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[Vonc2002]

Saying that everyone who loves B7 is a blind follower is a ridiculous statement. And if Brandy says B7 is more personal than Afro, then that's what it is. She literally wrote B7 how would the songs on Afro even be more personal?

B7 is fake personal. She's writing about mental illness and using it as metaphors without truly experiencing it. We all know how Bran can put on that fake sincere front, and some of the songs on this album give me that. But that's just my opinion so you can have yours and let me have mine 

See I got the opposite from this album. This one feels more authentic than all of her previous. While her usage of mental illness is questionable, I can relate to a lot of what she's singing about.

The album isn't without its flaws. There are several things I wish they had done differently, but there's a lot that I love. I'm all for her continuing in this direction.

Yup. Afrodisiac was LITERALLY about a fake marriage 
This is more authentic and sorry but brandy is weird and very unstable imo. So yea, This material FITS

[Musicboy88]

B7 vocals >>> Two Eleven. EASILY.

b7 wasn't about vocals tho. It's a vibey album. Same with Afro, even tho I think she did more vocally on b7 than that album too.
I'm honestly not hearing the "no vocal moments" mess. She shat on every song IMO

Its standard brandy

211 her vocals were in a sweet spot

the tone on  do you know
was the same tone she tried to go for on borderline and no tomorrow but she honestly failed and tried to make up for it this new baby talk trend because she wasnt able to tap into that sweet spot where she sounds really young and innocent

and the no tomorrow chourus she tried to tap into that same tone as scared of beautiful again it comes accross as forced

I chalk this up to just changes in vocals over the years

and lets not mention how her diction and clarity has declined since then

you can hate 211 all day but she was primed during that era

two eleven was okay vocally!!! With two eleven just sounds like brandy put a little more effort in the vocals an background. Brandy just need to take vocal lesson maybe with a female instructor too get back in shape. I just don't want too hear down the line that this wasn't her best work cause she good at saying that.

[Vonc2002]

I'm sorry but 2/11 is kinda SHIT to me. It's so clear it wasn't HER. I always hated that Chris Brown mess

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

It's near impossible to live up to the hype/expectations after an 8 year break.

One of my main issues with the album is that it doesn't, (in my opinion) seem cutting edge or changing the game. The R&B girls have been doing this Lo-Fi beats, stream of consciousness, lack of structure song production for years now. Obviously Bran is gonna put her spin on it, but the way she's presenting these songs (other than harmonies) is nothing new or revolutionary to the genre. And I'm actually surprised to see so many people on here going up for it when I know that was a huge gripe from a lot of y'all about these new "can't write a bridge" girls 

Also, I'm let down by the material. After these years of teasing about this being her most personal mess yet, it still seems rather detached. Co-opting mental illnesses as metaphors for relationships when you haven't truly lived with that diagnosis is a bit messy, to say the least. It bothers me how quickly she separated herself from the songs in interviews, saying she wasn't bipolar or borderline but relationships have made her feel like that  It all feels a bit disingenuous.

Usually I can get past songs or content I don't like because her voice saves the day. I've always felt her voice can make the shittiest song good, and there's always some inflection that gets me in my feelings, even if it's a song that I don't like. On B7 her voice feels very gruff, and like she's deliberately trying not to sound technically proficient. There's no vocal moment I rewind over and over like on all her other albums. She sounds like she did on FR and B&P on a lot of this album.

It's helped me to listen to this album as if it were coming from another artist. I was less critical, and able to enjoy it more. I definitely do not understand how people are already putting this above Afro and Full Moon on their lists, but to each their own. I think she should have released SAML, UO, LD, Borderline, NT, SS, and BB as the EP 4 years ago when they first started working on this. It doesn't really work as a full album for me and def feels cobbled together on the back end.

I think she will benefit from a shorter break between albums next time as well. I know she's been sitting on this music for years, and that's probably part of the reason it doesn't feel very of the moment. But I get she needed to get this out of her system and move on.

wow wow Yes lots of great points here
I sort of understanding brandys process once you finish a song the excitement of it all will have you flying it on shelves
but you need to sit and let it marinate and in essence get over it before you decide to release it  and  i think it took her quite a while to sit with them untill it was like one big shit she needed to take
reminds me of jojo when she was crafting a new album every 8 months
all i want is everything
to jumping trains
and it never getting released

but yeah its brandys vocals that pull the weight here
and brandy cannot seem to write a second verse her second verses sound like bridges lol 

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

B7 vocals >>> Two Eleven. EASILY.

b7 wasn't about vocals tho. It's a vibey album. Same with Afro, even tho I think she did more vocally on b7 than that album too.
I'm honestly not hearing the "no vocal moments" mess. She shat on every song IMO

Its standard brandy

211 her vocals were in a sweet spot

the tone on  do you know
was the same tone she tried to go for on borderline and no tomorrow but she honestly failed and tried to make up for it this new baby talk trend because she wasnt able to tap into that sweet spot where she sounds really young and innocent

and the no tomorrow chourus she tried to tap into that same tone as scared of beautiful again it comes accross as forced

I chalk this up to just changes in vocals over the years

and lets not mention how her diction and clarity has declined since then

you can hate 211 all day but she was primed during that era

two eleven was okay vocally!!! With two eleven just sounds like brandy put a little more effort in the vocals an background. Brandy just need to take vocal lesson maybe with a female instructor too get back in shape. I just don't want too hear down the line that this wasn't her best work cause she good at saying that.

211 wasnt crafted to be a vocals album
but she sure brought the vocals and they sounded lush and congruent
human was more vocal driven and she has great vocals on that but look what happened with that
so its not even about vocals anymore really
melody
vocals
replay value
knock lol

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

I also agree with Lew about redoing the songs being an issue. I think sitting on them for so long was to their ultimate detriment. That deep, rough vocal was where she was when initially recording these songs, and I would have preferred her to go all in with that and commit to it. Instead we have some light and airy mixes tacked on top of these husky vocals and it gives it an inconsistent feel, for me at least. Probably initially they were solid but she changed the adlibs and backgrounds so much over the years that a lot of them feel fragmented or incomplete. Unconditional Oceans is one of the only ones that feels whole and consistent all the way through to me.

yep i totally agree

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

I know they hate eachother but ugh to have someone like TC vocal produce. He knows how to layer. Did you guys hear his impression of Borderline?
https://twitter.com/tiyonxchristian/status/1293726658713784321

THIS SOUNDS LIKE TRASH THIS FAGGOT CANT EVEN GIVE SYRAI  WHEN TRYING TO IMITATE BRAN

never could harmonies or not

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

Borderline>7/11>Human

borderline fits in with 211

so sick
borderline
hardly breathing

are all sisters of each other lyricly and sonically

[Purple Moon]

I'm sorry I love this album lol

I feel like she went into it with a lot less pressure so she was able to be more creative

The album is definitely flawed, but I feel like it's her most genuine. No Brandy album has ever made me this emotional. Her pain resonates through each song. She really poured her heart out on this album.

Though I struggled in the beginning, I love the unconventional structure of the lyrics and melodies. Like India Arie said it feels very Broadway. I love that the lyrics are so personal. It's like only she and the person the song is about will really get it, but it's still relatable. Of course it's not her best production wise, but Brandy is a true artist so her technique will elevate anything. Contrary to popular opinion I think her and Camper worked well together and I have no problem with him doing b8. They will learn from their mistakes and get better.

The album reminds me so much of Amy Winehouse FRANK album (which is my favorite album ever). I think they are both great (deeply personal) and flawed (not the most polished at some parts) for the same reasons.

Is this her best work? Probably not, depending on how you look at it. But it's definitely my fave album by her.

Well This definetly Proves my point that if you needed this album and your still on your heealing a bit it will hit right for you
for others who are out of that space it just wont

I love you but you're assuming things and generalizing. It sounds sort of judgy aswell, as though you're above everyone and Brandy because you've ,,healed" Please!

[Lane Bryant Jumpsuit]

I'm sorry I love this album lol

I feel like she went into it with a lot less pressure so she was able to be more creative

The album is definitely flawed, but I feel like it's her most genuine. No Brandy album has ever made me this emotional. Her pain resonates through each song. She really poured her heart out on this album.

Though I struggled in the beginning, I love the unconventional structure of the lyrics and melodies. Like India Arie said it feels very Broadway. I love that the lyrics are so personal. It's like only she and the person the song is about will really get it, but it's still relatable. Of course it's not her best production wise, but Brandy is a true artist so her technique will elevate anything. Contrary to popular opinion I think her and Camper worked well together and I have no problem with him doing b8. They will learn from their mistakes and get better.

The album reminds me so much of Amy Winehouse FRANK album (which is my favorite album ever). I think they are both great (deeply personal) and flawed (not the most polished at some parts) for the same reasons.

Is this her best work? Probably not, depending on how you look at it. But it's definitely my fave album by her.

Well This definetly Proves my point that if you needed this album and your still on your heealing a bit it will hit right for you
for others who are out of that space it just wont

I love you but you're assuming things and generalizing. It sounds sort of judgy aswell, as though you're above everyone and Brandy because you've ,,healed" Please!

only if you view being healed as better than which it isnt
it just explains why the album would speak to you more than it would someone who has overcome these issues
just like when your in love and all the songs make sense
or when your on a break up and the girl power anthems hit better
or if ya man is faithfull monicas sideline ho wont hit so

my point is its less about brandy and more about where you are which will indicate how well the album is for you
and alot of the people that are finding it underwhelming is because it simply doesnt speak to them at this point in time
not because the music is bad

its true
and if the album had more universal themes it would be different

[b7]

Screaming @ this being the biggest Brandy thread in days. Of course

[Dr Naomi Campbell]

Yh I'm confused as to why this is 9 pages 

[Annie]

I think I said I don't blindly stan in a different thread but it was a personal response to some people saying we should respect the art. And if you don't love it you don't support Bran and her journey. You were never really a fan. But I have been overdosing on Afro and it is so important to have that music in my life. It just doesn't get old

[klappa.]

Yh I'm confused as to why this is 9 pages 

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[Annie]

I replied because I wanted to reply.

And it's the same hating ass ppl on here hating on Brandy on  a Brandy forum.

Know one is being a hater....everyone has their own opinion an that's okay! We can still dislike a album an still remain fans!!

This is what I mean
Can we change the name from General discussion to Just shut up and stan.
But still I'm excited to hear what's next
I'm just glad she is back!!!