Where is the next Beyonce and Rihanna?

Started by Bulldagger, December 04, 2016, 02:50:14 PM

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Opposites Attract.

and the reason why a lot of these girls are flopping because you're looking at them as the "next" instead of letting them be independent and individuals. Always comparing them to this or that. Let them grow and be freely.


It's unconditional, these days you know....

4 fucking k

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Tinashe ain't gonna happen, luvs. Her chance came and went after 2 On. IMO, there's really no room for a black female artist these days. Bey and Rih were lucky to debut when they did.


Bulldagger

December 04, 2016, 07:47:30 PM #212 Last Edit: December 04, 2016, 07:54:10 PM by Bulldagger
Quote from: K♚NG. on December 04, 2016, 07:44:06 PM
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How can you speak out against something but still perpetuate it? Like..

What am I to say when it's so blatantly obvious? Hey, I support singers like Kelly Rowland and Fantasia, but it's obvious that their skintones are an issue for a lot of people, including their own.

Again, they don't have to be clones of Beyonce and Rihanna. Where are they though; why aren't they successful like Ariana, Taylor Swift, Demi and Selena?

I agree with the poser that said it's because black and brown people aren't supporting them. Back in the day, you had to purchase a cd and that made it easier for entertainers to blow up. Black people not supporting R&B is partially why it is not selling. White people never cared for R&B Mary J. like that.  We were the ones buying those albums!

Opposites Attract.

Again how can you say "Where are they? Why aren't they successful?" then proceed to answer your own question. They aren't successful because of that very reason, lack of support. Every girl mentioned in this thread may not be successful selling albums and singles but they are all successful. The mere fact that we are even discussing them proves that fact. No one is selling albums these days. I mean you have all these popular rapper songs who have literally no real hits but are slaying the scene.


It's unconditional, these days you know....

CHOKE

Are you girls trying to use skin tone as an excuse for their success again?

:melmel:

Amerie, Tinashe, Keri Hilson, Nicole, Cassie etc all were light and all flopped

They just don't have IT

Opposites Attract.

and another issue is that "think like" mentality. You can't get into someone if everyone else doesn't like them. Already posting critic stats and listening to 30second clips judging an entire body of work rather than going in and listening to the shit, sitting with it for a while and judging for yourself.


It's unconditional, these days you know....

KING BENTLEY.

Quote from: Bulldagger on December 04, 2016, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: K♚NG. on December 04, 2016, 07:44:06 PM
n

How can you speak out against something but still perpetuate it? Like..

What am I to say when it's so blatantly obvious? Hey, I support singers like Kelly Rowland and Fantasia, but it's obvious that their skintones are an issue for a lot of people, including their own.

Again, they don't have to be clones of Beyonce and Rihanna. Where are they though; why aren't they successful like Ariana, Taylor Swift, Demi and Selena?

I agree with the poser that said it's because black and brown people aren't supporting them. Back in the day, you had to purchase a cd and that made it easier for entertainers to blow up. Black people not supporting R&B is partially why it is not selling. White people never cared for R&B Mary J. like that.  We were the ones buying those albums!
I just ..... don't know where to begin

H.#.G.*.Z

KING BENTLEY.

December 04, 2016, 08:03:08 PM #217 Last Edit: December 04, 2016, 08:03:27 PM by BENTLEY.
If Janet Jackson and Whitney Houston weren't PERCHED in the top 5 female artists of all time then MAYBE your argument would have wings

And even with skin tones, Bey and Rih aren't Mimi

They're ratchet af :dead:
I'm sure white ppl care more about whether or not Bey really has hot sauce in her bag than her skin color TBH

Just nobody of darker color has come along to slay yet IMO

H.#.G.*.Z

Bulldagger

December 04, 2016, 08:07:02 PM #218 Last Edit: December 04, 2016, 08:07:27 PM by Bulldagger
Quote from: K♚NG. on December 04, 2016, 07:55:28 PM
Again how can you say "Where are they? Why aren't they successful?" then proceed to answer your own question. They aren't successful because of that very reason, lack of support. Every girl mentioned in this thread may not be successful selling albums and singles but they are all successful. The mere fact that we are even discussing them proves that fact. No one is selling albums these days. I mean you have all these popular rapper songs who have literally no real hits but are slaying the scene.

The degree of their success is beneath that of their peers and it pales in comparison to the success of the formers. I just want to know why the girls aren't giving a visible slayage is all. Seems odd not to have young female talent gainfully on the rise when the den mother is nearly 40.

Bulldagger

December 04, 2016, 08:09:56 PM #219 Last Edit: December 04, 2016, 08:15:54 PM by Bulldagger
Quote from: BENTLEY. on December 04, 2016, 08:03:08 PM
If Janet Jackson and Whitney Houston weren't PERCHED in the top 5 female artists of all time then MAYBE your argument would have wings

And even with skin tones, Bey and Rih aren't Mimi

They're ratchet af :dead:
I'm sure white ppl care more about whether or not Bey really has hot sauce in her bag than her skin color TBH

Just nobody of darker color has come along to slay yet IMO

What does that have to do with Bey and Rih's success over the last 10 years and the sudden rise of colorism? Was Janet and Whitney relevant 10 years ago? And since when is Janet dark skinned? She's not as light as Bey, but she's a safe tone much like Kerry Washington.

White people are just as openly coloristic as black people are. It was all in Lynch's letter. To the degree it has manifested itself is all white people's fault. Whites are well aware that Beyonce and Rihanna are fair skinned with euro-centric features. I'm around white people all the time and I've seen how they've treated light skin and dark skin people.


Opposites Attract.

Yeah I think colorism plays a part in film/tv but definitely not music.


It's unconditional, these days you know....

Wtv

most will kii, but I just thought Willow has all the elements to really make it.

she just need dope producers constantly, and hit after hit would do the rest.

the only question is if she goes after it or not


Bulldagger

Quote from: K♚NG. on December 04, 2016, 08:16:09 PM
Yeah I think colorism plays a part in film/tv but definitely not music.

Then where is the dark skin version of Bey and Rihanna? 10 years is long enough for one to slay. Why have singers like Sevyn and Kelly Rowland admitted to be looked over due to colorism?