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[Vonc2002]

The fact this is even being discussed..

IF WE SAY, the actual logical gays of the board, that we ARE offended...then we HAVE RIGHT and REASON to be OFFENDED.

And it's so fucking funny that there's a chunk of girls always ready to pick up a sword and raise to a whities throat anytime they say something even remotely racist but low and behold, we get angry and we're 'overreacting'

We're 'too sensitive'.

The point IS, the fact that Iman can sit up here and make threads on whether being gay is a CHOICE or not, you girls taking it up for DEBATE.
It just proves none of you know NOTHING about sexuality and what a 'choice is.

There was CHOICE when i decided to get up and have WAFFLES this morning.
There was CHOICE when I said OH HEY!..I'm going to have water instead of Orange Juice with it.
There was CHOICE when Robert said hey you know what? I'ma sleep with this lil ole fucking girl anyway.

The problem is there's no gay here it seems that's gonna tell ya'll the truth and what ya'll should do with these subjects, shut the fuck up.
It's offensive because if there was a CHOICE..we'd all be on our way to the alter right now with a woman ready to spread our seed across the planet like 'real men' should.

If logic plays the part everyone says it does in THIS reality, who'd choose to be gay under circumstances that we have had for the past thousands of years, boys?
Don't even bother to attempt to answer because it brings me to my point, OH!..you don't know shit.


Young, I understand you love and you love passionately but baby...to tell you the truth, watch out for who you loving.
These people who 'just innocently disagree' with your 'lifestyle'.
Probably don't give much of a DAMN about you.
That goes for dummies like Malc' too even though you could probably break both your ankles, get hit by a bus and get swallowed by the ground beneath you.


The same people who wanna sit and educate others on 'racism' but ask me if what I am is a choice because 'they just don't fucking know whats the deal!"
Away with the wind with that, you know, ya'll CHOOSE to live in the ignorance you were born in and run out and parade it upon us when life calls your true colors to the stage.
A choice!

Iman, my choice in who I'd love both sexually and emotionally was just as much as your choice as being the nigger that you are.
Or having the color eyes that 'god' plopped into your eye sockets.
If you 'believe' that it's a choice you might as well sit down at a table and write Santa and his little dwarf elves a letter on what you'd like come December 25th.

td;lr
Fuck every last one of you who even entertains talk of a 'choice'.

Pons this whole thing has me in tears

[Nyan Cat]

And ignore this if you fucking want to, Malc'.

Everything you conjure up and apply to that reply box is mostly illogical.
Humans have urges and those urges are gonna kinda be fulfilled.
Gay or straight, we are not that fucking far from 'rabid dogs'.
We are still animals and children of the Earth.

She said she disagrees with the sexual activity of two people of the same sex but she was running around getting dick down, letting some nigga nut in her and had a baby out of wed lock.
Temptation, human nature, human urges.
The only thing that 'boxes' these things is the religions that tell you what's right and what's wrong.
The choice we have is WHAT person of the sex we're attracted to, are we gonna sleep and mate with.

A gay person with no knowledge of religion or care in the world about whats the societal standard of what a man or woman should be is going to have SEX with the gender their attracted to.
There is no CHOICE anywhere is the equation of sexual attraction and feeling.

Sex is the ultimate pleasure a human can experience and combined with attraction, woop poopity POOP, you're gonna fuck what you're attracted to.
Yeah you're gonna choose who you fuck, of fucking course.
And it'll be a choice BASED off of what you're attracted to and for faggots that's MEN.

Idiot.

Sex is not the ultimate pleasure of human existence. I disagree.

Physically, yes.
Which is what I REFERRED to.

[LOONA.]

. I am one of the people who don?t really agree with that lifestyle.

A quick reminder. Let us stay ON TOPIC niggers.


She does not agree with the lifestyle. Meaning she does not agree with acting on your homosexual feelings. And acting on it, is your choice. And you can be held responsible for your actions and your choices.

Having sex is a lifestyle now? I guess evolution was just an accident then. It's human nature to seek out romance and relationships.

I've never heard a person say they were okay with someone being homosexual but not "homosexual sex"   

All Christians pretty much say exactly this. Don't hate the sinner, hate the sin. Never will you hear a preacher say he hates gay people, he just wants to them to change their behavior. As wicked as it sounds.

I've heard plenty of preachers and religious leaders in general say that. Pastors aren't going into explicit detail about the act of homosexuality, just homosexuality itself and how it's a "disease" and "mental illness"

Naw hun 

[Nyan Cat]

Ya'see...wow guess we are ALL academically lacking now! haha

[SouravMay]

So are we gonna give pedophiles a pass, because they are born this way?

They are still to be held accountable for their actions, because even though the attraction might be involuntarily, we are equipped with a brain and will force and can act by sense and mind are not instinct driven dogs. If a man, gay or not, has gay sex, even though he is convinced gay sex is sinful, he is to be held accountable for his actions.

I'm sorry bby sis.... I was gonna let it go

but....

I'm still not gonna go into detail, but when you make these arguments you have to understand the meanings of words and really put things together.

Consensual - agreed to by the people involved : done with the consent of the people involved
Orientation - a person's feelings, interests, and beliefs; a main interest, quality, or goal.
Molestation - to harm (someone) through sexual contact : to touch (someone) in a sexual and improper way
Rape - to seize and take away by force
Pedophilia - sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object
Natural - based on an inherent sense of right and wrong; having an essential relation with someone or something

NOW it's important for you to notice the "main interest" part in the definition of orientation sis. Because that will come into play later, it actually supports the belief of widespread bisexuality, which I think is the direction you try to go when you say "we choose who we fck!", because it gives more freedom to human actions and caters to our sense of decision making.

but let's save that for later...

Easiest ones first:
Molestation and Rape are harmful to others. Every species on earth works to "uplift"/"survive". And that's a natural state of things, being that you have the essential relationship to that group, so clearly if you have members of the species who are seeking to HARM their own species, that's a danger and it goes against the natural order.

Now, keep following, let's finally address Pedophilia. Children are not able to consent, and it isn't until AFTER puberty that most humans even start to really explore sexually. So with picking children up off of a playground for a SEXUAL urge, there's going to have to be some type of "force" OR mental coercion there. Which is still "taking advantage" (rape). The actions of course, we don't know how many ppl think about sexing children, we could never know.

But it goes against the natural order of things. And the difference with homosexual behavior is that it is consensual, there's not "force" or "coercion" involved. And in fact, being that not all adult humans can reproduce anyway, whether by defect or by choice, it's not detrimental to the species as a whole.

Anyways... I could be wrong LOLZ, it's your choice to view it how you please. I won't be the one to call you wrong. But you sleep with men. Don't get brainwashed into hating yourself or thinking what you do is a deviant behavior. You're a sharp young man. Love you.

bent your post makes no sense, clearly you have not been following the debate. No where did I state I condemn homosexuality and condone pedophilia. I said in a Christian person's mind both are equally wrong, and therefore as they are both equally voluntarily performed acts up for judgement by consequent Christians.

Drais was trying to contend that when something is done due to innate urges it is to be deemed acceptable or tolerable by Christians. When really that is irrelevant.

[tigernathan]

The only reason some of you think being gay is beyond your control is cause you ain't proud of it

[SouravMay]

. I am one of the people who don?t really agree with that lifestyle.

A quick reminder. Let us stay ON TOPIC niggers.


She does not agree with the lifestyle. Meaning she does not agree with acting on your homosexual feelings. And acting on it, is your choice. And you can be held responsible for your actions and your choices.

Having sex is a lifestyle now? I guess evolution was just an accident then. It's human nature to seek out romance and relationships.

I've never heard a person say they were okay with someone being homosexual but not "homosexual sex"   

All Christians pretty much say exactly this. Don't hate the sinner, hate the sin. Never will you hear a preacher say he hates gay people, he just wants to them to change their behavior. As wicked as it sounds.

I've heard plenty of preachers and religious leaders in general say that. Pastors aren't going into explicit detail about the act of homosexuality, just homosexuality itself and how it's a "disease" and "mental illness"

Naw hun 

Homosexuality might be a disease to them just like cancer, but they don't hate the patients or victims, they love and embrace them and wish for healing...

[SouravMay]

Christian logic

Religion is a mess.

It's been used to enslave people, brainwash the weak, and destroy nations for how many centuries now?

Yeah I'm not here for her logic tbh.

I don't disagree with this. But she is consequent at least.

[LOONA.]

. I am one of the people who don?t really agree with that lifestyle.

A quick reminder. Let us stay ON TOPIC niggers.


She does not agree with the lifestyle. Meaning she does not agree with acting on your homosexual feelings. And acting on it, is your choice. And you can be held responsible for your actions and your choices.

Having sex is a lifestyle now? I guess evolution was just an accident then. It's human nature to seek out romance and relationships.

I've never heard a person say they were okay with someone being homosexual but not "homosexual sex"   

All Christians pretty much say exactly this. Don't hate the sinner, hate the sin. Never will you hear a preacher say he hates gay people, he just wants to them to change their behavior. As wicked as it sounds.

I've heard plenty of preachers and religious leaders in general say that. Pastors aren't going into explicit detail about the act of homosexuality, just homosexuality itself and how it's a "disease" and "mental illness"

Naw hun 

Homosexuality might be a disease to them just like cancer, but they don't hate the patients or victims, they love and embrace them and wish for healing...

You can't "heal" a sexual orientation. Other sins don't define who you are as a person and they aren't apart of you. Sexual orientation is stuck with you.

I know you're trying to speak in the mind of a Christian but you sound foolish. Are homosexuals not suppose to enjoy romance and relationships just as every other human being?   

[BAPHOMET.]

The only reason some of you think being gay is beyond your control is cause you ain't proud of it

b

I am and my Mom and dad didnt skip a beat when they found out. Which made me even more proud.

Still see it as not a choice.

[Zankou.]

The only reason some of you think being gay is beyond your control is cause you ain't proud of it

b

I am and my Mom and dad didnt skip a beat when they found out. Which made me even more proud.

Still see it as not a choice.

[SouravMay]

Is a gay for pay straight man who has gay sex more of a sinner than gay man who has gay sex?

It would interest me how you guys view this.

[Kurama]

v

[Real]

Is a gay for pay straight man who has gay sex more of a sinner than gay man who has gay sex?

It would interest me how you guys view this.

I think it's just the same as fornication. No more or less a sin

[Nyan Cat]

And ignore this if you fucking want to, Malc'.

Everything you conjure up and apply to that reply box is mostly illogical.
Humans have urges and those urges are gonna kinda be fulfilled.
Gay or straight, we are not that fucking far from 'rabid dogs'.
We are still animals and children of the Earth.

She said she disagrees with the sexual activity of two people of the same sex but she was running around getting dick down, letting some nigga nut in her and had a baby out of wed lock.
Temptation, human nature, human urges.
The only thing that 'boxes' these things is the religions that tell you what's right and what's wrong.
The choice we have is WHAT person of the sex we're attracted to, are we gonna sleep and mate with.

A gay person with no knowledge of religion or care in the world about whats the societal standard of what a man or woman should be is going to have SEX with the gender their attracted to.
There is no CHOICE anywhere is the equation of sexual attraction and feeling.

Sex is the ultimate pleasure a human can experience and combined with attraction, woop poopity POOP, you're gonna fuck what you're attracted to.
Yeah you're gonna choose who you fuck, of fucking course.
And it'll be a choice BASED off of what you're attracted to and for faggots that's MEN.

Idiot.

Sddddfffff

Oh no someone done pissed twins off


Well let me just say this. This sounds like two different arguments going on n here right now.

There's a difference; a clear difference between someone who is homosexual and acts out on his cravings for sexual pleasure

And someone who is homosexual and not living the lifestyle. It seems like Laporsha doesn't have an issue with the later. It's the act of that the sin is in.

And Laporsha was married and had a child; but none the less if the baby was conceived out of wedlock I'm sure she would acknowledge that as a sin if asked.

She is a CHRISTIAN. And she doesn't expect everyone to be or to follow those rules but she had her religion. The great part about her is that even though someone may live a life or be different than what she practices or what her bible teaches; she will love you no less and befriend you anyway.

I think that's the perfect kind of Christian TBH.

She isn't damning anyone to hell or shunning them like she's better than.
We all have our shortcomings but you can eat at my table and break bread kinda mentality. I actually respect that about her even MORE TBH.

The SEX part you're referring to is agree with to an extent.
Because you can have the urge to do something and not act on it.

As a Christian Laporsha believes if it's sinful then don't act on it.
If you aren't a Christian then obviously you won't abide by those rules but the beautiful thing about life is that we all are different and are all learning about unconditional love in different ways. And Laporsha is exuding that the only way she knows how. By being a Christian. You may not agree with everything she does and she may not agree with everything you do . But Laporsha will love you no less. And ANY person striving to release karmic ties; enter heaven or whatever you believe should strive to be like THAT.

After all we are all children of the Earth in the flesh
And children of the infinite in the spiritual realm

We're all one regardless 

I like you, Young.
And it's nice to see gay people who don't lose their 'faith' and what not nor turning to loathe most of humanity but even as a Christian, she's wrong.

She believes a certain way and that's fine but I will never kneel before the thought of a god who created me only to deprive me of what he gave to his other children. Something that just make no sense to me.

And she doesn't have to damn me to hell to let me know that her thoughts and beliefs ARE on the wrong side of history, I don't hate her but I'll not feature her.
I disagree with the church 100% because it's all foolishness and there's no one around to really point out that if some churches are preaching from the old testament and then some preaching from the new...SOME teaching on how to live your LIFE from the OLD..literally...that something isn't right. Nothing about it is in sync to me.

My problem isn't just with her is what I'll say.