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[SouravMay]

I guess I can indulge in what I USED to think. But it's not about fem and masc but straight and gay. I associated male straightness with strength, dominance and leadership. I used to feel weird for dominating and leading other guys, as if I'm not a real gay or something. Even questioning myself wether I would socially dominate straight males just to feel less gay, but it's just my nature to want to take the lead and take charge. And being gay and being a boss/aggressive does not x eachother out.

I just thought being gay u are socially weaker and less valuable and your word counts less in a debate. Granted I think if all ppl I converse(d) with knew I was in fact gay, I'd get less respect maybe.

[Kurama]

Whats more interesting to me is how for many cis gay men
acknowledging masc and fem is frowned upon

but among many trans people its very important to aline yourself
with one or the other to be perceived as you'd like
even if it's not said blatantly

Yeah being passable as a trans person is a WHOLE nother debacle when you factor in perceptions of masc & femininity. U should make a thread bavi! 

[Kurama]

I miss these little psych threads tho Brie

fck you!

[SouravMay]

I was actually shocked to find out as a teenager you can actually be gay and still be dumb and ignorant as shit. Always thought gays were an intellectually elevated species nnn

[Kurama]

I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.

My grandmother went with me to my highschool luncheon and she said something that made me 
The #1 person in our class was a guy and he happened to be gay.  He really had an impressive list of accomplishments. Like he was on jeopardy, already had completed some college, etc. He's actually a writer for Empire now but ANYWAY she leant in like "is he gay?" I was like yea, granny. "I knew it, aint no regular boy that smart."
I was like bitch
How insulting on so many levels. I know how old folks be tho, so i just left it alone

ghhgh

I think its a socioeconimic thing to. No disrespect at all but did your grandma grow up in an affluent neighborhood? My family and I didn't and if you base masculinity on the men around you and what they're doing then well...I can see it.

[Vonc2002]

I guess I can indulge in what I USED to think. But it's not about fem and masc but straight and gay. I associated male straightness with strength, dominance and leadership. I used to feel weird for dominating and leading other guys, as if I'm not a real gay or something. Even questioning myself wether I would socially dominate straight males just to feel less gay, but it's just my nature to want to take the lead and take charge. And being gay and being a boss/aggressive does not x eachother out.

I just thought being gay u are socially weaker and less valuable and your word counts less in a debate. Granted I think if all ppl I converse(d) with knew I was in fact gay, I'd get less respect maybe.

Wow, u sounded fckd up. Its so funny u paint this picture of yourself as STRONG & DOMINATING because that's not the way u come off at all

[BranLover]

I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.

My grandmother went with me to my highschool luncheon and she said something that made me 
The #1 person in our class was a guy and he happened to be gay.  He really had an impressive list of accomplishments. Like he was on jeopardy, already had completed some college, etc. He's actually a writer for Empire now but ANYWAY she leant in like "is he gay?" I was like yea, granny. "I knew it, aint no regular boy that smart."
I was like bitch
How insulting on so many levels. I know how old folks be tho, so i just left it alone

fgdvvdd

Sadly, a lot of young people think this way too. Especially if you're not an ex-con/criminal or an athlete. 

[MelMel]

I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.

wow at me being all three 

Wow, are you MASCULINE?

I am everything 

[Kurama]

I was actually shocked to find out as a teenager you can actually be gay and still be dumb and ignorant as shit. Always thought gays were an intellectually elevated species nnn

I appreciate you going with the flow now Malc 

[MelMel]

I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.

wow at me being all three 

n

fuck u and the Atlanta Pigeons

[D.I.E.G.O.]

f the question is not about dating or friendships, it's about DEFINING what those two words mean.

But he literally asked about dating and friendships

n yeah just saw that.

[Buy The Stars✨]

In looking for a partner I don't like  masc/muscle  guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys

I can be friends with almost anyone though

So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.

Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay. 

[SouravMay]

I guess I can indulge in what I USED to think. But it's not about fem and masc but straight and gay. I associated male straightness with strength, dominance and leadership. I used to feel weird for dominating and leading other guys, as if I'm not a real gay or something. Even questioning myself wether I would socially dominate straight males just to feel less gay, but it's just my nature to want to take the lead and take charge. And being gay and being a boss/aggressive does not x eachother out.

I just thought being gay u are socially weaker and less valuable and your word counts less in a debate. Granted I think if all ppl I converse(d) with knew I was in fact gay, I'd get less respect maybe.

Wow, u sounded fckd up. Its so funny u paint this picture of yourself as STRONG & DOMINATING because that's not the way u come off at all

Don't think I'm trying to paint me as such on here. I feel like I enjoy taking cues from the innovative gorls like Afro and garlic and just sit back and go with their trends. I enjoy not having to be this leading, mature figure here. I get to be a kid. There is a balance.

[Vonc2002]

I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.

My grandmother went with me to my highschool luncheon and she said something that made me 
The #1 person in our class was a guy and he happened to be gay.  He really had an impressive list of accomplishments. Like he was on jeopardy, already had completed some college, etc. He's actually a writer for Empire now but ANYWAY she leant in like "is he gay?" I was like yea, granny. "I knew it, aint no regular boy that smart."
I was like bitch
How insulting on so many levels. I know how old folks be tho, so i just left it alone

ghhgh

I think its a socioeconimic thing to. No disrespect at all but did your grandma grow up in an affluent neighborhood? My family and I didn't and if you base masculinity on the men around you and what they're doing then well...I can see it.

I can agree with what ur saying. I don't know how she grew up but as an adult i think my grandparents lived pretty well. Not like wealthy or well off but pretty decent. I think tha mentality is also something that has evolved overtime. I just chalked it up as a generationsl thing

[Real]

I was actually shocked to find out as a teenager you can actually be gay and still be dumb and ignorant as shit. Always thought gays were an intellectually elevated species nnn

What tha world