black men who are obsessed with color and hair texture
we see dark skinned, unambiguously black women talking about this all the time
as part of their larger plight
but actually encountering one of these men is solid proof that these things aren't a figment of their imagination.
they're not making shit up.
and it's not just something that exists on social media
flat out saying mess like "i don't want want no bald headed scallywag"
"i want my girl to have hair like THAT. "
"she has options...i bet she told the darkies to get to the back! hahahahah "
this is real shit that men say when they FEEL they're in the company of people who may not be offended by it.
yeah they are "jokes" but we know there is truth and real shit behind them.
the smartest thing to do is not attack these men and label them so quickly ...because they will come defensive and not absorb ANYTHING u have to say.
but gently engage them in conversation and PUSH them into questioning WHY they think these "jokes" are OK
make them WONDER why they feel a need to put those statements out there.
that same man is now second guessing a LOT of shit he says.
like "wait :diddraispoot: was that colorist ? was that texturist? "
the latter term being one he just learned. he now has a NAME for a lot of the shit he says.
when u know better you do better.
protect black women . at ALL times. not just for show on social media.
OMF 200 woke points from the title alone
Let me calculate the rest
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Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 08:38:01 AM
flat out saying mess like "i don't want want no bald headed scallywag"
-50
Gonna have to deduct a few here
You were outta line
Quote from: Banana Powder🦋 on May 17, 2021, 08:42:05 AM
OMF 200 woke points from the title alone
Let me calculate the rest
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I'm sorry but the term 'texturist' makes me scream
Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 08:53:42 AM
Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
they are?
This is so sad.
https://www.instagram.com/p/COnvnYVh-c4/?igshid=94nj3oidvdx3
If you say unambiguously one more damn time
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Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
they are?
we're talking about desirability.
not the cops
sddssdsd
NM thought unambiguous gave an exotic tea but it's the opposite
Carry on
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Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
they are?
we're talking about desirability.
not the cops
sddssdsd
even so being reduced to some walking black dildo and nothing more is isn't it to me
Quote from: Marilyn on May 17, 2021, 08:55:45 AM
This is so sad.
https://www.instagram.com/p/COnvnYVh-c4/?igshid=94nj3oidvdx3
weren't you making fun of Vonc's complexion the other day
Quote from: Banana Powder🦋 on May 17, 2021, 08:58:10 AM
NM thought unambiguous gave an exotic tea but it's the opposite
Carry on
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right.
im mindful of making a distinction because black women are now making that distinction themselves.
it's real shit
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 08:53:42 AM
Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
this is still an issue tho. your example is the kind of thing these men (and black men in general) feel like they have to live up to or else they're not valid because of a particular stereotype.
Yeah when you KEEP fuckin with me Imma say some shit back. Completely different than banning somebody from the club because they dark
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Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
they are?
we're talking about desirability.
not the cops
sddssdsd
even so being reduced to some walking black dildo and nothing more is isn't it to me
!!!!
objectification isn't it.
Quote from: Marilyn on May 17, 2021, 09:01:21 AM
Yeah when you KEEP fuckin with me Imma say some shit back. Completely different than banning somebody from the club because they dark
um no :dead:
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Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
they are?
we're talking about desirability.
not the cops
sddssdsd
even so being reduced to some walking black dildo and nothing more is isn't it to me
well ur not a heterosexual black male who benefits from it so that's understandable
but it's not just about sex in itself, it's also about darker skin being seen as more "masculine"
more strong, a protector.
your HUSBAND. your baby daddy.
i mean do we really have to go thru all of this? i thought we knew this stuff.
sfnsdnfdndfndfsnfdsdfsndsnd
this is kinda entering 101 territory.
or a conversation only about how white gays treat black gays possibly.
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Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
they are?
we're talking about desirability.
not the cops
sddssdsd
even so being reduced to some walking black dildo and nothing more is isn't it to me
well ur not a heterosexual black male who benefits from it so that's understandable
but it's not just about sex in itself, it's also about darker skin being seen as more "masculine"
more strong, a protector.
i mean do we really have to go thru all of this? i thought we knew this stuff.
sfnsdnfdndfndfsnfdsdfsndsnd
this is kinda enterting 101 territory
oh hun r u saying that gay black men aren't objectified in the same way straight ones are? :dead:
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Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
they are?
we're talking about desirability.
not the cops
sddssdsd
even so being reduced to some walking black dildo and nothing more is isn't it to me
well ur not a heterosexual black male who benefits from it so that's understandable
but it's not just about sex in itself, it's also about darker skin being seen as more "masculine"
more strong, a protector.
i mean do we really have to go thru all of this? i thought we knew this stuff.
sfnsdnfdndfndfsnfdsdfsndsnd
this is kinda enterting 101 territory
oh hun r u saying that gay black men aren't objectified in the same way straight ones are? :dead:
read my edit above
Quotethis is kinda enterting 101 territory
or a conversation only about how white gays treat black gays possibly.
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 09:03:25 AM
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Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
they are?
we're talking about desirability.
not the cops
sddssdsd
even so being reduced to some walking black dildo and nothing more is isn't it to me
well ur not a heterosexual black male who benefits from it so that's understandable
but it's not just about sex in itself, it's also about darker skin being seen as more "masculine"
more strong, a protector.
i mean do we really have to go thru all of this? i thought we knew this stuff.
sfnsdnfdndfndfsnfdsdfsndsnd
this is kinda enterting 101 territory
Yh and those things you listed is also limiting, restricting and harmful to black men
and as a black GAY men we know this first hand
how is this turning into thread to cry for hetero black men?
sdffdsdssfsfsd
we all know who has it the worst.
besides, i thought yall hated hetero black men anyway. wtf
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
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Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
they are?
we're talking about desirability.
not the cops
sddssdsd
even so being reduced to some walking black dildo and nothing more is isn't it to me
well ur not a heterosexual black male who benefits from it so that's understandable
but it's not just about sex in itself, it's also about darker skin being seen as more "masculine"
more strong, a protector.
i mean do we really have to go thru all of this? i thought we knew this stuff.
sfnsdnfdndfndfsnfdsdfsndsnd
this is kinda enterting 101 territory
oh hun r u saying that gay black men aren't objectified in the same way straight ones are? :dead:
read my edit above
Quotethis is kinda enterting 101 territory
or a conversation only about how white gays treat black gays possibly.
am mean, whether gay or straight, black men are still put into a well-defined of who they should be.
And not only by non-black people either, if we wanna go THERE.
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
!!!!
It's no different from black women being objectified for having a particular body type, or Latinas being objectified for being spicy, etc.
The only stereotype you can maybe sorta spin into a positive is that Choke's ppl are always smart, but like you said, that's limiting.
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 09:07:17 AM
how is this turning into thread to cry for hetero black men?
Jjjjjjjjjjjjhj
no ones crying for hetero black men :dead:
but the same stereotypes that are placed on black hetero men aren't any different than the ones placed on black gay men, whether it's coming from non-black women or non black gay men
black men=aggressive, sexual deviants with BBC, there's an emphasis placed on our bodies and sexuality more than anything else.
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Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
unambiguously dark skinned black men do not have the same plight as unambiguously black dark skinned women
they actually benefit from the way they're portrayed in media.
OOOOH! mmmmmm dark skin kang! handle meh! bet his dick is huge :ohwow:
they are?
we're talking about desirability.
not the cops
sddssdsd
even so being reduced to some walking black dildo and nothing more is isn't it to me
well ur not a heterosexual black male who benefits from it so that's understandable
but it's not just about sex in itself, it's also about darker skin being seen as more "masculine"
more strong, a protector.
i mean do we really have to go thru all of this? i thought we knew this stuff.
sfnsdnfdndfndfsnfdsdfsndsnd
this is kinda enterting 101 territory
oh hun r u saying that gay black men aren't objectified in the same way straight ones are? :dead:
read my edit above
Quotethis is kinda enterting 101 territory
or a conversation only about how white gays treat black gays possibly.
am mean, whether gay or straight, black men are still put into a well-defined of who they should be.
And not only by non-black people either, if we wanna go THERE.
!!!! we also take these things and enforce upon ourselves :dead:
this is an honest question.
when did yall become hetero black male allies?
lsfdddsdsfdsds
i def remember the gorls saying black hetero men are trash and that kinda being the end of the discussion
no ifs, ands or buts , empathy or understanding about it
(although i didn't agree but eventually gave up)
i actually kinda go up and up for black hetero males and understand their plight as well
but i understand who needs the most protection right now. this thread was for them.
and i'll still stand up for the hetero black men when time comes.
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 09:12:33 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
!!!!
It's no different from black women being objectified for having a particular body type, or Latinas being objectified for being spicy, etc.
The only stereotype you can maybe sorta spin into a positive is that Choke's ppl are always smart, but like you said, that's limiting.
!!!
Yh black people like fried chicken...ok and we also like 52342534534 other things.
it's the general SWEEP and LIMITS that are placed upon us, we like X and ONLY like X or black men are X and they ALL like X.
it's not even about being an ally, it's just about common sense
most of here have fathers, uncles, grandparents, brothers, cousins who are straight black men, their treatment doesn't differ from ours in the wider context
You don't need to join a Hotep members club to see that tbh
ok so now that we've acknowledged that black men indeed have a struggle as well
back to dark skinned black women and how people shut them down and call them bitter black ugly darkie nappy heads simply for stating what's obvious.
they're not delusional.
A lot of Black women, ESPECIALLY unambiguously Black women are still just as obsessed with "good hair" as anyone else :kii:
The people who love your curls and want to touch them, are they Black men or women?
Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 09:19:39 AM
A lot of Black women, ESPECIALLY unambiguously Black women are still just as obsessed with "good hair" as anyone else :kii:
its not just an obsession in itself
but using those things as a form of oppression against others
yall talk about how hetero black men oppress other people in our community all the time. why the fuck am i getting pushback on this?
omg :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 09:22:07 AM
Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 09:19:39 AM
A lot of Black women, ESPECIALLY unambiguously Black women are still just as obsessed with "good hair" as anyone else :kii:
its not just an obsession in itself
but using those things as a form of oppression against others
yall talk about how hetero black men oppress other people in our community all the time. why the fuck am i getting pushback on this?
omg :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
so they're black women right? :dead: :dead:
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:31:55 AM
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 09:22:07 AM
Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 09:19:39 AM
A lot of Black women, ESPECIALLY unambiguously Black women are still just as obsessed with "good hair" as anyone else :kii:
its not just an obsession in itself
but using those things as a form of oppression against others
yall talk about how hetero black men oppress other people in our community all the time. why the fuck am i getting pushback on this?
omg :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
so they're black women right? :dead: :dead:
huh?
Coz lonz has a point
because 6/10 whenever I see some mess about black women's hair and complexion, the perp is usually another black women of a lighter complexion
Lipstick Alley is rife with that.
Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 09:21:26 AM
The people who love your curls and want to touch them, are they Black men or women?
good point
Quote from: L0NZ. on May 17, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Lol it goes both ways... women just are more impacted by it because their hair is so much of their identity
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oh. i see .
the crime isn't someone admiring something
the crime is taking what they admire and USING it against others.
the crime is screaming from the mountaintops "HEAR YE HEAR YE BALD HEADED DARKIES! LISTEN UPP!!!!"
ANYONE who is doing that , regardless of gender , is dead wrong. but we know that men often create and reinforce standards of beauty within their communities.
which in turn, can affect how women see themselves, present themselves and expect other women to present themselves.
can we just have a real conversation?
does that NOT make sense?
:guys:
and i didn't intend for this to be a "lets drag hetero black men yall lolz" thread
i don't want it to be taken that way. like not my mission at all.
i approached the man i mentioned in the OP with LOVE. very gently and took my time to educate him
because i know he himself is a bit of a victim as well if he's using that language. he's not the devil automatically.
this is more of a "when u see a black woman explaining her plight....listen to her. shit is REAL out here." thread
not just for us as members here , but any guests reading. it needs to be known that black women are not delusional and are not pulling shit out of their ass for pity points
How yawl feel that 90% of unambiguous hetero black men and women don't use faggots yet yawl in here advocating for both?
:ATLcameo:
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:17:45 AM
it's not even about being an ally, it's just about common sense
most of here have fathers, uncles, grandparents, brothers, cousins who are straight black men, their treatment doesn't differ from ours in the wider context
You don't need to join a Hotep members club to see that tbh
!!!!! especially when it comes to objectification or living up to a particular stereotype.
Minorities are almost never allowed to just BE like the majority (whites) are. That's something we can all relate to regardless of our sexuality or anything else.
Quote from: Banana Powder🦋 on May 17, 2021, 09:57:40 AM
How yawl feel that 90% of unambiguous hetero black men and women don't use faggots yet yawl in here advocating for both?
:ATLcameo:
It's about recognizing that we share the same plight hun.
I couldn't give less of a fuck if some random niggers don't use me.
:rudone:
Quote from: Banana Powder🦋 on May 17, 2021, 09:57:40 AM
How yawl feel that 90% of unambiguous hetero black men and women don't use faggots yet yawl in here advocating for both?
:ATLcameo:
black people were in here capping for black people lol
something you can't relate to nguyen :sobusyjetsetter:
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 09:44:37 AM
and i didn't intend for this to be a "lets drag hetero black men yall lolz" thread
i don't want it to be taken that way. like not my mission at all.
i approached the man i mentioned in the OP with LOVE. very gently and took my time to educate him
because i know he himself is a bit of a victim as well if he's using that language. he's not the devil automatically.
this is more of a "when u see a black woman explaining her plight....listen to her. shit is REAL out here." thread
not just for us as members here , but any guests reading. it needs to be known that black women are not delusional and are not pulling shit out of their ass for pity points
and this is a valid point.
but when it started to veer into 'black men benefit from objectification' is when i started to side-eye a bit.
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 09:44:37 AM
and i didn't intend for this to be a "lets drag hetero black men yall lolz" thread
i don't want it to be taken that way. like not my mission at all.
i approached the man i mentioned in the OP with LOVE. very gently and took my time to educate him
because i know he himself is a bit of a victim as well if he's using that language. he's not the devil automatically.
this is more of a "when u see a black woman explaining her plight....listen to her. shit is REAL out here." thread
not just for us as members here , but any guests reading. it needs to be known that black women are not delusional and are not pulling shit out of their ass for pity points
and this is a valid point.
but when it started to veer into 'black men benefit from objectification' is when i started to side-eye a bit.
i never said they benefit from "objectification" specifically.
maybe that's where it got a lil mixed up
my point was that the promotion of the dark skinned, ambiguously Black man in movies, shows etc. often is POSITIVE for their image in terms of desirability.
u can promote a black dark skinned black man with objectifying him.
he doesn't need to have his shirt off, grabbing his dick or any of that.
in other words, think of the phrase, "tall dark and handsome."
this phrase is often used when women describe somepne who they want to date and marry.
not someone who they're lookin to unleash their jungle fever on real quick and be done with them .
it's not always a fetish. it's positive promotion as well.
I mean either way it's still objectification :dead:
there's levels and different types of "objectification".
someone saying "he's such a beautiful dark skinned man. love it" is NOT the same as " oooooh that mandingo ....bet he could fuck me all night lolz i got dat jungle fever yall"
like c'mon. is there really a need to break this down?
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 10:08:41 AM
I mean either way it's still objectification :dead:
and i use quotes on "objectification " because saying someone is a beautiful dark skinned person is not objectifying them.
but if that's the definition yall wanna use for it all, i'll roll with it and try to separate it into types instead.
which should be obvious. but mess
especially when they are just casted just because they're "tall dark and handsome" and interchangeable
it's.....so 1D
yall were touching on FETISHization in here tbh.
if we wanna give it a straightforward definition
as it speaks more specifically to things such as skin color etc.
u can def objectify someone without fetishizing them. but yall are kinda putting them together as one IMO
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 10:12:26 AM
and i use quotes on "objectification " because saying someone is a beautiful dark skinned person is not objectifying them.
but if that's the definition yall wanna use for it all, i'll roll with it and try to separate it into types instead.
which should be obvious. but mess
of course not. it's just another physical attribute.
the issue is when people start to attach expectations with said physical attributes.
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 09:15:14 AM
this is an honest question.
when did yall become hetero black male allies?
lsfdddsdsfdsds
i def remember the gorls saying black hetero men are trash and that kinda being the end of the discussion
no ifs, ands or buts , empathy or understanding about it
(although i didn't agree but eventually gave up)
i actually kinda go up and up for black hetero males and understand their plight as well
but i understand who needs the most protection right now. this thread was for them.
and i'll still stand up for the hetero black men when time comes.
GEJIDKDLDKSVCCCCCCC
Yea I'm scrolling and squinting guys wtf
These monkeys don't need to be caped for
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 10:14:44 AM
yall were touching on FETISHization in here tbh.
if we wanna give it a straightforward definition
as it speaks more specifically to things such as skin color etc.
u can def objectify someone without fetishizing them. but yall are kinda putting them together as one IMO
well, according to goog' objectification is defined as:
Quotethe action of degrading someone to the status of a mere object.
fetishization is doing the same thing, just sexually.
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 10:02:15 AM
Quote from: Banana Powder🦋 on May 17, 2021, 09:57:40 AM
How yawl feel that 90% of unambiguous hetero black men and women don't use faggots yet yawl in here advocating for both?
:ATLcameo:
black people were in here capping for black people lol
something you can't relate to nguyen :sobusyjetsetter:
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Quote from: Banana Powder🦋 on May 17, 2021, 10:19:33 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 10:02:15 AM
Quote from: Banana Powder🦋 on May 17, 2021, 09:57:40 AM
How yawl feel that 90% of unambiguous hetero black men and women don't use faggots yet yawl in here advocating for both?
:ATLcameo:
black people were in here capping for black people lol
something you can't relate to nguyen :sobusyjetsetter:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b212932ab49d65a8be11e1a1acc4b7d2/tumblr_mwskcfbSoK1rqjc6fo1_250.gif)
It's where you get me my fried rice I ordered 40 mins ago chinkfag
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 10:19:05 AM
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 10:14:44 AM
yall were touching on FETISHization in here tbh.
if we wanna give it a straightforward definition
as it speaks more specifically to things such as skin color etc.
u can def objectify someone without fetishizing them. but yall are kinda putting them together as one IMO
well, according to goog' objectification is defined as:
Quotethe action of degrading someone to the status of a mere object.
fetishization is doing the same thing, just sexually.
not quite.
fetish speaks more to specific groups of people.
and we're speaking on specific groups. when we have a conversation about gay white men looking for black king kong dick, what's the first word we use?
objectification falls under it, but the bullseye...in this case at least (in terms of being more specific with what u guys were going for in here with actually referencing black dildos and such), is fetishization.
does that make sense?
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 10:25:15 AM
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 10:19:05 AM
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 10:14:44 AM
yall were touching on FETISHization in here tbh.
if we wanna give it a straightforward definition
as it speaks more specifically to things such as skin color etc.
u can def objectify someone without fetishizing them. but yall are kinda putting them together as one IMO
well, according to goog' objectification is defined as:
Quotethe action of degrading someone to the status of a mere object.
fetishization is doing the same thing, just sexually.
not quite.
fetish speaks more to specific groups of people.
and we're speaking on specific groups. when we have a conversation about gay white men looking for black king kong dick, what's the first word we use?
objectification falls under it, but the bullseye...in this case at least (in terms of being more specific with what u guys were going for in here with actually referencing black dildos and such), is fetishization.
does that make sense?
again, i'm just going by google's definition of objectification.
whether there's levels to it as you say is up to opinion i guess.
sooooooo ... a man you met said some colorist things he prolly grew up hearing .... and that reinforces the entire "black women are the most underprotected, disrespected, degraded creature on planet" movement?
just asking for context
he def grew up hearing it
he admitted to me that his mother told him not to bring home anyone darker than him with "nappy" hair.
and it def goes towards #protectblackwomen not just because he repeated/said it
but because i took time to help him understand why he SHOULDNT say it. and how it can affect the women he's talking about.
that's where the "protection" comes in.
it's all about thinking further than ourselves in that moment. watching the way we speak about one another.
like.... you dont HAVE to say shit like that. :plzstop: it costs u nothing to keep it to urself.
i know he felt that i may not have been offended but i wasnt gonna sit there and hehe and haha with him about it, or even be silent. im gonna call u on ur shit
i did it very nicely and gently. but i def checked him. and was ready for him to feel a type a way about it. and maybe be a lil mad at me . btut i couldn't care about that.
thankfully, he actually understood. and is now checking himself.
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
:butwait!:
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
Quote from: yummy on May 17, 2021, 10:16:35 AM
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 09:15:14 AM
this is an honest question.
when did yall become hetero black male allies?
lsfdddsdsfdsds
i def remember the gorls saying black hetero men are trash and that kinda being the end of the discussion
no ifs, ands or buts , empathy or understanding about it
(although i didn't agree but eventually gave up)
i actually kinda go up and up for black hetero males and understand their plight as well
but i understand who needs the most protection right now. this thread was for them.
and i'll still stand up for the hetero black men when time comes.
GEJIDKDLDKSVCCCCCCC
Yea I'm scrolling and squinting guys wtf
These monkeys don't need to be caped for
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
Benefit isn't the right word but within the black community dark skinned men aren't viewed as undesirable in the same way that dark skinned black women are. Look at all the dark skinned men who get light skinned women. You hardly ever see a light skinned man with a dark woman :plzstop:
Chris brown is trash omg
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
!!!
Like how the fuck is being reduced to your physical traits a benefit? :dead:
(https://i0.wp.com/bestofcomicbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Anna-Camp-smile-gif.gif?resize=419%2C525&ssl=1)
I would much rather have a big dark dong in me than a light skinned one
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
Benefit isn't the right word but within the black community dark skinned men aren't viewed as undesirable in the same way that dark skinned black women are. Look at all the dark skinned men who get light skinned women. You hardly ever see a light skinned man with a dark woman :plzstop:
Yh I get that, but it isn't a "benefit" as the OP was implying it was
What's not clicking
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
Benefit isn't the right word but within the black community dark skinned men aren't viewed as undesirable in the same way that dark skinned black women are. Look at all the dark skinned men who get light skinned women. You hardly ever see a light skinned man with a dark woman :plzstop:
Yh I get that, but it isn't a "benefit" as the OP was implying it was
I think his main point is that dark black women have it the worst
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:09:28 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
Benefit isn't the right word but within the black community dark skinned men aren't viewed as undesirable in the same way that dark skinned black women are. Look at all the dark skinned men who get light skinned women. You hardly ever see a light skinned man with a dark woman :plzstop:
Yh I get that, but it isn't a "benefit" as the OP was implying it was
I think his main point is that dark black women have it the worst
Yh I get that too, what I didn't agree was that black men benefit from their stereotypes unlike black women.
I don't think anyone benefits from a stereotype.
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
!!!
Like how the fuck is being reduced to your physical traits a benefit? :dead:
ummm look around.
ever heard of the media? music industry? hollywood? modeling?
where your physical traits can work FOR or AGAINST you depending on what's considered to be desirable?
it's kinda a thing.
and it doesn't stop there. it goes for romance too.
ssssss
yea and I definitely agree with the approach you say is best. Sometimes people seriously just don't know :dead:
I have my thoughts on the whole underprotected, undervalued, disrespected thing
I mean ... it's kinda anti ....
cause i mean yes it happens, you can't deny what's happened to black women, but there's a whole other side of the coin they don't talk about
which is how the black woman was actually quite respected within the black community :dead:
think of all the older black women who were amazing and everybody looked up to.
aren't those the kinda women Tyler Perry used to hang out with, so he put them in his shows?
the black grandmother is a matriarch like no other, because they knew what was happening, how the culture was being broken.
but now we have this generation of ATL Freaknik attendees trying to tell us to respect them more?
no girl, you should've been in the house when grandma told you to be, when your mom was telling you to stop being fast you should've been at bible study instead of running them streets
and also the fact black women don't like to admit, they wanted the attention of white men and wanted to compete with white women. I think it's crazy that black women blame black men for that, when it was happening to them just the same. "oh you dusty! look at your nappy hair! look at yo clothes dusty nigga!" . Everybody essentially is guilty because everybody was affected by it. So then the finger pointing starts and black women just get louder and louder.
and they forget that they will look down on a black man for "not having shit, ain't ever gone have shit just like yo daddy!" ... but pull up and work for Parker who is only the CEO because his granddaddy had slaves.
what's the one thing ppl always say about white women as a whole. They dumb asses is gonna stick to a white man and support. That's why trump almost won AGAIN. So .... Black women definitely don't do that, and they don't understand a black man ISN'T gonna have what you're looking for because he's BUILDING what you're looking for, that's what Kevin Samuels is trying to tell them. Now they'll be dumb over a nigga, but they not gonna support the black men out here trying. Am I right?
it's like .. pick a side. either we in this together or not
if we gone hashtag #protectblackwomen
I better see #supportblackmen right behind that bih
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 08:59:04 AM
Quote from: Marilyn on May 17, 2021, 08:55:45 AM
This is so sad.
https://www.instagram.com/p/COnvnYVh-c4/?igshid=94nj3oidvdx3
weren't you making fun of Vonc's complexion the other day
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
!!!
Like how the fuck is being reduced to your physical traits a benefit? :dead:
ummm look around.
ever heard of the media? music industry? hollywood? modeling?
where your physical traits can work FOR or AGAINST you depending on what's considered to be desirable?
it's kinda a thing.
and it doesn't stop there. it goes for romance too.
I know how things work babe. Like I said before, objectively recognizing physical attributes =/= objectification.
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
!!!
Like how the fuck is being reduced to your physical traits a benefit? :dead:
ummm look around.
ever heard of the media? music industry? hollywood? modeling?
where your physical traits can work FOR or AGAINST you depending on what's considered to be desirable?
it's kinda a thing.
and it doesn't stop there. it goes for romance too.
I know how things work babe. Like I said before, objectively recognizing physical attributes =/= objectification.
you don't think j-lo was objectified and benefited from it?
spicy! latina!! oooo papi!!!!
it was absolutely objectification. it was absolutely playing off of stereotypes
it was absolutely reducing her to a spanish sex kitten
and that BENEFITED her. she's RICH.
like....
do i need to pull more got damn examples?
(https://www.tugboatlogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/272b18d9-81ed-4e51-94b9-8f3ff2c573a1_Jackie-Chan-confused-about-the-top-3-things-that-delay-your-SOC-2.png)
Quote from: Bentley. HARRIS! on May 17, 2021, 11:13:39 AM
ssssss
yea and I definitely agree with the approach you say is best. Sometimes people seriously just don't know :dead:
I have my thoughts on the whole underprotected, undervalued, disrespected thing
I mean ... it's kinda anti ....
cause i mean yes it happens, you can't deny what's happened to black women, but there's a whole other side of the coin they don't talk about
which is how the black woman was actually quite respected within the black community :dead:
think of all the older black women who were amazing and everybody looked up to.
aren't those the kinda women Tyler Perry used to hang out with, so he put them in his shows?
the black grandmother is a matriarch like no other, because they knew what was happening, how the culture was being broken.
but now we have this generation of ATL Freaknik attendees trying to tell us to respect them more?
no girl, you should've been in the house when grandma told you to be, when your mom was telling you to stop being fast you should've been at bible study instead of running them streets
and also the fact black women don't like to admit, they wanted the attention of white men and wanted to compete with white women. I think it's crazy that black women blame black men for that, when it was happening to them just the same. "oh you dusty! look at your nappy hair! look at yo clothes dusty nigga!" . Everybody essentially is guilty because everybody was affected by it. So then the finger pointing starts and black women just get louder and louder.
and they forget that they will look down on a black man for "not having shit, ain't ever gone have shit just like yo daddy!" ... but pull up and work for Parker who is only the CEO because his granddaddy had slaves.
what's the one thing ppl always say about white women as a whole. They dumb asses is gonna stick to a white man and support. That's why trump almost won AGAIN. So .... Black women definitely don't do that, and they don't understand a black man ISN'T gonna have what you're looking for because he's BUILDING what you're looking for, that's what Kevin Samuels is trying to tell them. Now they'll be dumb over a nigga, but they not gonna support the black men out here trying. Am I right?
it's like .. pick a side. either we in this together or not
if we gone hashtag #protectblackwomen
I better see #supportblackmen right behind that bih
:guys:
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
!!!
Like how the fuck is being reduced to your physical traits a benefit? :dead:
ummm look around.
ever heard of the media? music industry? hollywood? modeling?
where your physical traits can work FOR or AGAINST you depending on what's considered to be desirable?
it's kinda a thing.
and it doesn't stop there. it goes for romance too.
I know how things work babe. Like I said before, objectively recognizing physical attributes =/= objectification.
you don't think j-lo was objectified and benefited from it?
spicy! latina!! oooo papi!!!!
it was absolutely objectification. it was absolutely playing off of stereotypes
it was absolutely reducing her to a spanish sex kitten
and that BENEFITED her. she's RICH.
like....
do i need to pull more got damn examples?
(https://www.tugboatlogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/272b18d9-81ed-4e51-94b9-8f3ff2c573a1_Jackie-Chan-confused-about-the-top-3-things-that-delay-your-SOC-2.png)
Leleldkkdkdkdkdkfkfkfkfkfkfkofofofofofooff
but yeah bent some people legit don't know.
so u cant always be on some "OH MUH GAH! U COLORIST! U TEXTURIST!!!! :fuming: " right owt the gate
someone's wall will immediately go up and you'll end up arguing with them instead of conversing. which means no results
if you really care and want to get thru to them you have to MASSAGE it a bit.
get them to the point where they're questioning themselves a bit. like wait...why DO i say that? :uhh:
just find someone who loves you for you. Alot of times some ppl focus on he men or women who dont want them. The time you spent wondering why Man A doesnt want a bald headed scalawag, Man B loves short haired women but youre too busy fuming on lipstick alley to see him
Quote from: Troye on May 17, 2021, 11:34:09 AM
just find someone who loves you for you. Alot of times some ppl focus on he men or women who dont want them. The time you spent wondering why Man A doesnt want a bald headed scalawag, Man B loves short haired women but youre too busy fuming on lipstick alley to see him
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Quote from: Troye on May 17, 2021, 11:34:09 AM
Man B loves short haired women but youre too busy fuming on lipstick alley to see him
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
im in tears
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 11:21:30 AM
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Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
!!!
Like how the fuck is being reduced to your physical traits a benefit? :dead:
ummm look around.
ever heard of the media? music industry? hollywood? modeling?
where your physical traits can work FOR or AGAINST you depending on what's considered to be desirable?
it's kinda a thing.
and it doesn't stop there. it goes for romance too.
I know how things work babe. Like I said before, objectively recognizing physical attributes =/= objectification.
you don't think j-lo was objectified and benefited from it?
spicy! latina!! oooo papi!!!!
it was absolutely objectification. it was absolutely playing off of stereotypes
it was absolutely reducing her to a spanish sex kitten
and that BENEFITED her. she's RICH.
like....
do i need to pull more got damn examples?
(https://www.tugboatlogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/272b18d9-81ed-4e51-94b9-8f3ff2c573a1_Jackie-Chan-confused-about-the-top-3-things-that-delay-your-SOC-2.png)
Like I said, I know how things work.
:omgwatshappening:
People make money from being objectified all the time.
My thing was that I don't think Consuela wants to be called 'caliente' by her white boss when she's just tryna do some clean'
Being objectified might have benefited J-Lo but it's not just J-Lo that's affected by said objectification.
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: pretti ghetto on May 17, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: Cartierline on May 17, 2021, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: JCJ on May 17, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Sor' but black men don't benefit from racial stereotypes either, gay straight dark or light
the issue isn't that stereotypes are only insulting and offensive, is that fact that they are also limiting.
and this isn't giving a a bit of "whataboutism!" either
In terms of intraracial desirability they definitely do.
benefit in what way?
!!!
Like how the fuck is being reduced to your physical traits a benefit? :dead:
ummm look around.
ever heard of the media? music industry? hollywood? modeling?
where your physical traits can work FOR or AGAINST you depending on what's considered to be desirable?
it's kinda a thing.
and it doesn't stop there. it goes for romance too.
I know how things work babe. Like I said before, objectively recognizing physical attributes =/= objectification.
you don't think j-lo was objectified and benefited from it?
spicy! latina!! oooo papi!!!!
it was absolutely objectification. it was absolutely playing off of stereotypes
it was absolutely reducing her to a spanish sex kitten
and that BENEFITED her. she's RICH.
like....
do i need to pull more got damn examples?
(https://www.tugboatlogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/272b18d9-81ed-4e51-94b9-8f3ff2c573a1_Jackie-Chan-confused-about-the-top-3-things-that-delay-your-SOC-2.png)
Like I said, I know how things work.
:omgwatshappening:
People make money from being objectified all the time.
My thing was that I don't think Consuela wants to be called 'caliente' by her white boss when she's just tryna do some clean'
Being objectified might have benefited J-Lo but it's not just J-Lo that's affected by said objectification.
yes obviously there are downsides to certain promotion
but if you're in the market for a man and its considered hot and valuable to be a "spicy latina"
you don't have to identify as that to benefit from the promotion.
you don't even have to KNOW you're benefiting from it, to benefit from it.
just as many white people are completely oblivious to how they benefit from certain things.
it's all about VALUE that is placed on certain traits. and how people can knowingly or unknowingly cash in it on that value to get things that can drastically change their lives. relationships, career opportunities. let's step out of disneyworld for one second and dig into the real.
but what happens when your group is actually seen as LESS valuable? that affects u in the reverse way.
that's where PRIVILEGE comes from, in this case. this is how it is possible to BENEFIT from promotion of your group - whether it be sexualized or not. the fact and point is that, ITS POSSIBLE TO BENEFIT FROM IT!
is this starting to make sense?
Quote from: Jayda X on May 17, 2021, 08:59:04 AM
Quote from: Marilyn on May 17, 2021, 08:55:45 AM
This is so sad.
https://www.instagram.com/p/COnvnYVh-c4/?igshid=94nj3oidvdx3
weren't you making fun of Vonc's complexion the other day
Quote from: Marilyn on May 17, 2021, 09:01:21 AM
Yeah
Completely different than banning somebody from the club because they dark
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https://youtu.be/Sjx9oSJDAVQ
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