sentencing a 13 year old to 100 years in prison? (UPDATE: He's going free!)

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BruceTruMusicFan

Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 05, 2024, 10:10:18 PM
Quote from: MÃE (MUVA) on October 05, 2024, 08:14:49 PMi just wouldn't expect someone that young to really have significant foresight into what their choices can do to their lives.

i would. 13 years old is plenty old enough to understand the consequences of robery and murder.

But is it really? At any age, what we understand is the sum of our experiences and what we've been taught. What a child in Beverly Hills, a child in Syria, or a child in the projects in the 80s thinks of robbery and murder will all be completely different. Some kids are taught how to regulate their emotions; in my opinion, a large percentage of Black children are not. They are not taught how to deal with disappointment. Many were used to being whipped relentlessly for making basic mistakes, especially back then.

I can't say if he does or doesn't deserve to spend 100 years in jail, but I will say this: the goal of our justice system should be to determine if the person can be rehabilitated. And if you, offer them resources to accomplish this especially for juveniles. He is also a victim, no matter how you want to look at it.

Plastic.

October 06, 2024, 09:42:14 AM #16 Last Edit: October 06, 2024, 09:42:39 AM by Plastic.
i mean he murdered two ppl :plzstop:


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stillpretty

October 06, 2024, 09:46:04 AM #17 Last Edit: October 06, 2024, 11:47:21 AM by MÃE (MUVA)
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on October 06, 2024, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 05, 2024, 10:10:18 PM
Quote from: MÃE (MUVA) on October 05, 2024, 08:14:49 PMi just wouldn't expect someone that young to really have significant foresight into what their choices can do to their lives.

i would. 13 years old is plenty old enough to understand the consequences of robery and murder.

But is it really? At any age, what we understand is the sum of our experiences and what we've been taught. What a child in Beverly Hills, a child in Syria, or a child in the projects in the 80s thinks of robbery and murder will all be completely different. Some kids are taught how to regulate their emotions; in my opinion, a large percentage of Black children are not. They are not taught how to deal with disappointment. Many were used to being whipped relentlessly for making basic mistakes, especially back then.

I can't say if he does or doesn't deserve to spend 100 years in jail, but I will say this: the goal of our justice system should be to determine if the person can be rehabilitated. And if you, offer them resources to accomplish this especially for juveniles. He is also a victim, no matter how you want to look at it.
you're making sense

Rons mother admitted she failed him and his incarceration forced her to get her life together . He was home by himself at 13 years old when he went out and got in trouble

I'm so thankful I didn't grow up in an environment where certain things were normalized . It does make a difference .

Being exposed to things as a CHILD makes a difference

Which is why most mental health professionals bring their patients BACK to their childhood to reflect on things before digging into the present

Because you were too young to truly understand how things that happened to you can affect you ... as they were happening

That goes for everything from a child being groomed and sexually abused , to how being in an empty house by themselves with no guardian in sight for hours or days at a time , could have had an impact.

Only a desensitized, lost, ANGRY child could do What he did.

And considering his situation at home , is it really a surprise that he was lost and angry?

It's interesting that the woman REJECTING his offer is what kicked off the mess. It's giving an extreme case of "mommy issues" - which a child does not have enough mental capacity to effectively process .
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Barbie Dangerous

October 06, 2024, 09:48:56 AM #18 Last Edit: October 06, 2024, 10:24:34 AM by Barbie Dangerous
So it appears he was convicted with a double-homicide. I don't think that's fair considering there are adults who have done far worse and received far less time and manslaughter charges. He was a child and it didn't seem like murder was his intent.




stillpretty

October 06, 2024, 10:24:24 AM #21 Last Edit: October 06, 2024, 10:25:40 AM by MÃE (MUVA)
Quote from: ❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️ on October 06, 2024, 10:14:36 AMKeep his lil bad ass locked up.
appears u didn't look into the story before replying

His "lil bad ass" is like 50 years old 

decades of time already served.
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stillpretty

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Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

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stillpretty

October 06, 2024, 10:45:00 AM #24 Last Edit: October 06, 2024, 11:48:07 AM by MÃE (MUVA)
And this is kinda the problem when it comes to discussing this type of situation

People screaming "sounds good tah me! :plea: " without even knowing the facts. Even something as simple as who the convict is and how old he is now :uhh:

To say it's a  simple-minded way to approach the conversation is an understatement.

i'd even go as far to say it's irresponsible as well

But in a way it makes sense. If someone doesn't care enough to gather the most simple context on a story before rendering their judgement , they definitely won't care about details past the most simple things like ... name and age .
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admc

Where do the victims' families stand on this? I think that's what matters most.

Barbie Dangerous

Quote from: admc on October 06, 2024, 12:33:30 PMWhere do the victims' families stand on this? I think that's what matters most.
They've requested appeals and feel that he's served his time.


stillpretty

October 06, 2024, 12:51:11 PM #27 Last Edit: October 06, 2024, 12:53:29 PM by MÃE (MUVA)
just did some digging for updates ..

the courts granted him release for 2024!!!!!

push through Ron.

he's served decades for a horrible crime he committed as a child.

glad the courts are rethinking and FIXING their past decisions of throwing SIMPLE answers to COMPLEX situations.

he was the YOUNGEST person to be convicted of murder in Indiana at the time and they CLEARLY didn't know how to handle him or THINK far enough before slamming down the gavel during sentencing.



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Barbie Dangerous

So is it safe to say that the state of IN felt his sentencing was a bit too extreme?



stillpretty

Quote from: Barbie Dangerous on October 06, 2024, 12:59:12 PMSo is it safe to say that the state of IN felt his sentencing was a bit too extreme?


yup!

i still think he served too much time....but at 50 years old, he still has a CHANCE at living life.

im so happy for him

and just wanna HUG that little Black boy from 1989 and figure out why hes so angry .



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Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated to be only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



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