Songwriter Slams Bey, Tamar, Sevyn, & Zendaya For Stealing Songwriting Credits

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Summertime

Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

FAMÈ

Ch

These girls love to STEAL

Notice how Ciara wasn't mentioned.
Queen would never

Barbie Dangerous

Quote from: ᴴᴼᵀᴾᴵᴺᴷ on February 19, 2024, 01:47:35 PMCh

These girls love to STEAL

Notice how Ciara wasn't mentioned.
Queen would never

Bc anyone she stole from would be too embarrassed to associate/claim her flops



RAY7

Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 19, 2024, 01:24:57 PM
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Quote from: CHOKE on February 19, 2024, 10:59:42 AMSkskdkkdkfkfkfkfkd

I'm mad I watched that mess only for her to say she's never even written for Beyoncé

Let me finish my plate



I don't understand why that matters. We all know it's true


and she mentioned situations where it did happen with beyonce.
that she HEARD secondhand
From people tha people that have written the songs themselves :dead:
And we know that beyonce does this so that Part isn't news :dead:
that was their side of the story that they told her. We were not in the room and neither was she so it's not like her word is credible on this.
Now she DID work with Sevyn and Tamar. That is what should be focused on

FAMÈ

Quote from: Cowgirl on February 19, 2024, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: ᴴᴼᵀᴾᴵᴺᴷ on February 19, 2024, 01:47:35 PMCh

These girls love to STEAL

Notice how Ciara wasn't mentioned.
Queen would never

Bc anyone she stole from would be too embarrassed to associate/claim her flops


MDMCMVN UM VMVNVNNCNGNGNGNNSNSNDNNDNFNFNFNF


I MEAN if that helps ya sleep babes

Lazarus

Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

!!!!!!

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and have such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

Boomz

Quote from: ᴴᴼᵀᴾᴵᴺᴷ on February 19, 2024, 01:52:19 PM
Quote from: Cowgirl on February 19, 2024, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: ᴴᴼᵀᴾᴵᴺᴷ on February 19, 2024, 01:47:35 PMCh

These girls love to STEAL

Notice how Ciara wasn't mentioned.
Queen would never

Bc anyone she stole from would be too embarrassed to associate/claim her flops


MDMCMVN UM VMVNVNNCNGNGNGNNSNSNDNNDNFNFNFNF


I MEAN if that helps ya sleep babes

I'm cryin

So glad Quee' Ci married well n things cause...


RAY7

Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.
the whole industry is a mess. It's not like all these artists are super rich. Brandy has spoken multiple times about how her tv/film career has been way more lucrative than her music. The rich artists are the 1% that have had longevity and good business sense. There are also some songwriters like Babyface who were able to make millions off songwriting. It shouldn't be a battle between the singers and songwriters because neither are making the rules in the industry. They all need to be going after the streamers together

RAY7

Also the Carters tried to help all these ppl when they founded Tidal which was supposed to pay more than all the other platforms but yall let it flop talking about how yall don't care about helping the artists

Summertime

Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya, Rihanna, and others are ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.


Lazarus

Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.



As writers should be more vocal about their publishing and royalties. That's their livelihood if they don't have any other stream of income. I don't blame them for coming forward and sharing their stories.

FAMÈ

Quote from: Boomz on February 19, 2024, 01:57:05 PM
Quote from: ᴴᴼᵀᴾᴵᴺᴷ on February 19, 2024, 01:52:19 PM
Quote from: Cowgirl on February 19, 2024, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: ᴴᴼᵀᴾᴵᴺᴷ on February 19, 2024, 01:47:35 PMCh

These girls love to STEAL

Notice how Ciara wasn't mentioned.
Queen would never

Bc anyone she stole from would be too embarrassed to associate/claim her flops


MDMCMVN UM VMVNVNNCNGNGNGNNSNSNDNNDNFNFNFNF


I MEAN if that helps ya sleep babes

I'm cryin

So glad Quee' Ci married well n things cause...


huh?!

Sis is still kinda collecting multi platinum HITS these days on her own label.

But husb!


RAY7

Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Summertime on February 19, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on February 19, 2024, 01:22:39 PMI feel for songwriters. They got it the hardest in the industry it seem.

The hardest & them publishing checks are even smaller now they are saying than ever before + these non-writing artists demanding publishing without writing making their checks even smaller.

Writers need to start demanding a cut of technical masters since non-writing artists want a cut of their publishing.

I remember Sia complimented Rihanna on not taking publishing unless she co-wrote.

I'm so happy Mya does right by her co-writers and such an expertise with those publishing split sheets.

That is good Mya is ethical.

Writers are becoming more vocal than ever about artists doing the practice of taking publishing without writing.

It is kind of similar to how big producers take credit for a beat that a producer in their camp made.

Taking from others checks when one didn't contribute is tacky.

I think my girl Brandy is on the up and up bc she has many released songs that she is not listed as a co-writer.

She was proud of herself that she wrote way more than usual on b7.

Diane Warren said the publishing taking from artists that don't write would be akin to a writer demanding a cut of a artist's performance fee.


Brandy and Mya don't really have the choice in the matter. I just saw an article where the songwriter Kaydence said she only made like $4000 from working on B7. Im sure she only did that work because she loves Bran because if Bran was being funny Kaydence could've clearly taken them songs to an artist that is actually moving units these days.
Beyonce is able to demand what she does because just based on her singing something it's going to make money and there's not many other singers you can work with that would make these ppl more