R&B music is not dead. The genre does not need saving. The genre needs support. Real support. If I hear or read one more statement from some of these mainstream R&B Artists (insert Tyrese here) saying that they are restoring, saving, or rescuing the genre from the dead, I?m going to run down Lake Shore Drive in Chicago yelling ?Wake UP!? (Laurence Fishburne School Daze voice). The only way to ?save? R&B is to go to the consumers? house, knock on their door and ask them to purchase more CD?s. Or, you can go to the offices of radio stations, record labels or television networks and beg them to play, support or respect all R&B Artists, not just a select few. Or, as an artist, you can tweet, post and support your peers? albums when they come out. Other than those specific things, you are not restoring anything. You are simply going on a useless tirade and promotional venture and appearing to be clueless about the industry.
R&B music is alive. It?s vibrant. There are many distinct voices, a lot of strong music and thousands of exhilarating live shows given to the public on an annual basis. From music festivals to small venues, the music is there for consumption. There are more and more albums dropping every year with good to excellent material. There?s something for every consumer. There is something for every radio station format. There is diversity and there were hit records placed on every R&B album that dropped this year. The sound can?t be denied. From Fantasia to Syleena Johnson, major record label or independent, R&B is an influential force.
The truth is that in 2015 we?ve seen some impressive new talent such as Leon Bridges and more seasoned artists such as Lalah Hathaway, Raheem DeVaughn, Charlie Wilson and Jill Scott deliver music that spoke to your soul. From Royalty, Reality Show to The Buffet, R&B has been given a diverse perspective of musical choices, good and bad, for the consumer to sift through. The problem is the consumer is just not sifting quickly enough to make a strong impact on sales and the industry is not assisting with the process. R&B is still a boutique genre that needs nurturing, development and respect.
Sales are sluggish. Who cares? At this point, R&B artists need to step up to the plate and change their perspective on promotion, social media usage, how the consumer receives their music, support of other artists and get out and perform. Tour, Tour, Tour! Big venues are nice but you can still build a solid base performing at a Highline Ballroom in NYC or a Yoshi?s in Oakland. It is up to the artists to keep this genre thriving. They have to stop looking for others to solve their problems and do the work themselves.
More R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
So, here?s the ugly truth. The genre doesn?t need saving; the artists? mentality does.
http://raprehab.com/the-truth-about-rb/
Nobody's reading that
Quote from: Abcd on December 28, 2015, 09:02:33 PM
Nobody's reading that
Nobody's buying Code Jarvis' Blood, hun.
But yeah I agree with the last paragraph. Especially the women.
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Abcd on December 28, 2015, 09:02:33 PM
Nobody's reading that
Nobody's buying Code Jarvis' Blood, hun.
That fckn buffet failed inspection luv. Nobody wants that shit either
Quote from: Abcd on December 28, 2015, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Abcd on December 28, 2015, 09:02:33 PM
Nobody's reading that
Nobody's buying Code Jarvis' Blood, hun.
That fckn buffet failed inspection luv. Nobody wants that shit either
Sold way more than Code Flop, monkey faggot!
At the end of the day, it boils down to BLACK PEOPLE buying the albums. It's no secret that black music is some of the most pirated music out there. The same get up and go folks get for patti pies, they need to get for R&B music and black artists in general. But they'll have a million and 1 excuses for why they don't buy such and such album but have the album illegally downloaded on their iphone.
QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else
That sounds kinda lame tbh.
Does anybody really want to see Frank go on tour with sTank?
or Bey on tour with some random R&B gorl ? and the competitiveness makes things interesting.
:sevynstreeter:
Quote from: Abcd on December 28, 2015, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Abcd on December 28, 2015, 09:02:33 PM
Nobody's reading that
Nobody's buying Code Jarvis' Blood, hun.
That fckn buffet failed inspection luv. Nobody wants that shit either
im sorry
D
D
D
S
Ddddd shshhshshs
D
D
Dd
The touring part makes sense.
But it didnt really help Mon'.
Not Billboard AND chartnews forgetting about that flop album. I have never.
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 28, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else
That sounds kinda lame tbh.
Does anybody really want to see Frank go on tour with sTank?
or Bey on tour with some random R&B gorl ? and the competitiveness makes things interesting.
:sevynstreeter:
Whit knew the tea. If anything the new gorls are insecure
here is Code Flop on the charts luv
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 28, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
and the competitiveness makes things interesting.
:sevynstreeter:
d
not when no one is checking for the genre.
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 28, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
and the competitiveness makes things interesting.
:sevynstreeter:
d
not when no one is checking for the genre.
I may just be thinking of Bey...
But it wouldn't hurt for the girls doing less tan 100k to band together on a Ladies of Soul kinda tour. tbh.
Get a cute budget that can cover enough stage to move, lights, LED graphics n stuff.
That would drum up interest.
Sis I agree
It's so sad
We need big name artist attending the BET and Soul Train awards
We need those Mowtown Lives, the Divas duets
We need mainstream support again.
And ABC special or CBS special where all of today's R&B artist have a platform to promote . There's no reason why they're selling 30k
They have NO support.
Monica for instance has done everything herself. She's a fucking get at her label but they don't care because she's R&B
They didn't even give the bitch a video or put the song on iTunes
Or send it to radio
Quote from: Abcd on December 28, 2015, 09:25:20 PM
Or send it to radio
No one cares. Boo hoo! Go cry on ya momma's titty.
The truth? Truth is you niggas bootleg Monica and Keyshia but purchase multiple fucking copies of aWHALe's album and her culture vulture ass.
QuoteFrom Fantasia to Syleena Johnson, major record label or independent, R&B is an influential force.
ds
sfds
d
s
s
s
gurl bye
Yes JRFM WAS NEVER SENT TO RADIO officially
Like wtf
She was on the charts for 6 months on her OWN
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:20:53 PM
Sis I agree
It's so sad
We need big name artist attending the BET and Soul Train awards
We need those Mowtown Lives, the Divas duets
We need mainstream support again.
And ABC special or CBS special where all of today's R&B artist have a platform to promote . There's no reason why they're selling 30k
!!!! Now that I think about it, I'm starting to believe it has to do with the black's crab in a barrel mentality. R&B thrived in the 90's and 00's because it made a lot of $$$. The black culture as a whole was IN back then. Now it's not. So there's no major machine behind the genre. Instead they would rather put a pale face on it and market it that way and I don't blame them tbqfh.
I don't agree with the end only because ppl are working together
I just posted Tank, & Jazmine touring together for a few dates
Chris & Trey toured together, Usher & August
I mean ppl are working together and still no one is buying
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:28:24 PM
Yes JRFM WAS NEVER SENT TO RADIO officially
Like wtf
She was on the charts for 6 months on her OWN
If they sent Flopyard Part' then I'm sure they sent JRFM
"I hate r & b & soul music but I LOVE adele, meghan trainor & sam smith"
-their racist ass fans lol :supluv:
They didn't bby I promise
They were Polow leaked the song
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:29:05 PM
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:20:53 PM
Sis I agree
It's so sad
We need big name artist attending the BET and Soul Train awards
We need those Mowtown Lives, the Divas duets
We need mainstream support again.
And ABC special or CBS special where all of today's R&B artist have a platform to promote . There's no reason why they're selling 30k
!!!! Now that I think about it, I'm starting to believe it has to do with the black's crab in a barrel mentality. R&B thrived in the 90's and 00's because it made a lot of $$$. The black culture as a whole was IN back then. Now it's not. So there's no major machine behind the genre. Instead they would rather put a pale face on it and market it that way and I don't blame them tbqfh.
!!!!
TBH, KUDOS to the artists who keep Doing R&B and are able to stay in the game
Monica always says this:
QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:32:59 PM
They didn't bby I promise
They were Polow leaked the song
That's sad :stressed:
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
what R&B females are hating on each other right now?
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
!!!!!
They were pissed Polow leaked the song *
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 28, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else
That sounds kinda lame tbh.
Does anybody really want to see Frank go on tour with sTank?
or Bey on tour with some random R&B gorl ? and the competitiveness makes things interesting.
:sevynstreeter:
n
it hurts more than helps. And obviously it wouldn't be random like the examples you just gave. The Styles should mesh
Rnb music needs to reinvent itself. Create a new genre, incorporate new elements, explore new horizons.
People are just sick of all these delayed acrobatic vocals, all these same delayed ass beats and the imagery that goes with it.
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
what R&B females are hating on each other right now?
What R&B females do u see touring and promoting together doing duets? And with major names like Bey & Rih?
It's not happening. R&B doesn't have the voice it use to have.
I really hope Tamar and Mo keep their word and tour together. They could be a force if they do this right. Old & New school R&B
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
I mean the fact that a lot of them have to text their friends to mention their album is tragic :kii:
The competitiveness is late, IMO.
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:29:21 PM
I don't agree with the end only because ppl are working together
I just posted Tank, & Jazmine touring together for a few dates
Chris & Trey toured together, Usher & August
I mean ppl are working together and still no one is buying
there isn't enough of it happening
especially with the females. We need WAY more of that
Quote from: mauza on December 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Rnb music needs to reinvent itself. Needs to create a new genre, incorporate new elements, explore new horizons.
People are just sick of all these delayed acrobatic vocals, all these same delayed ass beats and the imagery that goes with it.
there are plenty of R&B artist that are not like that
and they still don't sell
and if ppl are over acrobatic vocals
why is Adele selling like hot cakes? Ariana Grande, Jessie J, Tori Kelly etc?
Quote from: mauza on December 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Rnb music needs to reinvent itself. Create a new genre, incorporate new elements, explore new horizons.
People are just sick of all these delayed acrobatic vocals, all these same delayed ass beats and the imagery that goes with it.
Dance hasn't changed
Rock hasn't changed
Country hasn't changed
R&B shouldn't change to become relevant. I get the exploring new sounds part but they need to stay true to themselves as well
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:29:21 PM
I don't agree with the end only because ppl are working together
I just posted Tank, & Jazmine touring together for a few dates
Chris & Trey toured together, Usher & August
I mean ppl are working together and still no one is buying
there isn't enough of it happening
especially with the females. We need WAY more of that
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
what R&B females are hating on each other right now?
ch
a whole lot behind the scenes. they're mostly catty and a fuckin mess and insecure
There really needs to be a massive televised special; with new and old school R&B. I think it would help
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:40:37 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
I mean the fact that a lot of them have to text their friends to mention their album is tragic :kii:
The competitiveness is late, IMO.
:plzstop:
unless one of them makes the first move, they are NOT about to promote the other girls mess. Its so late. Many girls get interviewed about it and say the same
I've seen Ciara, Keri and Monica say it on multiple occasions
Monica ; I give her credit. She promotes and supports so many people.
Nicki came to the tour, and that's cute, but I really wanna see her promote her Queen like the Stan she says she is. Though I'm sure politics are involved
We of release she was posting about Chris also. That bitch is so real. One of the reasons why I'll always Stan.
Quote from: mauza on December 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Rnb music needs to reinvent itself. Create a new genre, incorporate new elements, explore new horizons.
People are just sick of all these delayed acrobatic vocals, all these same delayed ass beats and the imagery that goes with it.
s
There are plenty of edgy R&B artists out there (See: PBR&B). Personally, I appreciate the R&B artists who stay true to the genre and don't turn into Drake.
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
what R&B females are hating on each other right now?
What R&B females do u see touring and promoting together doing duets? And with major names like Bey & Rih?
It's not happening. R&B doesn't have the voice it use to have.
I really hope Tamar and Mo keep their word and tour together. They could be a force if they do this right. Old & New school R&B
didnt Mary just tour with Tamar?
Bey, Kelly & Michelle get together like once every year
Faith put out her duet with Keke Wyatt, it got ignored
K Michelle and Tamar performed together at the BET awards
Lalah H and Chrisette did the Soul Train cypher
each example no one responds to
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:45:38 PM
Nicki came to the tour, and that's cute, but I really wanna see her promote her Queen like the Stan she says she is. Though I'm sure politics are involved
c;;ccvvvvv "and thats cute n stuff BUT :uhh: "
:plzstop:
that girl coulda put a TWEET mess out
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:45:38 PM
Monica ; I give her credit. She promotes and supports so many people.
Nicki came to the tour, and that's cute, but I really wanna see her promote her Queen like the Stan she says she is. Though I'm sure politics are involved
cxvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
Maybe, there has to be some sort of agreement cause I remember when 'Bert posted about Chris last album. His management made sure to put " - Red Light Management" to verify it wasn't 'Bert promoting the album. :uhh:
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:45:38 PM
Nicki came to the tour, and that's cute, but I really wanna see her promote her Queen like the Stan she says she is. Though I'm sure politics are involved
c;;ccvvvvv "and thats cute n stuff BUT :uhh: "
:plzstop:
that girl coulda put a TWEET mess out
!!!
Like seriously
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:48:47 PM
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:45:38 PM
Monica ; I give her credit. She promotes and supports so many people.
Nicki came to the tour, and that's cute, but I really wanna see her promote her Queen like the Stan she says she is. Though I'm sure politics are involved
cxvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
Maybe, there has to be some sort of agreement cause I remember when 'Bert posted about Chris last album. His management made sure to put " - Red Light Management" to verify it wasn't 'Bert promoting the album. :uhh:
Oh wow that's weird
I believe the industry is very shady behind the scenes
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
what R&B females are hating on each other right now?
What R&B females do u see touring and promoting together doing duets? And with major names like Bey & Rih?
It's not happening. R&B doesn't have the voice it use to have.
I really hope Tamar and Mo keep their word and tour together. They could be a force if they do this right. Old & New school R&B
didnt Mary just tour with Tamar?
Bey, Kelly & Michelle get together like once every year
Faith put out her duet with Keke Wyatt, it got ignored
K Michelle and Tamar performed together at the BET awards
Lalah H and Chrisette did the Soul Train cypher
each example no one responds to
thats great. just need more of it consistently
No one is saying this will be the sole reason sales increase but it'll HELP. Not just when some labels force the girls together :dead: that forced Tamar and K.michele mess. They'll never get on another stage together. literally shading each other days after the performance smh
Faith and Keke are friends and thats great, but even Faith had Issues with Fantasia backstage at a recent show on BET when Faith did the J.cole song. Some real catty shit about how long each of them were supposed to rehearse or some shit. Its ALWAYS some mess
yeah its mostly we need to support but how can we support when moat of todays rnb music just isnt good lol
i mean tyrse did all that HOOPIN and HOLLERIN but his album was HORR'' the only reason he sold that much cause he wouldnt shut up lolz
There's no machine behind R&B anymore
Ppl expect too much from female duets
Look at IABTM, Bey and Mary Love A Woman, Bey and Alicia Put It In A Love Song
always so many complaints
white ppl LOVED Jessie J and Ariana together even if the song wasn't the greatest
they pushed that shit to the top 10
The whole black ppl needing to support R&B argument is so slavely
I do like how Chris and Trey went on tour together and brought all those R&B acts as special guests. That was dope. The males def. show love more. Maybe, that's why many of them last longer in the business.
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:53:08 PM
I do like how Chris and Trey went on tour together and brought all those R&B acts as special guests. That was dope. The males def. show love more. Maybe, that's why many of them last longer in the business.
yea, people forget that EVERYONE was into R&B. its not that black people aren't supporting ... i think the main thing is, everyone else has simply lost interest :dead: it isn't "cool" anymore to sing ur ass off
You basically have to rap or talk/sing
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:50:32 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
what R&B females are hating on each other right now?
What R&B females do u see touring and promoting together doing duets? And with major names like Bey & Rih?
It's not happening. R&B doesn't have the voice it use to have.
I really hope Tamar and Mo keep their word and tour together. They could be a force if they do this right. Old & New school R&B
didnt Mary just tour with Tamar?
Bey, Kelly & Michelle get together like once every year
Faith put out her duet with Keke Wyatt, it got ignored
K Michelle and Tamar performed together at the BET awards
Lalah H and Chrisette did the Soul Train cypher
each example no one responds to
thats great. just need more of it consistently
No one is saying this will be the sole reason sales increase but it'll HELP. Not just when some labels force the girls together :dead: that forced Tamar and K.michele mess. They'll never get on another stage together. literally shading each other days after the performance smh
Faith and Keke are friends and thats great, but even Faith had Issues with Fantasia backstage at a recent show on BET when Faith did the J.cole song. Some real catty shit about how long each of them were supposed to rehearse or some shit. Its ALWAYS some mess
not Fantasia & Faith :(
but see that was behind the scenes, I didn't hear anything about that
they kept it professional on camera, tbh. I mean who cares if they shade each other. Aretha, Dionne, Patti & the older legends did it all the time. That shouldn't stop ppl from buying, hell it should create buzz and generate more
and Chris last album had like three duets with different R&B artists. He slays for that.
Also Ty $. Always showing love.
Love that boy.
Buying music just isn't a priority. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's a lot more important shit to put money toward
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:57:02 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:50:32 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
what R&B females are hating on each other right now?
What R&B females do u see touring and promoting together doing duets? And with major names like Bey & Rih?
It's not happening. R&B doesn't have the voice it use to have.
I really hope Tamar and Mo keep their word and tour together. They could be a force if they do this right. Old & New school R&B
didnt Mary just tour with Tamar?
Bey, Kelly & Michelle get together like once every year
Faith put out her duet with Keke Wyatt, it got ignored
K Michelle and Tamar performed together at the BET awards
Lalah H and Chrisette did the Soul Train cypher
each example no one responds to
thats great. just need more of it consistently
No one is saying this will be the sole reason sales increase but it'll HELP. Not just when some labels force the girls together :dead: that forced Tamar and K.michele mess. They'll never get on another stage together. literally shading each other days after the performance smh
Faith and Keke are friends and thats great, but even Faith had Issues with Fantasia backstage at a recent show on BET when Faith did the J.cole song. Some real catty shit about how long each of them were supposed to rehearse or some shit. Its ALWAYS some mess
not Fantasia & Faith :(
but see that was behind the scenes, I didn't hear anything about that
they kept it professional on camera, tbh. I mean who cares if they shade each other. Aretha, Dionne, Patti & the older legends did it all the time. That shouldn't stop ppl from buying, hell it should create buzz and generate more
this is true. the only sucky thing about it is, it can affect future working relationships and become a one time thing. But i agree with you ... its gonna take a lot more than just getting together and touring together.
Especially when you come out with a song as late as Backyard Potty
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 09:59:46 PM
Buying music just isn't a priority.
- A Ciara fan
and you wonder why the bitch is the bottom of the bottom. 19k selling self.
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:54:06 PM
yea, people forget that EVERYONE was into R&B. its not that black people aren't supporting ... i think the main thing is, everyone else has simply lost interest :dead: it isn't "cool" anymore to sing ur ass off
You basically have to rap or talk/sing
bitch u know what i need to put out an album fuck this
my nnew album
NAUGHTY NICK coming soon ... late 2016ish!! :jetbeauty:
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 28, 2015, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:54:06 PM
yea, people forget that EVERYONE was into R&B. its not that black people aren't supporting ... i think the main thing is, everyone else has simply lost interest :dead: it isn't "cool" anymore to sing ur ass off
You basically have to rap or talk/sing
bitch u know what i need to put out an album fuck this
my nnew album NAUGHTY NICK coming soon ... late 2016ish!! :jetbeauty:
:receipts:
send ur pic
idk I don't really like mainstream R&B anymore. It sounds so late and stale.
I prefer what they call PBR&B
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:41:30 PM
Quote from: mauza on December 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Rnb music needs to reinvent itself. Needs to create a new genre, incorporate new elements, explore new horizons.
People are just sick of all these delayed acrobatic vocals, all these same delayed ass beats and the imagery that goes with it.
why is Adele selling like hot cakes? Ariana Grande, Jessie J, Tori Kelly etc?
I don't know to be honest... The "imagery" maybe? And I'm not talking about being black or the race issue. Like I said in a previous thread Beyonc? or Rihanna are doing very well. I think that hip-hop greatly unfluenced rnb music in a negative way in term of codes and images (pools, bitches, cars, money, ghettos... dlldldldld). People tend to associate these two genres of music. I think it's time for rnb to emancipate itself from the hip hop influence and explore a whole new sound.
:letsmessfag:
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 28, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
and the competitiveness makes things interesting.
:sevynstreeter:
d
not when no one is checking for the genre.
do you feel rnb is too hard to grasp these days meaning some songs are too wordy
ppl want simple shit they can single along easy too and something they feel like THEY sound good singing
i mean taylor swift anyone can sing that she isnt even vocals or range or good lyrics but her choruses are catchy and are easy to sing along too .. same with most of the billboard top 10
cause baby we got bad blood
you know it used to be mad love
so take a look at what youve done
cause baby now we got bad blood
are we outta the woods yet
are we outta the woods yet
are we outta the woods yet
are we in the clear yet
are we in the clear yet
haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate
players gonna play play play play play
i wonder if rnb artist made silly childish lyrics like that would it sell??
maybe they are trying to hard
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 09:59:46 PM
Buying music just isn't a priority.
- A Ciara fan
and you wonder why
She just got her 6th plat single while Kellz ain't seen platinum shit since Usher threw him a bone with Same Girl? Silly dyke, I don't wonder shit
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 09:59:46 PM
Buying music just isn't a priority.
- A Ciara fan
and you wonder why
She just got her 6th plat single
Stop spreading this lie, dyke and keep dreaming. RIAA says no ma'am.
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 28, 2015, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 28, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
and the competitiveness makes things interesting.
:sevynstreeter:
d
not when no one is checking for the genre.
do you feel rnb is too hard to grasp these days meaning some songs are too wordy
ppl want simple shit they can single along easy too and something they feel like THEY sound good singing
i mean taylor swift anyone can sing that she isnt even vocals or range or good lyrics but her choruses are catchy and are easy to sing along too .. same with most of the billboard top 10
cause baby we got bad blood
you know it used to be mad love
so take a look at what youve done
cause baby now we got bad blood
are we outta the woods yet
are we outta the woods yet
are we outta the woods yet
are we in the clear yet
are we in the clear yet
haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate
players gonna play play play play play
i wonder if rnb artist made silly childish lyrics like that would it sell??
maybe they are trying to hard
Maybe, but you still have ur alternative girls that sell very well. I think people just want something they can sing along too. People dont wanna "sang" along, they wanna casually sing along
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 10:17:29 PM
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 09:59:46 PM
Buying music just isn't a priority.
- A Ciara fan
and you wonder why
She just got her 6th plat single
Stop spreading this
http://www.justjared.com/2015/12/17/ciara-celebrates-i-bet-becoming-certified-platinum/
No one's lying lol
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 10:24:12 PM
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 28, 2015, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 28, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
and the competitiveness makes things interesting.
:sevynstreeter:
d
not when no one is checking for the genre.
do you feel rnb is too hard to grasp these days meaning some songs are too wordy
ppl want simple shit they can single along easy too and something they feel like THEY sound good singing
i mean taylor swift anyone can sing that she isnt even vocals or range or good lyrics but her choruses are catchy and are easy to sing along too .. same with most of the billboard top 10
cause baby we got bad blood
you know it used to be mad love
so take a look at what youve done
cause baby now we got bad blood
are we outta the woods yet
are we outta the woods yet
are we outta the woods yet
are we in the clear yet
are we in the clear yet
haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate
players gonna play play play play play
i wonder if rnb artist made silly childish lyrics like that would it sell??
maybe they are trying to hard
Maybe, but you still have ur alternative girls that sell very well. I think people just want something they can sing along too. People dont wanna "sang" along, they wanna casually sing along
yep i agree! thats what i want for bran tbh we know she can SANGG we have 6 albums of that but i want queen to give his one more top 10 with one of those catchy songs
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 10:26:45 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 10:17:29 PM
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 09:59:46 PM
Buying music just isn't a priority.
- A Ciara fan
and you wonder why
She just got her 6th plat single
Stop spreading this
http://www.justjared.com/2015/12/17/ciara-celebrates-i-bet-becoming-certified-platinum/
No one's lying lol
Not Just Jared fjjjj Where's the RIAA cert?
(http://i44.tinypic.com/qpqjx1.gif)
Males are def more supportive.
The females are wayyyy too catty. K and Tamar had beef. Keyshia done had beef with Fantasia before. It's always some story somewhere lol. Even Anita had her share of beef lmao, just wasn't any social media to exploit it.
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:12:14 PM
Not Billboard AND chartnews forgetting about that flop album. I have never.
!!!!!
:kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 28, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else
That sounds kinda lame tbh.
Does anybody really want to see Frank go on tour with sTank?
or Bey on tour with some random R&B gorl ? and the competitiveness makes things interesting.
:sevynstreeter:
Right.
And I know over here the Urban AC artists - Keke, Kelly Price, Joe etc tour together quite regularly.
Quote from: Abcd on December 28, 2015, 09:02:33 PM
Nobody's reading that
i read it .....maybe you should give it a try and save our music :ATLcameo:
Quote from: mauza on December 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Rnb music needs to reinvent itself. Create a new genre, incorporate new elements, explore new horizons.
People are just sick of all these delayed acrobatic vocals, all these same delayed ass beats and the imagery that goes with it.
Kelly is the only female artist I've seen on social media except for maybe Monica that I see promote other people shit. I think her and Rico had a falling out and she still promoted his mess. Sis even did a radio mess telling people to pick up Keyshia's flop mess.
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
what R&B females are hating on each other right now?
What R&B females do u see touring and promoting together doing duets? And with major names like Bey & Rih?
It's not happening. R&B doesn't have the voice it use to have.
I really hope Tamar and Mo keep their word and tour together. They could be a force if they do this right. Old & New school R&B
didnt Mary just tour with Tamar?
Bey, Kelly & Michelle get together like once every year
Faith put out her duet with Keke Wyatt, it got ignored
K Michelle and Tamar performed together at the BET awards
Lalah H and Chrisette did the Soul Train cypher
each example no one responds to
hhh you are so difficult
Quote from: 4everRayanafan on December 29, 2015, 04:12:40 AM
Quote from: Abcd on December 28, 2015, 09:02:33 PM
Nobody's reading that
i read it .....maybe you should give it a try and save our music :ATLcameo:
Did ya really luv? :usuresis:
It was clearly a joke. My responses are all up n thru
Quote from: DidYouKnowVersace? on December 29, 2015, 08:33:25 AM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 28, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Monica always says this: QuoteMore R&B artists need to support each other. Real support means touring together, forming alliances, dropping the ego and competitive spirit and rising up together. This means so-called mainstream R&B artists that get those major looks at radio or television need to reach out and down; to uplift someone else. Hip Hop gets it! Rap artists support each other. They are the perfect example of combining resources, forming alliances and winning together.
And i agree. Especially the R&B females ... their competitive spirit isn't in a healthy way. They all hate on, and shade each other :dead: Lalah Hathaway sits up on twitter and does it all the time
what R&B females are hating on each other right now?
What R&B females do u see touring and promoting together doing duets? And with major names like Bey & Rih?
It's not happening. R&B doesn't have the voice it use to have.
I really hope Tamar and Mo keep their word and tour together. They could be a force if they do this right. Old & New school R&B
didnt Mary just tour with Tamar?
Bey, Kelly & Michelle get together like once every year
Faith put out her duet with Keke Wyatt, it got ignored
K Michelle and Tamar performed together at the BET awards
Lalah H and Chrisette did the Soul Train cypher
each example no one responds to
hhh you are so difficult
put me on ignore
it'll save you a lot of stress
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 10:26:45 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 10:17:29 PM
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: straplis on December 28, 2015, 09:59:46 PM
Buying music just isn't a priority.
- A Ciara fan
and you wonder why
She just got her 6th plat single
Stop spreading this
http://www.justjared.com/2015/12/17/ciara-celebrates-i-bet-becoming-certified-platinum/
No one's lying lol
I believe it's platinum.It would be a little better if it were based on sales though.Still good.
I kinda agree with this article at certain times.....and some of the artists mentalities do need to change
I agree 100%... Rap definitely gets it. R&B artists need to come together, collaborate and just support each other. You rarely see they R&B girls getting together and making things happen. And if they do. Some are busy trying too outshine the next. I can't remember when last I've purchased an R&B. I just don't get excited anymore.
Some of these beats are so boring and recycled. I need some live instrumentation or hip hop influences. I really like Frank Ocean's approach.
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 09:54:06 PM
yea, people forget that EVERYONE was into R&B. its not that black people aren't supporting ... i think the main thing is, everyone else has simply lost interest :dead: it isn't "cool" anymore to sing ur ass off
You basically have to rap or talk/sing
Yeah, I'm not really seeing how black people are to blame for other audiences losing interest in R&B :dead: but damn you niggers! crabs!
R&B of the 90's was more Universal topic wise. The People that weren't black, Urban, etc... could relate and GET IN.
Nowadays you buy an R&B album and it's
"Nigga! Whhhyyyyy You Lyin.. wooo wooo. We Got that Hood LOoooveeee"
"Can weeeee smoke weeed and chillllll"
If R&B Singers stop trying to sing these hood rap lyrics with soul that would help too. Adele's album for example is very Universal anybody from Shaquita to Heather Anne can relate and get in. Same reason why I feel Brandy NSN is her most successful album. the content was universal and had push behind it.
This On top of touring together even more and having SUPPORT from their labels could help R&B.Yes, there is Universal R&B out there but there's not support or push behind it.
But why does everyone have to make music like Adele tho?
Quote from: Abcd on December 29, 2015, 08:45:58 AM
Quote from: 4everRayanafan on December 29, 2015, 04:12:40 AM
Quote from: Abcd on December 28, 2015, 09:02:33 PM
Nobody's reading that
i read it .....maybe you should give it a try and save our music :ATLcameo:
Did ya really luv? :usuresis:
It was clearly a joke. My responses are all up n thru
i did :rthosehotwings:
Quote from: Scott. on December 29, 2015, 12:39:42 PM
But why does everyone have to make music like Adele tho?
I don't think it has to Sound like it but the content/lyrics have to be universal if you want universal or mass interest.
If you're singing your heart out about wanting a hood nigga and hood love you obviously want to appeal to a hood demographic and not a universal demographic.
I think that's why Mary's Breakthrough, Brandy's NSN, Keyshia's just like me, Monica TBIM, Alicia keys, etc... We're successful
Quote from: VirgoMind on December 29, 2015, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: Scott. on December 29, 2015, 12:39:42 PM
But why does everyone have to make music like Adele tho?
I don't think it has to Sound like it but the content/lyrics have to be universal if you want universal or mass interest.
If you're singing your heart out about wanting a hood nigga and hood love you obviously want to appeal to a hood demographic and not a universal demographic.
I think that's why Mary's Breakthrough, Brandy's NSN, Keyshia's just like me, Monica TBIM, Alicia keys, etc... We're successful
i agree
R&B is not dead :uhh:
It's just evolved, unfortunately the artists we grew listening to were unable to evolve with it.
I wish people would stop looking at mainstream radio as an indicator of the ?state of R&B". Someone like Kelela hasn't had a single Top 20 but she has a significant online and festival fanbase.
R&B is dying. It's a code red situation.
I mean just look at the numbers and chart positions.
Can't make this stuff up
Quote from: Young on December 29, 2015, 04:32:31 PM
R&B is dying. It's a code red situation.
gorl shut up :plzstop:
Quote from: VirgoMind on December 29, 2015, 11:53:54 AM
R&B of the 90's was more Universal topic wise. The People that weren't black, Urban, etc... could relate and GET IN.
Nowadays you buy an R&B album and it's
"Nigga! Whhhyyyyy You Lyin.. wooo wooo. We Got that Hood LOoooveeee"
"Can weeeee smoke weeed and chillllll"
If R&B Singers stop trying to sing these hood rap lyrics with soul that would help too. Adele's album for example is very Universal anybody from Shaquita to Heather Anne can relate and get in. Same reason why I feel Brandy NSN is her most successful album. the content was universal and had push behind it.
This On top of touring together even more and having SUPPORT from their labels could help R&B.Yes, there is Universal R&B out there but there's not support or push behind it.
Give me a fucking break. Yall really think adele is some soul music god or something. Please.
Stop holding that fat bitch adele up to some standard when jazmine sullivan, jill scott, erykah badu etc all make strong empowering lyrics yet never seen the same heights. It all comes down to her being white and white people only supporting r & b when there's some blonde hair blue eyed face behind it, period.
Quote from: Genesis on December 28, 2015, 09:26:54 PM
The truth? Truth is you niggas bootleg Monica and Keyshia but purchase multiple fucking copies of aWHALe's album and her culture vulture ass.
OOP!
Quote from: VirgoMind on December 29, 2015, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: Scott. on December 29, 2015, 12:39:42 PM
But why does everyone have to make music like Adele tho?
I don't think it has to Sound like it but the content/lyrics have to be universal if you want universal or mass interest.
If you're singing your heart out about wanting a hood nigga and hood love you obviously want to appeal to a hood demographic and not a universal demographic.
I think that's why Mary's Breakthrough, Brandy's NSN, Keyshia's just like me, Monica TBIM, Alicia keys, etc... We're successful
Ok so Jazmine has a song called Mona Lisa/Masterpiece
and she has Let It Burn out right now
they do not have "hood" lyrics and yet they flopped
what's your explanation for that?
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:29:05 PM
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:20:53 PM
Sis I agree
It's so sad
We need big name artist attending the BET and Soul Train awards
We need those Mowtown Lives, the Divas duets
We need mainstream support again.
And ABC special or CBS special where all of today's R&B artist have a platform to promote . There's no reason why they're selling 30k
!!!! Now that I think about it, I'm starting to believe it has to do with the black's crab in a barrel mentality. R&B thrived in the 90's and 00's because it made a lot of $$$. The black culture as a whole was IN back then. Now it's not. So there's no major machine behind the genre. Instead they would rather put a pale face on it and market it that way and I don't blame them tbqfh.
That's just it. The industry is making the face of "R&B" White. A White person singing R&B music gets played on all formats and gets label support for days. Black artists only get played at Urban.
For example KIIS-FM, a top 40 radio station, is the biggest station in Los Angeles. Drake's "Hotline Bling" has been everywhere, but whenever KIIS plays the song they ALWAYS play this version:
Like, if you didn't know any better you would think it's the official mess.
I feel like this is just another way to put a White face on Black music.
I'm also here in Houston visiting right now, and my mom keeps it on the Urban AC station where they play more grown up & old school R&B. Tell me why I'm hearing Adele & Ed Sheeran being played regularly.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:29:05 PM
Quote from: Young on December 28, 2015, 09:20:53 PM
Sis I agree
It's so sad
We need big name artist attending the BET and Soul Train awards
We need those Mowtown Lives, the Divas duets
We need mainstream support again.
And ABC special or CBS special where all of today's R&B artist have a platform to promote . There's no reason why they're selling 30k
!!!! Now that I think about it, I'm starting to believe it has to do with the black's crab in a barrel mentality. R&B thrived in the 90's and 00's because it made a lot of $$$. The black culture as a whole was IN back then. Now it's not. So there's no major machine behind the genre. Instead they would rather put a pale face on it and market it that way and I don't blame them tbqfh.
That's just it. The industry is making the face of "R&B" White. A White person singing R&B music gets played on all formats and gets label support for days. Black artists only get played at Urban.
For example KIIS-FM, a top 40 radio station, is the biggest station in Los Angeles. Drake's "Hotline Bling" has been everywhere, but whenever KIIS plays the song they ALWAYS play this version:
Like, if you didn't know any better you would think it's the official mess.
I feel like this is just another way to put a White face on Black music.
I'm also here in Houston visiting right now, and my mom keeps it on the Urban AC station where they play more grown up & old school R&B. Tell me why I'm hearing Adele & Ed Sheeran being played regularly.
nnnn
I just realised, BET did't do their Christmas special this year.
They usually have a bunch of R&B artists on their singing Christmas Carols.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 29, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
I just realised, BET did't do their Christmas special this year.
They usually have a bunch of R&B artists on their singing Christmas Carols.
They made it worse by cancelling 106 and park
The show could have been reformatted, since no one watches music videos on tv anymore.
Like, I'm looking at RCA's roster right now, and they could take their R&B girls:
- Jazmine
- Fantasia
- Jennifer Hudson
- Monica
- Elle Varner
Book them an arena date and give them a chance to show out a bit.
Price the tickets reasonably and I think all of them combined could do it.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 05:07:13 PM
Like, I'm looking at RCA's roster right now, and they could take their R&B girls:
- Jazmine
- Fantasia
- Jennifer Hudson
- Monica
- Elle Varner
Book them an arena date and give them a chance to show out a bit.
Price the tickets reasonably and I think all of them combined could do it.
i think thats tooo many .. i think maybe just 2 at a time would be better but not 5 girls
you dont see white girls doing that
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 29, 2015, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 05:07:13 PM
Like, I'm looking at RCA's roster right now, and they could take their R&B girls:
- Jazmine
- Fantasia
- Jennifer Hudson
- Monica
- Elle Varner
Book them an arena date and give them a chance to show out a bit.
Price the tickets reasonably and I think all of them combined could do it.
i think thats tooo many .. i think maybe just 2 at a time would be better but not 5 girls
you dont see white girls doing that
Rappers tour together at arenas and it WORKS.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 29, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
I just realised, BET did't do their Christmas special this year.
They usually have a bunch of R&B artists on their singing Christmas Carols.
BET is a part of the agenda. Cancelling 106 and that channel is slowly becoming a strictly TV show and movie channel. When was the last time the played music videos?
Its also lack of tv shows. Back then we had mtv diary, mtv fanatic, planet groove, trl, 106 and park, room raiders, access granted, cribs etc.
Now all we have is instagram :dead:
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 29, 2015, 04:35:48 PM
Quote from: Young on December 29, 2015, 04:32:31 PM
R&B is dying. It's a code red situation.
gorl shut up :plzstop:
qdsf s q
sds
I was about to post the same damn thing :kii:
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 28, 2015, 09:51:17 PM
yeah its mostly we need to support but how can we support when moat of todays rnb music just isnt good lol
Boy. Not when you go up for the most generic poppy, glow stick mess out there.
I honestly don't think you're a fan of R&B music in general outside of a couple of people.
And that's no shade. It's just a vibe I get.
Quote from: Genesis on December 29, 2015, 05:15:14 PM
Its also lack of tv shows. Back then we had mtv diary, mtv fanatic, planet groove, trl, 106 and park, room raiders, access granted, cribs etc.
Now all we have is instagram :dead:
We live in the age of social media. No one's rushing home to watch Beyonce premiere her new vidya on 106 & Porch anymore. :dead:
Quote from: Young on December 29, 2015, 04:32:31 PM
R&B is dying. It's a code red situation.
I mean just look at the numbers and chart positions.
Can't make this stuff up
xcvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
xvc
df
Billboard and Chartnews still didn't report the tea omf :stressed:
There needs to be more of a camaraderie between the R&B girls and they shouldn't be afraid to take musical risks.
Major part of the reason why R&B was so hugely successful is because it was a major contrast to the bubblegum pop phase of the late nineties/early 2000's and people were looking for something new.
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 28, 2015, 10:28:41 PM
Quote from: RIG on December 28, 2015, 10:24:12 PM
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 28, 2015, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 28, 2015, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 28, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
and the competitiveness makes things interesting.
:sevynstreeter:
d
not when no one is checking for the genre.
do you feel rnb is too hard to grasp these days meaning some songs are too wordy
ppl want simple shit they can single along easy too and something they feel like THEY sound good singing
i mean taylor swift anyone can sing that she isnt even vocals or range or good lyrics but her choruses are catchy and are easy to sing along too .. same with most of the billboard top 10
cause baby we got bad blood
you know it used to be mad love
so take a look at what youve done
cause baby now we got bad blood
are we outta the woods yet
are we outta the woods yet
are we outta the woods yet
are we in the clear yet
are we in the clear yet
haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate
players gonna play play play play play
i wonder if rnb artist made silly childish lyrics like that would it sell??
maybe they are trying to hard
Maybe, but you still have ur alternative girls that sell very well. I think people just want something they can sing along too. People dont wanna "sang" along, they wanna casually sing along
yep i agree! thats what i want for bran tbh we know she can SANGG we have 6 albums of that but i want queen to give his one more top 10 with one of those catchy songs
:melmel:
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 29, 2015, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 05:07:13 PM
Like, I'm looking at RCA's roster right now, and they could take their R&B girls:
- Jazmine
- Fantasia
- Jennifer Hudson
- Monica
- Elle Varner
Book them an arena date and give them a chance to show out a bit.
Price the tickets reasonably and I think all of them combined could do it.
i think thats tooo many .. i think maybe just 2 at a time would be better but not 5 girls
you dont see white girls doing that
To fill an arena with 15,000 seats I think it would be a safer bet to book all of them.
Maybe cut out Elle and just go with the other 4. Give them each a 30 minute set
and I think they could slay.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 28, 2015, 09:51:17 PM
yeah its mostly we need to support but how can we support when moat of todays rnb music just isnt good lol
Boy. Not when you go up for the most generic poppy, glow stick mess out there.
I honestly don't think you're a fan of R&B music in general outside of a couple of people.
And that's no shade. It's just a vibe I get.
gorl u dont know me .. u dont even know any music i stan for besides bey and bran .. gorl sit down somewhere
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 29, 2015, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 05:07:13 PM
Like, I'm looking at RCA's roster right now, and they could take their R&B girls:
- Jazmine
- Fantasia
- Jennifer Hudson
- Monica
- Elle Varner
Book them an arena date and give them a chance to show out a bit.
Price the tickets reasonably and I think all of them combined could do it.
i think thats tooo many .. i think maybe just 2 at a time would be better but not 5 girls
you dont see white girls doing that
To fill an arena with 15,000 seats I think it would be a safer bet to book all of them.
Maybe cut out Elle and just go with the other 4. Give them each a 30 minute set
and I think they could slay.
yeha i would cut out elle as well tbh
They wouldn't fill 15k seats tbh. Maybe, half.
yeah, a 15k audience for those ladies mentioned is PUSHING it.
7k is what i'd say. Fan' and Mon' being the ones bringing most of the people in.
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 29, 2015, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 28, 2015, 09:51:17 PM
yeah its mostly we need to support but how can we support when moat of todays rnb music just isnt good lol
Boy. Not when you go up for the most generic poppy, glow stick mess out there.
I honestly don't think you're a fan of R&B music in general outside of a couple of people.
And that's no shade. It's just a vibe I get.
gorl u dont know me .. u dont even know any music i stan for besides bey and bran .. gorl sit down somewhere
b
I said it's just a vibe I get. I could be wrong, but I get that impression from some of your posts.
Still luv ya, but yeah...
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 29, 2015, 05:55:44 PM
yeah, a 15k audience for those ladies mentioned is PUSHING it.
7k is what i'd say. Fan' and Mon' being the ones bringing most of the people in.
Even if the tickets are priced at $50 or less?
Miguel Frank and Weeknd really brought a special attention to "r&b"
I think there's still something there. I wish the women could get in on it.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 29, 2015, 05:55:44 PM
yeah, a 15k audience for those ladies mentioned is PUSHING it.
7k is what i'd say. Fan' and Mon' being the ones bringing most of the people in.
Even if the tickets are priced at $50 or less?
n
They would need a big name to headline :uhh:
I think they need to branch off and work with different writers/producers.
Create a concept album. Different visuals. I haven't seen a video from an r&b female that I liked in so long...
Come out the gate with a multi format smash and then release urban as the next singles? Sort of like what Akeys did with "Girl on fire."
But honestly some of our faves are in their mid 30's....Time is almost up to be honest.
Quote from: imaan. on December 29, 2015, 06:04:04 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 29, 2015, 05:55:44 PM
yeah, a 15k audience for those ladies mentioned is PUSHING it.
7k is what i'd say. Fan' and Mon' being the ones bringing most of the people in.
Even if the tickets are priced at $50 or less?
n
They would need a big name to headline :uhh:
You're part of the fckin problem, bitch
edit
n
Quote from: Saturn. on December 29, 2015, 06:53:13 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 29, 2015, 06:04:04 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 29, 2015, 05:55:44 PM
yeah, a 15k audience for those ladies mentioned is PUSHING it.
7k is what i'd say. Fan' and Mon' being the ones bringing most of the people in.
Even if the tickets are priced at $50 or less?
n
They would need a big name to headline :uhh:
You're part of the fckin problem, bitch
How fagg? :uhh: I'm just being realistic here.
I'm just playing
Just wanted to call you out your name TBH
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 29, 2015, 05:55:44 PM
yeah, a 15k audience for those ladies mentioned is PUSHING it.
7k is what i'd say. Fan' and Mon' being the ones bringing most of the people in.
Even if the tickets are priced at $50 or less?
Im just going off of the crowds each one pulls in now.
and honestly if the tickets were $50 or less. I can only imagine what the staging budget is going to look like. Very poor.
This just wouldn't work tbh
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on December 29, 2015, 05:07:13 PM
Like, I'm looking at RCA's roster right now, and they could take their R&B girls:
- Jazmine
- Fantasia
- Jennifer Hudson
- Monica
- Elle Varner
Book them an arena date and give them a chance to show out a bit.
Price the tickets reasonably and I think all of them combined could do it.
v
The fckin snooze tour
Quote from: imaan. on December 29, 2015, 05:12:17 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 29, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
I just realised, BET did't do their Christmas special this year.
They usually have a bunch of R&B artists on their singing Christmas Carols.
BET is a part of the agenda. Cancelling 106 and that channel is slowly becoming a strictly TV show and movie channel. When was the last time the played music videos?
BET took over MTV Jams
they show videos there but tbh no one watches videos on TV anymore
YouTube/ VEVO killed that platform
There needs to be a place for live performances though every week
ppl would maybe tune in for that
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 29, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 29, 2015, 05:12:17 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 29, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
I just realised, BET did't do their Christmas special this year.
They usually have a bunch of R&B artists on their singing Christmas Carols.
BET is a part of the agenda. Cancelling 106 and that channel is slowly becoming a strictly TV show and movie channel. When was the last time the played music videos?
BET took over MTV Jams
they show videos there but tbh no one watches videos on TV anymore
YouTube/ VEVO killed that platform
There needs to be a place for live performances though every week
ppl would maybe tune in for that
Right.There's really no platform anymore.Now even the late night shows aren't an option without Leno and Letterman, who were more receptive to R&B than their replacements.
Quote from: DFW>>>> on December 29, 2015, 04:35:48 PM
Quote from: Young on December 29, 2015, 04:32:31 PM
R&B is dying. It's a code red situation.
gorl shut up :plzstop:
http://www.news.com.au/technology/code-red-iphone-app-helps-men-survive-pmt/story-e6frfro0-1225865743948
Quote from: rosone1 on December 29, 2015, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 29, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 29, 2015, 05:12:17 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 29, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
I just realised, BET did't do their Christmas special this year.
They usually have a bunch of R&B artists on their singing Christmas Carols.
BET is a part of the agenda. Cancelling 106 and that channel is slowly becoming a strictly TV show and movie channel. When was the last time the played music videos?
BET took over MTV Jams
they show videos there but tbh no one watches videos on TV anymore
YouTube/ VEVO killed that platform
There needs to be a place for live performances though every week
ppl would maybe tune in for that
Right.There's really no platform anymore.Now even the late night shows aren't an option without Leno and Letterman, who were more receptive to R&B than their replacements.
Kimmel and Fallon always show black artists love.
Quote from: imaan. on December 29, 2015, 10:17:35 PM
Quote from: rosone1 on December 29, 2015, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 29, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
Quote from: imaan. on December 29, 2015, 05:12:17 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 29, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
I just realised, BET did't do their Christmas special this year.
They usually have a bunch of R&B artists on their singing Christmas Carols.
BET is a part of the agenda. Cancelling 106 and that channel is slowly becoming a strictly TV show and movie channel. When was the last time the played music videos?
BET took over MTV Jams
they show videos there but tbh no one watches videos on TV anymore
YouTube/ VEVO killed that platform
There needs to be a place for live performances though every week
ppl would maybe tune in for that
Right.There's really no platform anymore.Now even the late night shows aren't an option without Leno and Letterman, who were more receptive to R&B than their replacements.
Kimmel and Fallon always show black artists love.
IDK about ALWAYS
I'm mad Jazmine performed on Fallon and it was never uploaded
but he definitely has the latest Ariana skits and Adele performances right away
Jazmine was on Fallon? When wtf
Quote from: Saturn. on December 29, 2015, 11:08:49 PM
Jazmine was on Fallon? When wtf
back in like October
it says 11weeks ago on her Instagram
😑😑😑😑
Pretty sure that the episode where she was singing in the back with The Roots
I remember watching that on TV
Monica is done. Just throwing that out there.
[instagram]https://instagram.com/p/_5toIJS2Cv/embed[/instagram]
Ohhpppp
Do people even go on talk shows anymore?
Quote from: inluvwitbran on December 30, 2015, 12:33:30 AM
[instagram]https://instagram.com/p/_5toIJS2Cv/embed[/instagram]
This is great news!