sentencing a 13 year old to 100 years in prison? (UPDATE: He's going free!)

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Quote from: Ulysses on October 06, 2024, 05:09:10 PM
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Quote from: Ulysses on October 06, 2024, 03:45:29 PMAt 13 we all know how bad murder is and the consequences


the supreme court doesn't agree with the blatant simplicity of ur thinking

thank god that people who think like u dont have the lives of others in their hands.

especially children

You must've been a slow 13 year old...
coming from someone who concluded that 13 year olds have complete understanding of consequence

im not the slow one, luv

the supreme court and science backs only one of our conclusions, and it's not yours.
At 13, I was already held accountable for my actions in school. My grades were already setting me up for college and I was accountable for that.

At 13, I was also babysitting 2 young kids 3 days a week to start saving money. I was held accountable for the lives of 2 young children while their parents weren't around to do it.

At what age is it acceptable for someone to murder TWO people and be held accountable for what they've done? Is 18 years old the age when murderers FINALLY understand their consequences??

And let's not forget the Supreme Court doesn't always get it right. ESPECIALLY recently diwksjdjskansk
yeah, the supreme court deciding that children shouldn't be given life sentences was clearly a huge fumble.

Uly when u find ur heart let me know
I suppose I may be more intelligent than the average person and understand consequences for my actions, even as a youngin. BUT I DO have a heart for the people who were murdered in this case, in other cases and protecting others from FUTURE monsters. That is where my heart is. Little Timmy shouldn't get a slap on the wrist for murdering 2 people because he didn't realize he could spend his whole life in prison instead of just a few years at the age of 13. Little Timmy is STILL a monster and a threat to many innocent lives.
being sent to prison at 13 and leaving at 50 is barely a "slap on the wrist".
100% it is.

You want to be cute and take LIFE away from someone who didn't want it that way. Better yet, TWO people that didn't want it that way?

You should now be trading your OWN life. Fair is fair...
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Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on October 06, 2024, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 05, 2024, 10:10:18 PM
Quote from: MÃE (MUVA) on October 05, 2024, 08:14:49 PMi just wouldn't expect someone that young to really have significant foresight into what their choices can do to their lives.

i would. 13 years old is plenty old enough to understand the consequences of robery and murder.

But is it really?

yes. :uhh:

The Brandy Barbie

A lot of the times, you can think prison will change someone, but most of the time they get right back out and start doing the same things. Letting someone out as a 45 year old, when they are still old enough to run and sneak around is not a good idea. Murders shouldn't be let out until they're in their 70s, when they are too old and out of shape to want to do anything else.

stillpretty

Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on October 06, 2024, 06:43:56 PMA lot of the times, you can think prison will change someone, but most of the time they get right back out and start doing the same things. Letting someone out as a 45 year old, when they are still old enough to run and sneak around is not a good idea. Murders shouldn't be let out until they're in their 70s, when they are too old and out of shape to want to do anything else.
this makes sense for adults who were imprisoned in their adult years

but it's kinda unfair and unreasonable to assume maturity wouldn't change someone who was imprisoned at 13 years old

to assume that a 50 year old would have the same mindset as they did at 13

especially considering all the work Ron has done, all the reading (of quality/meaningful/productive material) he's done. if you watch the video in the OP you'll see he has come into his manhood pretty nicely - especially considering the environment in which he had to do so

i dont hear a 13 year old boy trapped in a man's body when i listen to Ronald speak. and im actually impressed with the progress he's made considering he didn't make it to high school before being locked up.

but as i mentioned earlier, i'd recommend a thorough psychological evaluation of the person before release.
not just for the safety of the public, but it's better for the convict as well

as they have never walked the streets as a free adult before. just to give them a little guidance and realistic expectations.

also, assuming someone will actually live to 70 years old..especially in the prison system where the available nutrition, healthcare and safety isn't exactly A+ , is quite the stretch. u might as well just say , "let them die in there".

if someone's convicted of murder at 30, by all means. but saying a 13 year old should stay in prison well into their senior citizen years is wild.


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JCJ

Fro's kind of lashing in here but I do see the other side as well

stillpretty

:woohoo:

my cousin is up for nomination as a judge in november

and im not just happy about that and rooting for her cuz im head over heels in love with her and shes easily one of my top 3 favorite cousins

but because i already know what she'd say if i brought this case to her and asked for her opinion.

we need more people like her in those seats making these decisions

especially when young Black lives are hanging in the balance.
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Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated to be only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



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Ulysses

Quote from: JCJ 🪐 on October 06, 2024, 06:56:54 PMFro's kind of lashing in here but I do see the other side as well
I actually kinda ended him in here, honestly

stillpretty

Quote from: Ulysses on October 06, 2024, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: JCJ 🪐 on October 06, 2024, 06:56:54 PMFro's kind of lashing in here but I do see the other side as well
I actually kinda ended him in here, honestly
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oph.

the idea that a 13 year old doesn't understand the consequences of theft and murder is utterly assenine. what did he think? he would be taken up to cloud jail with the unicorns? bvccccczzzzss like, let's be FORREAL. the ONLY grace i can give someone at that age is if they were mentally challenged.

Barbie Dangerous

Quote from: MÃE (MUVA) on October 06, 2024, 01:08:35 PM
Quote from: Barbie Dangerous on October 06, 2024, 12:59:12 PMSo is it safe to say that the state of IN felt his sentencing was a bit too extreme?


yup!

i still think he served too much time....but at 50 years old, he still has a CHANCE at living life.

im so happy for him

and just wanna HUG that little Black boy from 1989 and figure out why hes so angry .




https://twitter.com/findareaction/status/1563954801649618945


stillpretty

Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 06, 2024, 08:47:39 PMthe idea that a 13 year old doesn't understand the consequences of theft and murder is utterly assenine.
not according to the supreme court as of 2012 babes

Project started: 2014
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Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated to be only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



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stillpretty

Quote from: Barbie Dangerous on October 06, 2024, 08:51:50 PM
Quote from: MÃE (MUVA) on October 06, 2024, 01:08:35 PM
Quote from: Barbie Dangerous on October 06, 2024, 12:59:12 PMSo is it safe to say that the state of IN felt his sentencing was a bit too extreme?


yup!

i still think he served too much time....but at 50 years old, he still has a CHANCE at living life.

im so happy for him

and just wanna HUG that little Black boy from 1989 and figure out why hes so angry .




https://twitter.com/findareaction/status/1563954801649618945
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Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated to be only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

oph.

Quote from: MÃE (MUVA) on October 06, 2024, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 06, 2024, 08:47:39 PMthe idea that a 13 year old doesn't understand the consequences of theft and murder is utterly assenine.
not according to the supreme court as of 2012 babes



it is according to the indiana state courts


stillpretty

Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 07, 2024, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: MÃE (MUVA) on October 06, 2024, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 06, 2024, 08:47:39 PMthe idea that a 13 year old doesn't understand the consequences of theft and murder is utterly assenine.
not according to the supreme court as of 2012 babes



it is according to the indiana state courts


of course it was (past tense boo) in 1989 - especially for a young Black boy

and there's a lot of other wrongs in the justice system that have yet to be corrected

but thankfully this one was.

and he's going free!

ill be sendin ur invite to the release party shortly

Project started: 2014
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Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated to be only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

oph.

Quote from: MÃE (MUVA) on October 07, 2024, 10:47:23 AM
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 07, 2024, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: MÃE (MUVA) on October 06, 2024, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 06, 2024, 08:47:39 PMthe idea that a 13 year old doesn't understand the consequences of theft and murder is utterly assenine.
not according to the supreme court as of 2012 babes



it is according to the indiana state courts


of course it was (past tense boo) in 1989 - especially for a young Black boy

and there's a lot of other wrongs in the justice system that have yet to be corrected

but thankfully this one was.

and he's going free!



robbed and murdered 2 innocent people, rotted away for most of his life, now being released to STRUGGLE as an ex-con in a society that he will have difficulty adjusting to cuz he's never been a free adult

i can live wit that lolz-a!