Songwriter Slams Bey, Tamar, Sevyn, & Zendaya For Stealing Songwriting Credits

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She has 40 grammys and this is well known in the industry so I doubt ppl care.



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February 19, 2024, 02:19:19 PM #61 Last Edit: February 19, 2024, 02:20:42 PM by DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾
Did Beyonce get a publishing credit for the song Diane Warren did  for her?
IDK, Robyn's Back!!!🥂



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These girls love to STEAL

Notice how Ciara wasn't mentioned.
Queen would never

Bc anyone she stole from would be too embarrassed to associate/claim her flops


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That's an interesting take but no baby. Anyone who claims credit for any of her mess is automatically sent to collections to take care of her negative balance for what she owes labels and Russell





Lazarus

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Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.


Brandy and Mya don't really have the choice in the matter. I just saw an article where the songwriter Kaydence said she only made like $4000 from working on B7. Im sure she only did that work because she loves Bran because if Bran was being funny Kaydence could've clearly taken them songs to an artist that is actually moving units these days.
Beyonce is able to demand what she does because just based on her singing something it's going to make money and there's not many other singers you can work with that would make these ppl more

I'm sure Brandy eats a lil bit of The Boy Is Mine. She did co-write and co-produced. That's publishing and royalties all the way around.

Summertime

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Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.



As writers should be more vocal about their publishing and royalties. That's their livelihood if they don't have any other stream of income. I don't blame them for coming forward and sharing their stories.

I think a few years ago they were trying to get a movement together because it has clearly gotten out of hand with the top gorls having to publicly beg to stop being strong armed by non-writing artists.

A song can still slay without artists who didn't write on a song taking publishing.

They are all saying the same thing too which is so simple. Stop taking publishing with no writing.

———-
Sia on Rihanna

"She doesn't take publishing if she doesn't write on it, and I love that about her because a lot of artists were like, 'I want a little bit so that people think...' [...] and Rihanna, she's never asked for something."



Summertime

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Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.


Brandy and Mya don't really have the choice in the matter. I just saw an article where the songwriter Kaydence said she only made like $4000 from working on B7. Im sure she only did that work because she loves Bran because if Bran was being funny Kaydence could've clearly taken them songs to an artist that is actually moving units these days.
Beyonce is able to demand what she does because just based on her singing something it's going to make money and there's not many other singers you can work with that would make these ppl more

Okay, and Brandy still isn't taking anybody's publishing. That is the whole premise of what is being discussed.

Brandy is clearly only getting publishing when she has co-written. She has plenty of songs that she has no writing credit on, so she clearly is not an artist that is into taking publishing for work she didn't write on.

Summertime

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Quote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 02:14:17 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.


Brandy and Mya don't really have the choice in the matter. I just saw an article where the songwriter Kaydence said she only made like $4000 from working on B7. Im sure she only did that work because she loves Bran because if Bran was being funny Kaydence could've clearly taken them songs to an artist that is actually moving units these days.
Beyonce is able to demand what she does because just based on her singing something it's going to make money and there's not many other singers you can work with that would make these ppl more

I'm sure Brandy eats a lil bit of The Boy Is Mine. She did co-write and co-produced. That's publishing and royalties all the way around.

Yeah many are in here mixing what publishing is which is strictly about writing. Masters is not the same as publishing.

RAY7

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Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.


Brandy and Mya don't really have the choice in the matter. I just saw an article where the songwriter Kaydence said she only made like $4000 from working on B7. Im sure she only did that work because she loves Bran because if Bran was being funny Kaydence could've clearly taken them songs to an artist that is actually moving units these days.
Beyonce is able to demand what she does because just based on her singing something it's going to make money and there's not many other singers you can work with that would make these ppl more

I'm sure Brandy eats a lil bit of The Boy Is Mine. She did co-write and co-produced. That's publishing and royalties all the way around.
A little bit indeed. I'd bet she was making a lot when it first came out when physical copies were out now she has to share the streaming royalties with Freddy, Lashawn's estate, Rodney and Nora Payne or whoever else I forgot also has credit

Lazarus

Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:39:01 PM
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Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.



As writers should be more vocal about their publishing and royalties. That's their livelihood if they don't have any other stream of income. I don't blame them for coming forward and sharing their stories.

I think a few years ago they were trying to get a movement together because it has clearly gotten out of hand with the top gorls having to publicly beg to stop being strong armed by non-writing artists.

A song can still slay without artists who didn't write on a song taking publishing.

They are all saying the same thing too which is so simple. Stop taking publishing with no writing.

———-
Sia on Rihanna

"She doesn't take publishing if she doesn't write on it, and I love that about her because a lot of artists were like, 'I want a little bit so that people think...' [...] and Rihanna, she's never asked for something."



Kudos to Rihanna for not requesting or wanting publishing. That's the moral and ethical thing to do.

Lazarus

Quote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 02:47:07 PM
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Quote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 02:14:17 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.


Brandy and Mya don't really have the choice in the matter. I just saw an article where the songwriter Kaydence said she only made like $4000 from working on B7. Im sure she only did that work because she loves Bran because if Bran was being funny Kaydence could've clearly taken them songs to an artist that is actually moving units these days.
Beyonce is able to demand what she does because just based on her singing something it's going to make money and there's not many other singers you can work with that would make these ppl more

I'm sure Brandy eats a lil bit of The Boy Is Mine. She did co-write and co-produced. That's publishing and royalties all the way around.
A little bit indeed. I'd bet she was making a lot when it first came out when physical copies were out now she has to share the streaming royalties with Freddy, Lashawn's estate, Rodney and Nora Payne or whoever else I forgot also has credit

In the beginning I'm sure she was making a lot I can only imagine but yeah streaming is a mothafucka though.

RAY7

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Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.


Brandy and Mya don't really have the choice in the matter. I just saw an article where the songwriter Kaydence said she only made like $4000 from working on B7. Im sure she only did that work because she loves Bran because if Bran was being funny Kaydence could've clearly taken them songs to an artist that is actually moving units these days.
Beyonce is able to demand what she does because just based on her singing something it's going to make money and there's not many other singers you can work with that would make these ppl more

Okay, and Brandy still isn't taking anybody's publishing. That is the whole premise of what is being discussed.

Brandy is clearly only getting publishing when she has co-written. She has plenty of songs that she has no writing credit on, so she clearly is not an artist that is into taking publishing for work she didn't write on.
whats the point of using her as comparison if she doesn't have the choice?
When she was a big artist in the 90s she didn't need to demand publishing because music was selling and there was much more money in the industry. The internet messed everything up and that's why these artists are currently doing this. The ones that can

RAY7

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Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 02:11:24 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.



As writers should be more vocal about their publishing and royalties. That's their livelihood if they don't have any other stream of income. I don't blame them for coming forward and sharing their stories.

I think a few years ago they were trying to get a movement together because it has clearly gotten out of hand with the top gorls having to publicly beg to stop being strong armed by non-writing artists.

A song can still slay without artists who didn't write on a song taking publishing.

They are all saying the same thing too which is so simple. Stop taking publishing with no writing.

———-
Sia on Rihanna

"She doesn't take publishing if she doesn't write on it, and I love that about her because a lot of artists were like, 'I want a little bit so that people think...' [...] and Rihanna, she's never asked for something."



Kudos to Rihanna for not requesting or wanting publishing. That's the moral and ethical thing to do.
Rih has some stories that don't get attention...

Boomz

Quote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 02:01:09 PMAlso the Carters tried to help all these ppl when they founded Tidal which was supposed to pay more than all the other platforms but yall let it flop talking about how yall don't care about helping the artists


Ray coming w/ facts

All this concern...

...as you blast your favorite mess on Spotify.
The worst paying platform