The Making and Unmaking of Iggy Azalea

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XXX.

Quote from: end north korea on September 22, 2017, 03:16:04 AM
I posted the proof - a study conducted just three years ago regarding hip hop in general. But if you didn't know White people account, in large, for the success of these rap artists who reach the top of POP charts, I'm sorry that morsel of common knowledge managed to evade you.

STUDY!

Show me a study showing that "Bodak Yellow" is being streamed by mostly white people on TIDAL, YouTube & Apple Music.

I'll wait.

XXX.

I just want to talk FACTS. 

This reach is pretty desperate.  It gets worse and worse as Monday approaches.

Lane Bryant Jumpsuit

RIG , KETTLEC & MEL

all think shes a threat to nicki so they think shes queen with a presence

but the public dropped her like a whores panties
#whiterapperphase



Lewie D Im Caramel Bitches Ion Wanna hear Im Actin
Different

XXX.

Quote from: end north korea on September 22, 2017, 03:19:37 AM
Quote from: XXX. on September 22, 2017, 03:18:08 AM
I just want to talk FACTS. 


And I quoted some directly from a study.

What else is up?

Is this study involving streaming?

Link?

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Quote from: XXX. on September 22, 2017, 03:16:34 AM
Boy, you are scrambling and HARD.  The only scramble you need to be concerned with is that omelette I'm preparing you on Monday.

So, now Cardi is going #1, because of white people?

Proof?

If not, save me the speech trying to discredit her success.

Let's talk FACTS.

you dont chart on billboard at least without white ppul support
thats facts



Lewie D Im Caramel Bitches Ion Wanna hear Im Actin
Different

XXX.

Quote from: TheNextLew on September 22, 2017, 03:23:27 AM
Quote from: XXX. on September 22, 2017, 03:16:34 AM
Boy, you are scrambling and HARD.  The only scramble you need to be concerned with is that omelette I'm preparing you on Monday.

So, now Cardi is going #1, because of white people?

Proof?

If not, save me the speech trying to discredit her success.

Let's talk FACTS.

you dont chart on billboard at least without white ppul support
thats facts

I mean, DUH.

But to sit here and say that "Bodak" is only going #1, because of white people is not only baseless, it's not true.  Black people in the industry and at radio have been going hard for Cardi over the last 2 weeks.  And the song has been sitting Top 5 on Spotify WITHOUT Pop radio. 

Ya'll still stuck in 2008 when Z100 and Top 40 determined what charted. 

Now, every black person who can listen on YouTube, Apple Music, Spotify or TIDAL are now in control of the charts.  Which is why black music has been dominating.  Leaving a majority of the Payola Pop white girls in the dust.

Again, let's talk facts.

XXX.

And again, Afro, if you ain't providing that link to this prestigious "STUDY" on the breakdown of who is streaming Cardi's music, save it.

The girl is going #1, and she didn't have to sell out to do it.

Your attempt at aligning her with Iggy, and trying to prove black people also were hype about her, is just simply not true.  And again, a REACH.

You're out of moves, sis.

The end.

XXX.


XXX.

I'm crying at how this topic went from trying to prove Cardi is just "hype" like Iggy and trying to draw that comparison, to trying to prove Cardi has white fans.

Who said she didn't?

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Ya'll are seriously so pressed and hurt that this girl is SHITTING on Nicki's Mother Goose raps.   :kii:

It honestly warms my heart.

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cardis hype is real though shes been hustling and getting her name out there untill something popped off

iggy was a 'machine" pump up and drop
like gaga



Lewie D Im Caramel Bitches Ion Wanna hear Im Actin
Different

XXX.

Quote from: TheNextLew on September 22, 2017, 03:37:06 AM
cardis hype is real though shes been hustling and getting her name out there untill something popped off

iggy was a 'machine" pump up and drop
like gaga

Period.

And just because she was backed by a black rapper, it doesn't mean she had Hip Hop's approval.




XXX.

Quote from: end north korea on September 22, 2017, 03:41:26 AM
Quote from: XXX. on September 22, 2017, 03:32:45 AM
No link.  No care.


Already posted a link citing the source - MediaMark.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/11/06/really-listening/

Wall Street Journal direct link to article and research:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB111521814339424546

Also, here's a direct link to an excerpt from a book which quotes the Wall Street Journal's findings which were also linked to MediaMark.

https://books.google.com/books?id=r6EnBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=wall+street+journal+hip+hop+mediamark&source=bl&ots=yKQz927Xbp&sig=LJm4-5idtLhoSPkEMH2oJuSsvP4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi39IzhpLjWAhXHPCYKHZfGCIcQ6AEIQTAD#v=onepage&q=mediamark&f=false

Enjoy, luv.

So let's see....

Your first link is from a study done in 2004 before digital and streaming platforms like iTunes, Spotify & Apple Music.

QuoteIn 2004 Mediamark Research Inc. estimated that closer to 60 percent of rap music consumers were white. While that?s still substantial, it?s much lower than the rumored 80 percent that has been floating around for over twenty years.

Of the approximately 64 million Americans between age 15 and 30, about 73 percent of them are white. So if 60 percent of rap consumers were white in 2004, they represented a significantly lower number than their share of the population?meaning the Blacks and Hispanics in remaining 40 percent were significantly higher than their share of the overall U.S. population.

In others words, whites were underrepresented among rap consumers and Blacks and Hispanics were over-represented.

Your 2nd link is from 2005.  Also well BEFORE digital & streaming.

So, not only was this USELESS.... it has absolutely nothing to do with the current climate and structure of the music industry in 2017.

Try again.

XXX.

I love when the girls hop on that soapbox scrambling for articles and reports from almost 15 years ago.

We're not talking about physical album sales, boo.

#FactsOnly

Next caller!

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Quote from: end north korea on September 22, 2017, 03:14:21 AM
The point is: Don't disregard White people as a nonfactor when it's convenient - when if it weren't for them joining in on the fun, she'd be slinging her single around the nearest rib shack alongside Remy Ma.

It matters who they use and who they don't - at least when it comes to getting artists to meet the definiton of success that YOU gorls have defined with #1's and such.

Hope that's crystal clear.
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You?re such a bitch  :kii:


But nah, I get what ur saying. IM just saying that white people will pump out the coins and all for rap more than anyone, yes, but Cardis street cred and love from the black community and people of color, far exceeds anything Iggy has ever experienced. And black publications certainly never fixed their lips to crown iggy queen of anything

BET didnt even kiss Iggys ass when she got a number 1 hit :dead: but they gave it to Remy for a moderate one. Iggy was kinda shunned and shut out


XXX.

September 22, 2017, 03:50:33 AM #44 Last Edit: September 22, 2017, 03:50:46 AM by XXX.
Quote from: end north korea on September 22, 2017, 03:47:41 AM
We're talking about hip hop's audience and consumers.

Just because format of support changed doesn't mean the audience does. Did white people suddenly become R&B lovers simply because it shifted to Itunes? Come from a different angle - that one is pretty weak.

Nigga, that article is strictly talking about CONSUMERS.

You are not going to find a study showing that hip hop's audience is predominately white.  Just because white people were physically purchasing the albums more, has more to do with more white people having jobs and the income to do so. 

But again, these trivial studies you posted have ZERO to do with what we are talking about.

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