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Quote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 02:01:09 PMAlso the Carters tried to help all these ppl when they founded Tidal which was supposed to pay more than all the other platforms but yall let it flop talking about how yall don't care about helping the artists
Quote from: Annie on February 19, 2024, 04:29:27 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 02:48:28 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:39:01 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 02:11:24 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.That is good Mya is ethical.Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made. Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky. I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.As writers should be more vocal about their publishing and royalties. That's their livelihood if they don't have any other stream of income. I don't blame them for coming forward and sharing their stories.I think a few years ago they were trying to get a movement together because it has clearly gotten out of hand with the top gorls having to publicly beg to stop being strong armed by non-writing artists.A song can still slay without artists who didn't write on a song taking publishing.They are all saying the same thing too which is so simple. Stop taking publishing with no writing. ———-Sia on Rihanna "She doesn't take publishing if she doesn't write on it, and I love that about her because a lot of artists were like, 'I want a little bit so that people think...' [...] and Rihanna, she's never asked for something."Kudos to Rihanna for not requesting or wanting publishing. That's the moral and ethical thing to do.and Bey asked fashion designers to send full collections for her and crew, and when she decided to not use them she wouldn't pay for all the work that was done.
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 02:48:28 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:39:01 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 02:11:24 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.That is good Mya is ethical.Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made. Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky. I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.As writers should be more vocal about their publishing and royalties. That's their livelihood if they don't have any other stream of income. I don't blame them for coming forward and sharing their stories.I think a few years ago they were trying to get a movement together because it has clearly gotten out of hand with the top gorls having to publicly beg to stop being strong armed by non-writing artists.A song can still slay without artists who didn't write on a song taking publishing.They are all saying the same thing too which is so simple. Stop taking publishing with no writing. ———-Sia on Rihanna "She doesn't take publishing if she doesn't write on it, and I love that about her because a lot of artists were like, 'I want a little bit so that people think...' [...] and Rihanna, she's never asked for something."Kudos to Rihanna for not requesting or wanting publishing. That's the moral and ethical thing to do.
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:39:01 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 02:11:24 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.That is good Mya is ethical.Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made. Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky. I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.As writers should be more vocal about their publishing and royalties. That's their livelihood if they don't have any other stream of income. I don't blame them for coming forward and sharing their stories.I think a few years ago they were trying to get a movement together because it has clearly gotten out of hand with the top gorls having to publicly beg to stop being strong armed by non-writing artists.A song can still slay without artists who didn't write on a song taking publishing.They are all saying the same thing too which is so simple. Stop taking publishing with no writing. ———-Sia on Rihanna "She doesn't take publishing if she doesn't write on it, and I love that about her because a lot of artists were like, 'I want a little bit so that people think...' [...] and Rihanna, she's never asked for something."
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 02:11:24 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.That is good Mya is ethical.Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made. Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky. I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.As writers should be more vocal about their publishing and royalties. That's their livelihood if they don't have any other stream of income. I don't blame them for coming forward and sharing their stories.
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.That is good Mya is ethical.Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made. Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky. I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PMQuote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.
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Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 04:31:54 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2024, 04:23:52 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 04:13:36 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2024, 04:04:10 PMBrandy has been vocal about writing everything she experiences in a journal during her off season, I'm sure she brings it with her to the studio when it's time to cut a song. I'm not in that industry so I don't know how they do splits but if a song is birth from my journal and my life experiences I better get a credit because it's my concept.I remember she said this especially when she talked about Afro back in the day.And Human too. Sean Garret once said she came up with the "Wildest Dreams" but I guess since she didn't write a lyric she didn't credit for it. I'm just happy she's learned to be more active when it comes to writing since then.Angel in Disguise too and many more that she came up with content, concept, & other aspects.
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2024, 04:23:52 PMQuote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 04:13:36 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2024, 04:04:10 PMBrandy has been vocal about writing everything she experiences in a journal during her off season, I'm sure she brings it with her to the studio when it's time to cut a song. I'm not in that industry so I don't know how they do splits but if a song is birth from my journal and my life experiences I better get a credit because it's my concept.I remember she said this especially when she talked about Afro back in the day.And Human too. Sean Garret once said she came up with the "Wildest Dreams" but I guess since she didn't write a lyric she didn't credit for it. I'm just happy she's learned to be more active when it comes to writing since then.
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 04:13:36 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2024, 04:04:10 PMBrandy has been vocal about writing everything she experiences in a journal during her off season, I'm sure she brings it with her to the studio when it's time to cut a song. I'm not in that industry so I don't know how they do splits but if a song is birth from my journal and my life experiences I better get a credit because it's my concept.I remember she said this especially when she talked about Afro back in the day.
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2024, 04:04:10 PMBrandy has been vocal about writing everything she experiences in a journal during her off season, I'm sure she brings it with her to the studio when it's time to cut a song. I'm not in that industry so I don't know how they do splits but if a song is birth from my journal and my life experiences I better get a credit because it's my concept.
Quote from: Annie on February 19, 2024, 04:32:49 PMQuote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 02:01:09 PMAlso the Carters tried to help all these ppl when they founded Tidal which was supposed to pay more than all the other platforms but yall let it flop talking about how yall don't care about helping the artists Tried to help? They founded Tidal to earn money. It is just another company.
Quote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 01:16:04 PMIt's interesting with Bey because specifically on this last album she has like 500 songwriters credited. What more do yall want? Also there are many songwriters like Dream, Raphael Saadi's, Makeba Riddick, Jozzy etc who have spoken highly of Bey and confirmed that she does ADD to the composition of her songs. Lyrics are not the only part of songwriting and composition. Brandy is big on doing vocal arrangements as is Bey. These are a part of a song and it makes the song their own. They deserve credit for that even if it's just "lalala"
Quote from: Cowgirl on February 19, 2024, 04:39:00 PMQuote from: Annie on February 19, 2024, 04:32:49 PMQuote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 02:01:09 PMAlso the Carters tried to help all these ppl when they founded Tidal which was supposed to pay more than all the other platforms but yall let it flop talking about how yall don't care about helping the artists Tried to help? They founded Tidal to earn money. It is just another company.It was founded the same way Spotify was founded to earn money. The same way Apple Music was founded to earn money. The same way Pandora was founded to earn money.Tidal, on the other hand, was founded to make the artist and people responsible for the music way more money than any other service.
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on February 19, 2024, 04:46:11 PMQuote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 01:16:04 PMIt's interesting with Bey because specifically on this last album she has like 500 songwriters credited. What more do yall want? Also there are many songwriters like Dream, Raphael Saadi's, Makeba Riddick, Jozzy etc who have spoken highly of Bey and confirmed that she does ADD to the composition of her songs. Lyrics are not the only part of songwriting and composition. Brandy is big on doing vocal arrangements as is Bey. These are a part of a song and it makes the song their own. They deserve credit for that even if it's just "lalala"!!! she is doing what she needs to to cover herself.Also beyonce is smart af. Any controversy, she stays mute and it blows over. Also i was just speaking with someone about this last night. All the supposed times someone has accused her of stealing a song or not giving credit. None of it went to trial or even settled out of court that I can remember right? it just seems to disappear.
QuoteThe letter to Boris Johnson was organised by the Musicians' Union, and argued for a change in legislation that would "put the value of music back where it belongs - in the hands of music makers".Copyright legislation, which came into force almost two decades before the birth of streaming platform Spotify, has "not kept up with the pace of technological change", it argues. As a result, "performers and songwriters do not enjoy the same protections as they do in radio".For context: When a song is played on the radio, royalties are split evenly between the record label and the artists/songwriters, with a small portion going to session musicians and backing performers.On streaming services, labels retain the majority of the money - with the artist receiving about 13% on average, and session musicians receiving nothing.Tuesday's letter claims that "only two words need to change in the 1988 Copyright, Designs and Patents Act... so that today's performers receive a share of revenues, just like they enjoy in radio".
Quote from: Nine on February 19, 2024, 04:54:28 PMQuote from: Buy The Stars✨ on February 19, 2024, 04:46:11 PMQuote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 01:16:04 PMIt's interesting with Bey because specifically on this last album she has like 500 songwriters credited. What more do yall want? Also there are many songwriters like Dream, Raphael Saadi's, Makeba Riddick, Jozzy etc who have spoken highly of Bey and confirmed that she does ADD to the composition of her songs. Lyrics are not the only part of songwriting and composition. Brandy is big on doing vocal arrangements as is Bey. These are a part of a song and it makes the song their own. They deserve credit for that even if it's just "lalala"!!! she is doing what she needs to to cover herself.Also beyonce is smart af. Any controversy, she stays mute and it blows over. Also i was just speaking with someone about this last night. All the supposed times someone has accused her of stealing a song or not giving credit. None of it went to trial or even settled out of court that I can remember right? it just seems to disappear. Clock that teaIt's not stealing, they agree to give their publishing away and that wouldn't hold up in a court of law.
Quote from: JCJ on February 19, 2024, 05:00:14 PMQuote from: Nine on February 19, 2024, 04:54:28 PMQuote from: Buy The Stars✨ on February 19, 2024, 04:46:11 PMQuote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 01:16:04 PMIt's interesting with Bey because specifically on this last album she has like 500 songwriters credited. What more do yall want? Also there are many songwriters like Dream, Raphael Saadi's, Makeba Riddick, Jozzy etc who have spoken highly of Bey and confirmed that she does ADD to the composition of her songs. Lyrics are not the only part of songwriting and composition. Brandy is big on doing vocal arrangements as is Bey. These are a part of a song and it makes the song their own. They deserve credit for that even if it's just "lalala"!!! she is doing what she needs to to cover herself.Also beyonce is smart af. Any controversy, she stays mute and it blows over. Also i was just speaking with someone about this last night. All the supposed times someone has accused her of stealing a song or not giving credit. None of it went to trial or even settled out of court that I can remember right? it just seems to disappear. Clock that teaIt's not stealing, they agree to give their publishing away and that wouldn't hold up in a court of law.Who is talking about court or legalities
Quote from: Nine on February 19, 2024, 05:06:14 PMQuote from: JCJ on February 19, 2024, 05:00:14 PMQuote from: Nine on February 19, 2024, 04:54:28 PMQuote from: Buy The Stars✨ on February 19, 2024, 04:46:11 PMQuote from: RAY7 on February 19, 2024, 01:16:04 PMIt's interesting with Bey because specifically on this last album she has like 500 songwriters credited. What more do yall want? Also there are many songwriters like Dream, Raphael Saadi's, Makeba Riddick, Jozzy etc who have spoken highly of Bey and confirmed that she does ADD to the composition of her songs. Lyrics are not the only part of songwriting and composition. Brandy is big on doing vocal arrangements as is Bey. These are a part of a song and it makes the song their own. They deserve credit for that even if it's just "lalala"!!! she is doing what she needs to to cover herself.Also beyonce is smart af. Any controversy, she stays mute and it blows over. Also i was just speaking with someone about this last night. All the supposed times someone has accused her of stealing a song or not giving credit. None of it went to trial or even settled out of court that I can remember right? it just seems to disappear. Clock that teaIt's not stealing, they agree to give their publishing away and that wouldn't hold up in a court of law.Who is talking about court or legalitiesNick did, in the post I quoted. U ok?
