Excerpt from interview with Australian newspaper
QuoteThe singer has been open about her battle with depression, following turmoil in her professional and personal life and a string of setbacks and missed opportunities.
Brandy admitted she renewed her faith in God and focused on daughter Sy?rai, who is about to turn 14 and regularly features singing on her mother?s social media.
?People would never guess the dark space that I was in about a year ago and how long I was sad and depressed. It showed in my physical frame and in my eyes,? Brandy said in 2014.
As part of getting her career and life back on track last year Brandy made her Broadway debut in Chicago, playing Roxie Hart, she and Ray J will appear in the new US celebrity version of My Kitchen Rules. After some disillusionment with the record industry, and the end of some public relationships, she is making a serious return to music this year.
New single Beggin? and Pleadin? was released on her own label, Slayana.
?One of my fans gave me the name ?Slayana?,? Brandy says. ?People always say ?Oh she slayed? someone does a good performance. My middle name is Rayana, so they just added the ?Slay? in. With this new movement of me fighting for my voice and my stance within my life, I?m not really taking anything other than what I deserve.
?I know my value as a person, now, as an artist and I?m owning that. I want to be OK with my gift. I?m not afraid to say no, not afraid to own what belongs to me and what God has given me and share that with others and inspire others. That?s a blessing. I just don?t want to ever forget that?s a part of who I am. There have been times I have forgotten my values and my worth. It?s a different feeling being in this space.?
Beggin? and Pleadin? is far from a guaranteed R & B radio hit in 2016 ? mixing a vintage John Lee Hooker sample with modern ?trap? beats ? a risk which Brandy says is deliberate.
?I?m not a great follower,? she says. ?I was always inspired by the music I should do, when I lost that I started to lose my way as an artist. I wanted to get back into that leadership position within my own life. Sonically I feel like Beggin? and Pleadin? can tell the story I?m trying to tell going forward. It?s blues, with trap beats, and just real music. Real music and speaking to that time when people were not afraid to just follow their gut. That?s what I?m following right now.?
That also means Brandy has no desire to return to a major record, after becoming a victim of politics that saw albums shelved, interfered with or under-promoted.
?I?m all by myself and I like it that way,? she says. ?With major labels, excuse me if this sounds shady, but they?re all shadow artists. They all want to really be the artist, they all tell you exactly what they think you should do. Some people have great intentions, some people don?t.
?Unfortunately I?ve been in contact with people who?ve had the best intentions for themselves, but not for me, so I had to distance myself from people like that and get some balls and move forward and do what I?m lead to do.
?What?s leading me is something that?s bigger than me so I?ve gotta follow that. The great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight. You can be your own publicist, your own label. I?m glad I?ve finally got that. It?s been an expensive lesson I had to pay, but I got it.?
Brandy also promises fans can expect her most honest lyrics to date on her next album, touching on her depression and also her comeback.
?My last experience is one of the greatest stories I have to tell, it was one of the craziest transitions of my life. Coming into my own as woman, fighting depression, coming out of depression into this Broadway girl who realised I was born for theatre and moved to a whole new space where I feel like I can do anything if I put my mind to it, I?m no longer in a box.
?That?s a story that needs to be told and told in the rawest sense. So many people can relate. Even if they can relate in terms of where I am in the end, hopefully some people in the middle can think ?OK, if she can survive it, I can survive my own stuff?. I just want to be an example. I want to be the face of triumph.?
This month she?ll perform what will be, remarkably, her first ever Australian live shows, with a full live band.
?I haven?t been with my band in a minute, this is a fresh new experience,? she says.
?Of course I?ll do all the hits, do the fan favourites, some special tributes. I always do something for Whitney, she was my all time favourite and she was my friend. I might do some Chicago songs. I get to bring my daughter too, which is a blessing. Just know I?m going to bring my A-Game out there. My fans out there have been very patient supporting me. I?ll bring it, believe me.?
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/music/face-of-triumph-brandy-returns-to-music-after-battle-with-depression/news-story/7405eb8e6df41f1ce1eeb2eaec75da78
Best interview I've read from her in a while
You always post the best shit, Clutch. Hope everyone here reads this in its entirety
Queen
The greedy & shady industry + these labels don't deserve an artist like Brandy. They do these artists so dirty.
Lets fckn SEE
this is nice & stuff
I want NEWS though
like about new song/album
Quote from: Yar backwards on June 08, 2016, 12:48:34 PM
this is nice & stuff
I want NEWS though
like about new song/album
!!!
I want tea.
No shade, but I feel like we've heard this so many times before.
very nice article. I want her to open up about the hopefully hundreds of songs she's been recording for the next album tho ...
well, I'm ready for these performances :plea:
Yeah although this was great, it's time to give it to us.
Can't wait. The album of her career is coming
:stressed:
I'm so excited to hear the music
This was beautiful. She's so inspiring. :'(
And I hope y'all dusties read cause y'all STAY trying to put ha in a box.
quit dancing!
Not quites. :blessed:
Australia better show up and show OUT for Bran. Nice read!
I'm sure it's a nice article, but I'm kinda over the while depression thing
I'm ready!!! Wish she'd leave the Chicago stuff out tho.
:overit:
Very nice read. Hoping for more music very soon.
Quote from: LordB on June 08, 2016, 02:02:06 PM
I'm ready!!! Wish she'd leave the Chicago stuff out tho.
:overit:
we might like it if they can incorporate it in a cool way
Brandy fans associate Brandy with that Roxie song, but she's doing a medley. It could be cool
It's random for me, but I'm willing to give it a chance. If it doesn't work then maybe they won't do it on her American tour. No biggie
The best part:
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That also means Brandy has no desire to return to a major record, after becoming a victim of politics that saw albums shelved, interfered with or under-promoted.
?I?m all by myself and I like it that way,? she says. ?With major labels, excuse me if this sounds shady, but they?re all shadow artists. They all want to really be the artist, they all tell you exactly what they think you should do. Some people have great intentions, some people don?t.
?Unfortunately I?ve been in contact with people who?ve had the best intentions for themselves, but not for me, so I had to distance myself from people like that and get some balls and move forward and do what I?m lead to do.
?What?s leading me is something that?s bigger than me so I?ve gotta follow that. The great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight. You can be your own publicist, your own label. I?m glad I?ve finally got that. It?s been an expensive lesson I had to pay, but I got it.?
Brandy also promises fans can expect her most honest lyrics to date on her next album, touching on her depression and also her comeback.
Quote from: Don Draper on June 08, 2016, 01:57:57 PM
I'm sure it's a nice article, but I'm kinda over the while depression thing
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 02:34:31 PM
The best part:
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That also means Brandy has no desire to return to a major record, after becoming a victim of politics that saw albums shelved, interfered with or under-promoted.
?I?m all by myself and I like it that way,? she says. ?With major labels, excuse me if this sounds shady, but they?re all shadow artists. They all want to really be the artist, they all tell you exactly what they think you should do. Some people have great intentions, some people don?t.
?Unfortunately I?ve been in contact with people who?ve had the best intentions for themselves, but not for me, so I had to distance myself from people like that and get some balls and move forward and do what I?m lead to do.
?What?s leading me is something that?s bigger than me so I?ve gotta follow that. The great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight. You can be your own publicist, your own label. I?m glad I?ve finally got that. It?s been an expensive lesson I had to pay, but I got it.?
Brandy also promises fans can expect her most honest lyrics to date on her next album, touching on her depression and also her comeback.
How exciting that Sy'rai gets to go out on tour with her mom! She's gonna have a blast seeing the world and seeing her mom perform for fans all over the world. What a gift to be able to see your mom and hero in that kind of light.
Great interview.
She's going to sing her face off! :stressed:
I'm not mad about her inclusion of "Chicago" material. If anything, it's great cross promo in the event that she does another Broadway stretch.
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 02:32:08 PM
Quote from: LordB on June 08, 2016, 02:02:06 PM
I'm ready!!! Wish she'd leave the Chicago stuff out tho.
:overit:
we might like it if they can incorporate it in a cool way
Brandy fans associate Brandy with that Roxie song, but she's doing a medley. It could be cool
It's random for me, but I'm willing to give it a chance. If it doesn't work then maybe they won't do it on her American tour. No biggie
:udontlookok:
I just feel as though the Jennifer skit, Chicago, and Whitney back to back is gonna make the show feel in-cohesive for lack of a better word.
It's a Brandy concert, Brandy shouldn't have a skit of inspired by someone else and TWO medley's of songs that aren't hers in sequence like that.
loved this
I'm glad that she's open about her struggle with depression. It's immeasurably inspiring.
Quote from: Marilyn on June 08, 2016, 04:34:05 PM
I'm glad that she's open about her struggle with depression. It's immeasurably inspiring.
and for that to be somewhere in the album? I can't wait smh
Her most real.
Well, Bran still gets stage fright, so the skit and stuff like that is a good way to relieve her nerves. I'd like her to do a funny album interlude, but that's just me.
Omg did it say live band?
:stressed:
I think its best to just not expect new music cause u will be disappointed. lol
I kinda hope she goes to another major label eventually honestly cause they pay for the promotion which all artists need. I love her new outlook.
This was a really good read, thanks a lot Clutch!
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.
I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.
I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
well now that she's truly free and independent we'll really be able to see if that holds true
she's been through more than most
Quote from: Angel In Disguise on June 08, 2016, 01:52:32 PM
Australia better show up and show OUT for Bran. Nice read!
All of the shows planned are practically sold out already. It was one venue that had 94 tickets left, one 30 something and the others in single digits. I can't remember which website I was on thought to give receipts but if the site is accurate, she'll have a full house.
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.
I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
well now that she's truly free and independent we'll really be able to see if that holds true
she's been through more than most
we'll see that in about 5 years. That is if she releases an alber' next year and then takes her regular 4 yr break.
Great interview! I'm glad we have confirmation about the label sitch, and now that we know she's independent people can be a bit more realistic in terms of expecting music.
Done seen this like 5 times from Queen
Where's the mess about the music?
I feel like she's gonna throw herself into the acting - especially theater - after the tour. Bran goes through her phases but the fact that she's doing Chicago songs on the road means she's really comfortable in that space.
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.
I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
well now that she's truly free and independent we'll really be able to see if that holds true
she's been through more than most
yh but it's late now.
Quote from: KingDrewLove on June 08, 2016, 05:43:51 PM
Quote from: Angel In Disguise on June 08, 2016, 01:52:32 PM
Australia better show up and show OUT for Bran. Nice read!
All of the shows planned are practically sold out already. It was one venue that had 94 tickets left, one 30 something and the others in single digits. I can't remember which website I was on thought to give receipts but if the site is accurate, she'll have a full house.
woo! GO Brandy
:cheerup:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 08, 2016, 06:43:40 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.
I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
well now that she's truly free and independent we'll really be able to see if that holds true
she's been through more than most
yh but it's late now.
what do you mean by late? genuinely asking
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: Marilyn on June 08, 2016, 04:34:05 PM
I'm glad that she's open about her struggle with depression. It's immeasurably inspiring.
and for that to be somewhere in the album? I can't wait smh
Her most real.
I am excited about that too
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 08, 2016, 06:43:40 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.
I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
well now that she's truly free and independent we'll really be able to see if that holds true
she's been through more than most
yh but it's late now.
what do you mean by late? genuinely asking
I thought the interview was good but I don't like the idea of this be promoted as a "come back", she's been "coming back" for 8 years now - it's late.
Quote from: Jonovan on June 08, 2016, 05:12:02 PM
I think its best to just not expect new music cause u will be disappointed. lol
I kinda hope she goes to another major label eventually honestly cause they pay for the promotion which all artists need. I love her new outlook.
I think she's come too far to go running back to a label now...they don't really pay for promo like that anymore, labels are looking for these buzzing online acts with their own fans nowadays...She's active on Snapchat, Instagram, and has an active Twitter and Facebook page...she promoted herself more than RCA/chameleon ever did...and if she stays independent, she won't have to do a sketchy 360 deal, and won't have to sign over her publishing...
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 08, 2016, 07:01:57 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 08, 2016, 06:43:40 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.
I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
well now that she's truly free and independent we'll really be able to see if that holds true
she's been through more than most
yh but it's late now.
what do you mean by late? genuinely asking
I thought the interview was good but I don't like the idea of this be promoted as a "come back", she's been "coming back" for 8 years now - it's late.
oh I agree
That's more so the media than anything though. I certainly don't view it as a come back because I've never seen or heard her like this before
All labels can do for you is distribute ur project, and they barely do THAT now
Rig, some of these she's been saying since Human.
Like...
I'm starting to feel like there isn't gonna be new music on this tour.
I hope I'm wrong tho.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 08, 2016, 07:08:48 PM
Rig, some of these she's been saying since Human.
Like...
This is true.
Bran been going through these damn metamorphoses for about 10 damn years.
Am tired, sis when are you arriving?
:hmph:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 08, 2016, 07:08:48 PM
Rig, some of these she's been saying since Human.
Like...
yea but its easier for some of us to say
Two eras back to back filled with mess, I know, but it was more than just business, or "oh! Damn! Signed with the wrong label lol Woops". Some personal traumatic shit she went through isn't an every day normal occurrence.
It sucks but the fact that she's even recording music at a high level, is a miracle IMO. Most people on this forum probably couldn't handle what she's been able to handle and function
Quote from: z??? on June 08, 2016, 07:11:40 PM
Bran been going through these damn metamorphoses for about 10 damn years.
Am tired, sis when are you arriving?
:hmph:
shes talking about depression
People don't get over that in a LIFETIME sometimes. Y'all make everything sound so simple. This article wasn't about a comeback and making hits :dead:
I'd love for the narrative to change and for her to discuss other things, though. Talk about the rise more than focusing on the downfalls for sure
Enough. Talk about it in ur music
She need to release an EP soon and drop the album in the fall.
I've read some of these things in past eras and the music never ended up being what was stated in the interviews.
I get things change, but I'm kind of feeling like this is the same old song and dance.
Nice article, and nice to hear that she's not going with a major record label...if that's even what she really meant.
But I've learned to not hold my breath when it comes to things related to Brandy and her music,
No shade, but you can only tell people the same thing so many times before they start to look at you as a broken record. All the broken promises and talk about doing things differently, only to give the same damn mess over & over again gets frustrating. Then on top of that you don't communicate whatsoever when shit doesn't pan out or go as planned.
I'm sorry, but at this point the fans have a right to be frustrated. We've been wondering about this damn EP for like a year and she has yet to say a word.
It's late. I'm over the talking. I want to see action.
Now I give her props for the whole "B&P" movement. I was impressed with how she stepped out of her comfort zone and delivered, but after all this time I need more than just one song.
She pretty much only discussed Begging n pleading and what that song gave. She said the album will be deeper lyrically, more personal, she wants to tell a story, and she's been writing
I didn't see many descriptive lines here other than that :dead: and certainly not any promises in terms of the sound. What same old song and dance are you referring to?
I could see if she started talking about futuristic blah blah blah but I haven't heard her say that kinda stuff in quite a while
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 08, 2016, 07:08:48 PM
Rig, some of these she's been saying since Human.
Like...
yea but its easier for some of us to say
Two eras back to back filled with mess, I know, but it was more than just business, or "oh! Damn! Signed with the wrong label lol Woops". Some personal traumatic shit she went through isn't an every day normal occurrence.
It sucks but the fact that she's even recording music at a high level, is a miracle IMO. Most people on this forum probably couldn't handle what she's been able to handle and function
You don't know what some these artist have been through. Beyonce had a damn miscarriage and we didn't even know. Kesha was allegedly getting Ike Turner'd and she kept on ticking.
The "raising phoenix" thing made sense with Human cause she was coming back of a very traumatic time. Okay, but four years later with Two Eleven it's "i'm just happy to here", now it's "i finally found myself"
n
chile.
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.
I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 08, 2016, 07:22:21 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 08, 2016, 07:08:48 PM
Rig, some of these she's been saying since Human.
Like...
yea but its easier for some of us to say
Two eras back to back filled with mess, I know, but it was more than just business, or "oh! Damn! Signed with the wrong label lol Woops". Some personal traumatic shit she went through isn't an every day normal occurrence.
It sucks but the fact that she's even recording music at a high level, is a miracle IMO. Most people on this forum probably couldn't handle what she's been able to handle and function
You don't know what some these artist have been through. Beyonce had a damn miscarriage and we didn't even know. Kesha was allegedly getting Ike Turner'd and she kept on ticking.
Comparing traumatic experiences is just wrong, period.
Is Brandy not still here and "kicking"? Are you kidding :dead: she's about to TOUR. everything isn't perfect and there are plenty of things she could be doing better, but ch ...
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
She pretty much only discussed Begging n pleading and what that song gave. She said the album will be deeper lyrically, more personal, she wants to tell a story, and she's been writing
I didn't see many descriptive lines here other than that :dead: and certainly not any promises in terms of the sound. What same old song and dance are you referring to?
Boy, your optimism is cute...but no!
We have heard this all before. She has promised that 2/11 would be her most personal album to date...and half the songs she wouldn't sing live because they were too sexual.
QuoteThe great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight.
Honestly, when has she actually done that? They barely announce where and when she performs.
The interviews have been sounding the same since before Human dropped...it's going on 8 years. I'm sorry, but Brandy has to do something else. Her visuals don't excite, her music takes forever to release and in-between there are no consistent announcements about what is to come. Her saving grace is her vocal talent...that's what the fans need. That is the only consistent thing about Brandy the musician/artist.
It would be a lot more fake of her to come out and talk as if she's over the depression and everything is all good, as if life isn't a Daily battle
Do you y'all want her to relate to people or continue lying her whole career? Her problems and depression should just end with the human era :dead: I wish life worked like that. n
i want a slice of red velvet cake but that neither here nor there.
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
She pretty much only discussed Begging n pleading and what that song gave. She said the album will be deeper lyrically, more personal, she wants to tell a story, and she's been writing
I didn't see many descriptive lines here other than that :dead: and certainly not any promises in terms of the sound. What same old song and dance are you referring to?
Boy, your optimism is cute...but no!
We have heard this all before. She has promised that 2/11 would be her most personal album to date...and half the songs she wouldn't sing live because they were too sexual.
QuoteThe great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight.
Honestly, when has she actually done that? They barely announce where and when she performs.
The interviews have been sounding the same since before Human dropped...it's going on 8 years. I'm sorry, but Brandy has to do something else. Her visuals don't excite, her music takes forever to release and in-between there are no consistent announcements about what is to come. Her saving grace is her vocal talent...that's what the fans need. That is the only consistent thing about Brandy the musician/artist.
its not optimism it's just the facts. She said 2/11 would be a lot more fun than the previous album and it was. I don't remember her saying it would be her most personal
That era was a mess, and she shook hands with the devil yet again :dead: and I'm aware of that. I'm literally not disputing anything Else you've said in that post
:dead: ur just rambling about what we all already know. I've never sat up here a day in my life and called her a great business woman. I wouldn't even lie to her face and say that :dead:
I just fail to see where she described what her music would be like in this article, as you pointed out :kii: if anything, my issue is that she said not much at all :dead:
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.
I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
but yes, she tends to repeat herself a lot in interview or "professional" settings
That's why snapchat is a blessing. U wanna hear the real deal then I suggest y'all follow her on there :dead: she's almost a little too honest (as some have complained about)
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
She pretty much only discussed Begging n pleading and what that song gave. She said the album will be deeper lyrically, more personal, she wants to tell a story, and she's been writing
I didn't see many descriptive lines here other than that :dead: and certainly not any promises in terms of the sound. What same old song and dance are you referring to?
Boy, your optimism is cute...but no!
We have heard this all before. She has promised that 2/11 would be her most personal album to date...and half the songs she wouldn't sing live because they were too sexual.
QuoteThe great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight.
Honestly, when has she actually done that? They barely announce where and when she performs.
The interviews have been sounding the same since before Human dropped...it's going on 8 years. I'm sorry, but Brandy has to do something else. Her visuals don't excite, her music takes forever to release and in-between there are no consistent announcements about what is to come. Her saving grace is her vocal talent...that's what the fans need. That is the only consistent thing about Brandy the musician/artist.
its not optimism it's just the facts. She said 2/11 would be a lot more fun than the previous album and it was. I don't remember her saying it would be her most personal
That era was a mess, and she shook hands with the devil yet again :dead: and I'm aware of that. I'm literally not disputing anything Else you've said in that post
:dead: ur just rambling about what we all already know. I've never sat up here a day in my life and called her a great business woman. I wouldn't even lie to her face and say that :dead:
I just fail to see where she described what her music would be like in this article, as you pointed out :kii: if anything, my issue is that she said not much at all :dead:
Did you not ask what I was referring to? :uhh: :plzstop: Then when I tell you, you say I'm rambling...boy.
Like I said, you can pretty line up most of her interviews for the past 10 years and get the same information.
As a fan, it is not my role to decipher what business deals she signed or who she shook hands with. As a fan, what I care about is the product and how it is delivered. People have started and finished college in between Brandy eras. People have finished middle school and high school in between Brandy eras. Life changes but somehow her interviews don't. :plzstop:
I just want some new music. It's kinda fucked up that this label situation with Chameleon seems to be stalling ha a bit. I hope it all can get put to rest soon. Bran ain't getting any younger so these 4 yrs breaks ain't cute no more.
And I realized in the article she didn't mention performing new songs like we had thought. Hmmm
QuoteBrandy also promises fans can expect her most honest lyrics to date on her next album, touching on her depression and also her comeback.
?My last experience is one of the greatest stories I have to tell, it was one of the craziest transitions of my life. Coming into my own as woman, fighting depression, coming out of depression into this Broadway girl who realised I was born for theatre and moved to a whole new space where I feel like I can do anything if I put my mind to it, I?m no longer in a box.
?That?s a story that needs to be told and told in the rawest sense. So many people can relate. Even if they can relate in terms of where I am in the end, hopefully some people in the middle can think ?OK, if she can survive it, I can survive my own stuff?. I just want to be an example. I want to be the face of triumph.?
We'll see.
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She pretty much only discussed Begging n pleading and what that song gave. She said the album will be deeper lyrically, more personal, she wants to tell a story, and she's been writing
I didn't see many descriptive lines here other than that :dead: and certainly not any promises in terms of the sound. What same old song and dance are you referring to?
Boy, your optimism is cute...but no!
We have heard this all before. She has promised that 2/11 would be her most personal album to date...and half the songs she wouldn't sing live because they were too sexual.
QuoteThe great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight.
Honestly, when has she actually done that? They barely announce where and when she performs.
The interviews have been sounding the same since before Human dropped...it's going on 8 years. I'm sorry, but Brandy has to do something else. Her visuals don't excite, her music takes forever to release and in-between there are no consistent announcements about what is to come. Her saving grace is her vocal talent...that's what the fans need. That is the only consistent thing about Brandy the musician/artist.
its not optimism it's just the facts. She said 2/11 would be a lot more fun than the previous album and it was. I don't remember her saying it would be her most personal
That era was a mess, and she shook hands with the devil yet again :dead: and I'm aware of that. I'm literally not disputing anything Else you've said in that post
:dead: ur just rambling about what we all already know. I've never sat up here a day in my life and called her a great business woman. I wouldn't even lie to her face and say that :dead:
I just fail to see where she described what her music would be like in this article, as you pointed out :kii: if anything, my issue is that she said not much at all :dead:
Did you not ask what I was referring to? :uhh: :plzstop: Then when I tell you, you say I'm rambling...boy.
Like I said, you can pretty line up most of her interviews for the past 10 years and get the same information.
As a fan, it is not my role to decipher what business deals she signed or who she shook hands with. As a fan, what I care about is the product and how it is delivered. People have started and finished college in between Brandy eras. People have finished middle school and high school in between Brandy eras. Life changes but somehow her interviews don't. :plzstop:
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So if all u care about is the product, then why do interviews matter? A lot of girls are repetitive in these transcripted interviews
We ALL just want consistent music released and some good visuals. n
That's really all it comes down to. Repetitive interview or not
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.
I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
but yes, she tends to repeat herself a lot in interview or "professional" settings
That's why snapchat is a blessing. U wanna hear the real deal then I suggest y'all follow her on there :dead: she's almost a little too honest (as some have complained about)
Does that not sound like "same old song and dance"? :shannonsmissing:
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.
I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
but yes, she tends to repeat herself a lot in interview or "professional" settings
That's why snapchat is a blessing. U wanna hear the real deal then I suggest y'all follow her on there :dead: she's almost a little too honest (as some have complained about)
Does that not sound like "same old song and dance"? :shannonsmissing:
no
Cuz u were talking about your inability to believe what she says when she discusses her music. That's what I hopped in ur quotes about
She delivered exactly what she said she would and MORE with "Beggin and pleadin"
That's all it took for me to believe. If y'all don't hear and see the difference with that ...
Bran been telling these same damn story ever since 2000
and fckn 7...
Like Chris brown had his down phase and came back for good. Britney too, Rih too.
Bran apparently digs one whole after the other I just don't understand why she never feels confident and comfortable enough to just come back and STAY....
I feel like if she doesn't go quadruple platinum she's already like "ack failure! Flopped! Need to go hiding, break from
Music!"
How about you just keep trying, Hun? Pump out more songs, actually shoot PROPER videos...
Ugh it doesn't really matter just don't see it for this pointless defending.
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She pretty much only discussed Begging n pleading and what that song gave. She said the album will be deeper lyrically, more personal, she wants to tell a story, and she's been writing
I didn't see many descriptive lines here other than that :dead: and certainly not any promises in terms of the sound. What same old song and dance are you referring to?
Boy, your optimism is cute...but no!
We have heard this all before. She has promised that 2/11 would be her most personal album to date...and half the songs she wouldn't sing live because they were too sexual.
QuoteThe great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight.
Honestly, when has she actually done that? They barely announce where and when she performs.
The interviews have been sounding the same since before Human dropped...it's going on 8 years. I'm sorry, but Brandy has to do something else. Her visuals don't excite, her music takes forever to release and in-between there are no consistent announcements about what is to come. Her saving grace is her vocal talent...that's what the fans need. That is the only consistent thing about Brandy the musician/artist.
its not optimism it's just the facts. She said 2/11 would be a lot more fun than the previous album and it was. I don't remember her saying it would be her most personal
That era was a mess, and she shook hands with the devil yet again :dead: and I'm aware of that. I'm literally not disputing anything Else you've said in that post
:dead: ur just rambling about what we all already know. I've never sat up here a day in my life and called her a great business woman. I wouldn't even lie to her face and say that :dead:
I just fail to see where she described what her music would be like in this article, as you pointed out :kii: if anything, my issue is that she said not much at all :dead:
Did you not ask what I was referring to? :uhh: :plzstop: Then when I tell you, you say I'm rambling...boy.
Like I said, you can pretty line up most of her interviews for the past 10 years and get the same information.
As a fan, it is not my role to decipher what business deals she signed or who she shook hands with. As a fan, what I care about is the product and how it is delivered. People have started and finished college in between Brandy eras. People have finished middle school and high school in between Brandy eras. Life changes but somehow her interviews don't. :plzstop:
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So if all u care about is the product, then why do interviews matter? A lot of girls are repetitive in these transcripted interviews
We ALL just want consistent music released and some good visuals. n
That's really all it comes down to. Repetitive interview or not
I can't. :kii:
The whole point was these repetitive interviews. You questioned the interviews being repetitive and then gave all these "behind the scenes" excuses. And now you agree the interviews are repetitive.
All I did was point out some fallacies in the things she stated in the interview.
But I'm going to stop because people can't give their opinions around here. I forgot we must all operate on groupthink.
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.
I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
but yes, she tends to repeat herself a lot in interview or "professional" settings
That's why snapchat is a blessing. U wanna hear the real deal then I suggest y'all follow her on there :dead: she's almost a little too honest (as some have complained about)
Does that not sound like "same old song and dance"? :shannonsmissing:
no
Cuz u were talking about your inability to believe what she says when she discusses her music. That's what I hopped in ur quotes about
She delivered exactly what she said she would and MORE with "Beggin and pleadin"
That's all it took for me to believe. If y'all don't hear and see the difference with that ...
So a person could tell half truths for 10 years.
Then make one promise and deliver on it.
We are supposed to then believe everything.
Faith! Mustard seed! :feelinmyself:
Chris brown and Britney are a fucking mess
One releases the same song over and over and constantly has online meltdowns, and one is a damn robot who needs new batteries to order herself some food.
Horrible comparison. Brandy hasn't taken a break since TwoEleven. We just haven't received music consistently because of yet another POOR business move, unfortunately
Quote from: clutch on June 08, 2016, 12:26:41 PM
Excerpt from interview with Australian newspaper
QuoteThe singer has been open about her battle with depression, following turmoil in her professional and personal life and a string of setbacks and missed opportunities.
Brandy admitted she renewed her faith in God and focused on daughter Sy?rai, who is about to turn 14 and regularly features singing on her mother?s social media.
?People would never guess the dark space that I was in about a year ago and how long I was sad and depressed. It showed in my physical frame and in my eyes,? Brandy said in 2014.
As part of getting her career and life back on track last year Brandy made her Broadway debut in Chicago, playing Roxie Hart, she and Ray J will appear in the new US celebrity version of My Kitchen Rules. After some disillusionment with the record industry, and the end of some public relationships, she is making a serious return to music this year.
New single Beggin? and Pleadin? was released on her own label, Slayana.
?One of my fans gave me the name ?Slayana?,? Brandy says. ?People always say ?Oh she slayed? someone does a good performance. My middle name is Rayana, so they just added the ?Slay? in. With this new movement of me fighting for my voice and my stance within my life, I?m not really taking anything other than what I deserve.
?I know my value as a person, now, as an artist and I?m owning that. I want to be OK with my gift. I?m not afraid to say no, not afraid to own what belongs to me and what God has given me and share that with others and inspire others. That?s a blessing. I just don?t want to ever forget that?s a part of who I am. There have been times I have forgotten my values and my worth. It?s a different feeling being in this space.?
Beggin? and Pleadin? is far from a guaranteed R & B radio hit in 2016 ? mixing a vintage John Lee Hooker sample with modern ?trap? beats ? a risk which Brandy says is deliberate.
?I?m not a great follower,? she says. ?I was always inspired by the music I should do, when I lost that I started to lose my way as an artist. I wanted to get back into that leadership position within my own life. Sonically I feel like Beggin? and Pleadin? can tell the story I?m trying to tell going forward. It?s blues, with trap beats, and just real music. Real music and speaking to that time when people were not afraid to just follow their gut. That?s what I?m following right now.?
That also means Brandy has no desire to return to a major record, after becoming a victim of politics that saw albums shelved, interfered with or under-promoted.
?I?m all by myself and I like it that way,? she says. ?With major labels, excuse me if this sounds shady, but they?re all shadow artists. They all want to really be the artist, they all tell you exactly what they think you should do. Some people have great intentions, some people don?t.
?Unfortunately I?ve been in contact with people who?ve had the best intentions for themselves, but not for me, so I had to distance myself from people like that and get some balls and move forward and do what I?m lead to do.
?What?s leading me is something that?s bigger than me so I?ve gotta follow that. The great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight. You can be your own publicist, your own label. I?m glad I?ve finally got that. It?s been an expensive lesson I had to pay, but I got it.?
Brandy also promises fans can expect her most honest lyrics to date on her next album, touching on her depression and also her comeback.
?My last experience is one of the greatest stories I have to tell, it was one of the craziest transitions of my life. Coming into my own as woman, fighting depression, coming out of depression into this Broadway girl who realised I was born for theatre and moved to a whole new space where I feel like I can do anything if I put my mind to it, I?m no longer in a box.
?That?s a story that needs to be told and told in the rawest sense. So many people can relate. Even if they can relate in terms of where I am in the end, hopefully some people in the middle can think ?OK, if she can survive it, I can survive my own stuff?. I just want to be an example. I want to be the face of triumph.?
This month she?ll perform what will be, remarkably, her first ever Australian live shows, with a full live band.
?I haven?t been with my band in a minute, this is a fresh new experience,? she says.
?Of course I?ll do all the hits, do the fan favourites, some special tributes. I always do something for Whitney, she was my all time favourite and she was my friend. I might do some Chicago songs. I get to bring my daughter too, which is a blessing. Just know I?m going to bring my A-Game out there. My fans out there have been very patient supporting me. I?ll bring it, believe me.?
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/music/face-of-triumph-brandy-returns-to-music-after-battle-with-depression/news-story/7405eb8e6df41f1ce1eeb2eaec75da78
Bitch :plzstop: :stressed:
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:50:38 PM
Chris brown and Britney are a fucking mess
One releases the same song over and over and constantly has online meltdowns, and one is a damn robot who needs new batteries to order herself some food.
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.
I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
I can absolutely agree with this. Put all of this newness into your music, performances, videos, etc. I'm hoping to be blown away by this tour.
Quote from: z??? on June 08, 2016, 07:47:19 PM
I feel like if she doesn't go quadruple platinum she's already like "ack failure! Flopped! Need to go hiding, break from
Music!"
I kind of sensed that when India.Arie was telling her how she gets it about the whole trying things and them not working out. I could be wrong, but it appeared Silent leaned in with something along the lines of its not all about sales but impact and she kinda shrugged it off.
:pourup:
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.
I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
but yes, she tends to repeat herself a lot in interview or "professional" settings
That's why snapchat is a blessing. U wanna hear the real deal then I suggest y'all follow her on there :dead: she's almost a little too honest (as some have complained about)
Does that not sound like "same old song and dance"? :shannonsmissing:
no
Cuz u were talking about your inability to believe what she says when she discusses her music. That's what I hopped in ur quotes about
She delivered exactly what she said she would and MORE with "Beggin and pleadin"
That's all it took for me to believe. If y'all don't hear and see the difference with that ...
So a person could tell half truths for 10 years.
Then make one promise and deliver on it.
We are supposed to then believe everything.
Faith! Mustard seed!
:feelinmyself:
Not at all. Believe what you'd like
I just see a clear difference. I'm not concerned with the interviews when I can actually SEE and hear it
If anything, She's been in hot water for being too honest lately and completely open like we've never seen :kii: why would i focus on a basic phone interview with the Australian press?
This interview wasn't done for the general public or for her core fans that follow every move. They asked general basic ass questions I'm sure
But like Malc said, this is all pointless. We all would like the same things. Consistent quality
She has yet to deliver in terms of consistency
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.
I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
I can absolutely agree with this. Put all of this newness into your music, performances, videos, etc. I'm hoping to be blown away by this tour.
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
I'm referring to her "being in this new space" and being a "different" person now. She's been saying stuff like this, and it's no shade because I love Bran. I want her to be the best her, but I'm ready to SEE it and not just hear about it.
I'm ready to cheer her the fuck on.
but yes, she tends to repeat herself a lot in interview or "professional" settings
That's why snapchat is a blessing. U wanna hear the real deal then I suggest y'all follow her on there :dead: she's almost a little too honest (as some have complained about)
Does that not sound like "same old song and dance"? :shannonsmissing:
no
Cuz u were talking about your inability to believe what she says when she discusses her music. That's what I hopped in ur quotes about
She delivered exactly what she said she would and MORE with "Beggin and pleadin"
That's all it took for me to believe. If y'all don't hear and see the difference with that ...
So a person could tell half truths for 10 years.
Then make one promise and deliver on it.
We are supposed to then believe everything.
Faith! Mustard seed!
:feelinmyself:
Not at all. Believe what you'd like
I just see a clear difference. I'm not concerned with the interviews when I can actually SEE and hear it
If anything, She's been in hot water for being too honest lately and completely open like we've never seen :kii: why would i focus on a basic phone interview with the Australian press?
This interview wasn't done for the general public or for her core fans that follow every move. They asked general basic ass questions I'm sure
But like Malc said, this is all pointless. We all would like the same things. Consistent quality
She has yet to deliver in terms of consistency
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Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.
I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
well now that she's truly free and independent we'll really be able to see if that holds true
she's been through more than most
Meh
Someone said something similar back in 2010.
It's always something.
I can relate to setbacks.
But I feel like there's always something major/new that happens the leads her back to depression each era. Nothing to be faulted for or anything. It just is.
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Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like she's always fighting back each era.
Coming back from some dark place.
I would love for her to find some stabilization within herself and slay through and build the momentum.
well now that she's truly free and independent we'll really be able to see if that holds true
she's been through more than most
Meh
Someone said something similar back in 2010.
It's always something.
I can relate to setbacks.
But I feel like there's always something major/new that happens the leads her back to depression each era. Nothing to be faulted for or anything. It just is.
Yea life can be pretty brutal :dead: glad she's still pushing and I hope she puts it all into her writing and music
Beggin' is a great start
Rig you swore up
And down you felt that difference with iabtm
And two e' era...
Your radar cannot be trusted tbh....
Two eleven was human all over again in so many ways.
If it's one thing I'm sick about almost as much as "Devine timing" it's her "I've finally found who I am, and I wasn't myself before" rhetoric...
And Rig,
I understand depression. I get it. It's real. Trust me. I'm speaking from a place of understanding......
But I'm really saying is that...
There comes a point where you stabilize, and even when there's setbacks, you have the mental strength to not fall back into the same habits and you remind yourself you're on a journey. I'm waiting for that moment. Cause each era it sounds like she just came out of depression again. Which means, she never left it or gained the skills necessary to PUSH through even when things are going completely wrong.
Shit like #Summer2014 or "I'm just happy that there IS going to be a third single" really could get me all steamed AHP.
:wheresmylawyer:
We've been hearing this shit since FULL MOON :plzstop:
Every era cannot be...or atleast shouldn't be "recovery from depression"
I'm just saying.
And I'm not saying that BRANDY is not ALLOWED to be depressed by life's ups and downs...
I'm just saying... I'm living for the DAY when she stabilizes... whether things are going WELL or NOT...
Cause life is not going to be fabulous all the time, there will be setbacks... but you don't always have to fall back into old habits that are reminiscent of depression, once you have the tools you need to combat those situations.
And the thing is Brandy is not open either. She is very phony, PC, and guarded in most of the interviews.
But still lets you know she's going through dark times, suffering. Sis, either suck it up and let us not feel your struggle or share what ya going through and live more candidly...
She never just SPILLS in an interview or relaxes and unwinds and just tells something like it is. Always this interview persona...
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 07:59:53 PM
And Rig,
I understand depression. I get it. It's real. Trust me. I'm speaking from a place of understanding......
But I'm really saying is that...
There comes a point where you stabilize, and even when there's setbacks, you have the mental strength to not fall back into the same habits and you remind yourself you're on a journey. I'm waiting for that moment. Cause each era it sounds like she just came out of depression again. Which means, she never left it or gained the skills necessary to PUSH through even when things are going completely wrong.
Well she always discusses affirmations. Sometimes you have to say things to yourself as many times as it takes until you actually begin to believe it
I don't know the inner workings of her mental state or life, so I'd never go that far, but I do think with TwoEleven she was pretty close to getting on good track.
It's a weird conversation to have though, because we could never know how someone should deal with their own personal depression. It's different for everyone. Every human is different
There's no one way to do anything and certainly not a set timeline for it. Just praying for her and hoping for the best! Excited for her tour and whatever happens, happens.
Doesn't sound like most of the forum has high expectations so most should be fine
Quote from: z??? on June 08, 2016, 08:07:36 PM
And the thing is Brandy is not open either. She is very phony, PC, and guarded in most of the interviews.
But still lets you know she's going through dark times, suffering. Sis, either suck it up and let us not feel your struggle it share what ya going through and live more candidly...
She never just SPILLS in an interview if relaxes and unwinds and just tells something like it is. Always this interview persona...
You might like this recent one
#prayforBrandy
sis said she don't need our prayers, cuz she good! :plea: :roflmao:
In a lot of ways, I am where I am in life due to Brandy and what she's been through.
There's times something major happens, or a situation takes place where it can easily throw me off...
I've said, wait - if Bran can still SLAY the scene, bitch I'ma keep doing me.
So there's treasure to be found in what she's been through... and her sharing her story is helpful.
And now that I'm really focused and I'm come across many obstacles (no i'm a not star, but we all have our own battles) I'm still able to honor any setbacks without falling into a deep rut or shutting down. It wasn't always that way. So I'm just waiting for Bran to get to that point.
Lol
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 08:03:15 PM
We've been hearing this shit since FULL MOON :plzstop:
depression can reoccur and in some cases can be a life long struggle :shannonsmissing:
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: ? on June 08, 2016, 07:59:53 PM
And Rig,
I understand depression. I get it. It's real. Trust me. I'm speaking from a place of understanding......
But I'm really saying is that...
There comes a point where you stabilize, and even when there's setbacks, you have the mental strength to not fall back into the same habits and you remind yourself you're on a journey. I'm waiting for that moment. Cause each era it sounds like she just came out of depression again. Which means, she never left it or gained the skills necessary to PUSH through even when things are going completely wrong.
Well she always discusses affirmations. Sometimes you have to say things to yourself as many times as it takes until you actually begin to believe it
I don't know the inner workings of her mental state or life, so I'd never go that far, but I do think with TwoEleven she was pretty close to getting on good track.
It's a weird conversation to have though, because we could never know how someone should deal with their own personal depression. It's different for everyone. Every human is different
There's no one way to do anything and certainly not a set timeline for it. Just praying for her and hoping for the best! Excited for her tour and whatever happens, happens.
Doesn't sound like most of the forum has high expectations so most should be fine
In no way am I telling Brandy HOW she should get through.
I'm just saying... I'M WAITING FOR... the day she finally finds PEACE throughout the GOOD or BAD days. Period. Isn't that we all strive for? Cause life WILL ALWAYS be UP and DOWN.
And yes, I have no expectations of Brandy anymore. It even leaked into the music. I want to say seeing her on Broadway left me content. But I'm at the point if Brandy doesn't release anything until 2026, then so be it. She has her life to live.
Quote from: Jonovan on June 08, 2016, 08:14:36 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 08:03:15 PM
We've been hearing this shit since FULL MOON :plzstop:
depression can reoccur and in some cases can be a life long struggle :shannonsmissing:
!!!!!!!
starting to question some people
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Quote from: Jonovan on June 08, 2016, 08:14:36 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 08:03:15 PM
We've been hearing this shit since FULL MOON :plzstop:
depression can reoccur and in some cases can be a life long struggle :shannonsmissing:
We've been hearing this shit since FULL MOON.
I never said that it couldn't. I just said we hear this just about every 4 years from her. Every 4 years she comes out of depression and finds herself.
I never said it was right or wrong. Only that we've been hearing this since FULL MOON.
Whatever Brandy has gone through or is going through is nothing to be faulted for.
We love her, we support her and will continue to do so.
Gorl shut up
You guys really don't have faith in Quee'
Eek
Honestly, I'm even at the point that whatever finds her PEACE... even if that meant not getting another album ... I would rather that. As crazy as that is. I just want HER to be at peace. Depression is not fun or something I wish on anyone I care about or admire.
:stressed:
All repetitive interviews aside,
Brandy will come out on top because she isn't a quitter.
She continues to push herself, even in the midst of a storm.
She will serve the purpose that she feels she has in the world and the industry.
Her Star power cannot be denied.
The fact that she can still release albums is a testament to that
Because most of the big acts during her prime
Are nowhere to be found.
#prayforBrandy
#ICON
#Star
#inthesestreets
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 08:10:28 PM
Quote from: z??? on June 08, 2016, 08:07:36 PM
And the thing is Brandy is not open either. She is very phony, PC, and guarded in most of the interviews.
But still lets you know she's going through dark times, suffering. Sis, either suck it up and let us not feel your struggle it share what ya going through and live more candidly...
She never just SPILLS in an interview if relaxes and unwinds and just tells something like it is. Always this interview persona...
You might like this recent one
gggggggg !!!!
I don't know if I can agree w: Malc on that. She's been very open in her recent interviews.
https://soundcloud.com/billboard/soul-sisters-podcast-brandy
:wub:
#loveforBrandy
Brandy is goin WIN guys, she going to WIN!!!
Quote from: Harlem on June 08, 2016, 08:31:04 PM
Brandy is goin WIN guys, she going to WIN!!!
She already WON in my opinion.
We all know why Brandy was depressed: the breakup with Ryan. And we really can't expect her to SPILL the details. After what happened with Robert Smith where she spilled too much tea, musically and during interviews, she's learned to be more tactful when discussing those issues.
Honestly, I'm not too optimistic about the tour cause I kinda feel like it'll be reminiscent of her 2/11 shows but like Rig said, let's just wait and see first when she performs before we have an opinion. I know we're all a bit anxious and frustrated due to some of the setbacks with music but what to do. We're just gonna have to 'wait and see'.
Quote from: Francois Lite on June 08, 2016, 08:58:12 PM
We all know why Brandy was depressed: the breakup with Ryan. And we really can't expect her to SPILL the details. After what happened with Robert Smith where she spilled too much tea, musically and during interviews, she's learned to be more tactful when discussing those issues.
I never realized this. Great point.
I love her vulnerability.
:omgwatshappening: who said Bran was phony? umm...
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
She pretty much only discussed Begging n pleading and what that song gave. She said the album will be deeper lyrically, more personal, she wants to tell a story, and she's been writing
I didn't see many descriptive lines here other than that :dead: and certainly not any promises in terms of the sound. What same old song and dance are you referring to?
Boy, your optimism is cute...but no!
We have heard this all before. She has promised that 2/11 would be her most personal album to date...and half the songs she wouldn't sing live because they were too sexual.
QuoteThe great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight.
Honestly, when has she actually done that? They barely announce where and when she performs.
The interviews have been sounding the same since before Human dropped...it's going on 8 years. I'm sorry, but Brandy has to do something else. Her visuals don't excite, her music takes forever to release and in-between there are no consistent announcements about what is to come. Her saving grace is her vocal talent...that's what the fans need. That is the only consistent thing about Brandy the musician/artist.
:dead:
aren't you one of the main ones on here always complaining about fans being negative? This is new.
:dead:
Quote from: Jonovan on June 08, 2016, 08:14:36 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 08:03:15 PM
We've been hearing this shit since FULL MOON :plzstop:
depression can reoccur and in some cases can be a life long struggle :shannonsmissing:
!!!
"stop being sad!"
y'all sound kinda ridiculous. depression isn't a phase or trend.
Quote from: Francois Lite on June 08, 2016, 08:58:12 PM
We all know why Brandy was depressed: the breakup with Ryan. And we really can't expect her to SPILL the details. After what happened with Robert Smith where she spilled too much tea, musically and during interviews, she's learned to be more tactful when discussing those issues.
Honestly, I'm not too optimistic about the tour cause I kinda feel like it'll be reminiscent of her 2/11 shows but like Rig said, let's just wait and see first when she performs before we have an opinion. I know we're all a bit anxious and frustrated due to some of the setbacks with music but what to do. We're just gonna have to 'wait and see'.
:wub:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 08, 2016, 10:38:20 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
She pretty much only discussed Begging n pleading and what that song gave. She said the album will be deeper lyrically, more personal, she wants to tell a story, and she's been writing
I didn't see many descriptive lines here other than that :dead: and certainly not any promises in terms of the sound. What same old song and dance are you referring to?
Boy, your optimism is cute...but no!
We have heard this all before. She has promised that 2/11 would be her most personal album to date...and half the songs she wouldn't sing live because they were too sexual.
QuoteThe great thing about social media is you can connect right to your foundation of fans, let them know music is on the way. Stay up, I might drop something at midnight.
Honestly, when has she actually done that? They barely announce where and when she performs.
The interviews have been sounding the same since before Human dropped...it's going on 8 years. I'm sorry, but Brandy has to do something else. Her visuals don't excite, her music takes forever to release and in-between there are no consistent announcements about what is to come. Her saving grace is her vocal talent...that's what the fans need. That is the only consistent thing about Brandy the musician/artist.
:dead:
aren't you one of the main ones on here always complaining about fans being negative? This is new.
Was I negative?
I don't feel I was.
I feel I'm very objective when it comes to Brandy.
There are those on here who say nothing but negative things or voice complaints about unrealistic expectations...like an album or EP being released in the midst of a legal battle over a recording contract.
I don't think it's unreasonable to say that just about all of her interviews are the same. I don't think it's necessarily negative either.
The fact that you say "this is new"
Only further proves the point that I'm objective.
d
:plzstop:
When did I say Brandy's depression(s) wasn't real or that she should get over it?
I only said that when she returns with an album, depression is always the focus in the promo/interviews...or at least it has been since FULL MOON. Which was supported by the Oprah interview I posted.
Everybody wants to quote that.
But not once has anybody quoted the completely positive comment I posted in this thread.
It's not my fault if yall wish to focus on what you deem "negative."
#prayfortheStarz
#cuzBrandydontneedtheprayer
#musiccoming
#DivineTiming
#SlayanaTour
#inthesestreets
It's kind of weird to say Brandy is phony, when she's being candid about depression. It's kinda hard for those two things to co-exist. She's honest, and I wish she was a tad bit more phony when it comes to that.
All the emotional stuff I want to see put into the music and that's it. Unless it's some big network interview, I wish she kept it a lil lighter. I love Iyanlady, but she's only impactful in doses (like with most depressing/inspirational things). People get bored with that stuff easily.
Queen always struck me as the girl who needs a hug every now and again. I think she expects hugs from the general public from telling her story but we aren't a empathetic society. People want your products and services, if it ain't messy nobody really cares. Her fans know her battles, and I think the more seasoned ones understand that Brandy's insecurities run deeper than a few albums. She's always gonna battle that to some level....and that's okay because that makes her inspirational.
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 08:26:57 PM
All repetitive interviews aside,
Brandy will come out on top because she isn't a quitter.
She continues to push herself, even in the midst of a storm.
She will serve the purpose that she feels she has in the world and the industry.
Her Star power cannot be denied.
The fact that she can still release albums is a testament to that
Because most of the big acts during her prime
Are nowhere to be found.
#prayforBrandy
#ICON
#Star
#inthesestreets
I know that's right! :gotchafag:
:blessed:
n
f
Dumb fags
You don't just "get over" depression like that.
I've never been one to coddle Brandy but lately y'all just attack her over any damn thing and it's late.
:omgwatshappening:
Lash tf OWT then Drais :ohwow:
The fact that Bran's still in her right mind after all she's been through is amazing honestly.
Even I get pissed off sometimes about the lack of new music, but you gurs are outta fckn control.
Quote from: Drais. on June 08, 2016, 11:11:19 PM
Dumb fags
You don't just "get over" depression like that.
I've never been one to coddle Brandy but lately y'all just attack her over any damn thing and it's late.
Quote from: brocka4life on June 08, 2016, 08:11:10 PM
#prayforBrandy
sis said she don't need our prayers, cuz she good! :plea: :roflmao:
that pissed me tf off when she said that tbh :uhh:
Quote from: Drais. on June 09, 2016, 12:02:54 AM
The fact that Bran's still in her right mind after all she's been through is amazing honestly.
Even I get pissed off sometimes about the lack of new music, but you gurs are outta fckn control.
yea....
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on June 08, 2016, 11:05:55 PM
It's kind of weird to say Brandy is phony, when she's being candid about depression. It's kinda hard for those two things to co-exist. She's honest, and I wish she was a tad bit more phony when it comes to that.
All the emotional stuff I want to see put into the music and that's it. Unless it's some big network interview, I wish she kept it a lil lighter. I love Iyanlady, but she's only impactful in doses (like with most depressing/inspirational things). People get bored with that stuff easily.
Queen always struck me as the girl who needs a hug every now and again. I think she expects hugs from the general public from telling her story but we aren't a empathetic society. People want your products and services, if it ain't messy nobody really cares. Her fans know her battles, and I think the more seasoned ones understand that Brandy's insecurities run deeper than a few albums. She's always gonna battle that to some level....and that's okay because that makes her inspirational.
wait though. Good point.
So if Brandy's an independent artist with no label support, who do y'all think is financing this tour?
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:50:38 PM
Chris brown and Britney are a fucking mess
One releases the same song over and over and constantly has online meltdowns, and one is a damn robot who needs new batteries to order herself some food.
So interesting that some of you seem to be acknowledging how important mental health is and how detrimental being a mega celebrity and situations resulting from this celebrity can be...for Brandy. Yet still turn around and stigmatize other artists who went through similar and even worse situations. If some of you are going to finally be empathetic regarding the mental health of others, do it all the way, not when it suits your rhetoric.
Also, I think a few others have said it. Brandy has been saying this for years. This is literally why I just pay most of these threads about interviews. I have accepted that it's just her thing. I think others should do the same while waiting for new music.
:nowgorl:
Quote from: Kurama on June 09, 2016, 01:10:18 AM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:50:38 PM
Chris brown and Britney are a fucking mess
One releases the same song over and over and constantly has online meltdowns, and one is a damn robot who needs new batteries to order herself some food.
So interesting that some of you seem to be acknowledging how important mental health is and how detrimental being a mega celebrity and situations resulting from this celebrity can be...for Brandy. Yet still turn around and stigmatize other artists who went through similar and even worse situations. If some of you are going to finally be empathetic regarding the mental health of others, do it all the way, not when it suits your rhetoric.
Also, I think a few others have said it. Brandy has been saying this for years. This is literally why I just pay most of these threads about interviews. I have accepted that it's just her thing. I think others should do the same while waiting for new music.
There's one interesting situation here.
Chris and Britney are not #1 to them... so they wouldn't have that gut-reaction the same way towards Brandy, who is #1. At least for me. Not saying it's right, but it could play a part.
Quote from: ? on June 09, 2016, 01:12:22 AM
Quote from: Kurama on June 09, 2016, 01:10:18 AM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:50:38 PM
Chris brown and Britney are a fucking mess
One releases the same song over and over and constantly has online meltdowns, and one is a damn robot who needs new batteries to order herself some food.
So interesting that some of you seem to be acknowledging how important mental health is and how detrimental being a mega celebrity and situations resulting from this celebrity can be...for Brandy. Yet still turn around and stigmatize other artists who went through similar and even worse situations. If some of you are going to finally be empathetic regarding the mental health of others, do it all the way, not when it suits your rhetoric.
Also, I think a few others have said it. Brandy has been saying this for years. This is literally why I just pay most of these threads about interviews. I have accepted that it's just her thing. I think others should do the same while waiting for new music.
There's one interesting situation here.
Chris and Britney are not #1 to them... so they wouldn't have that gut-reaction the same way towards Brandy, who is #1. At least for me. Not saying it's right, but it could play a part.
That shouldn't matter imo. Don't expect people to show the same compassion or not express their frustrations with mental health issues if you're not modeling that yourself.
Quote from: Kurama on June 09, 2016, 01:14:25 AM
Quote from: ? on June 09, 2016, 01:12:22 AM
Quote from: Kurama on June 09, 2016, 01:10:18 AM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:50:38 PM
Chris brown and Britney are a fucking mess
One releases the same song over and over and constantly has online meltdowns, and one is a damn robot who needs new batteries to order herself some food.
So interesting that some of you seem to be acknowledging how important mental health is and how detrimental being a mega celebrity and situations resulting from this celebrity can be...for Brandy. Yet still turn around and stigmatize other artists who went through similar and even worse situations. If some of you are going to finally be empathetic regarding the mental health of others, do it all the way, not when it suits your rhetoric.
Also, I think a few others have said it. Brandy has been saying this for years. This is literally why I just pay most of these threads about interviews. I have accepted that it's just her thing. I think others should do the same while waiting for new music.
There's one interesting situation here.
Chris and Britney are not #1 to them... so they wouldn't have that gut-reaction the same way towards Brandy, who is #1. At least for me. Not saying it's right, but it could play a part.
That shouldn't matter imo. Don't expect people to show the same compassion or not express their frustrations with mental health issues if you're not modeling that yourself.
It doesn't matter.
But I'm just showing you how easy a viewpoint can change if you're not invested in a person and their feelings/mental health.
If I saw Rih crying on TV, I would say Omg, how sad.
If I saw Brandy crying on TV, I most likely would TEAR UP myself.
There's a difference.
Not saying it's right.
sssddd
faggot
(http://i.imgur.com/AMSDpbt.gif)
Quote from: Harlem on June 08, 2016, 08:31:04 PM
Brandy is goin WIN guys, she going to WIN!!!
She's already won. Bitch is a fighter! :'(
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on June 08, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Quote from: Yar backwards on June 08, 2016, 12:48:34 PM
this is nice & stuff
I want NEWS though
like about new song/album
!!!
I want tea.
No shade, but I feel like we've heard this so many times before.
Quote from: Kurama on June 09, 2016, 01:10:18 AM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 07:50:38 PM
Chris brown and Britney are a fucking mess
One releases the same song over and over and constantly has online meltdowns, and one is a damn robot who needs new batteries to order herself some food.
So interesting that some of you seem to be acknowledging how important mental health is and how detrimental being a mega celebrity and situations resulting from this celebrity can be...for Brandy. Yet still turn around and stigmatize other artists who went through similar and even worse situations. If some of you are going to finally be empathetic regarding the mental health of others, do it all the way, not when it suits your rhetoric.
Also, I think a few others have said it. Brandy has been saying this for years. This is literally why I just pay most of these threads about interviews. I have accepted that it's just her thing. I think others should do the same while waiting for new music.
lash them bby
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Quote from: TAE! on June 08, 2016, 08:27:02 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 08, 2016, 08:10:28 PM
Quote from: z??? on June 08, 2016, 08:07:36 PM
And the thing is Brandy is not open either. She is very phony, PC, and guarded in most of the interviews.
But still lets you know she's going through dark times, suffering. Sis, either suck it up and let us not feel your struggle it share what ya going through and live more candidly...
She never just SPILLS in an interview if relaxes and unwinds and just tells something like it is. Always this interview persona...
You might like this recent one
gggggggg !!!!
I don't know if I can agree w: Malc on that. She's been very open in her recent interviews.
https://soundcloud.com/billboard/soul-sisters-podcast-brandy
I've seen/heard those. This and the Wendy she pawned it one are rare exceptions.