Beyonce 's album is DONE and COMING

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L0NZ.

Quote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:17:49 PM
For starters:

Quote"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.
I can comfortably say that Malcolm X knew what he was doing as well. Am I calling him an opportunist? Does clear intent automatically equate to that? According to you, it appears that it does. But then again, I never SPECIFIED what I meant when I stated that "she knew she was doing". You interpreted it in a way that supports YOUR argument.

Still reading.

What did you mean?

Whenever I see you say "she knew what she was doing" it seemed to me like you meant she knew how to cause controversy. To cause all this convasashun.

When Kandi and Todd talk about divorce before a season on RHOA, it's promo for the upcoming season.

So to "tackle" a social issue and use the biggest platform on TV to do it at the start of a new era spells marketing/opportunist to most, not organic, genuine, or out of necessity/passion.


Herb.

QuoteThen what? Leave it up to your stans to theorize and make up MESS to give the message more UMPH?

Here are some of the stans you speak of, who have taken something meaningless and turned it into something edgy:









Another VOID argument. Sorry.


Vonc2002

This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Nyan Cat

March 20, 2016, 08:25:53 PM #228 Last Edit: March 20, 2016, 08:26:01 PM by Curious ʕ?ᴥ?ʔ George
i wond' if rih knew wat she was doin wen she filmed & r'corded work

Herb.

March 20, 2016, 08:26:52 PM #229 Last Edit: March 20, 2016, 08:27:18 PM by Herbie
The more I read your post, it more apparent it becomes that you are biased. I don't think you use 'fas. But I'll continue.

Herb.

March 20, 2016, 08:30:21 PM #230 Last Edit: March 20, 2016, 08:31:16 PM by Herbie
QuoteThe sense in someone saying a message isnt there, and in the same breath downplaying that same nonexistent message lies in what 'disingenuous' refers to.

Still making very little sense. If there is no message, how is it received? That's like the basics of communication. A message, the channel and the recipient. You cannot accept what is not there. View the videos I posted above.

L0NZ.

Quote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:22:56 PM
Furthermore....

QuoteIt would have been more daring for Beyonce's brand for the song to actually say the same thing lyrically and attack ears the same way those berets attacked White America's eyes. It would have been more daring to properly deliver these not so apparent boasts of Black Pride and awareness by including lyrics about them.

You're basically expressing your ideas of what have been "more" daring. Giving a laundry list of shoulda coulda woulda's that could have spiced it up a bit. But the bottom line is that the message was still clear. She had Mayor Guliani practically calling her a racist, FOX News down her throat. So your opinions of what may have been "more" effective are neither here or there.

FoxNews will jump at ANY chance to call ANY Black person a racist or an agitator to race relations.

I feel like your passion about the power and IMPACT of this song is misplaced, that's all. I dont see this movement you speak of.

People were mad and called her disrespectful. Woo. That was the end of it.

It's falling on deaf ears all day every day when it spins on the radio because its a POOR song about bullshit and definitely shoulda, woulda and coulda been spiced up. It shoulda been an anthem. It coulda resonated and marinated more. It woulda been on Hot100.


BAPHOMET.

March 20, 2016, 08:31:06 PM #232 Last Edit: March 20, 2016, 08:31:24 PM by Baphomet.
Quote from: Aalonso on March 20, 2016, 08:24:22 PM
Quote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:17:49 PM
For starters:

Quote"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.
I can comfortably say that Malcolm X knew what he was doing as well. Am I calling him an opportunist? Does clear intent automatically equate to that? According to you, it appears that it does. But then again, I never SPECIFIED what I meant when I stated that "she knew she was doing". You interpreted it in a way that supports YOUR argument.

Still reading.

What did you mean?

Whenever I see you say "she knew what she was doing" it seemed to me like you meant she knew how to cause controversy. To cause all this convasashun.

When Kandi and Todd talk about divorce before a season on RHOA, it's promo for the upcoming season.

So to "tackle" a social issue and use the biggest platform on TV to do it at the start of a new era spells marketing/opportunist to most, not organic, genuine, or out of necessity/passion.

1. wtf

2. That was kinda the point. Put it on the biggest platform for all to see.  :uhh:

3. Its a new song for the new era. But an opportunistic individual would've tried to milk it for everything that it could get from it in this day & age.

Like... money from VEVO views (not on there), Streaming services money, and on itunes.  :rudone:


BAPHOMET.

Quote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:26:52 PM
The more I read your post, it more apparent it becomes that you are biased. I don't think you use 'fas. But I'll continue.

!!!

The post honestly made no sense.
This rambling and pulling.

I've read it about 3 times  :diddraispoot: and all I can say is what the fuck is he talking about?


JRocka

March 20, 2016, 08:33:04 PM #234 Last Edit: March 20, 2016, 08:33:34 PM by LiBra
Yay I'm excited....😊

AIDS!

Quote from: Baphomet. on March 20, 2016, 08:32:48 PM
Quote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:26:52 PM
The more I read your post, it more apparent it becomes that you are biased. I don't think you use 'fas. But I'll continue.

!!!

The post honestly made no sense.
This rambling and pulling.

I've read it about 3 times  :diddraispoot: and all I can say is what the fuck is he talking about?
gor

Herb.

Quotethe fascniation with this SONG, puzzles me.
Then just say that, instead of trying to downplay its impact. Or ignoring the fact that others received the message. Others, as in, people who are not stans of Beyonce. lol

AIDS!


L0NZ.

Quote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:30:21 PM
QuoteThe sense in someone saying a message isnt there, and in the same breath downplaying that same nonexistent message lies in what 'disingenuous' refers to.

Still making very little sense. If there is no message, how is it received? That's like the basics of communication. A message, the channel and the recipient. You cannot accept what is not there. View the videos I posted above.

The reception of this 'message' is not what's in question.

Oh, we all know what was received through this song.

Fuck me good and take me to Red Lobster.

No one questioned that.

The intent behind the attempt at being a political channel, is what I mentioned.


BAPHOMET.

March 20, 2016, 08:35:58 PM #239 Last Edit: March 20, 2016, 08:37:17 PM by Baphomet.
Im sorr' i've just never heard of a opportunistic Artist that would prefer Woo they talking about me on the news  :feelinmyself:(the common person would probably love this or a Z-List Celeb)

over raking in Money. Its not like the video was cheap to make or anything that went into it.