Could Bey have started off Solo?

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pettypatty

Quote from: Sleigh My Name on November 30, 2016, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on November 30, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Being in Destiny's Child helped her as a performer
If Bey came out solo in 1997  :dead: it would have been a flop
Her voice was MESS then, her country ass accent, she was mediocre and cute in 97'.
But at the same time better than everyone in her group

Bey progressed over the years in Destiny's Child, in every aspect.
It took her a good 5 years to become the "Beyonc?" solo artist and performer we see today.

Where's the rule that you have to come out the gate swinging?
Janet had 2 flop albums before she found herself and what works for her.
well that's what this thread is about  :diddraispoot:

RAY7

Quote from: pettypatty on November 30, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Being in Destiny's Child helped her as a performer
If Bey came out solo in 1997  :dead: it would have been a flop
Her voice was MESS then, her country ass accent, she was mediocre and cute in 97'.
But at the same time better than everyone in her group


so with all that said Destiny's Child still sold a lot of albums
so either ppl don't care how mediocre she was and still wanted to buy music for her or they liked LaTavia

pettypatty

Quote from: AYR on November 30, 2016, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on November 30, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Being in Destiny's Child helped her as a performer
If Bey came out solo in 1997  :dead: it would have been a flop
Her voice was MESS then, her country ass accent, she was mediocre and cute in 97'.
But at the same time better than everyone in her group


so with all that said Destiny's Child still sold a lot of albums
so either ppl don't care how mediocre she was and still wanted to buy music for her or they liked LaTavia
Huh  :damselindistress:

Plenty of girl groups sold lots of albums.  :calmdownsis:

RAY7

Quote from: pettypatty on November 30, 2016, 04:02:16 PM
Quote from: AYR on November 30, 2016, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on November 30, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Being in Destiny's Child helped her as a performer
If Bey came out solo in 1997  :dead: it would have been a flop
Her voice was MESS then, her country ass accent, she was mediocre and cute in 97'.
But at the same time better than everyone in her group


so with all that said Destiny's Child still sold a lot of albums
so either ppl don't care how mediocre she was and still wanted to buy music for her or they liked LaTavia
Huh  :damselindistress:

Plenty of girl groups sold lots of albums.  :calmdownsis:
not as much as DC did
:receipts:
So clearly it doesn't matter if Bey was mediocre or not

CHOKE

Quote from: FadedEnvy on November 30, 2016, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on November 29, 2016, 02:24:05 PM
A story of the lead singer of the group becoming an even bigger solo artist is just a better a story.

There are only a few that have done it and all of them are legends.

This is why I never got the theory that DC was always just a vehicle in Matthew's master plan for Bee's rise to solo superstardom. There wasn't much precedent for girl group members turned solo superstars back then for him to place all of his eggs in that basket, I mean there was Diana...who else?

Most members of even the most successful groups can't ever break away from being seen as group members, so based on statistics a safer "master plan" would have been to just launch her solo from the start.

The group formed when Bee was 8 years old, at that age solo or group likely didn't even matter. No actually I'd say any 8 year old would much prefer to be able to have what was pretty much 24-7 sleepovers with 3 of their best friends, over doing it alone. All of the girls talk about how much fun they had during that time, from a child prospective it probably felt like their own secret club, if anything that comradery is what made being in the group vs solo more appealing to her.

She always had solo star looks, was the strongest vocalist of the group, and the connection to the industry was her dad who ran the show, typically when someone uses a group to launch their career they usually lack in one of those 3 areas. She didn't need them.

You can argue that she wasn't as polished back then, but first off that's in retrospect, and mainly in comparison to what she eventually became but lers not act like she was getting picked apart for her performances back then, even then she was considered one of the better live singers of the young bunch. Secondly her potential to become what she has become now was always there group or no. Being pushed completely solo from the start would have just forced her to tap into that potential sooner rather than later.

This unfiltered TRUTH

:gorlonfire:

FadedEnvy

Quote from: Chokeme on November 30, 2016, 04:29:50 PM
Quote from: FadedEnvy on November 30, 2016, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on November 29, 2016, 02:24:05 PM
A story of the lead singer of the group becoming an even bigger solo artist is just a better a story.

There are only a few that have done it and all of them are legends.

This is why I never got the theory that DC was always just a vehicle in Matthew's master plan for Bee's rise to solo superstardom. There wasn't much precedent for girl group members turned solo superstars back then for him to place all of his eggs in that basket, I mean there was Diana...who else?

Most members of even the most successful groups can't ever break away from being seen as group members, so based on statistics a safer "master plan" would have been to just launch her solo from the start.

The group formed when Bee was 8 years old, at that age solo or group likely didn't even matter. No actually I'd say any 8 year old would much prefer to be able to have what was pretty much 24-7 sleepovers with 3 of their best friends, over doing it alone. All of the girls talk about how much fun they had during that time, from a child prospective it probably felt like their own secret club, if anything that comradery is what made being in the group vs solo more appealing to her.

She always had solo star looks, was the strongest vocalist of the group, and the connection to the industry was her dad who ran the show, typically when someone uses a group to launch their career they usually lack in one of those 3 areas. She didn't need them.

You can argue that she wasn't as polished back then, but first off that's in retrospect, and mainly in comparison to what she eventually became but lers not act like she was getting picked apart for her performances back then, even then she was considered one of the better live singers of the young bunch. Secondly her potential to become what she has become now was always there group or no. Being pushed completely solo from the start would have just forced her to tap into that potential sooner rather than later.

This unfiltered TRUTH

:gorlonfire:

:feelinmyself:

And to add to that, I'm listening to early DC Bey live vocals vs Aaliyah live around that time and... :diddraispoot:

On a side note when you posted that Claymore clip in that Ashanti/Mya/Keri vs Bey thread I instantly got hooked and binge watched all 26 Eps, and I had never even heard of that shit b4, I'm going through withdrawals.  :oof: