Is there a certain way people have to act for you to label them masculine or feminine?
Certain physical traits or non-physical qualities?
Does either hold more weight when you're looking for friends or partners?
No judgement guys!
:ohwow: :ohwow: :ohwow:
I don't define either. It reflects patriarchy and a number of social mores to which I don't subscribe.
Personally and honestly I don't care. Its not that important to me. Be who you are. Be yourself. No judgement on my behalf.
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on October 14, 2016, 11:54:26 AM
I don't define either. It reflects patriarchy and a number of social mores to which I don't subscribe.
Hmm so you don't have your own personal interpretation of these concepts? Cool tbh.
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Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 11:56:29 AM
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on October 14, 2016, 11:54:26 AM
I don't define either. It reflects patriarchy and a number of social mores to which I don't subscribe.
Hmm so you don't have your own personal interpretation of these concepts? Cool tbh.
I used to have ideas that were ingrained in me as a kid and reinforced as an adult. They mean nothing to me anymore. Gender expression is fluid to me and gender roles are antiquated IMO.
I don't care what you are as long as you're not obnoxious or looking to make a spectacle of yourself every time you leave the house.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 12:00:12 PM
I don't care what you are as long as you're not obnoxious or looking to make a spectacle of yourself every time you leave the house.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
other than that I can deal.
In terms of looking for friends, as long as I can trust them then I dont care.
In terms of a mate, I prefer someone that is true to themselves but I normally am more attracted to a masculine guy.
I think alot of men have some sort of feminine trait, whether theyre open about it or not is another story. Yes, there's certain ways men can act that determine if theyre masculine or feminine. I mean of course, how else could that be determined? If i think ur effeminate then u probably speak a certain way, dress a certain way, have what i would consider a more feminine demeanor, or a combo of all. I more than likely wouldn't have an overly feminine male friend..........or an overly masculine female friend for that matter
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on October 14, 2016, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 11:56:29 AM
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on October 14, 2016, 11:54:26 AM
I don't define either. It reflects patriarchy and a number of social mores to which I don't subscribe.
Hmm so you don't have your own personal interpretation of these concepts? Cool tbh.
I used to have ideas that were ingrained in me as a kid and reinforced as an adult. They mean nothing to me anymore. Gender expression is fluid to me and gender roles are antiquated IMO.
I actually agree for the most part
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 12:00:12 PM
I don't care what you are as long as you're not obnoxious or looking to make a spectacle of yourself every time you leave the house.
I only distinguish male and female.
What is masculine or feminine we cannot define, society has already done that. Those definitions are however in my opinion sexist, mostly arbitrary and foolish.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 12:03:05 PM
I think alot of men have some sort of feminine trait, whether theyre open about it or not is another story. Yes, there's certain ways men can act that determine if theyre masculine or feminine. I mean of course, how else could that be determined? If i think ur effeminate then u probably speak a certain way, dress a certain way, have what i would consider a more feminine demeanor, or a combo of all. I more than likely wouldn't have an overly feminine male friend..........or an overly masculine female friend for that matter
I definitely agree with the first sentence LaPickpocket.
Im hoping someone gives specifics on what these traits entail or exhibit tho.
Hey yall, I capitalized "YOU" for a reason. Im aware of what society says is fem and masc, im asking you how you feel about that binary concept, my bad if if my title is misleading.
Also surprised to see some of you so non-gender conforming. Kinda cool.
A person cannot define feminity or masculinity. It is determined by a common collective perception of the environment they were socialized in. We all know and feel the common stereotypes for "feminine" and "masculine" because we have been conditioned to internalize then.
What you are thinkin in your head, probably 90% of the Westerners think as well are feminine and masculine trait.
And it when it comes down to it most things/traits associated with femininity are objectively shitty, whereas masculine traits are the ones that are objectively the better ones.
The same way Webster does
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:09:14 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 12:03:05 PM
I think alot of men have some sort of feminine trait, whether theyre open about it or not is another story. Yes, there's certain ways men can act that determine if theyre masculine or feminine. I mean of course, how else could that be determined? If i think ur effeminate then u probably speak a certain way, dress a certain way, have what i would consider a more feminine demeanor, or a combo of all. I more than likely wouldn't have an overly feminine male friend..........or an overly masculine female friend for that matter
I definitely agree with the first sentence LaPickpocket.
Im hoping someone gives specifics on what these traits entail or exhibit tho.
IDK about any feminine traits, but I know the alpha male shit is beyond played out for me.
I dated a super masc guy and it was a nightmare. He would stare at and flirt with women everywhere we went so people wouldn't get "the wrong idea" and hearing him speak with a deeper voice when he got around straight dudes was painful. There's this constant state of performance a lot of those type of men have to live in and I don't have the patience for it nor do I find it attractive anymore.
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Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 12:14:29 PM
A person cannot define feminity or masculinity. It is determined by a common collective perception of the environment they were socialized in. We all know and feel the common stereotypes for "feminine" and "masculine" because we have been conditioned to internalize then.
What you are thinkin in your head, probably 90% of the Westerners think as well are feminine and masculine trait.
And it when it comes down to it most things/traits associated with femininity are objectively shitty, whereas masculine traits are the ones that are objectively the better ones.
Okay Malc. Thanks.
n
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 12:14:29 PM
A person cannot define feminity or masculinity. It is determined by a common collective perception of the environment they were socialized in. We all know and feel the common stereotypes for "feminine" and "masculine" because we have been conditioned to internalize then.
What you are thinkin in your head, probably 90% of the Westerners think as well are feminine and masculine trait.
I agree with what you're saying but he basically asked what do YOU consider masculine or feminine. Like 99.9% of the world would more than likely think a man listening to Britney Spears is a feminine thing. I couldnt care less about something like that.
A deep voice, hairy pits, chest, balls etc
Doesn't like giving head, only tops. Big dick.
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 11:51:54 AM
Is there a certain way people have to act for you to label them masculine or feminine?
Certain physical traits or non-physical qualities?
Does either hold more weight when you're looking for friends or partners?
No judgement guys!
:ohwow: :ohwow: :ohwow:
my criteria:
[youtube autoplay=1 start=238 end=275]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjCjSQnyL0I[/youtube]
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 12:19:21 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 12:14:29 PM
A person cannot define feminity or masculinity. It is determined by a common collective perception of the environment they were socialized in. We all know and feel the common stereotypes for "feminine" and "masculine" because we have been conditioned to internalize then.
What you are thinkin in your head, probably 90% of the Westerners think as well are feminine and masculine trait.
I agree with what you're saying but he basically asked what do YOU consider masculine or feminine. Like 99.9% of the world would more than likely think a man listening to Britney Spears is a feminine thing. I couldnt care less about something like that.
he wants us to reiterate ignorant stereotypes? What is the point? None of our personal definitions should be of value or relevance.
To me either you are a man or you are not. Same with woman. There isn't levels to the mess, unless you are actually a hermie.
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 12:22:45 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 12:19:21 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 12:14:29 PM
A person cannot define feminity or masculinity. It is determined by a common collective perception of the environment they were socialized in. We all know and feel the common stereotypes for "feminine" and "masculine" because we have been conditioned to internalize then.
What you are thinkin in your head, probably 90% of the Westerners think as well are feminine and masculine trait.
I agree with what you're saying but he basically asked what do YOU consider masculine or feminine. Like 99.9% of the world would more than likely think a man listening to Britney Spears is a feminine thing. I couldnt care less about something like that.
he wants to reiterate ignorant stereotypes? What is the point? None of our personal definitions should be of value or relevance.
To me either you are a man or you are not. Same with woman. There isn't levels to the mess, unless you are actually a hermie.
sdddddddddd
:omgwatshappening:
However one would answer the question, just reflects the society in which he grew up. It is like asking what or who is "Hispanic" to you?
Most of what Vonc said. But I don't necessarily associate it with how one dresses, maybe that's just his personal style (Jaden Smith). Now if he's starting to wear heels and female wigs, that's a different story imo.
A feminine man, to me, possesses a lot of female qualities and mannerisms in their day to day interactions around everybody. Doesn't matter how they're dressed, it's their whole demeanor.
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 12:27:25 PM
However one would answer the question, just reflects the society in which he grew up. It is like asking what or who is "Hispanic" to you?
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Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 12:22:45 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 12:19:21 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 12:14:29 PM
A person cannot define feminity or masculinity. It is determined by a common collective perception of the environment they were socialized in. We all know and feel the common stereotypes for "feminine" and "masculine" because we have been conditioned to internalize then.
What you are thinkin in your head, probably 90% of the Westerners think as well are feminine and masculine trait.
I agree with what you're saying but he basically asked what do YOU consider masculine or feminine. Like 99.9% of the world would more than likely think a man listening to Britney Spears is a feminine thing. I couldnt care less about something like that.
he wants us to reiterate ignorant stereotypes? What is the point? None of our personal definitions should be of value or relevance.
To me either you are a man or you are not. Same with woman. There isn't levels to the mess, unless you are actually a hermie.
I really was trying to avoid giving you a full out response mess because again you use ur intelligence to be a contrarian and its annoying af.
There are a plethora of social constructs that society defines for us (sexuality, gender expression, race etc.) as individuals we receive these implicit and explicit messages as we develop.
Yes we do internalize some of these messages but that's not the end of the process. We inherent or discard the messages based on our own ability to critically think, awareness, and life experience. Like the example Vonc gave you. I could believe a man sporting a certain colors is a sign of femininity, while someone else might think its masculine because this man was brave/confident enough to wear it.
Thusly, making this construct subjective rather than objective. You can also read other posts within this thread that evidence this. Thanks.
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Quote from: Chokeme on October 14, 2016, 12:21:35 PM
A deep voice, hairy pits, chest, balls etc
Doesn't like giving head, only tops. Big dick.
dfdfdf
Wait specifics.
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:32:58 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on October 14, 2016, 12:21:35 PM
A deep voice, hairy pits, chest, balls etc
Doesn't like giving head, only tops. Big dick.
dfdfdf
Wait specifics.
fffccd. I think this was my greeting on the chatline back in the day. :ohwow:
Not a big dick :dead: aren't all dicks masculine
Quote from: TAE! on October 14, 2016, 12:34:44 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:32:58 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on October 14, 2016, 12:21:35 PM
A deep voice, hairy pits, chest, balls etc
Doesn't like giving head, only tops. Big dick.
dfdfdf
Wait specifics.
fffccd. I think this was my greeting on the chatline back in the day. :ohwow:
sdjkndsd
:usureuok:
Im crying not balls, dicks, testosterone :dead:
Testicles are so masculine
:flamebroiled:
I know what each are when I see/hear them, so I only define them by my terms.
I used to think everyone had a clear (similar) view of each but that's definitely not the case
BUT i was in some thread the other day and Que said the sound of a man peeing is so masculine. I was like :uhh:
But all men pee.........even the feminine ones :dead:
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 12:34:45 PM
Not a big dick :dead: aren't all dicks masculine
mine most def is
:sup:
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 12:34:45 PM
Not a big dick :dead: aren't all dicks masculine
askdjasjdas
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 12:37:20 PM
BUT i was in some thread the other day and Que said the sound of a man peeing is so masculine. I was like :uhh:
But all men pee.........even the feminine ones :dead:
sdsdfdff
Emm...so yeah. We were talking about this. Some men have heavy ass pee flows that are loud as hell. Others have a tinkle. IDK about associating that with masc & fem butttttt :kii:
where's that video of that man being arrested while pissing himself
that was ..... hot
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
I used to lose interest if I saw one hint of a man acting/talking/dancing like a woman. I'm ok with it now because I've discovered that most gay men queen out, be it privately or pubicly. Just don't do it more than me. Lol.
Quote from: TAE! on October 14, 2016, 12:43:25 PM
I used to lose interest if I saw one hint of a man acting/talking/dancing like a woman. I'm ok with it now because I've discovered that most gay men queen out, be it privately or pubicly. Just don't do it more than me. Lol.
Do u consider yourself feminine or masculine
Heavy pee flow has me sobbing
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 12:42:39 PM
where's that video of that man being arrested while pissing himself
that was ..... hot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYivOM0GX9o
:howfestive:
Why are yall listening to urine
Quote from: Nine on October 14, 2016, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 12:42:39 PM
where's that video of that man being arrested while pissing himself
that was ..... hot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYivOM0GX9o
:howfestive:
this was fucking HOT :flamebroiled:
:howfestive: I would've gotten in front of him and opened my mouth tbfhwy
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 14, 2016, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Nine on October 14, 2016, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 12:42:39 PM
where's that video of that man being arrested while pissing himself
that was ..... hot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYivOM0GX9o
:howfestive:
this was fucking HOT :flamebroiled:
!!!
I'm not a urinal gor but
:heyddy:
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 14, 2016, 12:49:14 PM
:howfestive: I would've gotten in front of him and opened my mouth tbfhwy
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Dsa
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you'd have to stand in line faggot
:uhh:
cxc
:uhh:
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 12:50:18 PM
you'd have to stand in line faggot
sadffdsgdsgfdsgsdf :freewilly:
Getting kinda GROSS in here
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: TAE! on October 14, 2016, 12:43:25 PM
I used to lose interest if I saw one hint of a man acting/talking/dancing like a woman. I'm ok with it now because I've discovered that most gay men queen out, be it privately or pubicly. Just don't do it more than me. Lol.
Do u consider yourself feminine or masculine
Masculine, but I have feminine qualities that tend to come out around my gay friends.
Quote from: Nine on October 14, 2016, 12:50:00 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 14, 2016, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Nine on October 14, 2016, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 12:42:39 PM
where's that video of that man being arrested while pissing himself
that was ..... hot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYivOM0GX9o
:howfestive:
this was fucking HOT :flamebroiled:
!!!
I'm not a urinal gor but
:heyddy:
n
:usuresis:
I am such a man
what the heck is going on!?
Idk TBH.... It used to be pretty cut and CLEAR for me, but now that I've grown, learned, and developed more within the gay community and with my OWN sexuality.... My views aren't really the same. Unless you're perched in a DRESS and demand to be addressed as a female, I kinda consider you masculine. Like someone said, all fags have feminine traits, some of us more than others, but I don't think that revokes our overall masculinity..
someone pissed all ovr ur threads
:bvy:
n Guess no one read the question that was asked.
Diego loves an argument mess
Quote from: Trey on October 14, 2016, 12:58:23 PM
Idk TBH.... It used to be pretty cut and CLEAR for me, but now that I've grown, learned, and developed more within the gay community and with my OWN sexuality.... My views aren't really the same. Unless you're perched in a DRESS and demand to be addressed as a female, I kinda consider you masculine. Like someone said, all fags have feminine traits, some of us more than others, but I don't think that revokes our overall masculinity..
fuck u
Quote from: Trey on October 14, 2016, 12:58:23 PM
Idk TBH.... It used to be pretty cut and CLEAR for me, but now that I've grown, learned, and developed more within the gay community and with my OWN sexuality.... My views aren't really the same. Unless you're perched in a DRESS and demand to be addressed as a female, I kinda consider you masculine. Like someone said, all fags have feminine traits, some of us more than others, but I don't think that revokes our overall masculinity..
:flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled:
Wow, ppl are still answering the question 5 pages in.
r u ok?
Quote from: Trey on October 14, 2016, 12:58:23 PM
Idk TBH.... It used to be pretty cut and CLEAR for me, but now that I've grown, learned, and developed more within the gay community and with my OWN sexuality.... My views aren't really the same. Unless you're perched in a DRESS and demand to be addressed as a female, I kinda consider you masculine. Like someone said, all fags have feminine traits, some of us more than others, but I don't think that revokes our overall masculinity..
! You said it perfectly.
That's crazy. I have to admit, I'm programmed af because I've deemed certain members masculine and feminine even on just the way they post :dead:
f the question is not about dating or friendships, it's about DEFINING what those two words mean.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:04:03 PM
That's crazy. I have to admit, I'm programmed af because I've deemed certain members masculine and feminine even on just the way they post :dead:
like who
:ATLcameo:
It smells like urine in here now.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:04:03 PM
That's crazy. I have to admit, I'm programmed af because I've deemed certain members masculine and feminine even on just the way they post :dead:
Am I feminine to you?
:ohwow:
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on October 14, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
f the question is not about dating or friendships, it's about DEFINING what those two words mean.
But he literally asked about dating and friendships :dead:
Quote from: Nine on October 14, 2016, 01:05:10 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:04:03 PM
That's crazy. I have to admit, I'm programmed af because I've deemed certain members masculine and feminine even on just the way they post :dead:
like who
:ATLcameo:
yea. I wanna fucking know.
Or am I masc?
:acquit:
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 14, 2016, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Nine on October 14, 2016, 01:05:10 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:04:03 PM
That's crazy. I have to admit, I'm programmed af because I've deemed certain members masculine and feminine even on just the way they post :dead:
like who
:ATLcameo:
yea. I wanna fucking know.
you're a fag
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on October 14, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
f the question is not about dating or friendships, it's about DEFINING what those two words mean.
QuoteDoes either hold more weight when you're looking for friends or partners?
...like...just stfu...
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 01:05:33 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:04:03 PM
That's crazy. I have to admit, I'm programmed af because I've deemed certain members masculine and feminine even on just the way they post :dead:
Am I feminine to you?
:ohwow:
No. U have slight things when it comes to ur speech but no
vvxxvcrhghdddd
I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.
Quote from: MelMel on October 14, 2016, 01:06:42 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 14, 2016, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Nine on October 14, 2016, 01:05:10 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:04:03 PM
That's crazy. I have to admit, I'm programmed af because I've deemed certain members masculine and feminine even on just the way they post :dead:
like who
:ATLcameo:
yea. I wanna fucking know.
you're a fag
sdddddddddddddddd
:cheerup:
Whats more interesting to me is how for many cis gay men
acknowledging masc and fem is frowned upon
but among many trans people its very important to aline yourself
with one or the other to be perceived as you'd like
even if it's not said blatantly
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.
wow at me being all three :wub:
For the non-gender binary folks...are you just as accepting when having a sexual partner?
Is a sexual preference/position governed by anything?
Quote from: Uni on October 14, 2016, 01:08:42 PM
Whats more interesting to me is how for many cis gay men
acknowledging masc and fem is frowned upon
but among many trans people its very important to aline yourself
with one or the other to be perceived as you'd like
even if it's not said blatantly
Well that's a reason I don't quite appreciate the trans logic
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:08:15 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 01:06:14 PM
Or am I masc?
:acquit:
Masc?! What!? No ur just a male....
sddsddssdddddd
Yea malcolm, u don't buy into this mess anyway. Like u said, or individual thoughts don't matter, so why even inquire
Quote from: MelMel on October 14, 2016, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.
wow at me being all three :wub:
n
I was being sarcastic
:ATLcameo:
Be gone instead.
Quote from: MelMel on October 14, 2016, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.
wow at me being all three :wub:
Wow, are you MASCULINE?
:ohwow: :ohwow: :ohwow:
I thought this was judgement-free
Quote from: Uni on October 14, 2016, 01:13:47 PM
I thought this was judgement-free
When is anything on here really judgement free lol
point taken
I miss these little psych threads tho Brie
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 01:14:22 PM
Quote from: Uni on October 14, 2016, 01:13:47 PM
I thought this was judgement-free
When is anything on here really judgement free lol
g
It was at first. I hate when his trolling ass comes in my threads.
:overit:
oops, the new member in me lol
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.
My grandmother went with me to my highschool luncheon and she said something that made me :uhh:
The #1 person in our class was a guy and he happened to be gay. He really had an impressive list of accomplishments. Like he was on jeopardy, already had completed some college, etc. He's actually a writer for Empire now but ANYWAY she leant in like "is he gay?" I was like yea, granny. "I knew it, aint no regular boy that smart."
I was like bitch :uhh:
How insulting on so many levels. I know how old folks be tho, so i just left it alone :dead:
I guess I can indulge in what I USED to think. But it's not about fem and masc but straight and gay. I associated male straightness with strength, dominance and leadership. I used to feel weird for dominating and leading other guys, as if I'm not a real gay or something. Even questioning myself wether I would socially dominate straight males just to feel less gay, but it's just my nature to want to take the lead and take charge. And being gay and being a boss/aggressive does not x eachother out.
I just thought being gay u are socially weaker and less valuable and your word counts less in a debate. Granted I think if all ppl I converse(d) with knew I was in fact gay, I'd get less respect maybe.
Quote from: Uni on October 14, 2016, 01:08:42 PM
Whats more interesting to me is how for many cis gay men
acknowledging masc and fem is frowned upon
but among many trans people its very important to aline yourself
with one or the other to be perceived as you'd like
even if it's not said blatantly
Yeah being passable as a trans person is a WHOLE nother debacle when you factor in perceptions of masc & femininity. U should make a thread bavi!
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 01:15:03 PM
I miss these little psych threads tho Brie
:wub:
fck you!
I was actually shocked to find out as a teenager you can actually be gay and still be dumb and ignorant as shit. Always thought gays were an intellectually elevated species nnn
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.
My grandmother went with me to my highschool luncheon and she said something that made me :uhh:
The #1 person in our class was a guy and he happened to be gay. He really had an impressive list of accomplishments. Like he was on jeopardy, already had completed some college, etc. He's actually a writer for Empire now but ANYWAY she leant in like "is he gay?" I was like yea, granny. "I knew it, aint no regular boy that smart."
I was like bitch :uhh:
How insulting on so many levels. I know how old folks be tho, so i just left it alone :dead:
ghhgh
I think its a socioeconimic thing to. No disrespect at all but did your grandma grow up in an affluent neighborhood? My family and I didn't and if you base masculinity on the men around you and what they're doing then well...I can see it.
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 01:16:49 PM
I guess I can indulge in what I USED to think. But it's not about fem and masc but straight and gay. I associated male straightness with strength, dominance and leadership. I used to feel weird for dominating and leading other guys, as if I'm not a real gay or something. Even questioning myself wether I would socially dominate straight males just to feel less gay, but it's just my nature to want to take the lead and take charge. And being gay and being a boss/aggressive does not x eachother out.
I just thought being gay u are socially weaker and less valuable and your word counts less in a debate. Granted I think if all ppl I converse(d) with knew I was in fact gay, I'd get less respect maybe.
Wow, u sounded fckd up. Its so funny u paint this picture of yourself as STRONG & DOMINATING because that's not the way u come off at all
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.
My grandmother went with me to my highschool luncheon and she said something that made me :uhh:
The #1 person in our class was a guy and he happened to be gay. He really had an impressive list of accomplishments. Like he was on jeopardy, already had completed some college, etc. He's actually a writer for Empire now but ANYWAY she leant in like "is he gay?" I was like yea, granny. "I knew it, aint no regular boy that smart."
I was like bitch :uhh:
How insulting on so many levels. I know how old folks be tho, so i just left it alone :dead:
fgdvvdd
Sadly, a lot of young people think this way too. Especially if you're not an ex-con/criminal or an athlete. :dead:
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:12:56 PM
Quote from: MelMel on October 14, 2016, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.
wow at me being all three :wub:
Wow, are you MASCULINE?
:ohwow: :ohwow: :ohwow:
I am everything :sup:
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 01:19:18 PM
I was actually shocked to find out as a teenager you can actually be gay and still be dumb and ignorant as shit. Always thought gays were an intellectually elevated species nnn
I appreciate you going with the flow now Malc ^_^
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on October 14, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
f the question is not about dating or friendships, it's about DEFINING what those two words mean.
But he literally asked about dating and friendships :dead:
n yeah just saw that.
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:20:12 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 01:16:49 PM
I guess I can indulge in what I USED to think. But it's not about fem and masc but straight and gay. I associated male straightness with strength, dominance and leadership. I used to feel weird for dominating and leading other guys, as if I'm not a real gay or something. Even questioning myself wether I would socially dominate straight males just to feel less gay, but it's just my nature to want to take the lead and take charge. And being gay and being a boss/aggressive does not x eachother out.
I just thought being gay u are socially weaker and less valuable and your word counts less in a debate. Granted I think if all ppl I converse(d) with knew I was in fact gay, I'd get less respect maybe.
Wow, u sounded fckd up. Its so funny u paint this picture of yourself as STRONG & DOMINATING because that's not the way u come off at all
Don't think I'm trying to paint me as such on here. I feel like I enjoy taking cues from the innovative gorls like Afro and garlic and just sit back and go with their trends. I enjoy not having to be this leading, mature figure here. I get to be a kid. There is a balance.
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:19:47 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.
My grandmother went with me to my highschool luncheon and she said something that made me :uhh:
The #1 person in our class was a guy and he happened to be gay. He really had an impressive list of accomplishments. Like he was on jeopardy, already had completed some college, etc. He's actually a writer for Empire now but ANYWAY she leant in like "is he gay?" I was like yea, granny. "I knew it, aint no regular boy that smart."
I was like bitch :uhh:
How insulting on so many levels. I know how old folks be tho, so i just left it alone :dead:
ghhgh
I think its a socioeconimic thing to. No disrespect at all but did your grandma grow up in an affluent neighborhood? My family and I didn't and if you base masculinity on the men around you and what they're doing then well...I can see it.
I can agree with what ur saying. I don't know how she grew up but as an adult i think my grandparents lived pretty well. Not like wealthy or well off but pretty decent. I think tha mentality is also something that has evolved overtime. I just chalked it up as a generationsl thing
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 01:19:18 PM
I was actually shocked to find out as a teenager you can actually be gay and still be dumb and ignorant as shit. Always thought gays were an intellectually elevated species nnn
What tha world
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:20:50 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 01:19:18 PM
I was actually shocked to find out as a teenager you can actually be gay and still be dumb and ignorant as shit. Always thought gays were an intellectually elevated species nnn
I appreciate you going with the flow now Malc ^_^
I like the angle of child perceptions on gay/straight stereotypes. But grown men defining masculinity, couldn't align with that. No prob!
Quote from: MelMel on October 14, 2016, 01:21:46 PM
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: MelMel on October 14, 2016, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
I used to associate being intelligent, active in class, and shy a feminine trait.
wow at me being all three :wub:
n
fuck u and the Atlanta Pigeons
4-1 hehe
I remember a guy I know told me he was dumped because the top he was dating said he was a little too masculine for him.
I couldn't wrap my head around HOW??
NOTHING about his mannerisms made me feel like I was around a masculine guy.
Everyone's perceptions are soooo different.
Sadly it took my a while to figure out that blacks can also be gay. I sincerely at one point thought being gay was a white thing. That was really stupid. :(
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:10:10 PM
For the non-gender binary folks...are you just as accepting when having a sexual partner?
Is a sexual preference/position governed by anything?
D.i.a.b.l.o
Care to take a gander?
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lybvngsDRk1r86gcro4_250.gif)
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Thats interesting. So do u know why u prefer someone to be blatantly gay? Like is that a conscious thing? Can a person be this smaller framed skinny bottom type and be just an everyday guy and u still be attracted to them? Or u need to know they're gay upon first impression for u to be into em?
I just think most of the straight gorls put on a "masculine" front for society and their friends. Speaking extra deep
and slow, watching how they dress.
I love that gays shouldn't have to give a fuck about that no more.
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 01:27:55 PM
Sadly it took my a while to figure out that blacks can also be gay. I sincerely at one point thought being gay was a white thing. That was really stupid. :(
I know someone else that thought this way. He too was African now that i think about it. I said something about Africans being gay and he was like
impossible. That's not a thing :hmph:
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 01:31:05 PM
I just think most of the straight gorls put on a "masculine" front for society and their friends. Speaking extra deep
and slow, watching how they dress.
I love that gays shouldn't have to give a fuck about that no more.
I always thought they just copied what they saw
whatever came most naturally for them
'Overcompensating masculinity' seems like its picked up later on, no?
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 01:31:05 PM
I just think most of the straight gorls put on a "masculine" front for society and their friends. Speaking extra deep
and slow, watching how they dress.
I love that gays shouldn't have to give a fuck about that no more.
Straights aren't the only people doing this. They also shouldn't have to either.
Cool thread
Yeayeayea, Im awaiting ur answer Margy
What if you just have a deep voice and like shirts and ties and shit? :dead:
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 01:36:06 PM
What if you just have a deep voice and like shirts and ties and shit? :dead:
!!!!!
The voice thing, in the gay world ppl will naturally ascribe that to you being more "masc" or attempting to be. It's annoying af.
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 01:36:06 PM
What if you just have a deep voice and like shirts and ties and shit? :dead:
!!!!!
The voice thing, in the gay world ppl will natural ascribe that to you being more "masc" or attempting to be. It's annoying af.
!!!
>>>>><<<<<
A few weeks ago a few of my former students who are 8th graders now visited my 7th grade class toward the end of the day. I was reading this boy's paper, and when he writes his "I" he does the circle for the dot.
He peeks at the paper my 8th grade student says, "is he gay?" I was like..."what?" :uhh:
He then says, "str8 dudes don't write their i's like that"
:hmph: I had to enlighten a bit.
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
I honestly genuinely don't have a response. I don't believe in the whole masculine/feminine label within the gay community. It's all mental and a way for heterosexual gender roles to infiltrate Homosexuality and emasculate the man but It's dope to read others opinions on it though.
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
"He writes too pretty" :uhh:
So to be straight, you gotta have 4th grader penmanship?
Feminine to me is a very sing songy way of talking, every word has an extra syllable. Popping lips, delicate mannerisms, deliberate soft/nasal voice and all of this is done very subtley actually. When I say popping lips I dont mean acting ghetto I mean naturally doing it here and there. Then there are the extra things guys do that are clearly feminine like wearing clohing that is designed for women, extra cosmetics, etc etc. Its more the combination of all these things generally.
Masculine is an overall thing, too. But I wont say MUSCLES! DEEP VOICE! FITTED CAP....its honestly a matter of being NOT feminine. Its just.... regular. A regular guy. You can have feminine 'ways' and still be masc to me. Just not that combination mess I described above. and if course It varies from person to person
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
:hmph: I had to enlighten a bit.
I'm crying thinking about this response
Quote from: Columbo! PICASSO! on October 14, 2016, 01:45:17 PM
Feminine to me is a very sing songy way of talking, every word has an extra syllable. Popping lips, delicate mannerisms, deliberate soft/nasal voice and all of this is done very subtley actually. When I say popping lips I dont mean acting ghetto I mean naturally doing it here and there. Then there are the extra things guys do that are clearly feminine like wearing clohing that is designed for women, extra cosmetics, etc etc. Its more the combination of all these things generally.
Masculine is an overall thing, too. But I wont say MUSCLES! DEEP VOICE! FITTED CAP....its honestly a matter of being NOT feminine. Its just.... regular. A regular guy. You can have feminine 'ways' and still be masc to me. Just not that combination mess I described above. and if course It varies from person to person
Thanks Lonz, I also knew you'd have some good input. :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled:
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 01:46:11 PM
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
:hmph: I had to enlighten a bit.
I'm crying thinking about this response
I said... "Listen..." And took it from there...
:letsmessfag:
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
A few weeks ago a few of my former students who are 8th graders now visited my 7th grade class toward the end of the day. I was reading this boy's paper, and when he writes his "I" he does the circle for the dot.
He peeks at the paper my 8th grade student says, "is he gay?" I was like..."what?" :uhh:
He then says, "str8 dudes don't write their i's like that"
:hmph: I had to enlighten a bit.
sddsddssssssss
See but in 8th grade that makes perfect sense. I could see an adolescent thinking this.....well a grown man too tbh. I think back to grammar school and girls doing that real cutesy drawing with their letters.
I feel like they coincide in a sense
But I've learned that both men and women can behold both traits .. whether homosexual or heterosexual
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
God forgive me cause :dead:
Nice penmanship, no i don't care about that but something like drawing a rose at the end of ur name........i DO think that's a lil feminine :dead:
I probably wouldn't not be cool with u but i would definitely rag on u for it, like definitely :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:47:37 PM
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
A few weeks ago a few of my former students who are 8th graders now visited my 7th grade class toward the end of the day. I was reading this boy's paper, and when he writes his "I" he does the circle for the dot.
He peeks at the paper my 8th grade student says, "is he gay?" I was like..."what?" :uhh:
He then says, "str8 dudes don't write their i's like that"
:hmph: I had to enlighten a bit.
sddsddssssssss
See but in 8th grade that makes perfect sense. I could see an adolescent thinking this.....well a grown man too tbh. I think back to grammar school and girls doing that real cutesy drawing with their letters.
But you know I feel it's my obligation to plant a new seed :justabit:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
God forgive me cause :dead:
Nice penmanship, no i don't care about that but something like drawing a rose at the end of ur name........i DO think that's a lil feminine :dead:
I probably wouldn't not be cool with u but i would definitely rag on u for it, like definitely :dead:
Fhidkdndmdkdddddrr
"Boy...erase this mess"
:plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
God forgive me cause :dead:
Nice penmanship, no i don't care about that but something like drawing a rose at the end of ur name........i DO think that's a lil feminine :dead:
I probably wouldn't not be cool with u but i would definitely rag on u for it, like definitely :dead:
Firstly, I wouldnt give a damn if you were cool with me ya lil crumb snatcher. Probably was a lil shit then too.
Secondly,
My last name is Rose.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Thats interesting. So do u know why u prefer someone to be blatantly gay? Like is that a conscious thing? Can a person be this smaller framed skinny bottom type and be just an everyday guy and u still be attracted to them? Or u need to know they're gay upon first impression for u to be into em?
I just prefer to be the dominate one and I guess it's also a looks thing for me too. Im a more built bigger guy so to me it feels normal to be with someone who is smaller than me. It just looks right to me. In my case opposites really do attract.
I don't have to know they are gay to date them if they are still skinny that's more important to me
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
A few weeks ago a few of my former students who are 8th graders now visited my 7th grade class toward the end of the day. I was reading this boy's paper, and when he writes his "I" he does the circle for the dot.
He peeks at the paper my 8th grade student says, "is he gay?" I was like..."what?" :uhh:
He then says, "str8 dudes don't write their i's like that"
:hmph: I had to enlighten a bit.
:plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Columbo! PICASSO! on October 14, 2016, 01:45:17 PM
Feminine to me is a very sing songy way of talking, every word has an extra syllable. Popping lips, delicate mannerisms, deliberate soft/nasal voice and all of this is done very subtley actually. When I say popping lips I dont mean acting ghetto I mean naturally doing it here and there. Then there are the extra things guys do that are clearly feminine like wearing clohing that is designed for women, extra cosmetics, etc etc. Its more the combination of all these things generally.
Masculine is an overall thing, too. But I wont say MUSCLES! DEEP VOICE! FITTED CAP....its honestly a matter of being NOT feminine. Its just.... regular. A regular guy. You can have feminine 'ways' and still be masc to me. Just not that combination mess I described above. and if course It varies from person to person
Yes!!!
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
God forgive me cause :dead:
Nice penmanship, no i don't care about that but something like drawing a rose at the end of ur name........i DO think that's a lil feminine :dead:
I probably wouldn't not be cool with u but i would definitely rag on u for it, like definitely :dead:
Fhidkdndmdkdddddrr
"Boy...erase this mess"
:plzstop:
ggg
Fuck yall okay. It's my last name, I thought I was being creative. :uhh:
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Thats interesting. So do u know why u prefer someone to be blatantly gay? Like is that a conscious thing? Can a person be this smaller framed skinny bottom type and be just an everyday guy and u still be attracted to them? Or u need to know they're gay upon first impression for u to be into em?
I just prefer to be the dominate one and I guess it's also a looks thing for me too. Im a more built bigger guy so to me it feels normal to be with someone who is smaller than me. It just looks right to me. In my case opposites really do attract.
I don't have to know they are gay to date them if they are still skinny that's more important to me
What about height? I ask because my bf normally dated shorter guys before me. He's 6'2 and I'm 6'1. He got over that I guess.
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
God forgive me cause :dead:
Nice penmanship, no i don't care about that but something like drawing a rose at the end of ur name........i DO think that's a lil feminine :dead:
I probably wouldn't not be cool with u but i would definitely rag on u for it, like definitely :dead:
Fhidkdndmdkdddddrr
"Boy...erase this mess"
:plzstop:
sddddddddddddddddddddddddds
Like i know me and i just KNOW if we were passing our papers to the front and i saw that damn rose drawn id give a
(https://uploadir.com/u/ofgkjca4)
Followed by, BOY if u dont get yo big
...........
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/6-17-2015/ahJA9v.gif)
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:55:43 PM
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
God forgive me cause :dead:
Nice penmanship, no i don't care about that but something like drawing a rose at the end of ur name........i DO think that's a lil feminine :dead:
I probably wouldn't not be cool with u but i would definitely rag on u for it, like definitely :dead:
Fhidkdndmdkdddddrr
"Boy...erase this mess"
:plzstop:
ggg
Fuck yall okay. It's my last name, I thought I was being creative. :uhh:
:plzstop: :plzstop: taking up all this class time with your arts and crafts. Pass in your homework and on to the next... :plzstop: :plzstop:
8:6)4!:',dmd
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Thats interesting. So do u know why u prefer someone to be blatantly gay? Like is that a conscious thing? Can a person be this smaller framed skinny bottom type and be just an everyday guy and u still be attracted to them? Or u need to know they're gay upon first impression for u to be into em?
I just prefer to be the dominate one and I guess it's also a looks thing for me too. Im a more built bigger guy so to me it feels normal to be with someone who is smaller than me. It just looks right to me. In my case opposites really do attract.
I don't have to know they are gay to date them if they are still skinny that's more important to me
So dominance in ur mind is im big ur small and because I'm bigger, im dominant?
(http://i.imgur.com/0fmXquW.gif)
Quote from: Columbo! PICASSO! on October 14, 2016, 01:56:34 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Thats interesting. So do u know why u prefer someone to be blatantly gay? Like is that a conscious thing? Can a person be this smaller framed skinny bottom type and be just an everyday guy and u still be attracted to them? Or u need to know they're gay upon first impression for u to be into em?
I just prefer to be the dominate one and I guess it's also a looks thing for me too. Im a more built bigger guy so to me it feels normal to be with someone who is smaller than me. It just looks right to me. In my case opposites really do attract.
I don't have to know they are gay to date them if they are still skinny that's more important to me
What about height? I ask because my bf normally dated shorter guys before me. He's 6'2 and I'm 6'1. He got over that I guess.
I didn't know you were tall :damselindistress:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Thats interesting. So do u know why u prefer someone to be blatantly gay? Like is that a conscious thing? Can a person be this smaller framed skinny bottom type and be just an everyday guy and u still be attracted to them? Or u need to know they're gay upon first impression for u to be into em?
I just prefer to be the dominate one and I guess it's also a looks thing for me too. Im a more built bigger guy so to me it feels normal to be with someone who is smaller than me. It just looks right to me. In my case opposites really do attract.
I don't have to know they are gay to date them if they are still skinny that's more important to me
So dominance in ur mind is im big ur small and because I'm bigger, im dominant?
Thats a very common stance.
Why'd this JUMP in pages
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 02:01:53 PM
Quote from: Columbo! PICASSO! on October 14, 2016, 01:56:34 PM
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In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Thats interesting. So do u know why u prefer someone to be blatantly gay? Like is that a conscious thing? Can a person be this smaller framed skinny bottom type and be just an everyday guy and u still be attracted to them? Or u need to know they're gay upon first impression for u to be into em?
I just prefer to be the dominate one and I guess it's also a looks thing for me too. Im a more built bigger guy so to me it feels normal to be with someone who is smaller than me. It just looks right to me. In my case opposites really do attract.
I don't have to know they are gay to date them if they are still skinny that's more important to me
What about height? I ask because my bf normally dated shorter guys before me. He's 6'2 and I'm 6'1. He got over that I guess.
I didn't know you were tall :damselindistress:
:supluv:
Quote from: Columbo! PICASSO! on October 14, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
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Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Thats interesting. So do u know why u prefer someone to be blatantly gay? Like is that a conscious thing? Can a person be this smaller framed skinny bottom type and be just an everyday guy and u still be attracted to them? Or u need to know they're gay upon first impression for u to be into em?
I just prefer to be the dominate one and I guess it's also a looks thing for me too. Im a more built bigger guy so to me it feels normal to be with someone who is smaller than me. It just looks right to me. In my case opposites really do attract.
I don't have to know they are gay to date them if they are still skinny that's more important to me
So dominance in ur mind is im big ur small and because I'm bigger, im dominant?
Thats a very common stance.
Wow, that sucks
Why is this so many pages
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:04:01 PM
Why'd this JUMP in pages
Cause we're discussing fag. Jump in and keep the conversation going
Why don't yall just read the damn thread
Theres actually no mess guys
I think that's so dumb :dead:
is it aout to change
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:55:43 PM
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Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
God forgive me cause :dead:
Nice penmanship, no i don't care about that but something like drawing a rose at the end of ur name........i DO think that's a lil feminine :dead:
I probably wouldn't not be cool with u but i would definitely rag on u for it, like definitely :dead:
Fhidkdndmdkdddddrr
"Boy...erase this mess"
:plzstop:
ggg
Fuck yall okay. It's my last name, I thought I was being creative. :uhh:
you were bre. I think it's cute :wub:
Don't give me SASS FAGGOTS
I have gorgeous penmanship :ohwow: always used to get complimented by teachers for it :caramelapple:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:10:28 PM
I have gorgeous penmanship :ohwow: always used to get complimented by teachers for it :caramelapple:
!!! tbh
:supluv:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:04:01 PM
Why'd this JUMP in pages
Cause we're discussing fag. Jump in and keep the conversation going
I have something you can jump in
:caramelapple:
Yeah women always say I have nice handwriting for a man. I guess men are just supposed to have chicken scratch lol
My handwriting sucks sffff. I literally write in italics. After writing a full page, Id look and everything is slightly sifting to the right
My handwriting is so fckn NEAT. mm
and I'm left handed so I'm better than all of you
:sup:
Cursive writing >>>
ack!
My handwriting is disgusting
I wish I could improve it
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:55:43 PM
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
God forgive me cause :dead:
Nice penmanship, no i don't care about that but something like drawing a rose at the end of ur name........i DO think that's a lil feminine :dead:
I probably wouldn't not be cool with u but i would definitely rag on u for it, like definitely :dead:
Fhidkdndmdkdddddrr
"Boy...erase this mess"
:plzstop:
ggg
Fuck yall okay. It's my last name, I thought I was being creative. :uhh:
you were bre. I think it's cute :wub:
Thx Branduh, fuck these guys
:stressed:
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 02:13:21 PM
and I'm left handed so I'm better than all of you
:sup:
I'm left handed too
writing in cursive is so... classy. But I HATE reading it from others.
I heard they don't teach cursive in schools anymore
Im ambidextrous so whats good
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:04:01 PM
Why'd this JUMP in pages
Cause we're discussing fag. Jump in and keep the conversation going
I have something you can jump in
:caramelapple:
there's PLENTY of room :ohwow:
enough for TWO
:traciandchelle:
sis I told you that was a one time thing :omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 02:15:43 PM
I heard they don't teach cursive in schools anymore
They don't. That sucks tbh
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 02:15:43 PM
I heard they don't teach cursive in schools anymore
they shouldn't. I haven't ONCE ever used it in business tbh.
Only for signatures :kii:
My cursive sucks. My name is the only thing that I can write well
I have terrible handwriting. Sometimes I struggle reading some of my old notes :dead:
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 14, 2016, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 02:15:43 PM
I heard they don't teach cursive in schools anymore
they shouldn't. I haven't ONCE ever used it in business tbh.
Only for signatures :kii:
I think it's still important to know how to read it though
?_____ Bre ⚘
Cursive is important, anything else gives me kindergarten tease nn
But back to the topic at hand, what so yall give offline behavior wise?
I stopped getting clocked once I hit high school and learned how to walk without a switch and relax my mannerisms. I went through a strictly masc period where I literally mimicked everything my brothers did in terms how to walk, talk, sit etc;
I eventually let go of all of that and learned to find a healthy balance between being comfortable and avoiding giving anything away.
Quote from: Columbo! PICASSO! on October 14, 2016, 02:11:58 PM
My handwriting sucks sffff. I literally write in italics. After writing a full page, Id look and everything is slightly sifting to the right
sddsddsssssssssssssssssssss
I know EXACTLY what ur talking about. I CAN write neatly but i have to kinda think about it to do it. Like consciously, purposely do it. Normally i just dgaf. I write really heavy. Like if i wrote a full page of something, i could flip the paper over and the indentations would be on the back side for like every letter :dead:
So it was just too much to add neatly writing into the equation unless it was simething i was turning into somebody
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 02:18:08 PM
?_____ Bre ⚘
LJNKL3N54IJO4J545
B 45 TG
BGF SR
I loathe you faggot!!!
I feel kind of hypocritical at times because I feel like I still have some insecurities around the idea of getting clocked, but I'm not about to pretend like l enjoy sports or walk like a penguin to throw someone's faggot senses off.
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 02:11:50 PM
Yeah women always say I have nice handwriting for a man.
q
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:18:29 PM
Cursive is important, anything else gives me kindergarten tease nn
I agree
Anything else seems so elementary to me
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:18:33 PM
But back to the topic at hand, what so yall give offline behavior wise?
I stopped getting clocked once I hit high school and learned how to walk without a switch and relax my mannerisms. I went through a strictly masc period where I literally mimicked everything my brothers did in terms how to walk, talk, sit etc;
I eventually let go of all of that and learned to find a healthy balance between being comfortable and avoiding giving anything away.
You think you have a gay walk or had one? I think one of my insecurities in the past, for being perceived gay has maybe been my taste in music or film. I think to me I still think it is a dead give away, but I think mostly fellow gays read it. If somebody adores female pop singers, you will be put in the gay box.
I do think if one talks more slowly and deeper I'd be considered manlier maybe and therefore "less gay".
My grandpa who grew up with the Arabic alphabet writes in block letters, like these. it aint cute
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Hamburger_Druckschrift_ab_2011.jpg/800px-Hamburger_Druckschrift_ab_2011.jpg)
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on October 14, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
f the question is not about dating or friendships, it's about DEFINING what those two words mean.
QuoteDoes either hold more weight when you're looking for friends or partners?
...like...just stfu...
:kii:
Smh
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:19:06 PM
Quote from: Columbo! PICASSO! on October 14, 2016, 02:11:58 PM
My handwriting sucks sffff. I literally write in italics. After writing a full page, Id look and everything is slightly sifting to the right
sddsddsssssssssssssssssssss
I know EXACTLY what ur talking about. I CAN write neatly but i have to kinda think about it to do it. Like consciously, purposely do it. Normally i just dgaf. I write really heavy. Like if i wrote a full page of something, i could flip the paper over and the indentations would be on the back side for like every letter :dead:
So it was just too much to add neatly writing into the equation unless it was simething i was turning into somebody
!!!! same.
I also dont necessarily have a designated, habitual way of writing. Sometimes I use both capital and lowercase letters in the same word. I just donated a dollar at 7Eleven for some breast cancer mess and they gave me a lil placard to hang on the window. I wrote my name in all caps ff
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:23:04 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:18:33 PM
But back to the topic at hand, what so yall give offline behavior wise?
I stopped getting clocked once I hit high school and learned how to walk without a switch and relax my mannerisms. I went through a strictly masc period where I literally mimicked everything my brothers did in terms how to walk, talk, sit etc;
I eventually let go of all of that and learned to find a healthy balance between being comfortable and avoiding giving anything away.
You think you have a gay walk or had one? I think one of my insecurities in the past, for being perceived gay has maybe been my taste in music or film. I think to me I still think it is a dead give away, but I think mostly fellow gays read it. If somebody adores female pop singers, you will be put in the gay box.
I do think if one talks more slowly and deeper I'd be considered manlier mayba therefore "less gay".
I was super effeminate as a kid, high pitched voice, walked with a switch, everything tbh :dead: thank god for puberty
I think every gay learns how to supress it as they get older.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:56:46 PM
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
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Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
dreereererreer
That's another important piece too though, discourse. I used to draw a rose at the end of my full name and they tore me to shreds. Then people usually bash any male who has nice penmanship.
God forgive me cause :dead:
Nice penmanship, no i don't care about that but something like drawing a rose at the end of ur name........i DO think that's a lil feminine :dead:
I probably wouldn't not be cool with u but i would definitely rag on u for it, like definitely :dead:
Fhidkdndmdkdddddrr
"Boy...erase this mess"
:plzstop:
sddddddddddddddddddddddddds
Like i know me and i just KNOW if we were passing our papers to the front and i saw that damn rose drawn id give a
(https://uploadir.com/u/ofgkjca4)
Followed by, BOY if u dont get yo big
...........
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/6-17-2015/ahJA9v.gif)
cccccvx
xvc
xvccccc
cvc
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bvbvbvgfhdfgg
I was looking at old home videos with my mom not too long ago and was CRINGING
:bvy:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
I was looking at old home videos with my mom not too long ago and was CRINGING
:bvy:
CCCVVBBB
My sister's used to put me in wigs and heels and make me learn 90s r&b choreography with them
I used to think it was fun! Exciting!
I should've known then
:bvy:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
My sister's used to put me in wigs and heels and make me learn 90s r&b choreography with them
I should've known then
:bvy:
d
asd'as;das
no one had to make me do it :supluv:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
I was looking at old home videos with my mom not too long ago and was CRINGING
:bvy:
omg I know this feeling though. I hate some of my older pics. Between looking a FOOL due to puberty, crazy fashions, and then having that light watchamacallit SPARKLE nnnn
It is something you can truly shame someone about. :gorlonfire:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
My sister's used to put me in wigs and heels and make me learn 90s r&b choreography with them
I used to think it was fun! Exciting!
I should've known then
:bvy:
Jesus
:stressed:
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
My sister's used to put me in wigs and heels and make me learn 90s r&b choreography with them
I should've known then
:bvy:
d
asd'as;das
no one had to make me do it :supluv:
CCCVVBBB
I thought it was cute. My mom used to go :usuresis: though vcccc
I used to dress up as Christina Milian and lipsinc to her mess jkjdsdsdsdsdsds
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
I was looking at old home videos with my mom not too long ago and was CRINGING
:bvy:
omg I know this feeling though. I hate some of my older pics. Between looking a FOOL due to puberty, crazy fashions, and then having that light watchamacallit SPARKLE nnnn
It is something you can truly shame someone about. :gorlonfire:
Im not familiar, clue me in
Who knew that bitch would condemn me to hell 15 years later
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
My sister's used to put me in wigs and heels and make me learn 90s r&b choreography with them
I used to think it was fun! Exciting!
I should've known then
:bvy:
:dead:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
My sister's used to put me in wigs and heels and make me learn 90s r&b choreography with them
I used to think it was fun! Exciting!
I should've known then
:bvy:
Tears
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
I was looking at old home videos with my mom not too long ago and was CRINGING
:bvy:
omg I know this feeling though. I hate some of my older pics. Between looking a FOOL due to puberty, crazy fashions, and then having that light watchamacallit SPARKLE nnnn
It is something you can truly shame someone about. :gorlonfire:
Im not familiar, clue me in
I think gays are sensitive to pictures where they could potentially look feminine or fruity, even if it is just harmless kid pictures, but you feel some sort of shame if you see an old pic of yours and it could be deemed like you were "sassy" or effeminate or sth.
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
I was looking at old home videos with my mom not too long ago and was CRINGING
:bvy:
omg I know this feeling though. I hate some of my older pics. Between looking a FOOL due to puberty, crazy fashions, and then having that light watchamacallit SPARKLE nnnn
It is something you can truly shame someone about. :gorlonfire:
Im not familiar, clue me in
I think gays are sensitive to pictures where they could potentially look feminine or fruity, even if it is just harmless kid pictures, but you feel some sort of shame if you see an old pic of yours and it could be deemed like you were "sassy" or effeminate or sth.
Oh, ur just talking about pics that u feel u look a lil SWEET in, ok
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 12:37:20 PM
BUT i was in some thread the other day and Que said the sound of a man peeing is so masculine. I was like :uhh:
But all men pee.........even the feminine ones :dead:
sdsdfdff
Emm...so yeah. We were talking about this. Some men have heavy ass pee flows that are loud as hell. Others have a tinkle. IDK about associating that with masc & fem butttttt :kii:
s
Right :dead:
cause I associate the former with prostate issues rather than masc/fem
if I HEAR your stream and it makes me
(https://uploadir.com/u/ofgkjca4)
then I'm more than likely thinking you need to see your primary physician :dead:
It took me strength and self acceptance to embrace that as well. And that no matter how feminine or masculine my behavior or look could have been deemed in the past or today, it is not relevant to how strong, cool, intelligent or lovable I am. I wonder if it is similar for 2010's gays.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:36:11 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
I was looking at old home videos with my mom not too long ago and was CRINGING
:bvy:
omg I know this feeling though. I hate some of my older pics. Between looking a FOOL due to puberty, crazy fashions, and then having that light watchamacallit SPARKLE nnnn
It is something you can truly shame someone about. :gorlonfire:
Im not familiar, clue me in
I think gays are sensitive to pictures where they could potentially look feminine or fruity, even if it is just harmless kid pictures, but you feel some sort of shame if you see an old pic of yours and it could be deemed like you were "sassy" or effeminate or sth.
Oh, ur just talking about pics that u feel u look a lil SWEET in, ok
So you are familiar now?
Iono i always thought the lite or heaviness of a flow :dead: was based on how bad u had to pee or if its been a while. Sometimes u go to the bathroom cause feel a lil tingle so u only pee a lil. Never would i think it could be sexy or more or less masculine
but ion to the OP ... I've never defined it
but either one can also be dominant or passive
I like bubbly pop music at times ..... and fierce things at times, and looking at MEN
but I also like sports, n cars, n guns, n stuff
so I classify myself as dom' masc' :supluv:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:18:33 PM
But back to the topic at hand, what so yall give offline behavior wise?
I stopped getting clocked once I hit high school and learned how to walk without a switch and relax my mannerisms. I went through a strictly masc period where I literally mimicked everything my brothers did in terms how to walk, talk, sit etc;
I eventually let go of all of that and learned to find a healthy balance between being comfortable and avoiding giving anything away.
Same, I still was clocked here and there though because my "femininity" in elementary & middle school followed me .
I emulated the Black men in my neighborhood mostly and that caused me to behave a certain way. A way in which inherently became a part of who I am, unfortunately.
I think where we differ is I stopped caring about being clockable or not. When I started dabbling in the gay realm and I discovered that more masculine oriented men are constantly persecuted and met with skepticism from their peers I kinda just said fuck it, I need to find out who I am and not be too concerned with how that looks to others. This didn't really happen until a few years ago honestly.
Masculinity is such a fragile thing, no matter ur orientation or sex even.
this is a question I've had about that Todd Chrisley guy :dead:
I have always classified being a dad as a very MANLY thing
but he's clearly very fem and the head of the household ....
I dunno, do yawl get closet or cover up tea from it?
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:36:11 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
I was looking at old home videos with my mom not too long ago and was CRINGING
:bvy:
omg I know this feeling though. I hate some of my older pics. Between looking a FOOL due to puberty, crazy fashions, and then having that light watchamacallit SPARKLE nnnn
It is something you can truly shame someone about. :gorlonfire:
Im not familiar, clue me in
I think gays are sensitive to pictures where they could potentially look feminine or fruity, even if it is just harmless kid pictures, but you feel some sort of shame if you see an old pic of yours and it could be deemed like you were "sassy" or effeminate or sth.
Oh, ur just talking about pics that u feel u look a lil SWEET in, ok
So you are familiar now?
Yea but i don't necessarily attribute that to masculine or feminine.......all the time. Cause sometimes u can look at a picture and be like wow, he sure looks gay. I think it can be how soft your features are, how "pretty" of a man u are, etc. Ive seen straight masculine guys look a lil sweet in a picture
Yummy, Malc, Bre, was the young femininity due to surroundings? Like did you grow up with alot of sisters or women as a child?
I kinda developed a great deal of respect for gay Blk men(especially), Str8 Blk men, and women who were unabashedly themselves. I really wish I never bought into those messages from when I was a kid. That damage stays with you for so long and you really have to be proactive in order to learn how to heal from it.
Eh I could have been a completely different person had I not been trying to survive and escape ridicule. I bet so many other's deal with this too.
Quote from: DOMINICAN. on October 14, 2016, 02:41:32 PM
this is a question I've had about that Todd Chrisley guy :dead:
I have always classified being a dad as a very MANLY thing
but he's clearly very fem and the head of the household ....
I dunno, do yawl get closet or cover up tea from it?
Which is why i dont limit feminity to gay or straight. He's very effeminate to me but from what i know, he's a heterosexual male. I dont think he's gay but i don't care either. He says he's not gay, who am i to question it because he doesnt fit what i feel a stereotypical straight male is.
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 02:43:08 PM
Yummy, Malc, Bre, was the young femininity due to surroundings? Like did you grow up with alot of sisters or women as a child?
g
Nah. I had men around growing up. My earliest memory is playing house with some boy in preschool...and naturally that went left.
I usually disliked the men in my fam growing up but then as a teen I just hated everyone.
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 02:18:33 PM
But back to the topic at hand, what so yall give offline behavior wise?
I stopped getting clocked once I hit high school and learned how to walk without a switch and relax my mannerisms. I went through a strictly masc period where I literally mimicked everything my brothers did in terms how to walk, talk, sit etc;
I eventually let go of all of that and learned to find a healthy balance between being comfortable and avoiding giving anything away.
Same, I still was clocked here and there though because my "femininity" in elementary & middle school followed me .
I emulated the Black men in my neighborhood mostly and that caused me to behave a certain way. A way in which inherently became a part of who I am, unfortunately.
I think where we differ is I stopped caring about being clockable or not. When I started dabbling in the gay realm I discovered that more masculine oriented men are constantly persecuted and met with skepticism from their peers I kinda just said fuck it, I need to find out who I am and not be too concerned with how that looks to others. This didn't really happen until a few years ago honestly.
Masculinity is such a fragile thing, no matter ur orientation or sex even.
This is true because I've seen the gorls call another gay a phony because they're masc and not prancing around and straight women fume when they come across a gay who they find attractive.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:45:27 PM
Quote from: DOMINICAN. on October 14, 2016, 02:41:32 PM
this is a question I've had about that Todd Chrisley guy :dead:
I have always classified being a dad as a very MANLY thing
but he's clearly very fem and the head of the household ....
I dunno, do yawl get closet or cover up tea from it?
Which is why i dont limit feminity to gay or straight. He's very effeminate to me but from what i know, he's a heterosexual male. I dont think he's gay but i don't care either. He says he's not gay, who am i to question it because he doesnt fit what i feel a stereotypical straight male is.
If only more ppl thought like this tbh
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 02:43:08 PM
Yummy, Malc, Bre, was the young femininity due to surroundings? Like did you grow up with alot of sisters or women as a child?
Not really, I was just doing what I felt came natural to me. I have an older sister (different mom), but was raised with my two older brothers.
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 02:43:08 PM
Yummy, Malc, Bre, was the young femininity due to surroundings? Like did you grow up with alot of sisters or women as a child?
No sisters. Oldest of two. I did have very long pretty dreadlocks as a kid and a pretty girl like face I guess. I sometimes think, that because to many people I looked like a female, I liked to associate with them and play with them because they found me cute and embraced me, while white boys would tease me, also about my hair.
It was only later I realized all this "girly" behavior or activities, I actually found shitty and I don't think it is innately me, I just adapted to how I looked. People always asked if I was a girl as a kid. Like sports is literally a million times better than doing stereotypically girly stuff.. Back then I think I tried to identify with that, cause I could fit in somewhere...
I don't know if looking like a girl as a young kid (4-5) to other kinder garten kids made me gay or not, but I just don't feel any connection to females or femininity anymore whatsoever... I don't have any female friends, cause I don't like being around them, I feel like I can't be comfortable around them for some reason. I can more easily be close friends with guys.
Quote from: Columbo! PICASSO! on October 14, 2016, 01:56:34 PM
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In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Thats interesting. So do u know why u prefer someone to be blatantly gay? Like is that a conscious thing? Can a person be this smaller framed skinny bottom type and be just an everyday guy and u still be attracted to them? Or u need to know they're gay upon first impression for u to be into em?
I just prefer to be the dominate one and I guess it's also a looks thing for me too. Im a more built bigger guy so to me it feels normal to be with someone who is smaller than me. It just looks right to me. In my case opposites really do attract.
I don't have to know they are gay to date them if they are still skinny that's more important to me
What about height? I ask because my bf normally dated shorter guys before me. He's 6'2 and I'm 6'1. He got over that I guess.
Well im about 6 ft so I can only date guys shorter or my height. I hve Fuckdd taller skinny bottoms before and it always felt weird ha
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
I kinda developed a great deal of respect for gay Blk men(especially), Str8 Blk men, and women who were unabashedly themselves.
!!!
I changed SO much once I became exposed to more gay people. Specifically drag queens and trans people. I experience discrimination as a black man, of course
But when I went out to the club then to get food with a trans that wasn't passable, my eyes opened the Fck UP
:mmyulost:
It made me in a way lose some insecurities I had about being gay
Cause Lord, people will blatantly disrespect trans and drags on a level I didn't know existed
:mmyulost:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on October 14, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
In looking for a partner I don't like masc/muscle guys at all I prefer very gay acting type of guys
I can be friends with almost anyone though
So u associate a certain body type with masculinity? Thank you for the specifics btw.
Yes and no. There are A lot of muscle guys that are big ol bottom queens and that's a no for me too.
I like a smaller framed skinny bottom type guy who you can look at and know they are gay.
Thats interesting. So do u know why u prefer someone to be blatantly gay? Like is that a conscious thing? Can a person be this smaller framed skinny bottom type and be just an everyday guy and u still be attracted to them? Or u need to know they're gay upon first impression for u to be into em?
I just prefer to be the dominate one and I guess it's also a looks thing for me too. Im a more built bigger guy so to me it feels normal to be with someone who is smaller than me. It just looks right to me. In my case opposites really do attract.
I don't have to know they are gay to date them if they are still skinny that's more important to me
So dominance in ur mind is im big ur small and because I'm bigger, im dominant?
Yeah I can't be with anyone who wants to be dominant. I only can be with submissive guys only
And early on as a young black/Middle Eastern male I realized if I have a more sweet/soft demeanor and voice, I would not be villainified and demonized by teachers into some gangsta hoodlum. I developed an overtly articulate way of expressing myself and being super bubbly, so no one would ever think I am ghetto, mean or aggressive. The social stigma with being male and of color and working class, is hard to escape. You can basically x it out by acting a lil SWEET.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 02:45:27 PM
Quote from: DOMINICAN. on October 14, 2016, 02:41:32 PM
this is a question I've had about that Todd Chrisley guy :dead:
I have always classified being a dad as a very MANLY thing
but he's clearly very fem and the head of the household ....
I dunno, do yawl get closet or cover up tea from it?
Which is why i dont limit feminity to gay or straight. He's very effeminate to me but from what i know, he's a heterosexual male. I dont think he's gay but i don't care either. He says he's not gay, who am i to question it because he doesnt fit what i feel a stereotypical straight male is.
!!!!!!!
Great point. And if the black community came to this conclusion in the 50's or 60's we would've been so far ahead
they intertwine the two. At one point I was actually MORE concerned about being viewed as feminine or "not a man" rather than actually clocked for liking booch/dooch ... if that makes sense :dead:
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:51:39 PM
Quote from: Real on October 14, 2016, 02:43:08 PM
Yummy, Malc, Bre, was the young femininity due to surroundings? Like did you grow up with alot of sisters or women as a child?
No sisters. Oldest of two. I did have very long pretty dreadlocks as a kid and a pretty girl like face I guess. I sometimes think, that because to many people I looked like a female, I liked to associate with them and play with them because they found me cute and embraced me, while white boys would tease me, also about my hair.
It was only later I realized all this "girly" behavior or activities, I actually found shitty and I don't think it is innately me, I just adapted to how I looked. People always asked if I was a girl as a kid. Like sports is literally a million times better than doing stereotypically girly stuff.. Back then I think I tried to identify with that, cause I could fit in somewhere...
I don't know if looking like a girl as a young kid (4-5) to other kinder garten kids made me gay or not, but I just don't feel any connection to females or femininity anymore whatsoever... I don't have any female friends, cause I don't like being around them, I feel like I can't be comfortable around them for some reason. I can more easily be close friends with guys.
That's really interesting
Do you guys like women and girls around as friends? Could you chill on a bed/couch with them or travel with them, share your deep feelings etc?
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
I kinda developed a great deal of respect for gay Blk men(especially), Str8 Blk men, and women who were unabashedly themselves.
!!!
I changed SO much once I became exposed to more gay people. Specifically drag queens and trans people. I experience discrimination as a black man, of course
But when I went out to the club then to get food with a trans that wasn't passable, my eyes opened the Fck UP
:mmyulost:
It made me in a way lose some insecurities I had about being gay
Cause Lord, people will blatantly disrespect trans and drags on a level I didn't know existed
:mmyulost:
omg!
the clockable trans gorls have it the absolute worst; the stares, the way the trade cuts up, little kids pointing...
I couldn't imagine tbh.
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
I kinda developed a great deal of respect for gay Blk men(especially), Str8 Blk men, and women who were unabashedly themselves.
!!!
I changed SO much once I became exposed to more gay people. Specifically drag queens and trans people. I experience discrimination as a black man, of course
But when I went out to the club then to get food with a trans that wasn't passable, my eyes opened the Fck UP
:mmyulost:
It made me in a way lose some insecurities I had about being gay
Cause Lord, people will blatantly disrespect trans and drags on a level I didn't know existed
:mmyulost:
!!!!
I tell some of my trans clients all the time they're so fuckin powerful to me. To literally be attacked from cis, queer, straight,rich, black, and white folks all the time and still be able to face the world and be who you are...I could fuckin never :dead:
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:57:18 PM
Do you guys like women and girls around as friends? Could you chill on a bed/couch with them or travel with them, share your deep feelings etc?
we could chill in bed but we don't need to touch
:udontlookok:
my best friend is a woman and we have been friends for almost 10 years
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:57:18 PM
Do you guys like women and girls around as friends? Could you chill on a bed/couch with them or travel with them, share your deep feelings etc?
Some of my best friends in life or women. We do all of the above and more.
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:55:08 PM
And early on as a young black/Middle Eastern male I realized if I have a more sweet/soft demeanor and voice, I would not be villainified and demonized by teachers into some gangsta hoodlum. I developed an overtly articulate way of expressing myself and being super bubbly, so no one would ever think I am ghetto, mean or aggressive. The social stigma with being male and of color and working class, is hard to escape. You can basically x it out by acting a lil SWEET.
it's pretty much like that in America
:kii:
When you're a black male you're assumed to be aggressive and possibly violent but fags for the most part escape some of the sigma :kii:
I have great relationships with my femalr friends. Most of them are dykes tho.
:udontlookok:
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:57:18 PM
Do you guys like women and girls around as friends? Could you chill on a bed/couch with them or travel with them, share your deep feelings etc?
Some of my best friends in life or women. We do all of the above and more.
like what :ohwow:
woops
I was becoming cool with a girl at my job, but she started acting like Tamar Braxton around me after she found out I was gay.
I keep my distance now :hmph:
Like I wanted to be 'Bert deep in my heart since I was like 3 and not fckn Britney Spears. Bert was always my inspiration, and I always rooted for the boys in all the gaming shows. But iono for some reason I wanted to fit in with the girls so bad back then and started rejecting things that I associated with males that were being mean to me. And now I am fuming that I missed out on some of the cool stuff like being in a soccer club for dummy going to shitty Atomic Kitten choreo dance classes.
:plzstop:
I am jealous. I need to give females a chance. But it just feels weird. There is this bisexual girl, who I respect. Maybe I should hang out more with her.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 03:01:27 PM
I was becoming cool with a girl at my job, but she started acting like Tamar Braxton around me after she found out I was gay.
I keep my distance now :hmph:
:dead: :dead: :dead:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 03:01:27 PM
I was becoming cool with a girl at my job, but she started acting like Tamar Braxton around me after she found out I was gay.
I keep my distance now :hmph:
CCCVCCCXCCV
The first time I told a stranger female I was gay at work, she said OMG WE CAN GO SHOPPING NOW
I almost slapped that bitch
Wait, yall were talking about random girls? :uhh:
Do you also feel uncomfortable when/if you are in a friend group, and it is basically girl's night + you. I could NEVER. I don't see how gays do that.
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 03:01:27 PM
I was becoming cool with a girl at my job, but she started acting like Tamar Braxton around me after she found out I was gay.
I keep my distance now :hmph:
CCCVCCCXCCV
The first time I told a stranger female I was gay at work, she said OMG WE CAN GO SHOPPING NOW
I almost slapped that bitch
They always get always extra with you after they know what's up
I don't even act like that :diddraispoot: why are you?
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:55:08 PM
And early on as a young black/Middle Eastern male I realized if I have a more sweet/soft demeanor and voice, I would not be villainified and demonized by teachers into some gangsta hoodlum. I developed an overtly articulate way of expressing myself and being super bubbly, so no one would ever think I am ghetto, mean or aggressive. The social stigma with being male and of color and working class, is hard to escape. You can basically x it out by acting a lil SWEET.
Now this I feel. I didn't act sweet, but I was very self conscious about the way that I spoke grammar/vocab wise growing up for those same reasons. I lived with white family members for a few years as a child and they always made me feel inferior as opposed to their children because of it and it followed me for years, until I started speaking and carrying myself like them. I didn't grow out of it until my teens. But even now in professional situations, I'll get done speaking and replay what I said in my head to make sure I was "correct." I have a black man's voice, I use slang, and naturally have an "ethnic" acvent. But I can turn it off and on in a split second. Pretty sure that's what started my disdain for white people :dead:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:59:18 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:55:08 PM
And early on as a young black/Middle Eastern male I realized if I have a more sweet/soft demeanor and voice, I would not be villainified and demonized by teachers into some gangsta hoodlum. I developed an overtly articulate way of expressing myself and being super bubbly, so no one would ever think I am ghetto, mean or aggressive. The social stigma with being male and of color and working class, is hard to escape. You can basically x it out by acting a lil SWEET.
it's pretty much like that in America
:kii:
When you're a black male you're assumed to be aggressive and possibly violent but fags for the most part escape some of the sigma :kii:
One of the few instances of feminine perceived/gay privilege for PoC's.
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:57:18 PM
Do you guys like women and girls around as friends? Could you chill on a bed/couch with them or travel with them, share your deep feelings etc?
Some of my best friends in life or women. We do all of the above and more.
How much more :ohwow:
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 03:04:48 PM
Do you also feel uncomfortable when/if you are in a friend group, and it is basically girl's night + you. I could NEVER. I don't see how gays do that.
v
I perch with girls on vacation all the time.
There's usually 4 of us and posted to like :letsmessfag: :traciandchelle: :caseoftheherp:
Doesn't bother me
I honestly am more skeptical about Blk gay men being real friends with Blk straight men. I was pretty biased about it and believed it was legit possible up until recently.
Anyway share sentiments or experienced a real Blk straight friend that you didnt try to sleep with & vice versa?
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 03:01:27 PM
I was becoming cool with a girl at my job, but she started acting like Tamar Braxton around me after she found out I was gay.
I keep my distance now :hmph:
CCCVCCCXCCV
The first time I told a stranger female I was gay at work, she said OMG WE CAN GO SHOPPING NOW
I almost slapped that bitch
:plzstop:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 03:04:48 PM
Do you also feel uncomfortable when/if you are in a friend group, and it is basically girl's night + you. I could NEVER. I don't see how gays do that.
v
I perch with girls on vacation all the time.
There's usually 4 of us and posted to like :letsmessfag: :traciandchelle: :caseoftheherp:
Doesn't bother me
See this is where I need to escape the situation. Am not you bitches' accessory. And I also hate how you lose respect and esteem even more so to a female the moment they know you are gay. I think it is even worse with women than men. Coming out to a woman is like actively stripping yourself of straight male privilege.
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 02:57:18 PM
Do you guys like women and girls around as friends? Could you chill on a bed/couch with them or travel with them, share your deep feelings etc?
Some of my best friends in life or women. We do all of the above and more.
like what :ohwow:
ererrre
They're pretty pervy so we talk about sex a lot. They kinda helped me be more comfortable just speaking freely about it. They usually send nudes to be annoying and we all have pretty much seen each other naked.....and yeah thats enough chat lol
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:28:58 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:10:10 PM
For the non-gender binary folks...are you just as accepting when having a sexual partner?
Is a sexual preference/position governed by anything?
D.i.a.b.l.o
Care to take a gander?
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lybvngsDRk1r86gcro4_250.gif)
that fag skipped outta here
(http://media.giphy.com/media/ItzD2dGlYs9zy/giphy.gif)
this bond of yours sound sso edgy progressive and healthy
:stressed:
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 03:07:51 PM
I honestly am more skeptical about Blk gay men being real friends with Blk straight men. I was pretty biased about it and believed it was legit possible up until recently.
Anyway share sentiments or experienced a real Blk straight friend that you didnt try to sleep with & vice versa?
Outside some small talk with a few co-workers...me and straight dudes don't mesh too well.
The hyper masculine ones who catcall women and "damn that bitch got a fat ass" or "did you catch the game last night?"
:rudone:
I have a couple of female friends. I think it's good to be able to get that perspective. I don't think I could have a legit female friendship with a chick I wasn't at least a little attracted to though.
I hang and can be cordial with both. I don't prefer one gender over the other. But then again its hard to get close to me anyway. I'm particular about who I let in and tell things to.
i cnt do tha hyper masc' men either
vry annoyin' to me
most of my friens are straight male tho
mostly valley boys, goofy guys!
i have one female frien but we dnt talk as often as we did bac in HS well cuz..we grown & doin diff' things!
I love hyper masc guys
Come home from the gym yell at me for the House being a mess.
Push me a bit
Enough to make me scared
Then bend me over
:stressed:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 03:07:51 PM
I honestly am more skeptical about Blk gay men being real friends with Blk straight men. I was pretty biased about it and believed it was legit possible up until recently.
Anyway share sentiments or experienced a real Blk straight friend that you didnt try to sleep with & vice versa?
The hyper masculine ones who catcall women and "damn that bitch got a fat ass" or "did you catch the game last night?"
:rudone:
Yeah this is how I thought all of them were until recently. I couldn't ever see myself being friends with the hyper fags
Can't see myself being friends with a straight guy
I'll either be always horny or always bored
:rudone:
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:28:58 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:10:10 PM
For the non-gender binary folks...are you just as accepting when having a sexual partner?
Is a sexual preference/position governed by anything?
D.i.a.b.l.o
Care to take a gander?
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lybvngsDRk1r86gcro4_250.gif)
that fag skipped outta here
(http://media.giphy.com/media/ItzD2dGlYs9zy/giphy.gif)
To whom were you referring?
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on October 14, 2016, 03:40:41 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:28:58 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 01:10:10 PM
For the non-gender binary folks...are you just as accepting when having a sexual partner?
Is a sexual preference/position governed by anything?
D.i.a.b.l.o
Care to take a gander?
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lybvngsDRk1r86gcro4_250.gif)
that fag skipped outta here
(http://media.giphy.com/media/ItzD2dGlYs9zy/giphy.gif)
To whom were your referring?
You.
Ok cunt. Gimme a sec and I will share my thoughts.
Thankies,
Oh Yumz can you answer too if you don't mind?
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 03:07:51 PM
I honestly am more skeptical about Blk gay men being real friends with Blk straight men. I was pretty biased about it and believed it was legit possible up until recently.
Anyway share sentiments or experienced a real Blk straight friend that you didnt try to sleep with & vice versa?
Outside some small talk with a few co-workers...me and straight dudes don't mesh too well.
The hyper masculine ones who catcall women and "damn that bitch got a fat ass" or "did you catch the game last night?"
:rudone:
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
A few weeks ago a few of my former students who are 8th graders now visited my 7th grade class toward the end of the day. I was reading this boy's paper, and when he writes his "I" he does the circle for the dot.
He peeks at the paper my 8th grade student says, "is he gay?" I was like..."what?" :uhh:
He then says, "str8 dudes don't write their i's like that"
:hmph: I had to enlighten a bit.
ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddwhsm,csmn
i use to do hearts for my i's in skool
this was middle skool..b'fore i was evn thinkin' 'bout my sexual mess
i was jus tryna b diff'rent
Sexual proclivities, in my life at least, don?t revolve around gender roles or the idea of masculinity or femininity. I prefer vers guys, because I like to flip. I think there is something sexy about that fluidity. I?ve been with guys that have more traditional opinions on tops/bottoms. They don?t typically last with me. I?ve also been with transmen that have similar feelings and some that don?t. It?s sex. To me, it shouldn?t be bound by these types of restrictions or the limitations of labels.
Curiously enough, though, dom and sub labels mimic the whole masculine/feminine dichotomy in my eyes. It?s so complex and deeply rooted in people. I wish some folks would be more open-minded about blurring/erasing those types of labels and feel free to be themselves in bed and outside of bed.
n
Quote from: Tinker Hell on October 14, 2016, 03:48:36 PM
i use to do hearts for my eyes in skool
this was middle skool..b'fore i was evn thinkin' 'bout my sexual mess
i was jus tryna b diff'rent
Fuck you. You didn't make it out of pre-K, faggot.
'[
:diddraispoot:
Quote from: Tinker Hell on October 14, 2016, 03:48:36 PM
i use to do hearts for my i's in skool
this was middle skool..b'fore i was evn thinkin' 'bout my sexual mess
i was jus tryna b diff'rent
:plzstop:
this fag def' has tourettes ssns
i dnt evn talk to him for him to b quotin me!
Quote from: Tinker Hell on October 14, 2016, 03:51:40 PM
this fag def' has tourettes ssns
i dnt evn talk to him for him to b quotin me!
Whatever bitch. Anything else?
Quote from: Tinker Hell on October 14, 2016, 03:51:40 PM
this fag def' has tourettes ssns
i dnt evn talk to him for him to b quotin me!
:plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 14, 2016, 12:03:05 PM
I think alot of men have some sort of feminine trait
Basically
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 03:01:27 PM
I was becoming cool with a girl at my job, but she started acting like Tamar Braxton around me after she found out I was gay.
I keep my distance now :hmph:
Ugh I hate when people do this
Once they know you're gay everything goes out the window and suddenly they're that lady from Married To Medicine
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 14, 2016, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
My sister's used to put me in wigs and heels and make me learn 90s r&b choreography with them
I should've known then
:bvy:
d
asd'as;das
no one had to make me do it :supluv:
jjdnnfnfnfgggg !!!
I'd throw that towel on my head and GO!
I don't really care if you're feminine or whatever. I just don't like anybody that's over the top.
But my trans friends >
Quote from: FINE. on October 14, 2016, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 14, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 03:07:51 PM
I honestly am more skeptical about Blk gay men being real friends with Blk straight men. I was pretty biased about it and believed it was legit possible up until recently.
Anyway share sentiments or experienced a real Blk straight friend that you didnt try to sleep with & vice versa?
Outside some small talk with a few co-workers...me and straight dudes don't mesh too well.
The hyper masculine ones who catcall women and "damn that bitch got a fat ass" or "did you catch the game last night?"
:rudone:
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 14, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 14, 2016, 03:04:48 PM
Do you also feel uncomfortable when/if you are in a friend group, and it is basically girl's night + you. I could NEVER. I don't see how gays do that.
v
I perch with girls on vacation all the time.
There's usually 4 of us and posted to like :letsmessfag: :traciandchelle: :caseoftheherp:
Doesn't bother me
See this is where I need to escape the situation. Am not you bitches' accessory. And I also hate how you lose respect and esteem even more so to a female the moment they know you are gay. I think it is even worse with women than men. Coming out to a woman is like actively stripping yourself of straight male privilege.
v
no ive known these dykes since i was a teen
but new female friends? i am cautious of.
I think ppul see them separate
Its a yin and yang thing
But i also dont define a drag queen as feminine
Or a stud as masculine
Because to me they are both fake depictions of masculinity and femininity
Take don lemon for example hes what we call masculine for the most part but an edge of feminity that really gives him a mature edge but its complimentary to the whole package
I define it as a walk and demeaner and mannerisms
Quote from: Demm_ on October 14, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
A few weeks ago a few of my former students who are 8th graders now visited my 7th grade class toward the end of the day. I was reading this boy's paper, and when he writes his "I" he does the circle for the dot.
He peeks at the paper my 8th grade student says, "is he gay?" I was like..."what?" :uhh:
He then says, "str8 dudes don't write their i's like that"
:hmph: I had to enlighten a bit.
Omf one of my guy friends had his dorm room to himself up until a guy transferred in & he calls me and this other girl in there and is like "tell me if you think my roomate is gay." His "evidence" was good handwriting, Caramel Frappuchinos from Starbucks & Bagels. I coulda fucked him up
I do think his roommate's gay tho & not because of that tea.
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Quote from: Kurama on October 14, 2016, 03:07:51 PM
I honestly am more skeptical about Blk gay men being real friends with Blk straight men. I was pretty biased about it and believed it was legit possible up until recently.
Anyway share sentiments or experienced a real Blk straight friend that you didnt try to sleep with & vice versa?
Outside some small talk with a few co-workers...me and straight dudes don't mesh too well.
The hyper masculine ones who catcall women and "damn that bitch got a fat ass" or "did you catch the game last night?"
:rudone:
:plzstop:
All of my male best friends are straight, now that I think about it.
One I've known since elementary.
The others from college.