This is why (trans mess)

Started by L0NZ., April 08, 2020, 02:46:45 PM

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Sovereign.

Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
What a trans identified person chooses to disclose to their partners is their business. If they feel SAFE and affirmed by their partner then be it as it may....do Y'ALL! But trans folk don't owe the general public anything or anyone for that matter anything.

this is literal deception in addition to being selfish and completely self-serving. their partner has the RIGHT to decide wether or not they want to be with a trans a person. they don't have the right to take that choice from a potential partner.

also, why would a trans person even consider persueing a physical or romantic relationship with someone that they DIDN'T feel comfortable enough yo disclose their identity to?

see, any way you slice it, there just no justification gor keeping this from potential partners.

Love, I can't do your work for you. But I'll leave you with the words of Black feminist lesbian goddess Audre Lorde", you cannot dismantle the Master's house using the master's tools."

You, my love, are using the master's tools.

REALucid

Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
What a trans identified person chooses to disclose to their partners is their business. If they feel SAFE and affirmed by their partner then be it as it may....do Y'ALL! But trans folk don't owe the general public anything or anyone for that matter anything.

this is literal deception in addition to being selfish and completely self-serving. their partner has the RIGHT to decide wether or not they want to be with a trans a person. they don't have the right to take that choice from a potential partner.

also, why would a trans person even consider persueing a physical or romantic relationship with someone that they DIDN'T feel comfortable enough yo disclose their identity to?

see, any way you slice it, there just no justification gor keeping this from potential partners.

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Used to write our names in car fog



LOONA.

I think it's already implied we arent talking about random Joes they pass by on the street

And yh how do you feel safe enough to date someone but not safe enough to be honest about who you are

oph.

Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:27:10 PM
Quote from: ophelia on April 08, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
What a trans identified person chooses to disclose to their partners is their business. If they feel SAFE and affirmed by their partner then be it as it may....do Y'ALL! But trans folk don't owe the general public anything or anyone for that matter anything.

this is literal deception in addition to being selfish and completely self-serving. their partner has the RIGHT to decide wether or not they want to be with a trans a person. they don't have the right to take that choice from a potential partner.

also, why would a trans person even consider persueing a physical or romantic relationship with someone that they DIDN'T feel comfortable enough yo disclose their identity to?

see, any way you slice it, there just no justification gor keeping this from potential partners.

Love, I can't do your work for you. But I'll leave you with the words of Black feminist lesbian goddess Audre Lorde", you cannot dismantle the Master's house using the master's tools."

You, my love, are using the master's tools.

so basically you have no valid counterpoint. got it.

Sovereign.

April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM #64 Last Edit: April 08, 2020, 07:35:22 PM by Sovereign.
There's an assumption that trans folk should feel automatically safe when involved in intimate romantic relationships. That's untrue. There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.

It's the same thing when women are raped by their husbands, family members, relatives, etc. Folk who you often feel safe/close with can be those same folk who cause you a great deal of damage.


GLOCK

Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 06:59:16 PM
Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Why would u not proudly say it.. since there's no shame behind it :blink:

youre a trans woman...there should be delight in that

There is a difference between having pride and also being wise with who you choose to disclose that with because trans women are constantly in danger, being harmed, raped and killed because no one will give a damn. They're unfortunately disposable.

If someone were to share that they were trans here on this board, the amount of transphobia, harmful rhetoric and trolling that would take place....  :plzstop: There's real danger in telling folk you're trans.
bjkln

there are a few trans girls here bby
and we treat them with respect and dont make it a thing

but they are honest about the mess
im sorry but if ur laying with someone.. it should be upfront and left for the other person to decide if they wanna proceed with the mess

REALucid

At the end of the day, it's just absurd to not disclose something as important as gender with someone you're dealing with intimately. There's no way around it. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you don't need to be interacting on that level. It's deceitful, flat out.
Used to write our names in car fog



BAPHOMET.

Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
At the end of the day, it's just absurd to not disclose something as important as gender with someone you're dealing with intimately. There's no way around it. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you don't need to be interacting on that level. It's deceitful, flat out.


BAPHOMET.

this thread is about to make me cum 


GLOCK

if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh 
just be drag.. 

I wouldnt dare change my sex and not be proud of everything I am.. despite those that may question it or look down at it.
the only way we will move forward if girls are out loud with it.. and looking the part..and allowing us to live among them to change our ignorances and mess surrounding them.

GLOCK

Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 07:37:00 PM
Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
At the end of the day, it's just absurd to not disclose something as important as gender with someone you're dealing with intimately. There's no way around it. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you don't need to be interacting on that level. It's deceitful, flat out.

BigDawg

Quote from: 🌮. on April 08, 2020, 07:37:00 PM
Quote from: RealMatic on April 08, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
At the end of the day, it's just absurd to not disclose something as important as gender with someone you're dealing with intimately. There's no way around it. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you don't need to be interacting on that level. It's deceitful, flat out.

L0NZ.

Quote from: Sovereign. on April 08, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
There is actual stigma (patriarchy) that prevent what appears to be something as trivial as professing to your partner "I'm trans" to turning around and being murdered by that same person.


Why would that happen? Why would the partner murder the trans person out of nowhere?


LOONA.

Quote from: GLOCK on April 08, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
if you arent comfortable.. u shouldnt be trans tbh
just be drag..

Dndjjx why r u always ruining the moment

Damn dummy