Madonna calls Whitney "horribly mediocre" in old letter

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Vonc2002

Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Dead at 7x platinum not being anything. It meant a damn LOT back then cause NOBODY will ever do again in this day and age lol

In 1989 this was an impossible feat? Paula Abdul got 7 x plat albums too.

Y'all can continue to pretend like he did thriller or the bodyguard numbers or some shit.

Nobody's saying that but you.

No matter how you slice it, smack it, flip it or rub it the fuck down, he was still a superstar then!  :dead:

Lol at 1 hit album making you a superstar.

He was a star in fucking New Edition before he even went solo. Just gone on somewhere dawg :dead:
And if we're gonna get technical he has 2 hit albums  :dead:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





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Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:13 PM
he was not on the same level as Whitney.

Which is where this started. He was not a catch for someone on her level of global superstardom.
Hear 'em swarmin', right? (Zz) 🐝 🐝  is known to bite (Zz, zz)
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Scott.

Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:13 PM
he was not on the same level as Whitney.

Which is where this started. He was not a catch for someone on her level of global superstardom.

But you act like this man was doing August Alsina numbers back then. The man was a multi-platinum superstar during that time. But OH-KAY!

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Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Dead at 7x platinum not being anything. It meant a damn LOT back then cause NOBODY will ever do again in this day and age lol

In 1989 this was an impossible feat? Paula Abdul got 7 x plat albums too.

Y'all can continue to pretend like he did thriller or the bodyguard numbers or some shit.

Nobody's saying that but you.

No matter how you slice it, smack it, flip it or rub it the fuck down, he was still a superstar then!  :dead:

Lol at 1 hit album making you a superstar.

He was a star in fucking New Edition before he even went solo. Just gone on somewhere dawg :dead:

That chitlin mess don't move me.
But pretend he's Michael and that was the Jackson 5 all you want. Since you clearly have a different understand of what a global superstar is.
Hear 'em swarmin', right? (Zz) 🐝 🐝  is known to bite (Zz, zz)
——————///——————-
https://justiceforbreonna.org/

Vonc2002

Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:13 PM
he was not on the same level as Whitney.

Which is where this started.
Actually where this started was u saying he was never popping, which is a flat out lie. And then when that lie was debunked you wanted to put a time frame on his success.  Ur in here clawing and clamoring and its ridiculous :kii:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Scott.

Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Dead at 7x platinum not being anything. It meant a damn LOT back then cause NOBODY will ever do again in this day and age lol

In 1989 this was an impossible feat? Paula Abdul got 7 x plat albums too.

Y'all can continue to pretend like he did thriller or the bodyguard numbers or some shit.

Nobody's saying that but you.

No matter how you slice it, smack it, flip it or rub it the fuck down, he was still a superstar then!  :dead:

Lol at 1 hit album making you a superstar.

He was a star in fucking New Edition before he even went solo. Just gone on somewhere dawg :dead:

That chitlin mess don't move me.
But pretend he's Michael and that was the Jackson 5 all you want. Since you clearly have a different understand of what a global superstar is.

Chitlin mess?  :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: Just gone on somewhere like I said before.

🦚

Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:53:33 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:13 PM
he was not on the same level as Whitney.

Which is where this started. He was not a catch for someone on her level of global superstardom.

But you act like this man was doing August Alsina numbers back then. The man was a multi-platinum superstar during that time. But OH-KAY!

I didn't say shit about his numbers. Y'all brought up his numbers as if it was supposed to be impressive or put him in line with Whitney's global superstar level. As if a plethora of artists weren't going multi platinum in the 80s.
Hear 'em swarmin', right? (Zz) 🐝 🐝  is known to bite (Zz, zz)
——————///——————-
https://justiceforbreonna.org/

Scott.

Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:56:47 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:53:33 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:13 PM
he was not on the same level as Whitney.

Which is where this started. He was not a catch for someone on her level of global superstardom.

But you act like this man was doing August Alsina numbers back then. The man was a multi-platinum superstar during that time. But OH-KAY!

I didn't say shit about his numbers. Y'all brought up his numbers as if it was supposed to be impressive or put him in line with Whitney's global superstar level. As if a plethora of artists weren't going multi platinum in the 80s.

But you also said he was NEVER popping when he was though.

ssw4919

Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Dead at 7x platinum not being anything. It meant a damn LOT back then cause NOBODY will ever do again in this day and age lol

In 1989 this was an impossible feat? Paula Abdul got 7 x plat albums too.

Y'all can continue to pretend like he did thriller or the bodyguard numbers or some shit.


Yeah, because the only male selling what Whitney sold over her whole catalog at the time is Michael.  Not Prince, not Bobby, not anyone I can think of.  Guns N' Roses?  So you must be advocating Whitney marry Michael.

Not that I would have minded that, but your standard makes prospects a lil slim. 

sawayama

Quote from: ANIMMAI on July 14, 2017, 03:24:00 PM
I remember reading somewhere that Whitney wanted to experiment musically, but Clive pretty much shut it down. He wanted a marketable pop diva who could appeal to all demographics.

yeah, she said something about wanting to write more and he was like your talent is your voice or some mess.

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Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:55:43 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Dead at 7x platinum not being anything. It meant a damn LOT back then cause NOBODY will ever do again in this day and age lol

In 1989 this was an impossible feat? Paula Abdul got 7 x plat albums too.

Y'all can continue to pretend like he did thriller or the bodyguard numbers or some shit.

Nobody's saying that but you.

No matter how you slice it, smack it, flip it or rub it the fuck down, he was still a superstar then!  :dead:

Lol at 1 hit album making you a superstar.

He was a star in fucking New Edition before he even went solo. Just gone on somewhere dawg :dead:

That chitlin mess don't move me.
But pretend he's Michael and that was the Jackson 5 all you want. Since you clearly have a different understand of what a global superstar is.

Chitlin mess?  :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: Just gone on somewhere like I said before.

That's right chitlin mess.
To even have to discus why he was way below her level let's me know we're dealing with a chitlin circuit success measuring stick in here.
Hear 'em swarmin', right? (Zz) 🐝 🐝  is known to bite (Zz, zz)
——————///——————-
https://justiceforbreonna.org/

Vonc2002

Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:55:43 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Dead at 7x platinum not being anything. It meant a damn LOT back then cause NOBODY will ever do again in this day and age lol

In 1989 this was an impossible feat? Paula Abdul got 7 x plat albums too.

Y'all can continue to pretend like he did thriller or the bodyguard numbers or some shit.

Nobody's saying that but you.

No matter how you slice it, smack it, flip it or rub it the fuck down, he was still a superstar then!  :dead:

Lol at 1 hit album making you a superstar.

He was a star in fucking New Edition before he even went solo. Just gone on somewhere dawg :dead:

That chitlin mess don't move me.
But pretend he's Michael and that was the Jackson 5 all you want. Since you clearly have a different understand of what a global superstar is.

Chitlin mess?  :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: Just gone on somewhere like I said before.
So foolish  :kii:
and Whitney wasnt that person anyway.  She was following bebe and cece around singing background for them in concerts and performances. A group that didn't sell anywhere near what she did (or even bobby for that matter :dead: )
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Scott.

Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 03:58:31 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:55:43 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: Scott. on July 14, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Dead at 7x platinum not being anything. It meant a damn LOT back then cause NOBODY will ever do again in this day and age lol

In 1989 this was an impossible feat? Paula Abdul got 7 x plat albums too.

Y'all can continue to pretend like he did thriller or the bodyguard numbers or some shit.

Nobody's saying that but you.

No matter how you slice it, smack it, flip it or rub it the fuck down, he was still a superstar then!  :dead:

Lol at 1 hit album making you a superstar.

He was a star in fucking New Edition before he even went solo. Just gone on somewhere dawg :dead:

That chitlin mess don't move me.
But pretend he's Michael and that was the Jackson 5 all you want. Since you clearly have a different understand of what a global superstar is.

Chitlin mess?  :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: Just gone on somewhere like I said before.
So foolish  :kii:
and Whitney wasnt that person anyway.  She was following bebe and cece around singing background for them in concerts and performances. A group that didn't sell anywhere near what she did (or even bobby for that matter :dead: )

:kii: I can't. Like he didn't crossover at all during that "Don't Be Cruel" era  :kii:

sawayama

Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on July 14, 2017, 03:27:53 PM
Clive also tried to do it with  Phyllis Hyman as well.  :dead:
Yea, a COUPLE artists. I watched Patricia Rushen's unsung
(This girl )


and she had the same issue with him.  Clive was sumn like a tyrannical dictator


"Straight From the Heart" >>> That whole album slays

"Forget Me Nots" is so legendary

Vonc2002

Quote from: JaySeeJay on July 14, 2017, 04:00:05 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 14, 2017, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on July 14, 2017, 03:27:53 PM
Clive also tried to do it with  Phyllis Hyman as well.  :dead:
Yea, a COUPLE artists. I watched Patricia Rushen's unsung
(This girl )


and she had the same issue with him.  Clive was sumn like a tyrannical dictator


"Straight From the Heart" >>> That whole album slays

"Forget Me Nots" is so legendary
It is!
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw