?Face of triumph?: Brandy returns to music after battle with depression

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SouravMay

Bran been telling these same damn story ever since 2000
and fckn 7...

Like Chris brown had his down phase and came back for good. Britney too, Rih too.

Bran apparently digs one whole after the other I just don't understand why she never feels confident and comfortable enough to just come back and STAY....

I feel like if she doesn't go quadruple platinum she's already like "ack failure! Flopped! Need to go hiding, break from
Music!"

How about you just keep trying, Hun? Pump out more songs, actually shoot PROPER videos...

Ugh it doesn't really matter just don't see it for this pointless defending.
B7

brocka4life

Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
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Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
She pretty much only discussed Begging n pleading and what that song gave. She said the album will be deeper lyrically, more personal, she wants to tell a story, and she's been writing


I didn't see many descriptive lines here other than that :dead: and certainly not any promises in terms of the sound. What same old song and dance are you referring to?

Boy, your optimism is cute...but no!


We have heard this all before. She has promised that 2/11 would be her most personal album to date...and half the songs she wouldn't sing live because they were too sexual.


QuoteThe great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight.


Honestly, when has she actually done that? They barely announce where and when she performs.


The interviews have been sounding the same since before Human dropped...it's going on 8 years. I'm sorry, but Brandy has to do something else. Her visuals don't excite, her music takes forever to release and in-between there are no consistent announcements about what is to come. Her saving grace is her vocal talent...that's what the fans need. That is the only consistent thing about Brandy the musician/artist.
its not optimism it's just the facts. She said 2/11 would be a lot more fun than the previous album and it was. I don't remember her saying it would be her most personal

That era was a mess, and she shook hands with the devil yet again :dead: and I'm aware of that. I'm literally not disputing anything Else you've said in that post

:dead: ur just rambling about what we all already know. I've never sat up here a day in my life and called her a great business woman. I wouldn't even lie to her face and say that :dead:

I just fail to see where she described what her music would be like in this article, as you pointed out :kii: if anything, my issue is that she said not much at all :dead:

Did you not ask what I was referring to?  :uhh: :plzstop: Then when I tell you, you say I'm rambling...boy.


Like I said, you can pretty line up most of her interviews for the past 10 years and get the same information.

As a fan, it is not my role to decipher what business deals she signed or who she shook hands with. As a fan, what I care about is the product and how it is delivered. People have started and finished college in between Brandy eras. People have finished middle school and high school in between Brandy eras. Life changes but somehow her interviews don't.  :plzstop:
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So if all u care about is the product, then why do interviews matter? A lot of girls are repetitive in these transcripted interviews

We ALL just want consistent music released and some good visuals.  n

That's really all it comes down to. Repetitive interview or not

I can't.  :kii:

The whole point was these repetitive interviews. You questioned the interviews being repetitive and then gave all these "behind the scenes" excuses. And now you agree the interviews are repetitive.

All I did was point out some fallacies in the things she stated in the interview.

But I'm going to stop because people can't give their opinions around here. I forgot we must all operate on groupthink.

brocka4life

Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:46:34 PM
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.

I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
but yes, she tends to repeat herself a lot in interview or "professional" settings


That's why snapchat is a blessing. U wanna hear the real deal then I suggest y'all follow her on there :dead: she's almost a little too honest (as some have complained about)


Does that not sound like "same old song and dance"?  :shannonsmissing:
no

Cuz u were talking about your inability to believe what she says when she discusses her music. That's what I hopped in ur quotes about

She delivered exactly what she said she would and MORE with "Beggin and pleadin"

That's all it took for me to believe. If y'all don't hear and see the difference with that ...


So a person could tell half truths for 10 years.
Then make one promise and deliver on it.
We are supposed to then believe everything.

Faith! Mustard seed!


:feelinmyself:

b7

Chris brown and Britney are a fucking mess

One releases the same song over and over and constantly has online meltdowns, and one is a damn robot who needs new batteries to order herself some food.

Horrible comparison. Brandy hasn't taken a break since TwoEleven. We just haven't received music consistently because of yet another POOR business move, unfortunately


Young

Quote from: clutch on June 08, 2016, 12:26:41 PM
Excerpt from interview with Australian newspaper

QuoteThe singer has been open about her battle with depression, following turmoil in her professional and personal life and a string of setbacks and missed opportunities.

Brandy admitted she renewed her faith in God and focused on daughter Sy?rai, who is about to turn 14 and regularly features singing on her mother?s social media.

?People would never guess the dark space that I was in about a year ago and how long I was sad and depressed. It showed in my physical frame and in my eyes,? Brandy said in 2014.

As part of getting her career and life back on track last year Brandy made her Broadway debut in Chicago, playing Roxie Hart, she and Ray J will appear in the new US celebrity version of My Kitchen Rules. After some disillusionment with the record industry, and the end of some public relationships, she is making a serious return to music this year.

New single Beggin? and Pleadin? was released on her own label, Slayana.

?One of my fans gave me the name ?Slayana?,? Brandy says. ?People always say ?Oh she slayed? someone does a good performance. My middle name is Rayana, so they just added the ?Slay? in. With this new movement of me fighting for my voice and my stance within my life, I?m not really taking anything other than what I deserve.

?I know my value as a person, now, as an artist and I?m owning that. I want to be OK with my gift. I?m not afraid to say no, not afraid to own what belongs to me and what God has given me and share that with others and inspire others. That?s a blessing. I just don?t want to ever forget that?s a part of who I am. There have been times I have forgotten my values and my worth. It?s a different feeling being in this space.?

Beggin? and Pleadin? is far from a guaranteed R & B radio hit in 2016 ? mixing a vintage John Lee Hooker sample with modern ?trap? beats ? a risk which Brandy says is deliberate.

?I?m not a great follower,? she says. ?I was always inspired by the music I should do, when I lost that I started to lose my way as an artist. I wanted to get back into that leadership position within my own life. Sonically I feel like Beggin? and Pleadin? can tell the story I?m trying to tell going forward. It?s blues, with trap beats, and just real music. Real music and speaking to that time when people were not afraid to just follow their gut. That?s what I?m following right now.?

That also means Brandy has no desire to return to a major record, after becoming a victim of politics that saw albums shelved, interfered with or under-promoted.

?I?m all by myself and I like it that way,? she says. ?With major labels, excuse me if this sounds shady, but they?re all shadow artists. They all want to really be the artist, they all tell you exactly what they think you should do. Some people have great intentions, some people don?t.


?Unfortunately I?ve been in contact with people who?ve had the best intentions for themselves, but not for me, so I had to distance myself from people like that and get some balls and move forward and do what I?m lead to do.

?What?s leading me is something that?s bigger than me so I?ve gotta follow that. The great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight. You can be your own publicist, your own label. I?m glad I?ve finally got that. It?s been an expensive lesson I had to pay, but I got it.?

Brandy also promises fans can expect her most honest lyrics to date on her next album, touching on her depression and also her comeback.

?My last experience is one of the greatest stories I have to tell, it was one of the craziest transitions of my life. Coming into my own as woman, fighting depression, coming out of depression into this Broadway girl who realised I was born for theatre and moved to a whole new space where I feel like I can do anything if I put my mind to it, I?m no longer in a box.

?That?s a story that needs to be told and told in the rawest sense. So many people can relate. Even if they can relate in terms of where I am in the end, hopefully some people in the middle can think ?OK, if she can survive it, I can survive my own stuff?. I just want to be an example. I want to be the face of triumph.?

This month she?ll perform what will be, remarkably, her first ever Australian live shows, with a full live band.

?I haven?t been with my band in a minute, this is a fresh new experience,? she says.

?Of course I?ll do all the hits, do the fan favourites, some special tributes. I always do something for Whitney, she was my all time favourite and she was my friend. I might do some Chicago songs. I get to bring my daughter too, which is a blessing. Just know I?m going to bring my A-Game out there. My fans out there have been very patient supporting me. I?ll bring it, believe me.?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/music/face-of-triumph-brandy-returns-to-music-after-battle-with-depression/news-story/7405eb8e6df41f1ce1eeb2eaec75da78


Bitch  :plzstop: :stressed:


Young

Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:50:38 PM
Chris brown and Britney are a fucking mess

One releases the same song over and over and constantly has online meltdowns, and one is a damn robot who needs new batteries to order herself some food.



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BranLover

Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.

I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.

I can absolutely agree with this. Put all of this newness into your music, performances, videos, etc. I'm hoping to be blown away by this tour.

brocka4life

Quote from: z??? on June 08, 2016, 07:47:19 PM


I feel like if she doesn't go quadruple platinum she's already like "ack failure! Flopped! Need to go hiding, break from
Music!"


I kind of sensed that when India.Arie was telling her how she gets it about the whole trying things and them not working out. I could be wrong, but it appeared Silent leaned in with something along the lines of its not all about sales but impact and she kinda shrugged it off.


:pourup:

b7

Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 07:50:05 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:35:51 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.

I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
but yes, she tends to repeat herself a lot in interview or "professional" settings


That's why snapchat is a blessing. U wanna hear the real deal then I suggest y'all follow her on there :dead: she's almost a little too honest (as some have complained about)


Does that not sound like "same old song and dance"?  :shannonsmissing:
no

Cuz u were talking about your inability to believe what she says when she discusses her music. That's what I hopped in ur quotes about

She delivered exactly what she said she would and MORE with "Beggin and pleadin"

That's all it took for me to believe. If y'all don't hear and see the difference with that ...


So a person could tell half truths for 10 years.
Then make one promise and deliver on it.
We are supposed to then believe everything.

Faith! Mustard seed!


:feelinmyself:
Not at all. Believe what you'd like

I just see a clear difference. I'm not concerned with the interviews when I can actually SEE and hear it

If anything, She's been in hot water for being too honest lately and completely open like we've never seen :kii: why would i focus on a basic phone interview with the Australian press? 

This interview wasn't done for the general public or for her core fans that follow every move. They asked general basic ass questions I'm sure

But like Malc said, this is all pointless. We all would like the same things. Consistent quality

She has yet to deliver in terms of consistency


b7

Quote from: TAE! on June 08, 2016, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.

I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.

I can absolutely agree with this. Put all of this newness into your music, performances, videos, etc. I'm hoping to be blown away by this tour.

brocka4life

Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 07:50:05 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:35:51 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.

I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
but yes, she tends to repeat herself a lot in interview or "professional" settings


That's why snapchat is a blessing. U wanna hear the real deal then I suggest y'all follow her on there :dead: she's almost a little too honest (as some have complained about)


Does that not sound like "same old song and dance"?  :shannonsmissing:
no

Cuz u were talking about your inability to believe what she says when she discusses her music. That's what I hopped in ur quotes about

She delivered exactly what she said she would and MORE with "Beggin and pleadin"

That's all it took for me to believe. If y'all don't hear and see the difference with that ...


So a person could tell half truths for 10 years.
Then make one promise and deliver on it.
We are supposed to then believe everything.

Faith! Mustard seed!


:feelinmyself:
Not at all. Believe what you'd like

I just see a clear difference. I'm not concerned with the interviews when I can actually SEE and hear it

If anything, She's been in hot water for being too honest lately and completely open like we've never seen :kii: why would i focus on a basic phone interview with the Australian press? 

This interview wasn't done for the general public or for her core fans that follow every move. They asked general basic ass questions I'm sure

But like Malc said, this is all pointless. We all would like the same things. Consistent quality

She has yet to deliver in terms of consistency



Rxxf

Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.

I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
well now that she's truly free and independent we'll really be able to see if that holds true

she's been through more than most

Meh
Someone said something similar back in 2010.
It's always something.

I can relate to setbacks.
But I feel like there's always something major/new that happens the leads her back to depression each era. Nothing to be faulted for or anything. It just is.
BRANDY

b7

Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.

I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
well now that she's truly free and independent we'll really be able to see if that holds true

she's been through more than most

Meh
Someone said something similar back in 2010.
It's always something.

I can relate to setbacks.
But I feel like there's always something major/new that happens the leads her back to depression each era. Nothing to be faulted for or anything. It just is.
Yea life can be pretty brutal :dead: glad she's still pushing and I hope she puts it all into her writing and music

Beggin' is a great start


SouravMay

Rig you swore up
And down you felt that difference with iabtm
And two e' era...

Your radar cannot be trusted tbh....


Two eleven was human all over again in so many ways.


If it's one thing I'm sick about almost as much as "Devine timing" it's her "I've finally found who I am, and I wasn't myself before" rhetoric...
B7

Rxxf

And Rig,
I understand depression. I get it. It's real. Trust me. I'm speaking from a place of understanding......

But I'm really saying is that...
There comes a point where you stabilize, and even when there's setbacks, you have the mental strength to not fall back into the same habits and you remind yourself you're on a journey. I'm waiting for that moment. Cause each era it sounds like she just came out of depression again. Which means, she never left it or gained the skills necessary to PUSH through even when things are going completely wrong.
BRANDY