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[Herb.]

Some of you are such hypocrites. When Macklemore did it, he was an opportunist. When Beyonce did it, it's organic lmao

Nice try, I'll give you E for effort.

But..

The entire argument in that thread was that Macklemore does not identify as gay but profited off of gay issues.

Beyonce is Black.  She is a woman of African descent. Now if Britney was up in a Black Panther suit singing about her cracker sons having nigger naps, and we crowned her the new Rosa Parks, you'd definitely have a point.

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Fag, keep GODney's name out of this mess. 

But I agree.

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[Vonc2002]

For starters:

"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.

I can comfortably say that Malcolm X knew what he was doing as well. Am I calling him an opportunist? Does clear intent automatically equate to that? According to you, it appears that it does. But then again, I never SPECIFIED what I meant when I stated that "she knew she was doing". You interpreted it in a way that supports YOUR argument.

Still reading.

What did you mean?

Whenever I see you say "she knew what she was doing" it seemed to me like you meant she knew how to cause controversy. To cause all this convasashun.

That was your assumption. And that's where you messed up.

I mean that her message through her visuals and movement were CLEAR. It wasn't something like Frank typing up a very general letter about a relationship and leaving it to interpretation. Imagine him pairing that letter with a video of him kissing a man instead. It would be taking something that could be left to the imagination, and making sure your message is crystal clear.

It doesn't get more clear than a sign in your video saying "stop shooting us".

Let's be clear on this:
Your opinions on her intent are just that.
But in the grand scheme of morality, impact ALWAYS trumps intent. Regardless of whether the outcome is good or bad. Fact is that she drummed up some valuable conversations and injected many people with a sense of Black pride.

How seriously you take it all is totally up to you. But just know that does NOT affect the impact.

SNL skit...Rudy...Boycott...Social Commentary...Super Bowl...50th Anniversary...Black History Month...still discussing Beyonce

The fucking impact

so you actually buy into the whole "Formation as a movement" thing?

that was a defining moment in your struggle for civil rights?

I'm not trying to be condescending or a bitch
I just want to be clear before I structure my explanation to you on the history of our culture so you better understand how ridiculous claiming that Formation is a movement actually is

I think if someone gets something from it,  they're entitled.  Music is subjective so who am i to shit all over what u got from a song? Im just happy to see that so many people agree and actually do see thru what imo is bullshit.

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20 pages did ci say somehting

[KING BENTLEY.]

For starters:

"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.

I can comfortably say that Malcolm X knew what he was doing as well. Am I calling him an opportunist? Does clear intent automatically equate to that? According to you, it appears that it does. But then again, I never SPECIFIED what I meant when I stated that "she knew she was doing". You interpreted it in a way that supports YOUR argument.

Still reading.

What did you mean?

Whenever I see you say "she knew what she was doing" it seemed to me like you meant she knew how to cause controversy. To cause all this convasashun.

That was your assumption. And that's where you messed up.

I mean that her message through her visuals and movement were CLEAR. It wasn't something like Frank typing up a very general letter about a relationship and leaving it to interpretation. Imagine him pairing that letter with a video of him kissing a man instead. It would be taking something that could be left to the imagination, and making sure your message is crystal clear.

It doesn't get more clear than a sign in your video saying "stop shooting us".

Let's be clear on this:
Your opinions on her intent are just that.
But in the grand scheme of morality, impact ALWAYS trumps intent. Regardless of whether the outcome is good or bad. Fact is that she drummed up some valuable conversations and injected many people with a sense of Black pride.

How seriously you take it all is totally up to you. But just know that does NOT affect the impact.

SNL skit...Rudy...Boycott...Social Commentary...Super Bowl...50th Anniversary...Black History Month...still discussing Beyonce

The fucking impact

so you actually buy into the whole "Formation as a movement" thing?

that was a defining moment in your struggle for civil rights?

I'm not trying to be condescending or a bitch
I just want to be clear before I structure my explanation to you on the history of our culture so you better understand how ridiculous claiming that Formation is a movement actually is

I think if someone gets something from it,  they're entitled.  Music is subjective so who am i to shit all over what u got from a song? Im just happy to see that so many people agree and actually do see thru what imo is bullshit.

Right in that sense! if you got something from it, more power to you.

but I see alot of dancing around this thread and alot of long quotes but I've yet to see anybody point out a LASTING cultural impact that this song and video have provided us with. And what cultural issues it has actually conquered.

.... getting some press and headlines for like 2 weeks isn't uncommon for ANY celebrity, especially a big one.

Miley and Nicki got that much press when they had their VMA feud

which is why it's not entirely untrue when people say Beyonce's an opportunist for this. She's a pop star who used a social issue to garner major attention for a song... for an upcoming project that she's working on .... for a song that she named her TOUR after ... I mean

I'd at least like for them to give us examples of the impact as it pertained to themselves, how it helped them on their journey, etc...

Hell even Rachael Dolezal sat at NAACP meetings. And people crucified her.

Let's call a thing a thing guys

[RAY7]

its crazy how far bias and disliking a person can go
Formation is a dope video and song, it has a message, which has made an impact, alongside the video and performance
and the song is all about LOVING being black and all that comes with it, if Bran sang it ya'll would take more time to LISTEN, and COMPREHEND. She puts Hot sauce in her bag, who else is known for that? Black ppl, she likes collard greens & cornbread, her child has nappy hair, she still has her original nose like Michael when he was still darker skinned in the Jackson 5,  shes ghetto she has sex then rolls up to Red Lobster, like of course its not the next "Lift Every Voice" but it does have a message just one packaged for easy consumption

[mauza]

I'm not going to read all these 20 damn pages but since I'm here : where's the album?

[Herb.]

its crazy how far bias and disliking a person can go
Formation is a dope  and song, it has a message, which has made an impact, alongside the video and performance
and the song is all about LOVING being black and all that comes with it, if Bran sang it ya'll would take more time to LISTEN, and COMPREHEND. She puts Hot sauce in her bag, who else is known for that? Black ppl, she likes collard greens & cornbread, her child has nappy hair, she still has her original nose like Michael when he was still darker skinned in the Jackson 5,  shes ghetto she has sex then rolls up to Red Lobster, like of course its not the next "Lift Every Voice" but it does have a message just one packaged for easy consumption

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some of these gorls want some spoken word mess over an india arie beat
then...and ONLY then...will it give Black pride

[Vonc2002]

For starters:

"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.

I can comfortably say that Malcolm X knew what he was doing as well. Am I calling him an opportunist? Does clear intent automatically equate to that? According to you, it appears that it does. But then again, I never SPECIFIED what I meant when I stated that "she knew she was doing". You interpreted it in a way that supports YOUR argument.

Still reading.

What did you mean?

Whenever I see you say "she knew what she was doing" it seemed to me like you meant she knew how to cause controversy. To cause all this convasashun.

That was your assumption. And that's where you messed up.

I mean that her message through her visuals and movement were CLEAR. It wasn't something like Frank typing up a very general letter about a relationship and leaving it to interpretation. Imagine him pairing that letter with a video of him kissing a man instead. It would be taking something that could be left to the imagination, and making sure your message is crystal clear.

It doesn't get more clear than a sign in your video saying "stop shooting us".

Let's be clear on this:
Your opinions on her intent are just that.
But in the grand scheme of morality, impact ALWAYS trumps intent. Regardless of whether the outcome is good or bad. Fact is that she drummed up some valuable conversations and injected many people with a sense of Black pride.

How seriously you take it all is totally up to you. But just know that does NOT affect the impact.

SNL skit...Rudy...Boycott...Social Commentary...Super Bowl...50th Anniversary...Black History Month...still discussing Beyonce

The fucking impact

so you actually buy into the whole "Formation as a movement" thing?

that was a defining moment in your struggle for civil rights?

I'm not trying to be condescending or a bitch
I just want to be clear before I structure my explanation to you on the history of our culture so you better understand how ridiculous claiming that Formation is a movement actually is

I think if someone gets something from it,  they're entitled.  Music is subjective so who am i to shit all over what u got from a song? Im just happy to see that so many people agree and actually do see thru what imo is bullshit.

Right in that sense! if you got something from it, more power to you.

but I see alot of dancing around this thread and alot of long quotes but I've yet to see anybody point out a LASTING cultural impact that this song and video have provided us with. And what cultural issues it has actually conquered.

.... getting some press and headlines for like 2 weeks isn't uncommon for ANY celebrity, especially a big one.

Miley and Nicki got that much press when they had their VMA feud

which is why it's not entirely untrue when people say Beyonce's an opportunist for this. She's a pop star who used a social issue to garner major attention for a song... for an upcoming project that she's working on .... for a song that she named her TOUR after ... I mean

I'd at least like for them to give us examples of the impact as it pertained to themselves, how it helped them on their journey, etc...

Hell even Rachael Dolezal sat at NAACP meetings. And people crucified her.

Let's call a thing a thing guys

Oh i definitely agree with u but apparently to some its the second coming of we shall overcome.

[Nyan Cat]

Some of you are such hypocrites. When Macklemore did it, he was an opportunist. When Beyonce did it, it's organic lmao

Make up your minds dummies.

I think it is authentic for Beyonce. A lot of black people make fun of JZ's lips & Blue Ivy's hair & she was DONE!

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[KING BENTLEY.]

its crazy how far bias and disliking a person can go
Formation is a dope  and song, it has a message, which has made an impact, alongside the video and performance
and the song is all about LOVING being black and all that comes with it, if Bran sang it ya'll would take more time to LISTEN, and COMPREHEND. She puts Hot sauce in her bag, who else is known for that? Black ppl, she likes collard greens & cornbread, her child has nappy hair, she still has her original nose like Michael when he was still darker skinned in the Jackson 5,  shes ghetto she has sex then rolls up to Red Lobster, like of course its not the next "Lift Every Voice" but it does have a message just one packaged for easy consumption

and her being ghetto and having sex after Red Lobster is a BLACK statement. how utterly OFFENSIVE stRay like.. 
are you just spouting what massa told you to or what boy

and what about the LGBT references stRay?

I noticed you completely left those out of the "impact" the song had

or is it because you could care less

lemme know boy

[Herb.]

The fact that 'fas lets Blu wear her hair in its natural state
shows that her Black pride isn't a front. she knows where kinky hair comes from. Solange has it, she has it, her daughter has it.

And the same people questioning her Black pride, or reading Blue, will be the same ones slapping perms into their kids heads
and covering their head with 10 pounds of weave. or calling Africans ugly. or uplifting Eurocentric standards of beauty and culture.
Those are the people ya'll need to be worried about. leave GODmation the fuck alone

[Nyan Cat]

I'm not going to read all these 20 damn pages but since I'm here : where's the album?

it leak & thts wat we r discussin hon

u betta read ahp!

[KING BENTLEY.]

You gorls are really LOST if a bitch singing about fucking her man and treating HIM to Red Lobster incites pride in your culture

like... UGH!!!!

lemme the fck LEAVE

[RekeRig]

if Bran sang it ya'll would take more time to LISTEN, and COMPREHEND. She puts Hot sauce in her bag, who else is known for that? Black ppl

It's a funny stereotypical joke, but eh

the hot sauce in the bag thing aint a good example of black pride tbh. it doesn't offend me or anything but im just sayin ...

[Nyan Cat]

n no shay

im not surprise tht alotta tha gorls dnt use bey evn if she was clearly tryna give a blck power mess out

they dnt care 'bout how bey ignores her own community on how blues hair is
tha same users in hea clamoring 'gainst formate & bey are tha SAME ones makin napp' head blue jokes
& THATS..wat pisses me off