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It's interesting with Bey because specifically on this last album she has like 500 songwriters credited. What more do yall want? Also there are many songwriters like Dream, Raphael Saadi's, Makeba Riddick, Jozzy etc who have spoken highly of Bey and confirmed that she does ADD to the composition of her songs. Lyrics are not the only part of songwriting and composition. Brandy is big on doing vocal arrangements as is Bey. These are a part of a song and it makes the song their own. They deserve credit for that even if it's just "lalala"

!!! she is doing what she needs to to cover herself.

Also beyonce is smart af.  Any controversy, she stays mute and it blows over.

Also i was just speaking with someone about this last night.  All the supposed times someone has accused her of stealing a song or not giving credit.  None of it went to trial or even settled out of court that I can remember right? it just seems to disappear.

Clock that tea

It's not stealing, they agree to give their publishing away and that wouldn't hold up in a court of law.

right every lawyer they talked to prolly laughed in their face.

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Also Bey credits everyone and their mama in her mess (see Kelis and those lalala's).

Her t's are crossed and her i's are dotted.

facts!! and kelis dumb ass still fumed!!!

yeah you CREDITED ME BUT YOU DIDNT ASK MY PERMISSION FOR A SONG I HAVE NO RIGHTS TOO.. gorlll

[Annie]

Also Bey credits everyone and their mama in her mess (see Kelis and those lalala's).

Her t's are crossed and her i's are dotted.

facts!! and kelis dumb ass still fumed!!!

yeah you CREDITED ME BUT YOU DIDNT ASK MY PERMISSION FOR A SONG I HAVE NO RIGHTS TOO.. gorlll

Well it's also about respect, not everything is about the legality..sometimes it's if it's okay morally.

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Also Bey credits everyone and their mama in her mess (see Kelis and those lalala's).

Her t's are crossed and her i's are dotted.

facts!! and kelis dumb ass still fumed!!!

yeah you CREDITED ME BUT YOU DIDNT ASK MY PERMISSION FOR A SONG I HAVE NO RIGHTS TOO.. gorlll

Well it's also about respect, not everything is about the legality..sometimes it's if it's okay morally.

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[ReVonIsMine]

IT KILLS ME THE WAY PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY SIGN UP FOR
AND THEN WANT TO BE PISSED ABOUT IT. GET YOUR CHECK
AND PRESS ON. TF?

[Annie]

IT KILLS ME THE WAY PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY SIGN UP FOR
AND THEN WANT TO BE PISSED ABOUT IT. GET YOUR CHECK
AND PRESS ON. TF?

But they are not getting that CHECK 

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Also Bey credits everyone and their mama in her mess (see Kelis and those lalala's).

Her t's are crossed and her i's are dotted.

facts!! and kelis dumb ass still fumed!!!

yeah you CREDITED ME BUT YOU DIDNT ASK MY PERMISSION FOR A SONG I HAVE NO RIGHTS TOO.. gorlll

Well it's also about respect, not everything is about the legality..sometimes it's if it's okay morally.

well, maybe so. I honestly dont think bey did it with ill intention. like as many times as bey has been accused of this she literally dots i's and crosses t's. if she thought she needed to ask kelis, and say "bitch do ya mind?" i think she would have. 


just the way Kelis went off that day was crazy and as a fan made me side her just a bit

[Rxxf]

She spoke truth.
Not one lie told.
I support her.

[Rxxf]

I felt her passion and I believe her experience is exactly what she said it is.  With that said,  I can understand why a beyonce level artist would try to get some of the publishing. Beyonce cutting a record is gonna get u alot more money than Joe schmo cutting the record so in order to get that kinda money,  that access, etc.  U gotta give up some percentage of this song

I agree with this, as well.

I think maybe the intention (of Bey) is not communicated, properly.

[The Only BLACK Kalmyks]

I support her.

!!!!

and not just because i wanna find fresh and new ways to get fas cancelled

but because i wanna find fresh and new ways to get fas cancelled.

[Rxxf]

An open letter from 3 years ago from top writers.



Hit songwriters pen open letter asking artists to stop demanding writing credits for songs they didn't write

The letter, organized by advocacy group The Pact, claims a "growing number of artists" demand publishing royalties for songs they had not contributed to, with some artists and executives using "bully tactics and threats" to get it. "These artists will go on to collect revenue from touring, merchandise [and] brand partnerships," the letter said. "Songwriters have only their publishing revenue as a means of income."


https://www.thefader.com/2021/03/31/songwriters-pen-open-letter-asking-artists-to-stop-demanding-writing-credits-for-songs-they-didnt-write
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Songwriters can't get a cut of the artists technical masters so they shouldn't get a cut of the publishing when they didn't write.

[ReVonIsMine]

THEY ARE THO. IT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANT OR DESERVE. TRUE! BUT THEY ARE GETTING A CHECK.
IT WOULD NOT TAKE 10+ OF MY HITS THAT I WROTE TO BE TAKEN FROM ME FOR ME TO
BREAK MY SILENCE. AFTER THE 1ST OR SECOND TIME I WOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
IT TO THE PUBLIC. I AGREE WITH HER BUT AFTER THE FIRST FEW TIMES IT HAPPENED, SHE
KNEW WHAT KIND OF GAME WAS BEING PLAYED. GET BETTER REPRESENTATION AND NEGOTIATORS
FOR YOUR WORK. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. IF YOUR SHIT IS THAT DOPE AND IF A ARTIST REALLY WANTS
IT THEY WILL BUCKLE DOWN AND GIVE WHAT YOU ASK. I DON'T CARE HOW FAMOUS THEY ARE.
PEOPLE JUST BE DYING TO BE ATTACHED TO A HUGE ARTIST FOR INDUSTRY CREDIT AND THEN WHEN
THEY GET FUCKED IT'S "BOOOHOOO"

[JCJ]

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[Barbie Dangerous]

Also the Carters tried to help all these ppl when they founded Tidal which was supposed to pay more than all the other platforms but yall let it flop talking about how yall don't care about helping the artists

Tried to help?  They founded Tidal to earn money. It is just another company.

It was founded the same way Spotify was founded to earn money. The same way Apple Music was founded to earn money. The same way Pandora was founded to earn money.

Tidal, on the other hand, was founded to make the artist and people responsible for the music way more money than any other service.

And none of this has to do with her *allegedly* taking 15/25% publishing on a song she didn't write

It has everything to do with that.

[Barbie Dangerous]

Also the Carters tried to help all these ppl when they founded Tidal which was supposed to pay more than all the other platforms but yall let it flop talking about how yall don't care about helping the artists

Tried to help?  They founded Tidal to earn money. It is just another company.

It was founded the same way Spotify was founded to earn money. The same way Apple Music was founded to earn money. The same way Pandora was founded to earn money.

Tidal, on the other hand, was founded to make the artist and people responsible for the music way more money than any other service.

Or instead of making a new company they could try to make streaming laws: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56815282.amp

The letter to Boris Johnson was organised by the Musicians' Union, and argued for a change in legislation that would "put the value of music back where it belongs - in the hands of music makers".
Copyright legislation, which came into force almost two decades before the birth of streaming platform Spotify, has "not kept up with the pace of technological change", it argues. As a result, "performers and songwriters do not enjoy the same protections as they do in radio".

For context: When a song is played on the radio, royalties are split evenly between the record label and the artists/songwriters, with a small portion going to session musicians and backing performers.

On streaming services, labels retain the majority of the money - with the artist receiving about 13% on average, and session musicians receiving nothing.

Tuesday's letter claims that "only two words need to change in the 1988 Copyright, Designs and Patents Act... so that today's performers receive a share of revenues, just like they enjoy in radio".

I'm not saying they were saviors but it was a step in the right direction and 100% more than what streaming services were/are doing.