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Quote from: Aalonso on March 20, 2016, 08:35:53 PMQuote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:30:21 PMQuoteThe sense in someone saying a message isnt there, and in the same breath downplaying that same nonexistent message lies in what 'disingenuous' refers to. Still making very little sense. If there is no message, how is it received? That's like the basics of communication. A message, the channel and the recipient. You cannot accept what is not there. View the videos I posted above.The reception of this 'message' is not what's in question.Oh, we all know what was received through this song. Fuck me good and take me to Red Lobster. No one questioned that.The intent behind the attempt at being a political channel, is what I mentioned.
Quote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:30:21 PMQuoteThe sense in someone saying a message isnt there, and in the same breath downplaying that same nonexistent message lies in what 'disingenuous' refers to. Still making very little sense. If there is no message, how is it received? That's like the basics of communication. A message, the channel and the recipient. You cannot accept what is not there. View the videos I posted above.
QuoteThe sense in someone saying a message isnt there, and in the same breath downplaying that same nonexistent message lies in what 'disingenuous' refers to.
Quote from: Baphomet. on March 20, 2016, 08:35:58 PMIts not like the video was cheap to make or anything that went into it.
Quote from: Baphomet. on March 20, 2016, 08:31:06 PMQuote from: Aalonso on March 20, 2016, 08:24:22 PMQuote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:17:49 PMFor starters:Quote"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.I can comfortably say that Malcolm X knew what he was doing as well. Am I calling him an opportunist? Does clear intent automatically equate to that? According to you, it appears that it does. But then again, I never SPECIFIED what I meant when I stated that "she knew she was doing". You interpreted it in a way that supports YOUR argument.Still reading.What did you mean?Whenever I see you say "she knew what she was doing" it seemed to me like you meant she knew how to cause controversy. To cause all this convasashun. When Kandi and Todd talk about divorce before a season on RHOA, it's promo for the upcoming season. So to "tackle" a social issue and use the biggest platform on TV to do it at the start of a new era spells marketing/opportunist to most, not organic, genuine, or out of necessity/passion.1. wtf 2. That was kinda the point. Put it on the biggest platform for all to see. 3. Its a new song for the new era. But an opportunistic individual would've tried to milk it for everything that it could get from it in this day & age. Like... money from VEVO views (not on there), Streaming services money, and on itunes.
Quote from: Aalonso on March 20, 2016, 08:24:22 PMQuote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:17:49 PMFor starters:Quote"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.I can comfortably say that Malcolm X knew what he was doing as well. Am I calling him an opportunist? Does clear intent automatically equate to that? According to you, it appears that it does. But then again, I never SPECIFIED what I meant when I stated that "she knew she was doing". You interpreted it in a way that supports YOUR argument.Still reading.What did you mean?Whenever I see you say "she knew what she was doing" it seemed to me like you meant she knew how to cause controversy. To cause all this convasashun. When Kandi and Todd talk about divorce before a season on RHOA, it's promo for the upcoming season. So to "tackle" a social issue and use the biggest platform on TV to do it at the start of a new era spells marketing/opportunist to most, not organic, genuine, or out of necessity/passion.
Quote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:17:49 PMFor starters:Quote"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.I can comfortably say that Malcolm X knew what he was doing as well. Am I calling him an opportunist? Does clear intent automatically equate to that? According to you, it appears that it does. But then again, I never SPECIFIED what I meant when I stated that "she knew she was doing". You interpreted it in a way that supports YOUR argument.Still reading.
Quote"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.
Quote from: Baphomet. on March 20, 2016, 08:35:58 PMIm sorr' i've just never heard of a opportunistic Artist that would prefer Woo they talking about me on the news (the common person would probably love this or a Z-List Celeb)
Quote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:34:37 PMQuotethe fascniation with this SONG, puzzles me.Then just say that, instead of trying to downplay its impact. Or ignoring the fact that others received the message. Others, as in, people who are not stans of Beyonce. lol
Quotethe fascniation with this SONG, puzzles me.
Quote from: RekeRocka on March 20, 2016, 08:39:37 PMQuote from: Baphomet. on March 20, 2016, 08:31:06 PMQuote from: Aalonso on March 20, 2016, 08:24:22 PMQuote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:17:49 PMFor starters:Quote"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.I can comfortably say that Malcolm X knew what he was doing as well. Am I calling him an opportunist? Does clear intent automatically equate to that? According to you, it appears that it does. But then again, I never SPECIFIED what I meant when I stated that "she knew she was doing". You interpreted it in a way that supports YOUR argument.Still reading.What did you mean?Whenever I see you say "she knew what she was doing" it seemed to me like you meant she knew how to cause controversy. To cause all this convasashun. When Kandi and Todd talk about divorce before a season on RHOA, it's promo for the upcoming season. So to "tackle" a social issue and use the biggest platform on TV to do it at the start of a new era spells marketing/opportunist to most, not organic, genuine, or out of necessity/passion.1. wtf 2. That was kinda the point. Put it on the biggest platform for all to see. 3. Its a new song for the new era. But an opportunistic individual would've tried to milk it for everything that it could get from it in this day & age. Like... money from VEVO views (not on there), Streaming services money, and on itunes. no one makes much money from vevo views and streams lol that's nothing It's ok for her to be an opportunist. It's a business if you think she wasn't being just that, then ur wrong IMO. She's benefited from the timing and platform of it all, period. As she should
Quote from: Baphomet. on March 20, 2016, 08:41:43 PMIs it Cocoa? I didnt quote you the other, n the other time. and im not going to this time. SCOOT. I dont use.
Quote from: Baphomet. on March 20, 2016, 08:43:48 PMdthen dont quote me again.. ever. Simple.
Quote from: RekeRocka on March 20, 2016, 08:41:23 PMQuote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:34:37 PMQuotethe fascniation with this SONG, puzzles me.Then just say that, instead of trying to downplay its impact. Or ignoring the fact that others received the message. Others, as in, people who are not stans of Beyonce. lolif anything, Fox News misinterpreted the lyrics and created their own mess for their own agendaDoesn't really equate to Beyonc? having some profound message at all
Quote from: Baphomet. on March 20, 2016, 08:43:14 PMQuote from: RekeRocka on March 20, 2016, 08:39:37 PMQuote from: Baphomet. on March 20, 2016, 08:31:06 PMQuote from: Aalonso on March 20, 2016, 08:24:22 PMQuote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 08:17:49 PMFor starters:Quote"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist.I can comfortably say that Malcolm X knew what he was doing as well. Am I calling him an opportunist? Does clear intent automatically equate to that? According to you, it appears that it does. But then again, I never SPECIFIED what I meant when I stated that "she knew she was doing". You interpreted it in a way that supports YOUR argument.Still reading.What did you mean?Whenever I see you say "she knew what she was doing" it seemed to me like you meant she knew how to cause controversy. To cause all this convasashun. When Kandi and Todd talk about divorce before a season on RHOA, it's promo for the upcoming season. So to "tackle" a social issue and use the biggest platform on TV to do it at the start of a new era spells marketing/opportunist to most, not organic, genuine, or out of necessity/passion.1. wtf 2. That was kinda the point. Put it on the biggest platform for all to see. 3. Its a new song for the new era. But an opportunistic individual would've tried to milk it for everything that it could get from it in this day & age. Like... money from VEVO views (not on there), Streaming services money, and on itunes. no one makes much money from vevo views and streams lol that's nothing It's ok for her to be an opportunist. It's a business if you think she wasn't being just that, then ur wrong IMO. She's benefited from the timing and platform of it all, period. As she shouldWhat did she benefit from possibly tarnishing herself?
Quote from: jareezy on March 20, 2016, 04:55:02 PMFormation did not snatch me like it did the rest of you girls, I just can't go up for it at all. I hope she has a few more songs in this "movie" and I hope she goes back to Saaanging because everything she been serving since the Beyonc? era has lacked the Beyonc? I grew to love the Beyonc? that saang down #ImJustSayin
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