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[Young]

Tidal really was about to be something smh

That rollout was iconic

[RAY7]

I feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.

Brandy and Mya don't really have the choice in the matter. I just saw an article where the songwriter Kaydence said she only made like $4000 from working on B7. Im sure she only did that work because she loves Bran because if Bran was being funny Kaydence could've clearly taken them songs to an artist that is actually moving units these days.
Beyonce is able to demand what she does because just based on her singing something it's going to make money and there's not many other singers you can work with that would make these ppl more

Okay, and Brandy still isn't taking anybody's publishing. That is the whole premise of what is being discussed.

Brandy is clearly only getting publishing when she has co-written. She has plenty of songs that she has no writing credit on, so she clearly is not an artist that is into taking publishing for work she didn't write on.

whats the point of using her as comparison if she doesn't have the choice?
When she was a big artist in the 90s she didn't need to demand publishing because music was selling and there was much more money in the industry. The internet messed everything up and that's why these artists are currently doing this. The ones that can

An artist has a choice to not take publishing so like I stated my girl appears to be on the up and up. Since she clearly isn't taking publishing without writing on a song.

Like this isn't a life or death situation like you are trying to make it lmao.

they all have choices whether or not to make these deals. If you're a songwriter and do not want to share publishing don't work with the big artists who demand publishing in these contracts
Go with Brandy and make $4000

Okay, and Brandy still appears to be on the up and up and doesn't take unearned publishing . It is a choice not to take from another artist's work.

Kudos to my girl for that.

ok but that's not helping these underpaid songwriters. She's choosing to not get embarrassed by trying to demand publishing that she wouldn't get anyway. Congrats?

[Lazarus]

As far as Brandy's concern she's never been an active writer like that. She's mostly credited as a songwriter on Never Say Never and Full Moon. I'm sure she eats well off those Never Say Never publishing and royalties.

[RAY7]

Stuff like this is the difference between music and acting. When the writers went on strike in Hollywood, the actors went on strike too and they all banded together until everyone got adequate pay. They weren't out here blaming the actors they went after the Hollywood execs and studios.
The artists and writers should all be demanding pay from the record labels and streamers but they're too busy beefing with each other and getting nowhere

[Summertime]

As far as Brandy's concern she's never been an active writer like that. She's mostly credited as a songwriter on Never Say Never and Full Moon. I'm sure she eats well off those Never Say Never publishing and royalties.

Yep like Afro has no co-written contributions from her & her debut co-written contributions is only for I Dedicate interludes I think.

She talked awhile ago how she does it without writing in terms of songs being about her life regardless.

Queen could have been strong arming but she doesn't.

I remember when she was ecstatic talking about how much she wrote of No Tomorrow and the other B7 songs.

She said it is the most writing she has done for an album.

[Lazarus]

As far as Brandy's concern she's never been an active writer like that. She's mostly credited as a songwriter on Never Say Never and Full Moon. I'm sure she eats well off those Never Say Never publishing and royalties.

Yep like Afro has no co-written contributions from her & her debut co-written contributions is only for I Dedicate interludes I think.

She talked awhile ago how she does it without writing in terms of songs being about her life regardless.

Queen could have been strong arming but she doesn't.

I remember when she was ecstatic talking about how much she wrote of No Tomorrow and the other B7 songs.

She said it is the most writing she has done for an album.

Yeah she has bare minimal contributions where's writing is concern for most of her albums. B7 was her passion project and first indie release so I get why she's all over it and the album has generated over 100 million streams which can be beneficial.

[Demetri Collier Electronics 🤴🏾]

Brandy has been vocal about writing everything she experiences in a journal during her off season, I'm sure she brings it with her to the studio when it's time to cut a song.

I'm not in that industry so I don't know how they do splits but if a song is birth from my journal and my life experiences I better get a credit because it's my concept.

[oph.]

I understand that but Bey won't miss those lil coins.

n

you have no idea what her expenses/financial goals are

[oph.]

yea I get both sides honestly. i have a feeling the way to handle situations like this is highly dependent on the context of said situation.

[Summertime]

Brandy has been vocal about writing everything she experiences in a journal during her off season, I'm sure she brings it with her to the studio when it's time to cut a song.

I'm not in that industry so I don't know how they do splits but if a song is birth from my journal and my life experiences I better get a credit because it's my concept.

I remember she said this especially when she talked about Afro back in the day.

[Demetri Collier Electronics 🤴🏾]

I understand that but Bey won't miss those lil coins.

n

you have no idea what her expenses/financial goals are

And I don't care.

[Demetri Collier Electronics 🤴🏾]

Brandy has been vocal about writing everything she experiences in a journal during her off season, I'm sure she brings it with her to the studio when it's time to cut a song.

I'm not in that industry so I don't know how they do splits but if a song is birth from my journal and my life experiences I better get a credit because it's my concept.

I remember she said this especially when she talked about Afro back in the day.

And Human too. Sean Garret once said she came up with the "Wildest Dreams" but I guess since she didn't write a lyric so she didn't get credit for it. I'm just happy she's learned to be more active when it comes to writing since then.

[L0NZ.]

Yea sis Beyonce is the last person you want advocating for fair publishing n

[Annie]

I feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.

As writers should be more vocal about their publishing and royalties. That's their livelihood if they don't have any other stream of income. I don't blame them for coming forward and sharing their stories.

I think a few years ago they were trying to get a movement together because it has clearly gotten out of hand with the top gorls having to publicly beg to stop being strong armed by non-writing artists.

A song can still slay without artists who didn't write on a song taking publishing.

They are all saying the same thing too which is so simple. Stop taking publishing with no writing.

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Sia on Rihanna

"She doesn't take publishing if she doesn't write on it, and I love that about her because a lot of artists were like, 'I want a little bit so that people think...' [...] and Rihanna, she's never asked for something."

Kudos to Rihanna for not requesting or wanting publishing. That's the moral and ethical thing to do.

I also heard a while back Rihanna pays fashion designers when they create clothes for her and her dancers.. and Bey asked fashion designers to send full collections for her and crew, and when she decided to not use them she wouldn't pay for all the work that was done. It's an honor to work for Bey but I would be pissed as well. That's crazy.

[Summertime]

Brandy has been vocal about writing everything she experiences in a journal during her off season, I'm sure she brings it with her to the studio when it's time to cut a song.

I'm not in that industry so I don't know how they do splits but if a song is birth from my journal and my life experiences I better get a credit because it's my concept.

I remember she said this especially when she talked about Afro back in the day.

And Human too. Sean Garret once said she came up with the "Wildest Dreams" but I guess since she didn't write a lyric she didn't credit for it. I'm just happy she's learned to be more active when it comes to writing since then.

Angel in Disguise too and many more that she came up with content, concept, & other aspects.