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in 2012, the Supreme Court ruled that lifetime sentences for minors is UNCONSTITUTIONAL:

In 2012, deciding Miller and Jackson jointly, the U.S. Supreme Court held that, for people under 18, mandatory life without parole sentences violate the Eighth Amendment. Writing for the majority, Justice Kagan emphasized that judges must be able to consider the characteristics of young defendants in order to issue a fair and individualized sentence. Adolescence is marked by "transient rashness, proclivity for risk, and inability to assess consequences," all factors that should mitigate the punishment received by juvenile defendants.

https://www.sentencingproject.org/policy-brief/juvenile-life-without-parole-an-overview/


YES YES YES!

why do you keep saying that they dont see how this will impact their lives at 13 years? So they should only not kill because it would impact their life? I do agree that the brain is obviously not fully developed by age 13. However we already know what it means for someone to die/ be dead at a much younger age, even at 5-7 years old that is somewhat learned.

I do think this is exaggerated if it wasnt premeditated m*rder.

i say that because consequences in courtrooms are handed out usually with the assumption that the person not only knew what they did was wrong, but they had to be aware of the consequences that would follow as well.

there's a reason why the justice system makes "examples" of people with heavier sentencing sometimes.
in hopes of said sentencing making the local/national news, or hitting newspapers

it's to send a MESSAGE that they will push for the maximum punishment on certain crimes
to make adults THINK TWICE before committing said crimes

so there is something to be said about someone being fully aware of how their actions will affect them in the long run

in fact, that's a huge reason most adults THINK TWICE before committing crimes.
even if they REALLY wanna harm their ex-boyfriend. or throw a brick into someones house as revenge

it's not JUST about it being wrong. it's about the TROUBLE and CONSEQUENCES they'll face and being aware of the LIKELIHOOD of them getting caught and held accountable

the entire justice system is actually kinda BUILT on preventing crime with the THREAT OF CONSEQUENCE.

a child is less likely to take that time and THINK TWICE before doing certain things, even if they are wrong
because they are a CHILD.

as in, there's less opportunity for COMMON SENSE and BETTER JUDGEMENT  to override IMPULSIVE BEHAVIOR.

does this make sense?

the justice system just wasn't thinking FAR and DEEPLY enough at the time of Ron's sentencing!

its not JUST about knowing right from wrong ....knowing the CONSEQUENCES is a HUGE part of this!

[stillpretty]

my heart was HURTING for Ron listening to his story

and im glad i wasn't crazy for feeling that way.

[Ulysses]

Yeah, he should still be in jail.

At 13 we all know how bad murder is and the consequences eidkdlsldbcjdjsksbs

Now if he goes murdering someone after release, sentence him immediately to death and remind all of the folks who wanted the monster released of what he did every day so THEY know better...

[stillpretty]

At 13 we all know how bad murder is and the consequences

the supreme court doesn't agree with the blatant simplicity of ur thinking

thank god that people who think like u dont have the lives of others in their hands.

especially children

[stillpretty]

it's not only slightly heartless and tone deaf to see things like this with children

but beyond that, it's simply illogical and senseless based on scientific fact.

and proves that even adults sometimes don't know what's right and wrong.

[Ulysses]

At 13 we all know how bad murder is and the consequences

the supreme court doesn't agree with the blatant simplicity of ur thinking

thank god that people who think like u dont have the lives of others in their hands.

especially children

You must've been a slow 13 year old...

[stillpretty]

At 13 we all know how bad murder is and the consequences

the supreme court doesn't agree with the blatant simplicity of ur thinking

thank god that people who think like u dont have the lives of others in their hands.

especially children

You must've been a slow 13 year old...

coming from someone who concluded that 13 year olds have complete understanding of consequence

im not the slow one, luv

the supreme court and science backs only one of our conclusions, and it's not yours.

[Ulysses]

At 13 we all know how bad murder is and the consequences

the supreme court doesn't agree with the blatant simplicity of ur thinking

thank god that people who think like u dont have the lives of others in their hands.

especially children

You must've been a slow 13 year old...

coming from someone who concluded that 13 year olds have complete understanding of consequence

im not the slow one, luv

the supreme court and science backs only one of our conclusions, and it's not yours.

At 13, I was already held accountable for my actions in school. My grades were already setting me up for college and I was accountable for that.

At 13, I was also babysitting 2 young kids 3 days a week to start saving money. I was held accountable for the lives of 2 young children while their parents weren't around to do it.

At what age is it acceptable for someone to murder TWO people and be held accountable for what they've done? Is 18 years old the age when murderers FINALLY understand their consequences??

And let's not forget the Supreme Court doesn't always get it right. ESPECIALLY recently diwksjdjskansk

[stillpretty]

At 13 we all know how bad murder is and the consequences

the supreme court doesn't agree with the blatant simplicity of ur thinking

thank god that people who think like u dont have the lives of others in their hands.

especially children

You must've been a slow 13 year old...

coming from someone who concluded that 13 year olds have complete understanding of consequence

im not the slow one, luv

the supreme court and science backs only one of our conclusions, and it's not yours.

At 13, I was already held accountable for my actions in school. My grades were already setting me up for college and I was accountable for that.

At 13, I was also babysitting 2 young kids 3 days a week to start saving money. I was held accountable for the lives of 2 young children while their parents weren't around to do it.

At what age is it acceptable for someone to murder TWO people and be held accountable for what they've done? Is 18 years old the age when murderers FINALLY understand their consequences??

And let's not forget the Supreme Court doesn't always get it right. ESPECIALLY recently diwksjdjskansk

yeah, the supreme court deciding that children shouldn't be given life sentences was clearly a huge fumble.

Uly when u find ur heart let me know

[stillpretty]

what's next if we push this idea that children are so aware and informed of every choice they make and how it can affect them long-term?

opening up the doors for pedos to have romantic relationships with children - just because the child says or thinks they're in love with the man?

 because u know...they have the same foresight as adults. they're aware of consequences! why not?

 

[Ulysses]

At 13 we all know how bad murder is and the consequences

the supreme court doesn't agree with the blatant simplicity of ur thinking

thank god that people who think like u dont have the lives of others in their hands.

especially children

You must've been a slow 13 year old...

coming from someone who concluded that 13 year olds have complete understanding of consequence

im not the slow one, luv

the supreme court and science backs only one of our conclusions, and it's not yours.

At 13, I was already held accountable for my actions in school. My grades were already setting me up for college and I was accountable for that.

At 13, I was also babysitting 2 young kids 3 days a week to start saving money. I was held accountable for the lives of 2 young children while their parents weren't around to do it.

At what age is it acceptable for someone to murder TWO people and be held accountable for what they've done? Is 18 years old the age when murderers FINALLY understand their consequences??

And let's not forget the Supreme Court doesn't always get it right. ESPECIALLY recently diwksjdjskansk

yeah, the supreme court deciding that children shouldn't be given life sentences was clearly a huge fumble.

Uly when u find ur heart let me know

I suppose I may be more intelligent than the average person and understand consequences for my actions, even as a youngin. BUT I DO have a heart for the people who were murdered in this case, in other cases and protecting others from FUTURE monsters. That is where my heart is. Little Timmy shouldn't get a slap on the wrist for murdering 2 people because he didn't realize he could spend his whole life in prison instead of just a few years at the age of 13. Little Timmy is STILL a monster and a threat to many innocent lives.

[𝖘𝖖𝖚𝖎𝖉]

Wow so they stabbed the 83 year old woman multiple times. And when the 87 year old sister came home, they stabbed her too.
How can someone at that age do that?

[stillpretty]

At 13 we all know how bad murder is and the consequences

the supreme court doesn't agree with the blatant simplicity of ur thinking

thank god that people who think like u dont have the lives of others in their hands.

especially children

You must've been a slow 13 year old...

coming from someone who concluded that 13 year olds have complete understanding of consequence

im not the slow one, luv

the supreme court and science backs only one of our conclusions, and it's not yours.

At 13, I was already held accountable for my actions in school. My grades were already setting me up for college and I was accountable for that.

At 13, I was also babysitting 2 young kids 3 days a week to start saving money. I was held accountable for the lives of 2 young children while their parents weren't around to do it.

At what age is it acceptable for someone to murder TWO people and be held accountable for what they've done? Is 18 years old the age when murderers FINALLY understand their consequences??

And let's not forget the Supreme Court doesn't always get it right. ESPECIALLY recently diwksjdjskansk

yeah, the supreme court deciding that children shouldn't be given life sentences was clearly a huge fumble.

Uly when u find ur heart let me know

I suppose I may be more intelligent than the average person and understand consequences for my actions, even as a youngin. BUT I DO have a heart for the people who were murdered in this case, in other cases and protecting others from FUTURE monsters. That is where my heart is. Little Timmy shouldn't get a slap on the wrist for murdering 2 people because he didn't realize he could spend his whole life in prison instead of just a few years at the age of 13. Little Timmy is STILL a monster and a threat to many innocent lives.

being sent to prison at 13 and leaving at 50 is barely a "slap on the wrist".

[stillpretty]

Wow so they stabbed the 83 year old woman multiple times. And when the 87 year old sister came home, they stabbed her too.
How can someone at that age do that?

mental stability/illness is yet another layer which i'm sure was a factor - especially considering the home he came from.
and i use the word "home" loosely, considering there was no one there to supervise him or keep him company.

but i highly doubt they were taking time to psychoanalyze this little Black boy in Indiana in 1989.

even though he was the youngest murder convict in the state's history.

cut a deal with the accomplice and throw his ass in jail so we can get this case done with

[Ulysses]

At 13 we all know how bad murder is and the consequences

the supreme court doesn't agree with the blatant simplicity of ur thinking

thank god that people who think like u dont have the lives of others in their hands.

especially children

You must've been a slow 13 year old...

coming from someone who concluded that 13 year olds have complete understanding of consequence

im not the slow one, luv

the supreme court and science backs only one of our conclusions, and it's not yours.

At 13, I was already held accountable for my actions in school. My grades were already setting me up for college and I was accountable for that.

At 13, I was also babysitting 2 young kids 3 days a week to start saving money. I was held accountable for the lives of 2 young children while their parents weren't around to do it.

At what age is it acceptable for someone to murder TWO people and be held accountable for what they've done? Is 18 years old the age when murderers FINALLY understand their consequences??

And let's not forget the Supreme Court doesn't always get it right. ESPECIALLY recently diwksjdjskansk

yeah, the supreme court deciding that children shouldn't be given life sentences was clearly a huge fumble.

Uly when u find ur heart let me know

I suppose I may be more intelligent than the average person and understand consequences for my actions, even as a youngin. BUT I DO have a heart for the people who were murdered in this case, in other cases and protecting others from FUTURE monsters. That is where my heart is. Little Timmy shouldn't get a slap on the wrist for murdering 2 people because he didn't realize he could spend his whole life in prison instead of just a few years at the age of 13. Little Timmy is STILL a monster and a threat to many innocent lives.

being sent to prison at 13 and leaving at 50 is barely a "slap on the wrist".

100% it is.

You want to be cute and take LIFE away from someone who didn't want it that way. Better yet, TWO people that didn't want it that way?

You should now be trading your OWN life. Fair is fair...