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Title: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: tigernathan on December 01, 2015, 04:13:21 AM
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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Vonc2002 on December 01, 2015, 04:14:16 AM
Where is he speaking
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RekeRig on December 01, 2015, 04:26:29 AM
eh, he may be right but she's soooo talented. its hard to be mad
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Ulysses on December 01, 2015, 05:44:07 AM
If Adele wasn't pure greatness with what she does, I would agree with him.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Ulysses on December 01, 2015, 05:45:07 AM
Oh, and his wife was one of the most overrated singers in R&B history. So no need for him to comment.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Zankou. on December 01, 2015, 07:26:35 AM
Did they ever get married
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BranBran on December 01, 2015, 07:39:33 AM
I understand what he is trying to say, but no R&B girl has released an album as good as 25 lately when it comes to an album full of ballads.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 07:50:55 AM
white artists get way more credit than they are worth...and the world is racist
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 07:54:21 AM
QuoteLmao fetty wap did crazy numbers this year and he's black.. You fucking faggot get over the fact that no one's listening to your wack ass bitches music and it ain't cause of her skin

jkhhjhjhkjhkjhk
fetty wap?
am i missing something? is fetty 3x platinum?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 07:57:02 AM
I understand exactly what he means!

But as others have said Adele deserves her success! Her talent is ubdeniable and she deserve what ever push it is that shes recieving.

With that said I do wish the media stop acting like her music is new.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 08:08:47 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

Judging by the material she puts out.....yes, she deserves 5x the success of the black female artist out.

Shes had her own hurdle to over come....her weight. Being a heavy white woman presents its own level of discrimination.

Now Miley and Taylor on the other hand
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 08:08:47 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

Judging by the material she puts out.....yes, she deserves 5x the success of the black female artist out.

Shes had her own hurdle to over come....her weight. Being a heavy white woman presents its own level of discrimination.

Now Miley and Taylor on the other hand

m....ok

and what hurdles? kjkjkjjkj....thats what people LOVE about her...that she's a regular sized woman.....

i'll just say when you're told enough times that someone is just so incredible and perfect you start to believe it....its a human thing...to the point were you don't even realize you've been 'brainwashed'...i dont wanna call it 'brainwashing' because the girl can clearly sing....

Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Lazarus on December 01, 2015, 08:36:15 AM
v
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 08:08:47 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

Judging by the material she puts out.....yes, she deserves 5x the success of the black female artist out.

Shes had her own hurdle to over come....her weight. Being a heavy white woman presents its own level of discrimination.

Now Miley and Taylor on the other hand

m....ok

and what hurdles? kjkjkjjkj....thats what people LOVE about her...that she's a regular sized woman.....

i'll just say when you're told enough times that someone is just so incredible and perfect you start to believe it....its a human thing...to the point were you don't even realize you've been 'brainwashed'...i dont wanna call it 'brainwashing' because the girl can clearly sing....

Yeah, Im not brainwashed.

Yes, being big is her thing. However, its not the norm, nor is it what record execs today consider marketable. Her music is sucessful because it blurs age and cultural barriers. Same reason why Janet, Michael, Whitney, and Mariahs music was so popular. Everybody could get in.

The black girls are either making music that is marketed to a specific age or culture. This is why they aren't selling like Adele. This is why no one is selling like Adele. Do I think shes the greatest singer ever? No, but I reconize when someone music transends a fad, moment, and time. Kelly, Bey, Tamar, Sevyn and friends arent gonna do it because they are to stuck in moment.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 08:08:47 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

Judging by the material she puts out.....yes, she deserves 5x the success of the black female artist out.

Shes had her own hurdle to over come....her weight. Being a heavy white woman presents its own level of discrimination.

Now Miley and Taylor on the other hand

m....ok

and what hurdles? kjkjkjjkj....thats what people LOVE about her...that she's a regular sized woman.....

i'll just say when you're told enough times that someone is just so incredible and perfect you start to believe it....its a human thing...to the point were you don't even realize you've been 'brainwashed'...i dont wanna call it 'brainwashing' because the girl can clearly sing....

Yeah, Im not brainwashed.


Yes, being big is her thing. However, its not the norm, nor is it what record execs today consider marketable. Her music is sucessful because it blurs age and cultural barriers. Same reason why Janet, Michael, Whitney, and Mariahs music was so popular. Everybody could get in.

The black girls are either making music that is marketed to a specific age or culture. This is why they aren't selling like Adele. This is why no one is selling like Adele. Do I think shes the greatest singer ever? No, but I reconize when someone music transends a fad, moment, and time. Kelly, Bey, Tamar, Sevyn and friends arent gonna do it because they are to stuck in moment.

actually, you kind of are....you just dont know it....brainwashing is the wrong term....manipulation is a better term

did you think adele was so incredible when she was an alternative artist on Vh1....the media and people treating her like she's God has a HUGE effect on how you perceive her
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GLOCK on December 01, 2015, 08:56:30 AM
He's right tho :dead:

For instance that "rise up" song from that black girl is amazing
But it didn't get a third of the push hello got
Adele slays but yeah

David is correct
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 08:08:47 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

Judging by the material she puts out.....yes, she deserves 5x the success of the black female artist out.

Shes had her own hurdle to over come....her weight. Being a heavy white woman presents its own level of discrimination.

Now Miley and Taylor on the other hand

m....ok

and what hurdles? kjkjkjjkj....thats what people LOVE about her...that she's a regular sized woman.....

i'll just say when you're told enough times that someone is just so incredible and perfect you start to believe it....its a human thing...to the point were you don't even realize you've been 'brainwashed'...i dont wanna call it 'brainwashing' because the girl can clearly sing....

Yeah, Im not brainwashed.

Yes, being big is her thing. However, its not the norm, nor is it what record execs today consider marketable. Her music is sucessful because it blurs age and cultural barriers. Same reason why Janet, Michael, Whitney, and Mariahs music was so popular. Everybody could get in.

The black girls are either making music that is marketed to a specific age or culture. This is why they aren't selling like Adele. This is why no one is selling like Adele. Do I think shes the greatest singer ever? No, but I reconize when someone music transends a fad, moment, and time. Kelly, Bey, Tamar, Sevyn and friends arent gonna do it because they are to stuck in moment.

all very true

the thing is if whitney couldnt do 3.5 million adele damn sure isn't worthy

has everything to do with the fact that she's white
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 09:17:10 AM
Bro! Ive loved Adele since chasing pavements!

Which only furthure proves my point! There was no big push for Adele EVER! Shes never released 20 videos and dropped a surprise. She didnt use the fashion industry as a tool to market herself. She sold everything off of talent and word of mouth.

Everyone at my Thanksgiving table brought Adele! From my 14 year old niece all the way up to my 65 year old mom. Blacks are buying as well. You dont sell like that just based off of a white audience.

People respect her music first! I cant say the same for the black females. They like the performace, the hair styles, the dancing, the package. But the music is lack luster. Just being honest.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 09:27:48 AM
STILL missing the point...

a more talented black female artist with the same exact video and song wouldnt do 3.5 million....nowhere close
you are really living under a rock if you think her being white has anything to do with it...or that she's had to overcome 'hurdles'

are you white?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 01, 2015, 09:30:11 AM
Yh her success is over warranted
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 01, 2015, 09:31:10 AM
If Jazmine or Fantasia sang 'Hello' they wouldn't be selling 3 million first week
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BRockaBaby on December 01, 2015, 09:42:11 AM
i mean it's not the artist fault. it's the consumer. black white orange or blue. people are going to buy what they want and statistics show that...well...white people buy more than black hence why white artists aren't struggling as much to push units. it's really not rocket science.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: Culture on December 01, 2015, 09:31:10 AM
If Jazmine or Fantasia sang 'Hello' they wouldn't be selling 3 million first week

First off their singing style isnt palatable enough to cross cultural barriers. Fanny would sing it like a gospel song and the other would be running until the wheels feel off. Adeles voice has enough soul for blacks to dig in and pop enough for the white kids.

For the record Im black and very pro black!

But I said what I said, and Im sticking to it.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BRockaBaby on December 01, 2015, 09:48:21 AM
might I also add, it's not JUST the fact that adele is white why she's so successful. she writes her shit and has a story to go along with it. She speaks for the heartbroken and isn't afraid to push the envelope with the "asshole you hurt me" type shit. lots of female artist really try to follow the "female empowerment" route while Adele is perfectly fine talking about how fucking hurt she is over and over and people gravitate towards that.

not to mention, she's very down to earth and very IDGAF this is me. she's very authentic. though majority of her fan base is probably white, many colored people purchase and support her as well. You're right, if Jazmine Sullivan or someone were to sing "Hello" it probably wouldn't do as well but that's not just because of the skin color. it's more to it than that. Adele has a niche and she's comfortable in it and she owns it. her voice, her charisma, her artistry >>> skin color
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on December 01, 2015, 09:59:44 AM
I agree with everything he said. Adele is average at best. Her music isn't anything new and I'm sure I could find someone singing the same exact mess that's black.

Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Marilyn on December 01, 2015, 10:07:45 AM
Of course he's right. This is nothing new.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: yekim on December 01, 2015, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

this is such a dumb post
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 11:16:05 AM
Quote from: yekim on December 01, 2015, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

this is such a dumb post

nah you're just illiterate and stupid
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: yekim on December 01, 2015, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 11:16:05 AM
Quote from: yekim on December 01, 2015, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

this is such a dumb post

nah you're just illiterate and stupid

nope! try again sis

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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 11:22:18 AM
nnnn

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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: Ulysses on December 01, 2015, 05:45:07 AM
Oh, and his wife was one of the most overrated singers in R&B history. So no need for him to comment.
!!!!!!!!
this was so fckn tacky of him
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: BRockaBaby on December 01, 2015, 09:48:21 AM
might I also add, it's not JUST the fact that adele is white why she's so successful. she writes her shit and has a story to go along with it. She speaks for the heartbroken and isn't afraid to push the envelope with the "asshole you hurt me" type shit. lots of female artist really try to follow the "female empowerment" route while Adele is perfectly fine talking about how fucking hurt she is over and over and people gravitate towards that.

not to mention, she's very down to earth and very IDGAF this is me. she's very authentic. though majority of her fan base is probably white, many colored people purchase and support her as well. You're right, if Jazmine Sullivan or someone were to sing "Hello" it probably wouldn't do as well but that's not just because of the skin color. it's more to it than that. Adele has a niche and she's comfortable in it and she owns it. her voice, her charisma, her artistry >>> skin color
!!!!!!!

I can see ppl jumping on the success of Miley or Taylor, or even Britney Spears because of privilege.

but Adele? ... it just doesn't apply
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: yekim on December 01, 2015, 11:27:18 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 11:22:18 AM
nnnn

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v

and there you have it!

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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Nine on December 01, 2015, 11:27:20 AM
Well he has a point

But yeah, there are some other factors to Adele's success besides her race
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Miranda on December 01, 2015, 11:29:07 AM
I think part of the reason why Adele is so liberated and can give carefree etc so well
is her skin color. As a black person you face much more hardship and boxing that wouldn't allow you to be like that in the first place. I'm sure black people who don't "church" or "thug" it up have the hardest time getting a record deal.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 11:29:58 AM
I just don't see how it solely applies

and do we wanna make it a race issue or musical issue
because
Beyonce, Nicki, hell even Rihanna... they don't make "heavy" music :dead:
but they are pushed to the front

how about the same gorls that cry about Adele winning... go spend their coins on a black soul singer's alberms instead of spending on Beyonce concert tickets  :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BRockaBaby on December 01, 2015, 11:30:00 AM
Quote from: Nine on December 01, 2015, 11:27:20 AM
Well he has a point

But yeah, there are some other factors to Adele's success besides her race

!!!
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Jon on December 01, 2015, 11:30:12 AM
Quote from: Culture on December 01, 2015, 09:31:10 AM
If Jazmine or Fantasia sang 'Hello' they wouldn't be selling 3 million first week

No they wouldn't because they never had an album sell 30 million copies. If bey or rihanna weren't singing some of their songs it wouldn't be hots either. Lol.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Jon on December 01, 2015, 11:33:53 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 08:08:47 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

Judging by the material she puts out.....yes, she deserves 5x the success of the black female artist out.

Shes had her own hurdle to over come....her weight. Being a heavy white woman presents its own level of discrimination.

Now Miley and Taylor on the other hand

m....ok

and what hurdles? kjkjkjjkj....thats what people LOVE about her...that she's a regular sized woman.....

i'll just say when you're told enough times that someone is just so incredible and perfect you start to believe it....its a human thing...to the point were you don't even realize you've been 'brainwashed'...i dont wanna call it 'brainwashing' because the girl can clearly sing....

You don't make sense. All of this applies to beyonce, rihanna, Taylor etc. The media is always "pushing" them. Adele wasn't
pushed on the people. Her songs became successful om their own.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BRockaBaby on December 01, 2015, 11:49:04 AM
Quote from: Jonovan on December 01, 2015, 11:33:53 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 08:08:47 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

Judging by the material she puts out.....yes, she deserves 5x the success of the black female artist out.

Shes had her own hurdle to over come....her weight. Being a heavy white woman presents its own level of discrimination.

Now Miley and Taylor on the other hand

m....ok

and what hurdles? kjkjkjjkj....thats what people LOVE about her...that she's a regular sized woman.....

i'll just say when you're told enough times that someone is just so incredible and perfect you start to believe it....its a human thing...to the point were you don't even realize you've been 'brainwashed'...i dont wanna call it 'brainwashing' because the girl can clearly sing....

You don't make sense. All of this applies to beyonce, rihanna, Taylor etc. The media is always "pushing" them. Adele wasn't
pushed on the people. Her songs became successful om their own.


she's no industry puppet by any means!
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 11:50:41 AM
what does that have to do with the fact that she's doing these numbers because she's white?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Jon on December 01, 2015, 12:03:47 PM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 11:50:41 AM
what does that have to do with the fact that she's doing these numbers because she's white?

Because shes not doing these numbers because shes white. Lol.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on December 01, 2015, 12:05:20 PM
Adele wasn't pushed on the people?! Really? Okay????????
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Zankou. on December 01, 2015, 12:07:55 PM
Quote from: Jonovan on December 01, 2015, 12:03:47 PM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 11:50:41 AM
what does that have to do with the fact that she's doing these numbers because she's white?

Because shes not doing these numbers because shes white. Lol.

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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on December 01, 2015, 12:47:22 PM
like i really dont see why ppul are reaching for excuses for her success her voice and material are nothing no one else hasnt done
i mean Jessie J >>>>>

especially on a ballad b

i think she pulls that country pop audience imo

but shes not this amazing artist deserving of all this praise and accolades

shes just the selected media darling right now and when they decide to cut ha off you guys will be in hea tambout reasons why she fell off
like the drones u are

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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 01:54:14 PM
This makes no sense considering Adele is crazy talented.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
right.

I was watching her NYC concert last night

She did CP and RITD

Like... She delivers something you can't duplicate black or white imo
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 01, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
right.

I was watching her NYC concert last night

She did CP and RITD

Like... She delivers something you can't duplicate black or white imo

What is she giving that Chrisette, Jaz or Ledisi isn't?

And for the love of God don't tell me amazing lyrics cause her songwriting is no better than Jaz's.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Phantom on December 01, 2015, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 01, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
right.

I was watching her NYC concert last night

She did CP and RITD

Like... She delivers something you can't duplicate black or white imo

What is she giving that Chrisette, Jaz or Ledisi isn't?

And for the love of God don't tell me amazing lyrics cause her songwriting is no better than Jaz's.


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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 01, 2015, 04:26:29 AM
eh, he may be right but she's soooo talented. its hard to be mad
Do you think jazmine sullivan deserves the same success as adele?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 01, 2015, 02:13:29 PM
Hell, i'll give you Ledisi cause I don't use her my music my self :dead: but the other two?

Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 02:18:46 PM
Fuck adele tbh
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Phantom on December 01, 2015, 02:20:19 PM
Quote from: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 02:18:46 PM
Fuck adele tbh

lol yea
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Ulysses on December 01, 2015, 02:22:53 PM
Yall acting Ike black artists don't get the "push" that Adele ' s label is giving. Beyonc? and Alicia Keys are great examples of artists that get the same push. The only difference here, Adele just came off of an 11 million selling album. Not to mention, even AFTER the album was done being promoted, it STAYED selling. The bish was sitting up home with her feet up about to give birth and people were still buying.

There are also white artists that don't get the same push also (Jojo for instance, has been trying to push the R&B soul thing and wasn't working with her label)

Can't a bitch just be TALENTED and likeable??
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 01, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
right.

I was watching her NYC concert last night

She did CP and RITD

Like... She delivers something you can't duplicate black or white imo

What is she giving that Chrisette, Jaz or Ledisi isn't?

And for the love of God don't tell me amazing lyrics cause her songwriting is no better than Jaz's.
I'd say ADELE's strength is how cohesive she is.

she doesn't do a wide array of vocals, but her tone is unique and she can SING.

Everything from 19 to 21 to 25

You can tell she's really into her craft and how it's presented. Ppl even say "she's boring!"

But it's just what's she's giving is connecting with ppl because she stays true to it right down to her dresses :dead:

I can't name a black or white artist who has done that with their career to the extent she has.
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Post by: AIDS! on December 01, 2015, 02:26:06 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 01, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
right.

I was watching her NYC concert last night

She did CP and RITD

Like... She delivers something you can't duplicate black or white imo

What is she giving that Chrisette, Jaz or Ledisi isn't?

And for the love of God don't tell me amazing lyrics cause her songwriting is no better than Jaz's.
I'd say ADELE's strength is how cohesive she is.

she doesn't do a wide array of vocals, but her tone is unique and she can SING.

Everything from 19 to 21 to 25

You can tell she's really into her craft and how it's presented. Ppl even say "she's boring!"

But it's just what's she's giving is connecting with ppl because she stays true to it right down to her dresses :dead:

I can't name a black or white artist who has done that with their career to the extent she has.
????
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on December 01, 2015, 02:22:53 PM
Yall acting Ike black artists don't get the "push" that Adele ' s label is giving. Beyonc? and Alicia Keys are great examples of artists that get the same push. The only difference here, Adele just came off of an 11 million selling album. Not to mention, even AFTER the album was done being promoted, it STAYED selling. The bish was sitting up home with her feet up about to give birth and people were still buying.

There are also white artists that don't get the same push also (Jojo for instance, has been trying to push the R&B soul thing and wasn't working with her label)

Can't a bitch just be TALENTED and likeable??
Beyonce & Alicia had to work twice as hard. And beyonce and alicia are two of 3 black female singers that get mainstream attention. Point proven.
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Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on December 01, 2015, 02:22:53 PM
Yall acting Ike black artists don't get the "push" that Adele ' s label is giving. Beyonc? and Alicia Keys are great examples of artists that get the same push. The only difference here, Adele just came off of an 11 million selling album. Not to mention, even AFTER the album was done being promoted, it STAYED selling. The bish was sitting up home with her feet up about to give birth and people were still buying.

There are also white artists that don't get the same push also (Jojo for instance, has been trying to push the R&B soul thing and wasn't working with her label)

Can't a bitch just be TALENTED and likeable??

I mean... tbh.
Robin Thicke was out promoting more on National TV than Adele and his albums flopped to the pits of hell.
When "Blurred Lines" came out his label was giving him all types of push. But it didnt work cause the public didnt want.
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Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 01, 2015, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 01, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
right.

I was watching her NYC concert last night

She did CP and RITD

Like... She delivers something you can't duplicate black or white imo

What is she giving that Chrisette, Jaz or Ledisi isn't?

And for the love of God don't tell me amazing lyrics cause her songwriting is no better than Jaz's.
I'd say ADELE's strength is how cohesive she is.

she doesn't do a wide array of vocals, but her tone is unique and she can SING.

Everything from 19 to 21 to 25

You can tell she's really into her craft and how it's presented. Ppl even say "she's boring!"

But it's just what's she's giving is connecting with ppl because she stays true to it right down to her dresses :dead:

I can't name a black or white artist who has done that with their career to the extent she has.

HUN I could name you five r&B albums right now as cohesive as anything Adele is serving.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 02:39:03 PM
Yall doin the most over this glorified culture vulture

How many of yall acually bought 19  before she became insanely popular?

Fake stans lol
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Marilyn on December 01, 2015, 02:46:58 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on December 01, 2015, 02:22:53 PM
Yall acting Ike black artists don't get the "push" that Adele ' s label is giving. Beyonc? and Alicia Keys are great examples of artists that get the same push. The only difference here, Adele just came off of an 11 million selling album. Not to mention, even AFTER the album was done being promoted, it STAYED selling. The bish was sitting up home with her feet up about to give birth and people were still buying.

There are also white artists that don't get the same push also (Jojo for instance, has been trying to push the R&B soul thing and wasn't working with her label)

Can't a bitch just be TALENTED and likeable??

You have a point.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 03:02:14 PM
jojo is late

adulle is talented but not talented ENOUGH to do 3.5 million....a lot of black female artists DESTROY her in terms of tone, power, versaility, stage presence, blah blah...

same goes with taylor

generally, blacks have to be way WAY more interesting/talented to get the same success/ recognition

look at iggy...thankfully she's finished but look how terrible and corny she was....and the fact that a lot of you were going up for that mess just because it was 'popular'



Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: throwintheTAL on December 01, 2015, 03:43:21 PM
Quote from: yekim on December 01, 2015, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
you're missing the point.....she deserves success...but 5 times more success than the top black female artist?

its the inequality that people are annoyed by.

this is such a dumb post
yeah, stewie's a fckin idiot
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Post by: throwintheTAL on December 01, 2015, 03:47:40 PM
Quote from: Culture on December 01, 2015, 09:31:10 AM
If Jazmine or Fantasia sang 'Hello' they wouldn't be selling 3 million first week
doesn't that have to do with fanbase quantities? doesn't that separate adele apart from a lot of R&B gorls?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RekeRig on December 01, 2015, 04:26:45 PM
her album isn't all that, though. 21 was much better to me
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RekeRig on December 01, 2015, 04:30:35 PM
PART of the reason (not sure how much) she's so successful, is definitely because she's white.

if she were black she'd maybe still be uber successful, but not to this extent. She's super relatable because of her personality and what she sings about, yes, but also because she looks like SO many of the girls that are buying her albums lol thats a big deal to people. period.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on December 01, 2015, 04:35:44 PM
If anything people are sheep and want to be apart of something. He label wasn't going to let this album flop after selling so many copies of the last record so they went into strategic marketing mode. They set up her return and album perfectly. Mainstream Media also played apart because the whole "Adele could sell a million first week" mess was being made a big deal before the album date was even released. Then as time went on the increased the numbers getting the public excited. Hence people rushing out to stores to purchase being apart of her "movement" It's genius actually but she's an average artist that's only getting by based on the color of her skin.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 04:36:51 PM
I recall some members stating that if your non black dating a black person, you should feel obligated to participate in topics such as black lives matter.

So does this not apply to adele, despite her making millions off black culture :howfestive:
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Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 04:49:09 PM
IDK.

I just feel like the minor uproar has nothing to do with Adele being white.
Because it doesn't really matter who the artist is (white, black, Latin, chinese etc) people would still see a problem with the success.
Just because they dont use.

Like how its kinda always "(insert successful ethnic artist) doesn't really deserve their success. It should be (insert random).
The former's music isn't all that  :overit: . Talented sure...But."

its always going to be that unless it's an artist a person likes.

(http://i.imgur.com/PQNp90W.gif)
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: MAY on December 01, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
No shade, but from my observation folks didn't
really LATCH onto 'Dele until Amy passed away.

Just sayin...

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o64/AllStar951/1965866o.gif) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/AllStar951/media/1965866o.gif.html)
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Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 01, 2015, 05:01:28 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 01, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
No shade, but from my observation folks didn't
really LATCH onto 'Dele until Amy passed away.

Just sayin...

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o64/AllStar951/1965866o.gif) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/AllStar951/media/1965866o.gif.html)

She was definitely the lesser of the two when Amy was alive.

It would have been interesting to see if Adele would have quite as big if Amy had gotten clean.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Miranda on December 01, 2015, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 01, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
No shade, but from my observation folks didn't
really LATCH onto 'Dele until Amy passed away.

Just sayin...

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o64/AllStar951/1965866o.gif) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/AllStar951/media/1965866o.gif.html)
That is actually a good observation.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 01, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
No shade, but from my observation folks didn't
really LATCH onto 'Dele until Amy passed away.

Just sayin...

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o64/AllStar951/1965866o.gif) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/AllStar951/media/1965866o.gif.html)

I would believe that if Amy was a huge seller. But she wasn't.

But why do you think that? Im actually curious.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
But how can you say Adele doesnt deserve to sell her 3 mill, when that's what she SOLD honestly!

No bundle package w/ her tour
No surprise roll out
Wasnt a 99c black friday mess.

People found her intriguing enough black, white, old, and young to buy her music based off her and her voice!

So the real issue is, you simply dont like her and dont understand why that many people invested.

Furthermore, Wheres this push yall speak of because there honestly wasnt one. Taylors release is what I call a push! Adelel video was bout 20 bucks, and shes barely performed.

If it was Bey yall wouldnt say this! Yall would praise. When in reality Beyonce doesnt deserve half her manipulated sales and has TRASH music!
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Jon on December 01, 2015, 05:06:59 PM
Didn't y'all say last week she's not a soul singer? How is she making money off of black music? ^o)

Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Cocoa on December 01, 2015, 05:08:08 PM
,
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Marilyn on December 01, 2015, 05:08:22 PM
are they still engaged
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Nine on December 01, 2015, 05:08:58 PM
25 is shit tbh

That's what I call trash
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Miranda on December 01, 2015, 05:09:50 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 01, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 01, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
No shade, but from my observation folks didn't
really LATCH onto 'Dele until Amy passed away.

Just sayin...

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o64/AllStar951/1965866o.gif) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/AllStar951/media/1965866o.gif.html)

I would believe that if Amy was a huge seller. But she wasn't.

But why do you think that? Im actually curious.

She was tho. Didn't her last mess go 5x platinum?

(http://i.imgur.com/xKvhXeD.gif)
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 05:11:06 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
But how can you say Adele doesnt deserve to sell her 3 mill, when that's what she SOLD honestly!

No surprise roll out

If it was Bey yall wouldnt say this! Yall would praise. When in reality Beyonce doesnt deserve half her manipulated sales and has TRASH music!

Now this sounds dumb.
Not only is the former false. The latter is too. You just don't personally use.

Surprise! there was no trickery. The girls chose to buy of their own free will.
It was an honest buy just like Adele's was.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 05:16:15 PM
Quote from: Buika on December 01, 2015, 05:09:50 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 01, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 01, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
No shade, but from my observation folks didn't
really LATCH onto 'Dele until Amy passed away.

Just sayin...

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o64/AllStar951/1965866o.gif) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/AllStar951/media/1965866o.gif.html)

I would believe that if Amy was a huge seller. But she wasn't.

But why do you think that? Im actually curious.

She was tho. Didn't her last mess go 5x platinum?

(http://i.imgur.com/xKvhXeD.gif)

It's 3x plat' in the states.
It saw an astronomical increase globally after her death.
before that it was just ok selling wise.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Zankou. on December 01, 2015, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Nine on December 01, 2015, 05:08:58 PM
25 is shit tbh

That's what I call trash

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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 01, 2015, 05:18:16 PM
Yh Amy>
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on December 01, 2015, 06:07:16 PM
Quote from: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 03:02:14 PM
jojo is late

adulle is talented but not talented ENOUGH to do 3.5 million....a lot of black female artists DESTROY her in terms of tone, power, versaility, stage presence, blah blah...

same goes with taylor

generally, blacks have to be way WAY more interesting/talented to get the same success/ recognition

look at iggy...thankfully she's finished but look how terrible and corny she was....and the fact that a lot of you were going up for that mess just because it was 'popular'

lol right aeems like just cuz  its popular everything is justified
mel teas

but whites loved them some iggy  oh hip hop without a skin tone change

sign me up

(http://i.imgur.com/xKvhXeD.gif)


Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: tigernathan on December 01, 2015, 06:14:18 PM
I don't know why there's even an argument. Like he told no lies lol!

Just listen to some songs no Urban AC. Some of them would've got a push on Pop, AC, Rhythmic etc. if it was recorded by a white person. That's a fact.

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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: tigernathan on December 01, 2015, 06:16:27 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 01, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 01, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
No shade, but from my observation folks didn't
really LATCH onto 'Dele until Amy passed away.

Just sayin...

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o64/AllStar951/1965866o.gif) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/AllStar951/media/1965866o.gif.html)

I would believe that if Amy was a huge seller. But she wasn't.

But why do you think that? Im actually curious.

Back to Black sold 20 million worldwide. Without streaming and a PR machine.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 02:39:03 PM
Yall doin the most over this glorified culture vulture

How many of yall acually bought 19  before she became insanely popular?

Fake stans lol
sss
But, the whole point is for an artist to grow as their career progresses

I didn't buy Brandy or Never Say Never

Still haven't to this day

Full Moon was like the first alberm I ever bought, along with Ashanti :dead:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on December 01, 2015, 06:36:24 PM
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Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: amy on December 01, 2015, 06:16:27 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 01, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 01, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
No shade, but from my observation folks didn't
really LATCH onto 'Dele until Amy passed away.

Just sayin...

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o64/AllStar951/1965866o.gif) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/AllStar951/media/1965866o.gif.html)

I would believe that if Amy was a huge seller. But she wasn't.

But why do you think that? Im actually curious.

Back to Black sold 20 million worldwide. Without streaming and a PR machine.

But it wasn't Huge in the US. Whereas 21 is Diamond plus.
(and 25 isn't on any streaming service.)
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Post by: tigernathan on December 01, 2015, 06:39:27 PM
It was. Sold 3 million. :dead:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 06:42:23 PM
Im just going off of what Mays said.
That's 8 million people that bought 21 that didnt buy Back to Black. That's all im saying.  :dead:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: tigernathan on December 01, 2015, 06:45:45 PM
Two different artists, time periods and PR.

Amy was being slandered by the media whereas Adele gets praise. Totally different. But all things considered, Amy was a huge star and her albums did very well and still does.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Admin on December 01, 2015, 06:52:09 PM
The real issue is that record labels don't seem to invest and believe in black artists.
A Jazmine will never get the push an Adele gets. It's racism and it begins with the labels.
Just my opinionata. :jarvwhereru:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 01, 2015, 06:55:55 PM
Quote from: amy on December 01, 2015, 06:45:45 PM
Two different artists, time periods and PR.

Amy was being slandered by the media whereas Adele gets praise. Totally different. But all things considered, Amy was a huge star and her albums did very well and still does.
!!!
Especially in the U.K
Adele was always a step behind Amy
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: MosDef on December 01, 2015, 06:56:09 PM
I agree with him 100000%
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Kurama on December 01, 2015, 06:58:34 PM
Adele can write and sing. Is that enough to warrant all this success...idk

and her alb is fuckin snooze btw.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on December 01, 2015, 06:59:53 PM
Quote from: squid on December 01, 2015, 06:52:09 PM
The real issue is that record labels don't seem to invest and believe in black artists.
A Jazmine will never get the push an Adele gets. It's racism and it begins with the labels.
Just my opinionata. :jarvwhereru:

!
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Post by: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 07:00:23 PM
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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Jon on December 01, 2015, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: squid on December 01, 2015, 06:52:09 PM
The real issue is that record labels don't seem to invest and believe in black artists.
A Jazmine will never get the push an Adele gets. It's racism and it begins with the labels.
Just my opinionata. :jarvwhereru:

Adele makes her record label money though. If Jazmine did I'm sure they would give her a bigger budget for promo.

Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on December 01, 2015, 07:10:02 PM
Jaz isn't being given an opportunity to make her label money though. You can't possibly be that fucking stupid.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 07:12:00 PM
K michelle said that she had to give up potential hit songs to white artists because she was black.

The industry is severely white dominated. MJ Beat the odds but the industry quickly tore him down though.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 07:16:17 PM
I love Adele's writing
It cuts so deep, and it's REAL.

Sorry, what were yawl discussing?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: One Of Those Nights. on December 01, 2015, 08:25:47 PM
I could see people being upset with Sam Smith. John Legend is a better artist in every way and that's an example of white privilege. Or Justin Timberlake. He is no better than Usher or Chris Brown.

With Adele, name one black R&B / soul artist who sings as well as her and has the material she has. And the personality to boot. Plus, she hasn't over exposed herself like other artists so people anticipated her return.

And c'mon. Adele is fat in an industry that only cares about image. She isn't selling only on her skin color like Katy Perry or Taylor Swift.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: yummy on December 01, 2015, 08:33:31 PM
Quote from: One Of Those Nights. on December 01, 2015, 08:25:47 PM
With Adele, name one black R&B / soul artist who sings as well as her and has the material she has.

I can think of more than a few black ones  :dead: and a few white ones too
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: yummy on December 01, 2015, 08:36:55 PM
I don't really think it's fair to attribute all of her success to being white. She does have some sort of talent and seems to have a genuine passion for music. But her main selling point is relatability. She doesn't look like a supermodel, she's not a sexpot and her music designed to appeal to any and every demographic; most of her songs can be played anywhere from the Olympic games to a romantic comedy movie.

With that said, that alb' is fucking snore and I'm tired of hearing about it.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 08:44:52 PM
Quote from: Corporate Cannibal. on December 01, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
LMAO Jazmine, Jill Scott etc

like... lol...there isn't anything special about Adele's voice.

Have you bought any of Jaz' or Jill's mess ?  :ohwow:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Angel In Disguise on December 01, 2015, 08:47:58 PM
No lies told.  I don't understand Adele's hype...I just don't.  Almost everyone that covers "Hello" does a better job of it.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on December 01, 2015, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 01, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
No shade, but from my observation folks didn't
really LATCH onto 'Dele until Amy passed away.

Just sayin...

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amy was never that good  .. she was given too much IMO

Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GLOCK on December 01, 2015, 08:49:40 PM
jill scott sucks
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 09:14:39 PM
Quote from: One Of Those Nights. on December 01, 2015, 08:25:47 PM
I could see people being upset with Sam Smith. John Legend is a better artist in every way and that's an example of white privilege. Or Justin Timberlake. He is no better than Usher or Chris Brown.

With Adele, name one black R&B / soul artist who sings as well as her and has the material she has. And the personality to boot. Plus, she hasn't over exposed herself like other artists so people anticipated her return.

And c'mon. Adele is fat in an industry that only cares about image. She isn't selling only on her skin color like Katy Perry or Taylor Swift.
Yeah fuck you

Go blow out adele's fat ass
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 09:16:44 PM
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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 09:18:25 PM
Quote from: Angel In Disguise on December 01, 2015, 08:47:58 PM
No lies told.  I don't understand Adele's hype...I just don't.  Almost everyone that covers "Hello" does a better job of it.

so true

the one asian girl on youtube
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 09:21:05 PM
eminem already dominated rap music


Yall gon let adele take over r &
B too? Smdh
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 01, 2015, 09:25:44 PM
b

only one song from 25 is even close to R&B.
Y'all just be saying shit to be saying it.
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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 09:27:01 PM
Quote from: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 09:14:39 PM
Quote from: One Of Those Nights. on December 01, 2015, 08:25:47 PM
I could see people being upset with Sam Smith. John Legend is a better artist in every way and that's an example of white privilege. Or Justin Timberlake. He is no better than Usher or Chris Brown.

With Adele, name one black R&B / soul artist who sings as well as her and has the material she has. And the personality to boot. Plus, she hasn't over exposed herself like other artists so people anticipated her return.

And c'mon. Adele is fat in an industry that only cares about image. She isn't selling only on her skin color like Katy Perry or Taylor Swift.
Yeah fuck you

Go blow out adele's fat ass
bbbb
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 09:27:47 PM
dfgdfg
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Stewie on December 01, 2015, 09:28:18 PM
[youtube autoplay=1 start=18]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ilCaCv5qI[/youtube]
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Kaeli. on December 01, 2015, 10:04:32 PM
Sorry  but I don't understand what Adele has to do with black artists.

1. The bitch is not R&B.
2. She's slaying the other white bitches to, so like :dead:

Some of ya'll are acting like her success is the norm. As if other whites just shit out 3M albums in a week.  :ohwow:

Adele slayed everyone and you're just gonna have 2 get over it!  :cheerup:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 01, 2015, 10:26:24 PM
If she aint r & b, what is she, pop? :plzstop:

Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: One Of Those Nights. on December 02, 2015, 02:28:29 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 01, 2015, 10:04:32 PM
Sorry  but I don't understand what Adele has to do with black artists.

1. The bitch is not R&B.
2. She's slaying the other white bitches to, so like :dead:

Some of ya'll are acting like her success is the norm. As if other whites just shit out 3M albums in a week.  :ohwow:

Adele slayed everyone and you're just gonna have 2 get over it!  :cheerup:

Exactly!

Some people seem mad in here lol
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 02, 2015, 03:01:47 AM
I dont understand the fumes, but Adele is R&B/Soul.

Not modern by any means but she has more of a Stevie/Ella/Etta/Marvin ballad style. Its more reflective of old school soul/jazz.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RekeRig on December 02, 2015, 04:50:03 AM
Ya'll don't think SOME of her success is because of the fact that she's white? SOME? get real
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on December 02, 2015, 05:57:51 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 02, 2015, 03:01:47 AM
I dont understand the fumes, but Adele is R&B/Soul.

Not modern by any means but she has more of a Stevie/Ella/Etta/Marvin ballad style. Its more reflective of old school soul/jazz.

I dont hear it

Shes blues id say

Not soul
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 02, 2015, 06:29:02 AM
Quote from: TheNextLew on December 02, 2015, 05:57:51 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 02, 2015, 03:01:47 AM
I dont understand the fumes, but Adele is R&B/Soul.

Not modern by any means but she has more of a Stevie/Ella/Etta/Marvin ballad style. Its more reflective of old school soul/jazz.

I dont hear it

Shes blues id say

Not soul

You do know BLUES is the other half of R&B right?  :omgwatshappening:

Soul is derived from Blues....

Gospel/Negro Spiritual...Rock/Blues/Jazz.....Rythmn&Blues/Soul/Funk...
HipHop. We developed kind of in that order.

Also Etta and Ella are Blues singers
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 06:35:16 AM
Some people class her as folks, bluegrass, country and rock
Kinda like Mumfords & Sons
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 02, 2015, 06:38:23 AM
Quote from: Culture on December 02, 2015, 06:35:16 AM
Some people class her as folks, bluegrass, country and rock
Kinda like Mumfords & Sons

Shes nothing like Mumford. No banjo, no homemade instruments, no spoon and knee mess.

She's soul/blues/pop. Anyone who know music history especially in the context of Black music knows her sound. Its on her wiki page! Lol
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Kaeli. on December 02, 2015, 07:33:59 AM
Quote from: RIG on December 02, 2015, 04:50:03 AM
Ya'll don't think SOME of her success is because of the fact that she's white? SOME? get real

B not enough for blacks to get angry because she's slaying and r&b artists aren't. Her fan base is very diverse.

Also Adele just isn't R&B to me.she might have a soulful voice but I don't see her music as R&B
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on December 02, 2015, 07:45:58 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 02, 2015, 06:29:02 AM
Quote from: TheNextLew on December 02, 2015, 05:57:51 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 02, 2015, 03:01:47 AM
I dont understand the fumes, but Adele is R&B/Soul.

Not modern by any means but she has more of a Stevie/Ella/Etta/Marvin ballad style. Its more reflective of old school soul/jazz.

I dont hear it

Shes blues id say

Not soul

Yes blues witjout the rythym gorl

But u know what i mean its like a blues singer

Not an rnb singer like u think y know
You do know BLUES is the other half of R&B right?  :omgwatshappening:

Soul is derived from Blues....

Gospel/Negro Spiritual...Rock/Blues/Jazz.....Rythmn&Blues/Soul/Funk...
HipHop. We developed kind of in that order.

Also Etta and Ella are Blues singers
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on December 02, 2015, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: Culture on December 02, 2015, 06:35:16 AM
Some people class her as folks, bluegrass, country and rock
Kinda like Mumfords & Sons

Right
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 02, 2015, 08:27:47 AM
Quote from: M?RGĖ??X on December 01, 2015, 07:10:02 PM
Jaz isn't being given an opportunity to make her label money though. You can't possibly be that fucking stupid.

I wouldn't have put it so bluntly but yeh :dead:

There is no reason why "Someone Like You" (great record) was such a big hit but "In Love With Another Man" wasn't officially released.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 02, 2015, 08:30:38 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 02, 2015, 07:33:59 AM
Quote from: RIG on December 02, 2015, 04:50:03 AM
Ya'll don't think SOME of her success is because of the fact that she's white? SOME? get real

B not enough for blacks to get angry because she's slaying and r&b artists aren't. Her fan base is very diverse.

Also Adele just isn't R&B to me.she might have a soulful voice but I don't see her music as R&B

I haven't listened to 25 but based on Hello I wouldn't class her as R&B either. 21 had Soul running all through it though.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Steffon on December 02, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
He didn't lie
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 02, 2015, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: Culture on December 02, 2015, 06:35:16 AM
Some people class her as folks, bluegrass, country and rock
Kinda like Mumfords & Sons

And we both know thats bullshit :dead:

Soon as she breaks more records white media will classify her as one of the best selling r & b/soul artists. And alot of people in here are just COMFORTABLE with her taking it over. Smh. Brainwashed foolz :supluv:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 10:50:09 AM
I disagree about her being labeled R&B by white media
she'll always be labeled "Pop" by them
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 11:12:46 AM
These fumes are really unwarranted guys :dead:

Adele is talented
She makes amazing music, a great vocalist
And of course she's white so that opens her up to another demographic.
Beyonc? is light skin, curvy, and wears blonde wigs, which opens her up to another demographic. It's like stating the obvious at this point :dead:

But the BULK of her success is because of her talent, drive, and great music. I would never take that away from somebody because of their skin color.

And you can say "oh but Jazzys better!"
But you don't have everybody else's ears. We like runs, white ppl don't. Maybe it's the concensus us of America that Adele's music is simple, catchy, but still something you can feel.

Fanny? Not everybody likes ppl acting out on a track
J Hud? Not everybody likes ppl SCREAMING all the damn time :dead:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 11:19:06 AM
Usually the ppl that make it THIS big, have mastered that gray area of watering the music down but still keeping a piece of themselves. Because you reach more ppl.

I admit Adele's songwriting is simple and repeatative, but BOOM, a broader audience of ppl are captured.

There's no coincidence that NSN did 14 mil and then the gorls looked at WAU like... Oh she's adding GREASE to it, no thanks! :dead:

RnB in the 90's took big steps, blending pop/country ... incorporating hip-hop

But it was only a matter of time that RnB as we know it would get redundant like all other genres until someone revives it.

It'll come back around in some form :dead:

But if he thinks J Hud can link up with Neyo and put out crap mixed with late 05 pop influences and EXPECT her to get some big opportunity to go diamond, he's crazy :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 02, 2015, 11:43:53 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This!!!!!!!!!!!! All of it!!!!
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 11:47:57 AM
Is bullshit
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: yummy on December 02, 2015, 12:01:12 PM
v

Ray and Gen' are just mad Adele came along and made Bey's "game changer" alb' look like a fluke.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 12:03:39 PM
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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 12:11:02 PM
She didn't though Lolz
She released 25 on a Friday because of Bey's game changer
no one can make it look like a fluke
I like Adele but Bent's essays are bull
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: JDM on December 02, 2015, 12:11:22 PM
I got so tired of girls getting naked on music videos, sometimes can't even barely sing that I'm glad to see what happens to Adele. To me, it's a message send to the music world that we want to get back to MUSIC.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 12:11:02 PM
She didn't though Lolz
She released 25 on a Friday because of Bey's game changer
no one can make it look like a fluke
I like Adele but Bent's essays are bull
well to be fair you're illogical so anything drenched in logic is bull to you :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 12:11:02 PM
She didn't though Lolz
She released 25 on a Friday because of Bey's game changer
no one can make it look like a fluke
I like Adele but Bent's essays are bull
well to be fair you're illogical so anything drenched in logic is bull to you :kii:
there must be an exception to every rule
because those essays really are bull
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 12:45:19 PM
And how come you or nobody else made these type of rants when Bey did what she did?

Because she's "black" :dead:

Hunny lemme tell you, that gorl has had MORE breaks than any entertainer of ALL time white or black :kii:

And still putting out sucky music :kii:

But even still, let's use your logic.

"Oh if a black singer did what Adele does it wouldn't work"

Bey's is our black champion right?!
Um..... was there anything like HELLO on her alberm.

Or was she naked dancing around, getting out of limos wiping Jay-Z's CUM off of her got damn chin

But I didn't see ONE soapbox gorl complain. Is that how you wanna be represented?! "Oh Queen Bey trending! Slaying all the gorls!" Yea translation Slaying all the BLACK gorls

But see, yawl buy into this shit

So yea, don't really care about the soapbox gorls.

Glad Adele is keeping her clothes ON, being CLASSY, and making GREAT music.

White OR Black
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 12:56:07 PM
And if we do wanna talk color relations and unfairness

Then Adele is selling more for the same reason Beyonc? and Tina had Kelly looking like a Heath bar dipped in kool aid so many years

And the gorls STILL don't support Kelly as much even tho they sound alike vocally :dead: and Kelly dancing better

Like ssssss

Get outta here with this white this, white that mess. :dead:

It's happening within your OWN iTunes library
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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: VirgoMind on December 02, 2015, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 01, 2015, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: Culture on December 01, 2015, 09:31:10 AM
If Jazmine or Fantasia sang 'Hello' they wouldn't be selling 3 million first week

First off their singing style isnt palatable enough to cross cultural barriers. Fanny would sing it like a gospel song and the other would be running until the wheels feel off. Adeles voice has enough soul for blacks to dig in and pop enough for the white kids.

For the record Im black and very pro black!

But I said what I said, and Im sticking to it.

I see what you're saying.

And if for example if Fantasia or Jazzy did record hello.  People would the be able to find songs on their album talking about being a Baby Mom, Hood Nigga this, hood love that. Etc... Where as Adele literally has an album with content that EVERYONE can relate to no matter age, gender, or ethnicity. Her music is very universal.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: MAY on December 02, 2015, 01:18:15 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 12:45:19 PM
And how come you or nobody else made these type of rants when Bey did what she did?

Because she's "black" :dead:

Hunny lemme tell you, that gorl has had MORE breaks than any entertainer of ALL time white or black :kii:

And still putting out sucky music :kii:

But even still, let's use your logic.

"Oh if a black singer did what Adele does it wouldn't work"

Bey's is our black champion right?!
Um..... was there anything like HELLO on her alberm.

Or was she naked dancing around, getting out of limos wiping Jay-Z's CUM off of her got damn chin

But I didn't see ONE soapbox gorl complain. Is that how you wanna be represented?! "Oh Queen Bey trending! Slaying all the gorls!" Yea translation Slaying all the BLACK gorls

But see, yawl buy into this shit

So yea, don't really care about the soapbox gorls.

Glad Adele is keeping her clothes ON, being CLASSY, and making GREAT music.

White OR Black

Well, when you put it like THAT :-o
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 01:43:16 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 02, 2015, 01:18:15 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 12:45:19 PM
And how come you or nobody else made these type of rants when Bey did what she did?

Because she's "black" :dead:

Hunny lemme tell you, that gorl has had MORE breaks than any entertainer of ALL time white or black :kii:

And still putting out sucky music :kii:

But even still, let's use your logic.

"Oh if a black singer did what Adele does it wouldn't work"

Bey's is our black champion right?!
Um..... was there anything like HELLO on her alberm.

Or was she naked dancing around, getting out of limos wiping Jay-Z's CUM off of her got damn chin

But I didn't see ONE soapbox gorl complain. Is that how you wanna be represented?! "Oh Queen Bey trending! Slaying all the gorls!" Yea translation Slaying all the BLACK gorls

But see, yawl buy into this shit

So yea, don't really care about the soapbox gorls.

Glad Adele is keeping her clothes ON, being CLASSY, and making GREAT music.

White OR Black

Well, when you put it like THAT :-o
its still bullshit
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: throwintheTAL on December 02, 2015, 01:52:37 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 07:16:17 PM
I love Adele's writing
It cuts so deep, and it's REAL.

Sorry, what were yawl discussing?
lemme quote this since no one else did
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: throwintheTAL on December 02, 2015, 01:55:57 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 02, 2015, 12:01:12 PM
v

Ray and Gen' are just mad Adele came along and made Bey's "game changer" alb' look like a fluke.
where's rih's alb?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 02, 2015, 01:58:23 PM
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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:00:23 PM
Quote from: LISlikeliquor on December 02, 2015, 01:52:37 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 01, 2015, 07:16:17 PM
I love Adele's writing
It cuts so deep, and it's REAL.

Sorry, what were yawl discussing?
lemme quote this since no one else did
Nothing special about her lyrics
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:08:33 PM
Nothing at all :dead:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:09:44 PM
Hhhh she writes better than Bey tho
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Zankou. on December 02, 2015, 02:10:15 PM
d

well that's not saying much
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:10:57 PM
I remember when Jaz was nominated for 8 Grammys and went home with none
That was a sign of things to come ????
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: throwintheTAL on December 02, 2015, 02:11:27 PM
the lyrics can be repetitive, but her vocal arrangements and melodies >>>

they always feel very classic
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:12:07 PM
Same thing happened to India Arie
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:12:22 PM
Quote from: LISlikeliquor on December 02, 2015, 02:11:27 PM
the lyrics can be repetitive, but her vocal arrangements and melodies >>>

they always feel very classic
! Almost timeless
She never over does it with her vocal production
Probably why it's easy to get in
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
I thought Bey didn't write?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:13:41 PM
Doesn't she?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:14:46 PM
she does however ppl say she's lying every time
so...
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:16:02 PM
H
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:22:36 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
I thought Bey didn't write?
i think that was part of the .... :dead: nvm
:kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Glad you stopped before saying something illogical lolz
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
ssss
can't believe you didn't catch the inside jo.... nvm :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:29:09 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:22:36 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
I thought Bey didn't write?
i think that was part of the .... :dead: nvm
:kii:
h????
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
Hhghgh
This man REALLY was making the point that Adele writes better than a person who
doesn't write in his opinion
wow
:kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:31:45 PM
:dead: @ stRay dodging my airtight argument concerning the treatment of Bey vs. other black singers lolz

Did you run out of logic hun? :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
Hhghgh
This man REALLY was making the point that Adele writes better than a person who
doesn't write in his opinion
wow
:kii:
um yea that's called being witty, smart ppl do that from time to tim.....  actually nvm :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: MAY on December 02, 2015, 02:34:11 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:14:46 PM
she does

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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 02, 2015, 02:34:22 PM
It made no sense tbh. Am sorr'
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:34:28 PM
There is no valid argument of how Bey is treated vs other Black singers
besides that the Beyhive is the only loyal fanbase lolz

The thread is about Adele let's stay on topic :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:34:41 PM
Hhhhhh not this woman tryna tell me what I meant
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
Hhghgh
This man REALLY was making the point that Adele writes better than a person who
doesn't write in his opinion
wow
:kii:
um yea that's called being witty, smart ppl do that from time to tim.....  actually nvm :kii:
its stating the obvious only dumb ppl do that tbh
:kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:37:09 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 02, 2015, 02:34:11 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:14:46 PM
she does

b
:receipts:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:37:36 PM

I was through when Bey said she wrote Bootylicious on an airplane, but the flight attendant came back later and said she stole it from her :dead:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:37:51 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 02, 2015, 02:34:11 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:14:46 PM
she does

b
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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Admin on December 02, 2015, 02:41:03 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:37:36 PM

I was through when Bey said she wrote Bootylicious on an airplane, but the flight attendant came back later and said she stole it from her :dead:
ijhihhkk
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:41:24 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
Hhghgh
This man REALLY was making the point that Adele writes better than a person who
doesn't write in his opinion
wow
:kii:
um yea that's called being witty, smart ppl do that from time to tim.....  actually nvm :kii:
its stating the obvious only dumb ppl do that tbh
:kii:
how is it obvious tho when you say she does write :dead:

that was what the witty remark was based on. Wow you really don't use logic huh  :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:41:24 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
Hhghgh
This man REALLY was making the point that Adele writes better than a person who
doesn't write in his opinion
wow
:kii:
um yea that's called being witty, smart ppl do that from time to tim.....  actually nvm :kii:
its stating the obvious only dumb ppl do that tbh
:kii:
how is it obvious tho when you say she does write :dead:

that was what the witty remark was based on. Wow you really don't use logic huh  :kii:
its obvious because clearly he doesn't agree with what I believe. In his view Bey doesn't write. Therefore saying Adele writes better in his opinion is redundant.
Maybe you should spruce up your logic bro
:kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:41:24 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
Hhghgh
This man REALLY was making the point that Adele writes better than a person who
doesn't write in his opinion
wow
:kii:
um yea that's called being witty, smart ppl do that from time to tim.....  actually nvm :kii:
its stating the obvious only dumb ppl do that tbh
:kii:
how is it obvious tho when you say she does write :dead:

that was what the witty remark was based on. Wow you really don't use logic huh  :kii:
its obvious because clearly he doesn't agree with what I believe. In his view Bey doesn't write. Therefore saying Adele writes better in his opinion is redundant.
Maybe you should spruce up your logic bro
:kii:
huh? :dead:

stRay he made a witty remark to make light of you actually believing she does. Which also gave the comment humor :dead:

:dead: @ you not knowing what wit or logic is bro! :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: throwintheTAL on December 02, 2015, 02:49:56 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:31:45 PM
:dead: @ stRay dodging my airtight argument
everyone dodges your posts, hun
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:41:24 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
Hhghgh
This man REALLY was making the point that Adele writes better than a person who
doesn't write in his opinion
wow
:kii:
um yea that's called being witty, smart ppl do that from time to tim.....  actually nvm :kii:
its stating the obvious only dumb ppl do that tbh
:kii:
how is it obvious tho when you say she does write :dead:

that was what the witty remark was based on. Wow you really don't use logic huh  :kii:
its obvious because clearly he doesn't agree with what I believe. In his view Bey doesn't write. Therefore saying Adele writes better in his opinion is redundant.
Maybe you should spruce up your logic bro
:kii:
huh? :dead:

stRay he made a witty remark to make light of you actually believing she does. Which also gave the comment humor :dead:

:dead: @ you not knowing what wit or logic is bro! :kii:
nah he meant that Adele writes better than Bey lolz
Not you trying to play captain save a ho and clean up for him hhhh
I hadn't even mentioned Bey's writing in this thread  :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
I never said she doesn't write
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:53:22 PM
Ok, so do you believe she writes?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 02:55:18 PM
The little she does write is shitty
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: Culture on December 02, 2015, 02:55:18 PM
The little she does write is shitty
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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Ok
Bent where are you? I thought he didn't mean what he said?
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:56:42 PM
stRay all this scrambling
Just admit you didn't know what I meant when I used the word "witty"

It's ok bro, I ain't cool with you for your vocabulary skills lolz
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 02:59:24 PM
I definitely didn't get "witty" from the stuff you were describing
Do you know what it means?
I can explain if you like
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:02:04 PM
sssss
and whether he believed she writes or not had no bearing on the "wit" in his comment.

That's how I know you don't know what it is brah! LOLZ
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 03:04:07 PM
Yes it does. How can he be making fun of me for believing something, he also believes
that would be hypocritical and illogical.
Yea I think I'm going to have to refresh you on the definition of witty
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: AIDS! on December 02, 2015, 03:06:06 PM
You two really need find something better to do :uhh:
:dead:
Fuck and get over it already
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:09:33 PM
um he doesn't believe the same thing you do tho :dead:

He said what little writing she does is shitty

damn don't tell me you're rusty on reading comprehension too bro! :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 03:12:29 PM
He does believe the same thing I do
we both say she actually does write
only he isn't fond of her writing and I am
yea let me refer you to some adult learning courses
don't be embarrassed
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: MAY on December 02, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:37:36 PM

I was through when Bey said she wrote Bootylicious on an airplane, but the flight attendant came back later and said she stole it from her :dead:

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Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Zankou. on December 02, 2015, 03:13:40 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 02, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:37:36 PM

I was through when Bey said she wrote Bootylicious on an airplane, but the flight attendant came back later and said she stole it from her :dead:

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wait this happened :uhh:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: GRILL on December 02, 2015, 03:13:40 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 02, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:37:36 PM

I was through when Bey said she wrote Bootylicious on an airplane, but the flight attendant came back later and said she stole it from her :dead:

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da

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wait this happened :uhh:
no
Bent is freaking LOONEY
:kii: :kii: :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:16:56 PM
um... Yea you definitely listed two different viewpoints. Discrediting your own logic n stuffs lolz

Furthermore, it still has nothing to do with me saying he made a witty remark . Which re-enforces my logic being superior to yours :dead:

Damn You've been on those drugs again nigga? :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
No I listed the same belief but different preferences
Furthermore, it wouldn't be logical or witty, to make light of a person believing something you also believe
so yea what's your zip code? I'll google the closest Adult Learning Center for you
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: throwintheTAL on December 02, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: GRILL on December 02, 2015, 03:13:40 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 02, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 02:37:36 PM

I was through when Bey said she wrote Bootylicious on an airplane, but the flight attendant came back later and said she stole it from her :dead:

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d
a

da

das
d
asdassssssssssssss

wait this happened :uhh:
no
Bent is freaking LOONEY
:kii: :kii: :kii:
he stays makin shit up
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:27:27 PM
Well let me just break it down to you

You said Adele's writing is horrible
Jayda said its better than Bey's
You asked him if Bey writes
And he asked you "doesn't she"

See.... in this exchange, Jayda was using wit. Because you said Adele was a bad writer and he said Bey's worse.

Nowhere did he initially say she didn't write. Which negates your whole, same point of view logic

:kii:
sooooooo ... you done being schooled? Or you still don't understand what "witty" is bro? LOLZ
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 03:28:58 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:27:27 PM
Well let me just break it down to you

You said Adele's writing is horrible

no I didn't
Guess you'll be starting with remedial English huh? Lolz
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:30:17 PM
SS
Talisas picture this

My dick
In Your mouth

You're shutting the fuck up
And I'm choking the living shit outta you

We both gain a win
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:31:41 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 02:08:33 PM
Nothing at all :dead:
yea ... you did with this post :dead:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: BAPHOMET. on December 02, 2015, 03:33:47 PM
[youtube width=1 height=1 autoplay=1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFayLAuH6p4[/youtube]


:ohwow:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 03:35:17 PM
That post was actually agreeing  what He said
which was that it's not special
chhhhgb
Bent are you actually dumb?
Please tell me this is an act :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:40:13 PM
sssssss

oh so at first you didn't say it

But now it was just agreeing :dead:

BOY :dead:
Just admit you got outwitted and didn't understand :kii:

Besides, You should be used to the inferior feeling by now from dealing with me :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: throwintheTAL on December 02, 2015, 03:45:27 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 03:28:58 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:27:27 PM
Well let me just break it down to you

You said Adele's writing is horrible

no I didn't
Guess you'll be starting with remedial English huh? Lolz
:ohwow: :plzstop:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: throwintheTAL on December 02, 2015, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 03:35:17 PM
That post was actually agreeing  what He said
which was that it's not special
chhhhgb
Bent are you actually dumb?
Please tell me this is an act :kii:
:kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:50:58 PM
ssssssssssss

Talisas I'm never gonna fuck you. Stop wagging that tail in my face lil sis
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: throwintheTAL on December 02, 2015, 03:53:07 PM
ur just upset that Ray beat you in an argument vv;v;v

who lets that happen? :dead: ur thru
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 03:54:21 PM
ssssssss

you're a fucking idiot :kii:
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 02, 2015, 04:13:30 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 12:56:07 PM
And if we do wanna talk color relations and unfairness

Then Adele is selling more for the same reason Beyonc? and Tina had Kelly looking like a Heath bar dipped in kool aid so many years

And the gorls STILL don't support Kelly as much even tho they sound alike vocally :dead: and Kelly dancing better

Like ssssss

Get outta here with this white this, white that mess. :dead:

It's happening within your OWN iTunes library
(http://i41.tinypic.com/hvw8iw.gif)
Even if kelly was a better dancer (which is bull) she definetly cant sing better than Beyonce or perform better. Kelly is a flop because she's lazy and she picks wack songs. Stop blaming Bey for kelly being basic as fuck. Even letoya sold more albums than kelly ever did.
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Genesis on December 02, 2015, 04:15:11 PM
Wow adele selling millions while india arie, jill scott, ledisi etc will never happen outside of bet these days
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: RAY7 on December 02, 2015, 04:15:45 PM
Great points Gen!
Title: Re: David Otunga (J Hud's man) briefly speaks on Adele and R&B artists
Post by: Bentley! on December 02, 2015, 05:34:22 PM
Quote from: ........ on December 02, 2015, 04:15:45 PM
Great points Gen!
i love my sis Gen
But she placed all the blame on Kelly

Kelly is not lazy by any means :dead:

Weren't her and Bey running the same hills in high heels or nah?

Have a seat on the illogical bench son! :kii: