn't she feel a way about Camper and unfollow him a time or two over this album process? Brandy is a low-key weirdo but y'all fans so y'all make excuses for her
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
he wouldn't even say Bran won the Versuz?
well that I can understand, he is cool with Mon too
but the "if Brandy won, I won, WE won lolz" is what gets me
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 01:57:40 PM
Still don't mean he's bitter. Me not gushing over someone because our relationship isn't what it once was doesn't mean there is ill will. Bitter means feeling of discontent, rage, or SUMN. He didn't give any of that here. He answered what was asked and that's it. There may still be a disconnect and that's fine, it happens. I didn't get BITTER tho
To me, bitter is actually nuanced and not something you can definitively point out. It's far from rage. Bitter comes in slight, in downplay, in avoidance.
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:04:25 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
he wouldn't even say Bran won the Versuz?
well that I can understand, he is cool with Mon too
but the "if Brandy won, I won, WE won lolz" is what gets me
I made you :fuming:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
Honestly, Brandy is more to blame then he is probably. I heard sumn about her being annoyed that he was giving their sound to others. Girl, my sound as a producer isn't OUR sound. I gave u MY sound :dead:
Imagine someone feeling bitter because R. Kelly, Neptunes, Timbaland, or ANY producer with a really distinct sound was producing for others and u felt entitled to their sound :plzstop:
And historically Brandy is the one that has a history of falling out with people, so it's probably more on her than him. Didn't she feel a way about Camper and unfollow him a time or two over this album process? Brandy is a low-key weirdo but y'all fans so y'all make excuses for her
It was more than just his beats. Brandy's vocals and backgrounds become a part of a song's music and that is what she was referring to.
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 01:57:40 PM
Still don't mean he's bitter. Me not gushing over someone because our relationship isn't what it once was doesn't mean there is ill will. Bitter means feeling of discontent, rage, or SUMN. He didn't give any of that here. He answered what was asked and that's it. There may still be a disconnect and that's fine, it happens. I didn't get BITTER tho
To me, bitter is actually nuanced and not something you can definitively point out. It's far from rage. Bitter comes in slight, in downplay, in avoidance.
It's a host of things. I just don't think he gave bitter. I just don't think they're close anymore and he kept the convo on her concise and to the point. I think y'all want sumn from him that he isn't giving so that means he's bitter then. I'm just thinking about me. If i had worked with someone previously and we were no longer cool like that but our work was timeless, I would speak on THE WORK. I'm not giving them anything. I don't fuck with them like that, so they not getting roses from me :dead:
I can speak proudly on the work and that's it. It doesn't mean bitter....... but that's just my opinion
He seems upset. Even if they had a falling out, he should be praising Brandy the artist as a musician. He's not.
Way more than them just not being cool anymore. He's bothered.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
Honestly, Brandy is more to blame then he is probably. I heard sumn about her being annoyed that he was giving their sound to others. Girl, my sound as a producer isn't OUR sound. I gave u MY sound :dead:
Imagine someone feeling bitter because R. Kelly, Neptunes, Timbaland, or ANY producer with a really distinct sound was producing for others and u felt entitled to their sound :plzstop:
And historically Brandy is the one that has a history of falling out with people, so it's probably more on her than him. Didn't she feel a way about Camper and unfollow him a time or two over this album process? Brandy is a low-key weirdo but y'all fans so y'all make excuses for her
that "giving away my sound" thing is so old dude
they are not beefing about that
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:12:42 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
Honestly, Brandy is more to blame then he is probably. I heard sumn about her being annoyed that he was giving their sound to others. Girl, my sound as a producer isn't OUR sound. I gave u MY sound :dead:
Imagine someone feeling bitter because R. Kelly, Neptunes, Timbaland, or ANY producer with a really distinct sound was producing for others and u felt entitled to their sound :plzstop:
And historically Brandy is the one that has a history of falling out with people, so it's probably more on her than him. Didn't she feel a way about Camper and unfollow him a time or two over this album process? Brandy is a low-key weirdo but y'all fans so y'all make excuses for her
that "giving away my sound" thing is so old dude
they are not beefing about that
They've worked together since he gave away her sound.
I will say though, he was pretty complimentary of Bran in interviews earlier this year when discussing Its Not Worth It and Angel In Disguise
I think he just wants to be the only one to produce her music, and she wants to have variety
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:16:19 PM
I will say though, he was pretty complimentary of Bran in interviews earlier this year when discussing Its Not Worth It and Angel In Disguise
I think he just wants to be the only one to produce her music, and she wants to have variety
!!
His attitude changed after B7. He's a selfish fat fuck.
Quote from: TinaSnow on October 06, 2020, 02:07:56 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
Honestly, Brandy is more to blame then he is probably. I heard sumn about her being annoyed that he was giving their sound to others. Girl, my sound as a producer isn't OUR sound. I gave u MY sound :dead:
Imagine someone feeling bitter because R. Kelly, Neptunes, Timbaland, or ANY producer with a really distinct sound was producing for others and u felt entitled to their sound :plzstop:
And historically Brandy is the one that has a history of falling out with people, so it's probably more on her than him. Didn't she feel a way about Camper and unfollow him a time or two over this album process? Brandy is a low-key weirdo but y'all fans so y'all make excuses for her
It was more than just his beats. Brandy's vocals and backgrounds become a part of a song's music and that is what she was referring to.
U don't know that BRANDY was responsible for that tho. They were both young and they were both developing a sound. Brandy didn't even know who she was musicly at that point. He helped to mold the sound that we consider "The Brandy sound" and I'm sure he was VERY instrumental in it too, so he had as much ownership to "their" sound as she did.........which is why he could take it and do it so well without her. If it was a sound that required Brandy, then it wouldn't have been able to be recreated without her
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:12:42 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
Honestly, Brandy is more to blame then he is probably. I heard sumn about her being annoyed that he was giving their sound to others. Girl, my sound as a producer isn't OUR sound. I gave u MY sound :dead:
Imagine someone feeling bitter because R. Kelly, Neptunes, Timbaland, or ANY producer with a really distinct sound was producing for others and u felt entitled to their sound :plzstop:
And historically Brandy is the one that has a history of falling out with people, so it's probably more on her than him. Didn't she feel a way about Camper and unfollow him a time or two over this album process? Brandy is a low-key weirdo but y'all fans so y'all make excuses for her
that "giving away my sound" thing is so old dude
they are not beefing about that
Ray, u don't know what they're beefing about :dead:
The fact that they were beefing about it AT ALL is stupid. Brandy is crazy
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:12:42 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
Honestly, Brandy is more to blame then he is probably. I heard sumn about her being annoyed that he was giving their sound to others. Girl, my sound as a producer isn't OUR sound. I gave u MY sound :dead:
Imagine someone feeling bitter because R. Kelly, Neptunes, Timbaland, or ANY producer with a really distinct sound was producing for others and u felt entitled to their sound :plzstop:
And historically Brandy is the one that has a history of falling out with people, so it's probably more on her than him. Didn't she feel a way about Camper and unfollow him a time or two over this album process? Brandy is a low-key weirdo but y'all fans so y'all make excuses for her
that "giving away my sound" thing is so old dude
they are not beefing about that
Ray, u don't know what they're beefing about :dead:
The fact that they were beefing about it AT ALL is stupid. Brandy is crazy
the shit was like before Afrodisiac and they have worked together quite a lot since then
so... yea
Bran can be crazy but Rodney is controlling. She didnt want him using their sound
he didn't want other producers on her albums
:letsmessfag:
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:12:42 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: BorderL0NZ. on October 06, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
There def a little something in his vibe. He was very short about her. Especially after just talking about Aaliyah in detail or this and that artist.... even if not asked directly, that was his time to gush or at least.... expound. I mean this was like your muse. He was perfectly content with discussing the 2 of them as one.
!!!
here's the latest clip, cant believe they have spent 3 videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6-rc5l3P8
"I produced 80% of the records Brandy played!"
I think he really has control/jealousy issues with Bran. He's never really happy for her when shes working with other producers
Honestly, Brandy is more to blame then he is probably. I heard sumn about her being annoyed that he was giving their sound to others. Girl, my sound as a producer isn't OUR sound. I gave u MY sound :dead:
Imagine someone feeling bitter because R. Kelly, Neptunes, Timbaland, or ANY producer with a really distinct sound was producing for others and u felt entitled to their sound :plzstop:
And historically Brandy is the one that has a history of falling out with people, so it's probably more on her than him. Didn't she feel a way about Camper and unfollow him a time or two over this album process? Brandy is a low-key weirdo but y'all fans so y'all make excuses for her
that "giving away my sound" thing is so old dude
they are not beefing about that
Ray, u don't know what they're beefing about :dead:
The fact that they were beefing about it AT ALL is stupid. Brandy is crazy
the shit was like before Afrodisiac and they have worked together quite a lot since then
so... yea
Bran can be crazy but Rodney is controlling. She didnt want him using their sound
he didn't want other producers on her albums
:letsmessfag:
Right! :dead:
Brandy is crazy!No fucking shit. :uhh:
either they're both complicit in the mess or neither are
and Bran isnt the only one who has had fallouts with ppl
LaShawn was not part of Darkchild's camp for years before his death
hmmmm
Rodney has moved on and had MUCH success without Brandy, Brandy aint had much success outside of Rodney. If he is controlling maybe she should listen to the nigga cause he clearly has the Damn answer :dead:
Darkchild seems a little salty in this interview. He didn't "make" Brandy and she should let the idea of them working together go for good.
Darkchild seems like he's still professionally possessive over her while Lashawn and Timbo were/are the opposite.
I don't even like Rodney like that but y'all give Brandy ENTIRELY too much grace and she has actually SHOWN herself to be a bit of a weirdo, so let's keep it 100 and stop trying to pass the Damn buck all the time. Only one of these mufuckas are talking about being fckn SCHZIO and I don't think it was This fat ass nigga :omf:
Sittin Up In My Room her second biggest song: with Babyface
her debut album 4x Platinum with 4 big classic hits with Keith Crouch
Have You Ever- Diane Warren & David Foster #1 single
Love Again Grammy nominated- DJ Camper
Put It Down R&B #1 hit- Sean Garrett & Bangladesh
Full Moon the song: Mike City
are we serious Vonc? no success without him? :kii:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:29:08 PM
I don't even like Rodney like that but y'all give Brandy ENTIRELY too much grace and she has actually SHOWN herself to be a bit of a weirdo, so let's keep it 100 and stop trying to pass the Damn buck all the time. Only one of these mufuckas are talking about being fckn SCHZIO and I don't think it was This fat ass nigga :omf:
You should be banned.
NOTHING Brandy has done has measured up to the success she had with Rodney. Are u really trying to dispute that :dead:
Even that tired ass full moon y'all love is RODNEY!
Brandy's last REAL hit was RH(D) and who was that?
Brandy hasn't really been successful musically like that post Rodney (at least in a mainstream way) and that can't be debated :omf:
And i didn't say she had NO success without Rodney. I said much and that's true
what song did Rodney produce that's bigger than TBIM?
he hasnt been the #1 hitmaker without her either tbh
I cant tell you the last artist screaming "DARKCHILD produced!" when naming who they worked with
and more than likely it wasn't the single on their album, so yea
well the stuff that was listed is MUCH success in most ppls eyes
she even overlooked him and chose hit singles by other producers on albums he did the bulk of
they BOTH had their biggest success together
FACT
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:27:06 PM
Rodney has moved on and had MUCH success without Brandy, Brandy aint had much success outside of Rodney. If he is controlling maybe she should listen to the nigga cause he clearly has the Damn answer :dead:
This!
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:37:38 PM
And i didn't say she had NO success without Rodney. I said much and that's true
She's had some commercial success but she seemed to have more critical success without him than she did while with.
Then where was all that chemistry on Human?
it was there on Right Here, Fall, Shattered Heart, Piano Man...
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:39:31 PM
what song did Rodney produce that's bigger than TBIM?
he hasnt been the #1 hitmaker without her either tbh
I cant tell you the last artist screaming "DARKCHILD produced!" when naming who they worked with
and more than likely it wasn't the single on their album, so yea
:plzstop:
Rodney has had MUCH success outside of Brandy. Firstly, his first grammy came from say my name..... which was a number one record. His record of the yr grammy came from sam smith for Stay With Me. He was just nominated for record and song of the yr with HER. Wtf are u talking about :plzstop:
Brandy hasn't seen the success she had with Rodney OUTSIDE of Rodney. The same CANNOT be said for Rodney. Please don't try to debate this. This is when y'all just be sounding goofy :omf:
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:31:23 PM
Sittin Up In My Room her second biggest song: with Babyface
her debut album 4x Platinum with 4 big classic hits with Keith Crouch
Have You Ever- Diane Warren & David Foster #1 single
Love Again Grammy nominated- DJ Camper
Put It Down R&B #1 hit- Sean Garrett & Bangladesh
Full Moon the song: Mike City
are we serious Vonc? no success without him? :kii:
No this nigga didn't say 80% of the Brandy songs on Verzuz he produced. She only played FIVE songs produced by him :dead:
Brandy is not defined by Rodney and Rodney is not defined by Brandy.
And its arguable that the record of the yr winning song is his biggest achievement ACTUALLY
Quote from: jtwoeleven on October 06, 2020, 02:43:57 PM
Then where was all that chemistry on Human?
Exactly why she shouldn't be with him anymore. Their chemistry is dead. Please let's stop trying to cling to it :omf:
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:36:28 PM
NOTHING Brandy has done has measured up to the success she had with Rodney. Are u really trying to dispute that :dead:
Even that tired ass full moon y'all love is RODNEY!
Brandy's last REAL hit was RH(D) and who was that?
Brandy hasn't really been successful musically like that post Rodney (at least in a mainstream way) and that can't be debated :omf:
What has Rodney done in 15 years? :dead: :dead:
Brandy was young, Rodney was young, they created a sound together. They bumped heads when they should have worked together, almost like a team/group. They created that sound together, so I see how they both felt an ownership to it. Rodney had artist imitating Brandy and that is something else.
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
This is true and "Borderline" is an example. The video garnered over 100K likes on YouTube in August and has people on Twitter and YouTube talking about how addictive it is and the emotions it evokes. "Borderline" is a staple song for her now and will garner her many of awards because of its acclaim. b7 and "Borderline" are that girl.
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Destiny Child weren't a FORCE until Say My name which is arguably their most known record
HER isn't some DOMINATING force in music like that, so her music is EXCLUSIVELY why she's been recognized. Hard Place being nominated for Record and Song of the yr isn't because she's just some beyonce type.
Even the Michael Jackson and Toni Hits tbh. They were both coming off of long breaks that were VERY scandalous. They needed heat and went to him. His music wasn't the reason? :omf:
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:36:28 PM
NOTHING Brandy has done has measured up to the success she had with Rodney. Are u really trying to dispute that :dead:
Even that tired ass full moon y'all love is RODNEY!
Brandy's last REAL hit was RH(D) and who was that?
Brandy hasn't really been successful musically like that post Rodney (at least in a mainstream way) and that can't be debated :omf:
What has Rodney done in 15 years? :dead: :dead:
I didn't read past this. Please go educate yourself :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:39:31 PM
what song did Rodney produce that's bigger than TBIM?
he hasnt been the #1 hitmaker without her either tbh
I cant tell you the last artist screaming "DARKCHILD produced!" when naming who they worked with
and more than likely it wasn't the single on their album, so yea
:plzstop:
Rodney has had MUCH success outside of Brandy. Firstly, his first grammy came from say my name..... which was a number one record. His record of the yr grammy came from sam smith for Stay With Me. He was just nominated for record and song of the yr with HER. Wtf are u talking about :plzstop:
Brandy hasn't seen the success she had with Rodney OUTSIDE of Rodney. The same CANNOT be said for Rodney. Please don't try to debate this. This is when y'all just be sounding goofy :omf:
sounds like his biggest record is still TBIM with Brandy
he has no other 13 weeks at #1 smash
and Bran was just nominated for Best R&B vocal performance with Camper and Daniel Caesar
they both have MUCH success outside of each other
and Hard Place is not even a big chart hit, its pretty much just critical acclaim
Quote from: James on October 06, 2020, 03:16:40 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
"Borderline" is an example. The video garnered over 100K likes on YouTube in August and has people on Twitter and YouTube talking about how addictive it is and the emotions it evokes. "Borderline" is a staple song for her now and will garner her many of awards because of its acclaim. b7 and "Borderline" are that girl.
I agree. I don't think Rodney and Brandy should EVER be together again. I've said that. I like her music better with timbaland. Y'ALL like full trash, not me. I'm just stating the fact that brandy hasn't seen mainstream success outside of Rodney. No need to feel a way about it, it's just the truth. I prefer the artist brandy that does the Afrodisiac, B7 music tho
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:39:31 PM
what song did Rodney produce that's bigger than TBIM?
he hasnt been the #1 hitmaker without her either tbh
I cant tell you the last artist screaming "DARKCHILD produced!" when naming who they worked with
and more than likely it wasn't the single on their album, so yea
:plzstop:
Rodney has had MUCH success outside of Brandy. Firstly, his first grammy came from say my name..... which was a number one record. His record of the yr grammy came from sam smith for Stay With Me. He was just nominated for record and song of the yr with HER. Wtf are u talking about :plzstop:
Brandy hasn't seen the success she had with Rodney OUTSIDE of Rodney. The same CANNOT be said for Rodney. Please don't try to debate this. This is when y'all just be sounding goofy :omf:
sounds like his biggest record is still TBIM with Brandy
he has no other 13 weeks at #1 smash
and Bran was just nominated for Best R&B vocal performance with Camper and Daniel Caesar
they both have MUCH success outside of each other
and Hard Place is not even a big chart hit, its pretty much just critical acclaim
U think because the song hit #1 on billboard that makes it the biggest record he's done? :dead:
I'd definitely say the song winning song or record of the yr at the grammys is a MUCH bigger achievement, ESPECIALLY as the damn producer of the record. Are u serious? :kii:
There are MULTIPLE number 1s throughout the yr but there's only one recipient of record/song of the yr. U have the biggest musical platform awarding u and telling u ur song was the best song of the yr. That's definitely the bigger achievement
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Rodney didnt produce the original version of that
he did a remix that got included in the credits on a technicality
""Stay with Me" was written by Smith, James Napier, William Phillips, with additional credits to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.
And that's exactly why hard place being nominated is a big deal btw. It's not some #1 across all the charts shit. It's nominated BECAUSE it was just that dope of a song, so your comment about him not being a big producer still was false. He still is VERY much so an acclaimed producer
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Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 02:39:31 PM
what song did Rodney produce that's bigger than TBIM?
he hasnt been the #1 hitmaker without her either tbh
I cant tell you the last artist screaming "DARKCHILD produced!" when naming who they worked with
and more than likely it wasn't the single on their album, so yea
:plzstop:
Rodney has had MUCH success outside of Brandy. Firstly, his first grammy came from say my name..... which was a number one record. His record of the yr grammy came from sam smith for Stay With Me. He was just nominated for record and song of the yr with HER. Wtf are u talking about :plzstop:
Brandy hasn't seen the success she had with Rodney OUTSIDE of Rodney. The same CANNOT be said for Rodney. Please don't try to debate this. This is when y'all just be sounding goofy :omf:
sounds like his biggest record is still TBIM with Brandy
he has no other 13 weeks at #1 smash
and Bran was just nominated for Best R&B vocal performance with Camper and Daniel Caesar
they both have MUCH success outside of each other
and Hard Place is not even a big chart hit, its pretty much just critical acclaim
U think because the song hit #1 on billboard that makes it the biggest record he's done? :dead:
I'd definitely say the song winning song or record of the yr at the grammys is a MUCH bigger achievement, ESPECIALLY as the damn producer of the record. Are u serious? :kii:
There are MULTIPLE number 1s throughout the yr but there's only one recipient of record/song of the yr. U have the biggest musical platform awarding u and telling u ur song was the best song of the yr. That's definitely the bigger achievement
there may be multiple #1s but as I said THIRTEEN WEEKS at #1
there's only a handful of songs that were THAT massive. a song gets record of the year once every year
no song stays that long a #1 every year
the QUALITY of a song doesnt dictate its success
saying something is great doesnt mean its successful
Hard Place is a dope song that was not a commercial mainstream success like you're trying to state
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Rodney didnt produce the original version of that
he did a remix that got included in the credits on a technicality
""Stay with Me" was written by Smith, James Napier, William Phillips, with additional credits to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.
I didn't say he wrote it. He produced the grammy winning version :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 03:28:03 PM
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Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain%u2019t cooking shit and hasn%u2019t been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney%u2019s hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Rodney didnt produce the original version of that
he did a remix that got included in the credits on a technicality
""Stay with Me" was written by Smith, James Napier, William Phillips, with additional credits to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.
I didn't say he wrote it. He produced the grammy winning version :dead:
thats fine but lets not phrase it like Rodney made Sam popular or the song a hit
his original was already big
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 03:32:37 PM
the QUALITY of a song doesnt dictate its success
saying something is great doesnt mean its successful
Hard Place is a dope song that was not a commercial mainstream success like you're trying to state
Where did i say hard place was a commercial success? I literally said the opposite. :dead:
Ur the one pushing success is based on billboard narrative, not me :plzstop:
My point is he is still a sought after producer that is very successful and ur song bein nominated for record and song of the yr is VERY successful. Wtf are u talking about :omf:
I haven't read any of these posts but Ray is wrong cuz he usually is
:omf:
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Rodney didnt produce the original version of that
he did a remix that got included in the credits on a technicality
""Stay with Me" was written by Smith, James Napier, William Phillips, with additional credits to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.
I didn't say he wrote it. He produced the grammy winning version :dead:
thats fine but lets no phrase it like Rodney made Sam popular or the song a hit
his original was already big
Ummm it's literally the song that catapulted his career. Ray go YouTube stay with me Darkchild version and tell me what u hear
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:37:03 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 06, 2020, 03:32:37 PM
the QUALITY of a song doesnt dictate its success
saying something is great doesnt mean its successful
Hard Place is a dope song that was not a commercial mainstream success like you're trying to state
Where did i say hard place was a commercial success? I literally said the opposite. :dead:
Ur the one pushing success is based on billboard narrative, not me :plzstop:
My point is he is still a sought after producer that is very successful and ur song bein nominated for record and song of the yr is VERY successful. Wtf are u talking about :omf:
yes because billboard is literally what artists look at to see if their song is successful
if Hard Place being Grammy nominated is successful, what kind of success would you call it?
and if Rodney is still a sought after producer, Brandy is a sought after vocalist and still also successful
with her OWN Grammy nomination :uhh:
Ray honestly just in here talking. He apparently didn't even know that darkchild was still popping in 2020 before this convo, so I'm done engaging :omf:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:41:49 PM
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Rodney didnt produce the original version of that
he did a remix that got included in the credits on a technicality
""Stay with Me" was written by Smith, James Napier, William Phillips, with additional credits to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.
I didn't say he wrote it. He produced the grammy winning version :dead:
thats fine but lets no phrase it like Rodney made Sam popular or the song a hit
his original was already big
Ummm it's literally the song that catapulted his career. Ray go YouTube stay with me Darkchild version and tell me what u hear
the fact you're missing the point, and I know Stay With Me was the song that catapulted his career
but Darkchild didnt produce the original song, thats why there even IS a Darkchild version
:kii: :kii: :kii:
Brandy definitely aint seen that kinda success since Rodney tho and Rodney has gone on to have some MAJOR successes outside of Brandy, so Idky that was even being debated anyway :omf:
How is Darkchild "popping in 2020" with no songs even released?
jujhgvyhfyfffffffff
yea stop embarrassing yourself
and even this Sam Smith song is from 2014
:blink:
:plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Destiny Child weren't a FORCE until Say My name which is arguably their most known record
HER isn't some DOMINATING force in music like that, so her music is EXCLUSIVELY why she's been recognized. Hard Place being nominated for Record and Song of the yr isn't because she's just some beyonce type.
Even the Michael Jackson and Toni Hits tbh. They were both coming off of long breaks that were VERY scandalous. They needed heat and went to him. His music wasn't the reason? :omf:
Well if a couple of Grammy nominations and sharing a production credit w/ two other producers is SUCCESS then Brandy is doing just fine.
Say my Name had more to do with the break-up and scandal of the group, not so much Rodney.
His work with Micheal was a flop by MJ's standard and contributed nothing to his legacy. Butterflies is the only song from that album people remember and it's not his. Rodney's work with Toni is nothing to be dragging Brandy over cause his work w/ Toni hasn't performed much better...maybe worst actually.
N you're right HER isn't dominating the music scene...which is my point. Brandy has even more critical acclaim and Rodney ain't her producer.
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Destiny Child weren't a FORCE until Say My name which is arguably their most known record
HER isn't some DOMINATING force in music like that, so her music is EXCLUSIVELY why she's been recognized. Hard Place being nominated for Record and Song of the yr isn't because she's just some beyonce type.
Even the Michael Jackson and Toni Hits tbh. They were both coming off of long breaks that were VERY scandalous. They needed heat and went to him. His music wasn't the reason? :omf:
Well if a couple of Grammy nominations and sharing a production credit w/ two other producers is SUCCESS then Brandy is doing just fine.
Say my Name had more to do with the break-up and scandal of the group, not so much Rodney.
His work with Micheal was a flop by MJ's standard and contributed nothing to his legacy. Butterflies is the only song from that album people remember and it's not his. Rodney's work with Toni is nothing to be dragging Brandy over cause his work w/ Toni hasn't performed much better...maybe worst actually.
N you're right HER isn't dominating the music scene...which is my point. Brandy has even more critical acclaim and Rodney ain't her producer.
Ur doing alot to negate his work. Now THIS sounds bitter :plzstop:
Say my name was number one and went on to be the best r&b song of the yr because of their break up scandal? :kii:
You Rock My world was literally Michael's last solo top 10 hit and if that was a flop for Michael's standards then what about all the other songs he released before it that FLOPPED and didn't go top 10 :plzstop:
I'm not dragging brandy over Toni but he gave Toni a great song and also HER last top 10 hit, so I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. You're going out your way to discredit him and it just kinda sounds like hate :plzstop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB-5XG-DbAA
1 BILLION views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-rGtrkKoH8
89k views
but "Darkchild made it a hit!"
It's the official video why wouldn't it.......nvm :plzstop:
the official video contains the song without Dar...
yea nvm
official stay with me released: March 27th 2014
Darkchild version released:Dec 25th 2014
:kii:
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Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Destiny Child weren't a FORCE until Say My name which is arguably their most known record
HER isn't some DOMINATING force in music like that, so her music is EXCLUSIVELY why she's been recognized. Hard Place being nominated for Record and Song of the yr isn't because she's just some beyonce type.
Even the Michael Jackson and Toni Hits tbh. They were both coming off of long breaks that were VERY scandalous. They needed heat and went to him. His music wasn't the reason? :omf:
Well if a couple of Grammy nominations and sharing a production credit w/ two other producers is SUCCESS then Brandy is doing just fine.
Say my Name had more to do with the break-up and scandal of the group, not so much Rodney.
His work with Micheal was a flop by MJ's standard and contributed nothing to his legacy. Butterflies is the only song from that album people remember and it's not his. Rodney's work with Toni is nothing to be dragging Brandy over cause his work w/ Toni hasn't performed much better...maybe worst actually.
N you're right HER isn't dominating the music scene...which is my point. Brandy has even more critical acclaim and Rodney ain't her producer.
Ur doing alot to negate his work. Now THIS sounds bitter :plzstop:
Say my name was number one and went on to be the best r&b song of the yr because of their break up scandal? :kii:
You Rock My world was literally Michael's last solo top 10 hit and if that was a flop for Michael's standards then what about all the other songs he released before it that FLOPPED and didn't go top 10 :plzstop:
I'm not dragging brandy over Toni but he gave Toni a great song and also HER last top 10 hit, so I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. You're going out your way to discredit him and it just kinda sounds like hate :plzstop:
Im not negating anything, if anything you're giving him too much.
Why TF would I be bitter? At what? For what?
He hasn't had much success recently and I don't think any of Brandy's accomplishments really depend on him being around. They did great work, and she continues to do great with out him
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Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Destiny Child weren't a FORCE until Say My name which is arguably their most known record
HER isn't some DOMINATING force in music like that, so her music is EXCLUSIVELY why she's been recognized. Hard Place being nominated for Record and Song of the yr isn't because she's just some beyonce type.
Even the Michael Jackson and Toni Hits tbh. They were both coming off of long breaks that were VERY scandalous. They needed heat and went to him. His music wasn't the reason? :omf:
Well if a couple of Grammy nominations and sharing a production credit w/ two other producers is SUCCESS then Brandy is doing just fine.
Say my Name had more to do with the break-up and scandal of the group, not so much Rodney.
His work with Micheal was a flop by MJ's standard and contributed nothing to his legacy. Butterflies is the only song from that album people remember and it's not his. Rodney's work with Toni is nothing to be dragging Brandy over cause his work w/ Toni hasn't performed much better...maybe worst actually.
N you're right HER isn't dominating the music scene...which is my point. Brandy has even more critical acclaim and Rodney ain't her producer.
Ur doing alot to negate his work. Now THIS sounds bitter :plzstop:
Say my name was number one and went on to be the best r&b song of the yr because of their break up scandal? :kii:
You Rock My world was literally Michael's last solo top 10 hit and if that was a flop for Michael's standards then what about all the other songs he released before it that FLOPPED and didn't go top 10 :plzstop:
I'm not dragging brandy over Toni but he gave Toni a great song and also HER last top 10 hit, so I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. You're going out your way to discredit him and it just kinda sounds like hate :plzstop:
Im not negating anything, if anything you're giving him too much.
Why TF would I be bitter? At what? For what?
He hasn't had much success recently and I don't think any of Brandy's accomplishments really depend on him being around. They did great work, and she continues to do great with out him
He was LITERALLY just nominated for record and song of the yr in 2019 :plzstop: :kii:
Y'all say anything. If he hasn't much success then Brandy hasn't had ANY by your standards :omf:
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 06, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Destiny Child weren't a FORCE until Say My name which is arguably their most known record
HER isn't some DOMINATING force in music like that, so her music is EXCLUSIVELY why she's been recognized. Hard Place being nominated for Record and Song of the yr isn't because she's just some beyonce type.
Even the Michael Jackson and Toni Hits tbh. They were both coming off of long breaks that were VERY scandalous. They needed heat and went to him. His music wasn't the reason? :omf:
Well if a couple of Grammy nominations and sharing a production credit w/ two other producers is SUCCESS then Brandy is doing just fine.
Say my Name had more to do with the break-up and scandal of the group, not so much Rodney.
His work with Micheal was a flop by MJ's standard and contributed nothing to his legacy. Butterflies is the only song from that album people remember and it's not his. Rodney's work with Toni is nothing to be dragging Brandy over cause his work w/ Toni hasn't performed much better...maybe worst actually.
N you're right HER isn't dominating the music scene...which is my point. Brandy has even more critical acclaim and Rodney ain't her producer.
Ur doing alot to negate his work. Now THIS sounds bitter :plzstop:
Say my name was number one and went on to be the best r&b song of the yr because of their break up scandal? :kii:
You Rock My world was literally Michael's last solo top 10 hit and if that was a flop for Michael's standards then what about all the other songs he released before it that FLOPPED and didn't go top 10 :plzstop:
I'm not dragging brandy over Toni but he gave Toni a great song and also HER last top 10 hit, so I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. You're going out your way to discredit him and it just kinda sounds like hate :plzstop:
Im not negating anything, if anything you're giving him too much.
Why TF would I be bitter? At what? For what?
He hasn't had much success recently and I don't think any of Brandy's accomplishments really depend on him being around. They did great work, and she continues to do great with out him
He was LITERALLY just nominated for record and song of the yr in 2019 :plzstop: :kii:
Y'all say anything. If he hasn't much success then Brandy hasn't had ANY by your standards :omf:
Yeah my success for Bran isn't determined by a Grammy Nom
My success for her is dependent on her continuing to be the dominate inspiration in her genre and her remaining relevant. She's currently doing both while Rodney is on Vlad TV.
not this nigga NOT getting this award for his version of the song
Song of the Year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Song_of_the_Year)"Stay with Me (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stay_with_Me_(Sam_Smith_song))" (Darkchild (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkchild) Version)1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/57th_Annual_Grammy_Awards#endnote_1)James Napier, William Phillips and Sam Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Smith_(singer)), songwriters (Sam Smith)
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Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
Sam Smith was a no one until Stay With Me
Destiny Child weren't a FORCE until Say My name which is arguably their most known record
HER isn't some DOMINATING force in music like that, so her music is EXCLUSIVELY why she's been recognized. Hard Place being nominated for Record and Song of the yr isn't because she's just some beyonce type.
Even the Michael Jackson and Toni Hits tbh. They were both coming off of long breaks that were VERY scandalous. They needed heat and went to him. His music wasn't the reason? :omf:
Well if a couple of Grammy nominations and sharing a production credit w/ two other producers is SUCCESS then Brandy is doing just fine.
Say my Name had more to do with the break-up and scandal of the group, not so much Rodney.
His work with Micheal was a flop by MJ's standard and contributed nothing to his legacy. Butterflies is the only song from that album people remember and it's not his. Rodney's work with Toni is nothing to be dragging Brandy over cause his work w/ Toni hasn't performed much better...maybe worst actually.
N you're right HER isn't dominating the music scene...which is my point. Brandy has even more critical acclaim and Rodney ain't her producer.
Ur doing alot to negate his work. Now THIS sounds bitter :plzstop:
Say my name was number one and went on to be the best r&b song of the yr because of their break up scandal? :kii:
You Rock My world was literally Michael's last solo top 10 hit and if that was a flop for Michael's standards then what about all the other songs he released before it that FLOPPED and didn't go top 10 :plzstop:
I'm not dragging brandy over Toni but he gave Toni a great song and also HER last top 10 hit, so I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. You're going out your way to discredit him and it just kinda sounds like hate :plzstop:
Im not negating anything, if anything you're giving him too much.
Why TF would I be bitter? At what? For what?
He hasn't had much success recently and I don't think any of Brandy's accomplishments really depend on him being around. They did great work, and she continues to do great with out him
He was LITERALLY just nominated for record and song of the yr in 2019 :plzstop: :kii:
Y'all say anything. If he hasn't much success then Brandy hasn't had ANY by your standards :omf:
Yeah my success for Bran isn't determined by a Grammy Nom
My success for her is dependent on her continuing to be the dominate inspiration in her genre and her remaining relevant. She's currently doing both while Rodney is on Vlad TV.
Doesn't Brandy do true exclusive interviews? :kii:
Just say ur fine with brandy' s level of success and relevance because if we're gonna compare and contrast with Rodneys then...... :unsure:
I'm glad that Brandy is still out here on her hustle but Rodney is definitely still doing big things
Can you explain what these "BIG THINGS" are, because a Grammy nomination for one/two songs isn't groundbreaking.
Bran got nominated for a Grammy...so what else he doing? Right now?
lol... this thread has went completely left
y'all remember it is about Rodney talking about Aaliyah right? lol
Quote from: Eh... on October 06, 2020, 05:38:42 PM
lol... this thread has went completely left
y'all remember it is about Rodney talking about Aaliyah right? lol
That's another thread actually.. this one is about Brandy and Rodney
I do get a bitter vibe from him
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Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
"Borderline" is an example. The video garnered over 100K likes on YouTube in August and has people on Twitter and YouTube talking about how addictive it is and the emotions it evokes. "Borderline" is a staple song for her now and will garner her many of awards because of its acclaim. b7 and "Borderline" are that girl.
I agree. I don't think Rodney and Brandy should EVER be together again. I've said that. I like her music better with timbaland. Y'ALL like full trash, not me. I'm just stating the fact that brandy hasn't seen mainstream success outside of Rodney. No need to feel a way about it, it's just the truth. I prefer the artist brandy that does the Afrodisiac, B7 music tho
Ack! The way I agree with this! Brandy & Darkchild can pay each other DUST for the rest of their lives... it's Timbo she needs to continue bonding with for her adult career... have a "Loose" moment w/ him
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Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Rodney ain't cooking shit and hasn't been cooking shit that will make Brandy anything
more or less than she is/was.
Her most critically acclaimed music is without him.
Furthermore, a lot of Rodney's hits had more to do with the dominance of the artist rather than his music.
"Borderline" is an example. The video garnered over 100K likes on YouTube in August and has people on Twitter and YouTube talking about how addictive it is and the emotions it evokes. "Borderline" is a staple song for her now and will garner her many of awards because of its acclaim. b7 and "Borderline" are that girl.
I agree. I don't think Rodney and Brandy should EVER be together again. I've said that. I like her music better with timbaland. Y'ALL like full trash, not me. I'm just stating the fact that brandy hasn't seen mainstream success outside of Rodney. No need to feel a way about it, it's just the truth. I prefer the artist brandy that does the Afrodisiac, B7 music tho
Ack! The way I agree with this! Brandy & Darkchild can pay each other DUST for the rest of their lives... it's Timbo she needs to continue bonding with for her adult career... have a "Loose" moment w/ him
Quote from: Kalifornia. on October 06, 2020, 06:12:33 PM
I do get a bitter vibe from him
Exactly. Why don't people want to admit this?
I really hope she has more adult success b/c TIRED :dead: of all the without Rodney she ain't shit &/or TBIM is always her only Grammy mess... like I want sis to win so the GP & Brandy can move the fuck on from '98... like I don't even want her 90s era in her setlists no more unless she's doing anniversary tours/performances
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Quote from: Eh... on October 06, 2020, 05:38:42 PM
lol... this thread has went completely left
y'all remember it is about Rodney talking about Aaliyah right? lol
That's another thread actually.. this one is about Brandy and Rodney
🤦🏾♂️ Yeah I saw after I posted lol
Quote from: Eh... on October 05, 2020, 08:27:28 PM
This song seem like more stress than it was worth... It was in the contract that neither one could have more adlibs than the other lol
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I mean .... I'm sorry but I would've done the same thing
Same as doing a song with Kim Burrell.
Bitch you get 3 good runs and dassit,
not about to make me look foolish Ooh-ing and Aah-ing while you're all over the scale after the bridge
:melmel:
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on October 06, 2020, 05:19:24 PM
Can you explain what these "BIG THINGS" are, because a Grammy nomination for one/two songs isn't groundbreaking.
Bran got nominated for a Grammy...so what else he doing? Right now?
:dead:
Quote from: Harlem on October 06, 2020, 06:53:50 PM
I really hope she has more adult success b/c TIRED :dead: of all the without Rodney she ain't shit &/or TBIM is always her only Grammy mess... like I want sis to win so the GP & Brandy can move the fuck on from '98... like I don't even want her 90s era in her setlists no more unless she's doing anniversary tours/performances
I agree. I think that Rodney talk is so stupid. They tried and y'all didn't like Human, so let it fckn go
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Quote from: Eh... on October 05, 2020, 08:27:28 PM
This song seem like more stress than it was worth... It was in the contract that neither one could have more adlibs than the other lol
sssssssssssssssss
I mean .... I'm sorry but I would've done the same thing
Same as doing a song with Kim Burrell.
Bitch you get 3 good runs and dassit,
not about to make me look foolish Ooh-ing and Aah-ing while you're all over the scale after the bridge
:melmel:
Lol
Rodney is so much classier than Dallas Austin. Love it