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RAY7

November 25, 2015, 01:39:58 AM #135 Last Edit: November 25, 2015, 01:40:50 AM by ........
Quote from: tigernathan on November 25, 2015, 01:30:17 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 25, 2015, 01:18:33 AM
no my comprehension is perfectly fine
Yes the genre "stuff" is bull. Pop country listeners can be just as much into vocals as anyone else. Carrie Underwood, Shania Twain, Reba McEntire and Faith Hill are perfect examples

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Not quite. You need to brush up on your music knowledge. Country is about storytelling. It's not vocally focused.

QuoteR Kelly's listeners aren't the same but it has nothing to do with his genre
His listeners are here for his sexual lyrics and production
OR his inspirational music, rarely does anyone say anything about his voice
his vibrato is a fool, his runs are sloppy and his pitch isn't that great
he's like a male Jennifer Hudson tbh just LOUD

What do you mean it has nothing to do with the genre :uhh: At the end of the day his vocals are the first thing being noticed when you play his songs. Lyrics are second along with production. R&B listeners like strong vocals.

His vibrato is good. Especially in his prime. He doesn't overdo it like some and his runs aren't sloppy :plzstop: He can sustain and has great vocal control.

J Hud can sing but she lacks control over her voice and doesn't know what a crescendo is. They're nowhere near the same :dead:

Keep reaching tho.
Country listeners pay just as much attention to vocals as any other genre when the artist can sing

R Kelly also lacks control, and doesn't know what a DECRESCENDO is
they love getting LOUDER as the song goes on
which is what a CRESCENDO is

And it doesn't matter what you notice about his music
the vocals are the weakest part

Vonc2002

Young is that you? Not searching Twitter for shaniqua's opinion :dead:
And after years in the business all u were able to come up with  were two quotes :plzstop:
U are looking IDENTICAL to young when he be praising Monica's vocals. This kinda proves what I was saying. More about his music than his voice
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





tigernathan

Quote from: ........ on November 25, 2015, 01:39:58 AM
Country listeners pay just as much attention to vocals as any other genre when the artist can sing

R Kelly also lacks control, and doesn't know what a DECRESCENDO is
they love getting LOUDER as the song goes on
which is what a CRESCENDO is

And it doesn't matter what you notice about his music
the vocals are the weakest part

Not really. I grew up listening to country music and the melody and lyrics are the focus. There are great Country singers though but it's not as vocally driven as R&B is. That's my point.

No he doesn't :uhh: His strength is his control. You need to listen to his music and his live performances before judging him based on a National Anthem performance. And he has never got louder as the song goes on :plzstop: yea, you clearly don't listen to the man's music.

and my point about JHud is that she doesn't crescendo is because she starts a song loud and ends it loud. There's no climax.

That's your opinion and your opinion will never matter about him because you're biased. I'm glad that there are people out there who don't care for him but can give credit where it's due.

tigernathan

Quote from: Vonc2002 on November 25, 2015, 01:45:14 AM
Young is that you? Not searching Twitter for shaniqua's opinion :dead:
And after years in the business all u were able to come up with  were two quotes :plzstop:
U are looking IDENTICAL to young when he be praising Monica's vocals. This kinda proves what I was saying. More about his music than his voice

I mentioned Aretha Franklin and Etta James. Two vocal legends in R&B and Soul.

There are more quotes from plenty of people in the business (including your faves) :dead:

And it doesn't prove shit. You claim that no one praises his vocals so why not WEED through those tweets and see all the praise?

tigernathan

All I know is that no one praises Pawn or Rih's vocals. Especially Pawn lolz. She's a nobody.

RAY7

Quote from: tigernathan on November 25, 2015, 01:48:02 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 25, 2015, 01:39:58 AM
Country listeners pay just as much attention to vocals as any other genre when the artist can sing

R Kelly also lacks control, and doesn't know what a DECRESCENDO is
they love getting LOUDER as the song goes on
which is what a CRESCENDO is

And it doesn't matter what you notice about his music
the vocals are the weakest part

Not really. I grew up listening to country music and the melody and lyrics are the focus. There are great Country singers though but it's not as vocally driven as R&B is. That's my point.

No he doesn't :uhh: His strength is his control. You need to listen to his music and his live performances before judging him based on a National Anthem performance. And he has never got louder as the song goes on :plzstop: yea, you clearly don't listen to the man's music.

and my point about JHud is that she doesn't crescendo is because she starts a song loud and ends it loud. There's no climax.

That's your opinion and your opinion will never matter about him because you're biased. I'm glad that there are people out there who don't care for him but can give credit where it's due.
you're the one that's biased in here
you have attacked multiple artists in here that actually are great vocalists over this man.

I don't care what you grew up on
The point is that there are country listeners who purchase music based on vocals. You cannot speak for all other country fans lol

R Kelly definitely has started songs off soft and continuously got louder
I do listen to him, I just know he sounds a fool, as do many others

Vonc2002

Quote from: tigernathan on November 25, 2015, 01:50:34 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on November 25, 2015, 01:45:14 AM
Young is that you? Not searching Twitter for shaniqua's opinion :dead:
And after years in the business all u were able to come up with  were two quotes :plzstop:
U are looking IDENTICAL to young when he be praising Monica's vocals. This kinda proves what I was saying. More about his music than his voice

I mentioned Aretha Franklin and Etta James. Two vocal legends in R&B and Soul.

There are more quotes from plenty of people in the business (including your faves) :dead:

And it doesn't prove shit. You claim that no one praises his vocals so why not WEED through those tweets and see all the praise?
Well u praise his vocals so CLEARLY there are some tone deaf people that like his voice as there are those that like Monica, Mary, keyshia, etc. the point was there are people whose voices are praised and revered in the industry and his ain't one of em. I'm not reading thru Daquan's and shanell's tweets, foh. U claimed he was so influential and so praised by the young artists where are those mentions of his voice being so groundbreaking? I honestly don't REALLY care cause u like who u fckn like but u ain't gon come in here trying to talk about other singers like R Kelly non singing ass is Stevie wonder or some shit, PLEA
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





RAY7

Stevie is a great example of great vocals AND great songwriting

Vonc2002

Quote from: ........ on November 25, 2015, 01:53:33 AM
Quote from: tigernathan on November 25, 2015, 01:48:02 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 25, 2015, 01:39:58 AM
Country listeners pay just as much attention to vocals as any other genre when the artist can sing

R Kelly also lacks control, and doesn't know what a DECRESCENDO is
they love getting LOUDER as the song goes on
which is what a CRESCENDO is

And it doesn't matter what you notice about his music
the vocals are the weakest part

Not really. I grew up listening to country music and the melody and lyrics are the focus. There are great Country singers though but it's not as vocally driven as R&B is. That's my point.

No he doesn't :uhh: His strength is his control. You need to listen to his music and his live performances before judging him based on a National Anthem performance. And he has never got louder as the song goes on :plzstop: yea, you clearly don't listen to the man's music.

and my point about JHud is that she doesn't crescendo is because she starts a song loud and ends it loud. There's no climax.

That's your opinion and your opinion will never matter about him because you're biased. I'm glad that there are people out there who don't care for him but can give credit where it's due.
you're the one that's biased in here
you have attacked multiple artists in here that actually are great vocalists over this man.
!!!!!!!!!
This is why I'm crying n the fact that she can't see it is HILARIOUS. I'll like an artist but I'm not gon bullshit or be delusional like something ain't real life when CLEARLY :dead:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





tigernathan

Quote from: ........ on November 25, 2015, 01:53:33 AM
you're the one that's biased in here
you have attacked multiple artists in here that actually are great vocalists over this man.

I don't care what you grew up on
The point is that there are country listeners who purchase music based on vocals. You cannot speak for all other country fans lol

R Kelly definitely has started songs off soft and continuously got louder
I do listen to him, I just know he sounds a fool, as do many others

I knew that's what this is all about :kii: sTank isn't great vocally. Sor'! Flush isn't either lmao!

You don't listen to him because he has never continuously got louder. He knows when to sing loud and when to switch his tone depending on the song.

I never said there aren't Country listeners who purchase music based on vocals. The vast majority aren't though. You can carry a tune and still slay in Country. It's all about the melody/harmony and lyrics.

RAY7

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Kelly

If you read the influence part of his wiki.
R Kelly's Lyrics is the FIRST thing that pops up
and has a paragraph, while his vocals has like 2 sentences
On a site that can be edited by fans
:kii:

RAY7

Quote from: tigernathan on November 25, 2015, 02:01:23 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 25, 2015, 01:53:33 AM
you're the one that's biased in here
you have attacked multiple artists in here that actually are great vocalists over this man.

I don't care what you grew up on
The point is that there are country listeners who purchase music based on vocals. You cannot speak for all other country fans lol

R Kelly definitely has started songs off soft and continuously got louder
I do listen to him, I just know he sounds a fool, as do many others

I knew that's what this is all about :kii: sTank isn't great vocally. Sor'! Flush isn't either lmao!

You don't listen to him because he has never continuously got louder. He knows when to sing loud and when to switch his tone depending on the song.

I never said there aren't Country listeners who purchase music based on vocals. The vast majority aren't though. You can carry a tune and still slay in Country. It's all about the melody/harmony and lyrics.
Tank and Usher actually are great singers
that's non debatable tbh

I do listen to R Kelly, especially his older stuff
and the national anthem clip is just one example of his being loud
and just getting louder. He just loves WAILING and you're being biased and delusional.

You cannot say what the vast majority of country listeners purchase much for I'm sure there's mixture of reasons

tigernathan

Quote from: Vonc2002 on November 25, 2015, 01:57:15 AM
Well u praise his vocals so CLEARLY there are some tone deaf people that like his voice as there are those that like Monica, Mary, keyshia, etc. the point was there are people whose voices are praised and revered in the industry and his ain't one of em. I'm not reading thru Daquan's and shanell's tweets, foh. U claimed he was so influential and so praised by the young artists where are those mentions of his voice being so groundbreaking? I honestly don't REALLY care cause u like who u fckn like but u ain't gon come in here trying to talk about other singers like R Kelly non singing ass is Stevie wonder or some shit, PLEA

You praise Rihanna and Pawn's vocals though :dead: but you want to talk about tone deaf? It doesn't get more tone deaf than you tbh.

He's one of them though and Pawn isn't. He is revered and a legend.

Daquan! Shanell! I see plenty of other races praising his voice actually. But you want to act like black people's opinions don't matter when it comes to vocals? FOH :kii:

I was talking to Ray, blue nigger. I mentioned Aretha and Etta and he asked me to post the quotes so I did. They praised his voice and since you mentioned Stevie. Stevie has praised him too :kii:

I don't give a fuck if you don't think his voice isn't groundbreaking. The fact is the world does. PERIOD.

Pawn will never. That flop bitch will stay a a flop with AUTOTUNE lolz! and with the same 5 faggs going up for her robotic voice and trash music.

tigernathan

Quote from: ........ on November 25, 2015, 02:02:31 AM
On a site that can be edited by fans
:kii:

v

Then what's the point of even mentioning a site like Wikipedia in this convo? Ray... plea' :dead:

RAY7

Quote from: tigernathan on November 25, 2015, 02:07:26 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 25, 2015, 02:02:31 AM
On a site that can be edited by fans
:kii:

v

Then what's the point of even mentioning a site like Wikipedia in this convo? Ray... plea' :dead:
because if his fans are sooooo in love with his vocals
They would have written more than 2 sentences
Duh
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