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[Young]

Omffff at you having the same hair as the guy you just posted


I'm really gonna dig the fuck into my mess because u kn wh

him.



I'm telling you am MELUNGEON

Yup.

Just the way you guys' hair falls

Ack!

That was a trait that came out in you for SURE. 

[Young]

Genetics is crazy

[Herb.]

Omffff at you having the same hair as the guy you just posted


I'm really gonna dig the fuck into my mess because u kn wh

him.



I'm telling you am MELUNGEON

Yup.

Just the way you guys' hair falls

Ack!

That was a trait that came out in you for SURE. 

we're still here

[LOONA.]

Bitch

[SouravMay]

Omffff at you having the same hair as the guy you just posted


I'm really gonna dig the fuck into my mess because u kn wh

him.



I'm telling you am MELUNGEON

crine

dddd

[Herb.]

[SouravMay]

And after digging deeper when you said Melungeons were black, really they are not.

They clearly would not pass as black.



In fact most literature describes them as Portuguese, who happened to have a little black or native in them. Olive skin/tan white people.



http://bigthink.com/Resurgence/why-were-the-melungeons-surprised-by-their-african-roots

[SouravMay]

Melungeons did NOT self-identify as blacks, and also would not send their children to black schools.

Melungeons would not send their children to black schools and they were not allowed in the white schools, so the Tennessee Department of Education had "Indian" schools for them. This led to almost total illiteracy among Melungeons. They would not have black teachers and white teachers would not teach in their schools, so they had to depend on the few Melungeons who had learned to read at the Presbyterian Mission School in Vardy. None of their teachers had been to high school. In Tennessee until the 1950's and 60's, Melungeons were usually classified as black for marriage, white for voting and Indian for education.

http://www.frenchcreoles.com/CreoleCulture/freepeopleofcolor/The%20Melungeons.html

[SouravMay]

Very interesting piece on actual Melungeons.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201411/the-past-is-written-your-face

[Herb.]

And after digging deeper when you said Melungeons were black, really they are not.

They clearly would not pass as black.



In fact most literature describes them as Portuguese, who happened to have a little black or native in them. Olive skin/tan white people.



http://bigthink.com/Resurgence/why-were-the-melungeons-surprised-by-their-african-roots

Now I will agree, because this heritage comes from my great grandfather and on some of his documents they had him listed as White. which means he was white enough to pass.

But.... there are a few I've seen that could clearly be seen as of African descent.
Dark skin or bigger features with different hair.

[Real]

I really do not want to be combative, but there are some things I do want to point out to you.

First of all YOUR genetical make-up in its totality perfectly fits the bill of the ethnic group "African American", it is a very typical result for "African American", your personal DNA is not that of "Melungeon" people, nor is your experience growing up that.

So it would be really weird if someone could actually see Melungeon in you when you don't have the proper admixture of racial ingredients. Anybody that thinks I look Nigerian, I don't take him seriously, because I simply do not. My genetic admixture is absolutely atypical for a "Nigerian". Every ethnic look essentially is made up of a certain melange of ingredients. And you yourself do not have the proper proportions of ingredients to be Melungeon. From what I read, Melungeons could actually pass as white or native, which you could not. 

And looking Haitian does NOT equal looking Melungeon. The typical Haitian look is 85-95% black, Haiti is known to be the only true black nation of the Caribbean, because they killed off almost all the whities over there. So when somebody says you look Haitian, they probably think you look very very Subsaharan African and not "tri-racial", what Melungeons essentially are, who I am sure form a little minority in Haiti, and people do not think of when thinking of Haitians.

So you might have Melungeon in your family but neither genetically nor culturally, do you fit the bill. Matter of fact you perfectly make up the unique and intricate admixture of "African American", splashes of white, native, Creole/Melungeon, and a whole bunch of West African. And that is also your culture, African American. Now if you really want to travel to these places where Melungeons today reside, talk to them, learn the habits, culture, proverbs, cuisine, and then figure out if this is really who you are, I believe, THEN you can talk about claiming stuff.

For right now it should be a little sidenote, not a the main headline. If we are being pedantic and consqeuent.

You're pretty intelligent, Malcolm. It's amazing how polarizing you can be with it though. This post made all the sense in the world, but then you turn around and say all African Americans need to sound like Harriet Tubman

Just don't know how to feel about ya

[Herb.]

and it's truly all subjective tbh

It really is.

People have said I look Haitian, or Dominican, asked if I had Native in my family..

honestly if I didn't have my hair I dno't think these questions that would be asked.

but at the end of the day, my hair is actually a trait passed down through my heritage. people realize there's something "exotical" about me. or however you put it Malcolm.

Doesn't mean they look at me and say . oh wow I know he's triracial. equally on all ends. but they just see something different and a little unique. And I embrace that. I love the contrast of my nose and skin to my hair.

couple ignorant ppl may accuse me of perming (like Malcolm originally did) but for the most part people can tell this is the hair that grows out of my head.

and that's embracing all of you. my nigga nose with jackson 5 nostrils. EVERYTHING. i love me and feel honored to be me.

this is why i LOVE Formation.

[SouravMay]

Yeah, Malc' always tries to extremely provocative and then you just kinda...forget his actual point.

Sorry, sis, but it's true.

Sometimes you can just take on whatever perspective in a debate and figure out how to argue it through, regardless of whether that is your personal stance. This sharpens your wit and argumentative skill set. It also makes you look at things from different angles.

However on a regular basis it can take away from the authenticity of my intentions within a debate, when it is a reoccurring phenomenon ? la "Does he argue to argue, or does he argue because has something to say?"

This time around I was being genuine though.

[Herb.]

matter of fucking fact....

sorry guys i have to.

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[Herb.]

i like my bvy hair with my bvy hair and afros
i like my negro nose with muthafucking jackson 5 nostrils