Do you agree?
https://instagram.com/p/BbgAEj5Bb4m/
Steph, short ageless self. :oof:
I agree and I think it's actually gotten worse or maybe we're more observant of the fuckery as we get older?
Very true, Lalah Hathaway put out an amazing album too, they just don?t get the shine as they should because it?s not commercial enough
Quad is kinda snatching me in.
Can she get a solo show. I like her
I remember someone making the point that during the 90s', non black people couldn't do what we do vocally. However, that generation of kids born in the 90s' learned and grew up listening to what we do. As soon as non black people can do what we do, it makes us obsolete, because the package we come in ( african phenotype ) is not agreeable to white supremacy.
Hence, the vocal and music stylings of Adele, JT, Robin Thicke, Bieber, Ariana, Jessie J, Almost every white singer from the UK.
preach queen
This is so true I remembered a post was put out in 2010 that said they we're gonna push the white R&B artists to the forefront to take over the genre and radio. And now they have done exactly that. I'm starting to see their trying to make their way into rap. That's gonna be harder to infiltrate though. I give about another 20 years before their able to do that.
So true
But who takes the blame? Is it the record labels and marketing execs or the consumers that are not supporting black artists.
QuoteStephanie Mills speaks
n
She was 100% right though.
Quote from: BigDawg on November 16, 2017, 11:00:32 AM
But who takes the blame? Is it the record labels and marketing execs or the consumers that are not supporting black artists.
It?s marketing and business
Politics etc
Can?t blame the public . They buy and support what they see most of on tv
Black R&B acts just don?t get the same support or budget they use to have
I talked about this on my show a lot but the gorls got tired of it. But it is very very true. My black cousins grow up going to Ariana Grande concerts thinking that shit is R&B singing.
A few generations and R&B will be like Rock & Roll and Jazz, a genre that used to black in the day, but is basically white now.
Does Sister Circle have a YouTube mess?
Quote from: Myron on November 16, 2017, 09:40:21 AM
I remember someone making the point that during the 90s', non black people couldn't do what we do vocally. However, that generation of kids born in the 90s' learned and grew up listening to what we do. As soon as non black people can do what we do, it makes us obsolete, because the package we come in ( african phenotype ) is not agreeable to white supremacy.
Hence, the vocal and music stylings of Adele, JT, Robin Thicke, Bieber, Ariana, Jessie J, Almost every white singer from the UK.
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 11:02:41 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on November 16, 2017, 11:00:32 AM
But who takes the blame? Is it the record labels and marketing execs or the consumers that are not supporting black artists.
It?s marketing and business
Politics etc
Can?t blame the public . They buy and support what they see most of on tv
Black R&B acts just don?t get the same support or budget they use to have
That's true. Many people don't even know these artists are coming out with new music because the marketing is lacking.
Quote from: Yah. on November 16, 2017, 11:10:07 AM
Quote from: Myron on November 16, 2017, 09:40:21 AM
I remember someone making the point that during the 90s', non black people couldn't do what we do vocally. However, that generation of kids born in the 90s' learned and grew up listening to what we do. As soon as non black people can do what we do, it makes us obsolete, because the package we come in ( african phenotype ) is not agreeable to white supremacy.
Hence, the vocal and music stylings of Adele, JT, Robin Thicke, Bieber, Ariana, Jessie J, Almost every white singer from the UK.
s
This girl ALMOST had a point, then started talking bout Kenny Latimore
:hmph:
Girl black ppl ain?t buy Kenny shit either, hush :dead:
RnB has progressed into trap soul, in the same vein that funk, soul, and blues digivolved into RnB.
It was bound to happen and it?s happening across ALL forms of artistry. Everyone wants to express themselves and humans find a way to do that.
1/10 million can sing like Whitney Houston
1/1 million can give what Beyonce gives
1/2 people can go into a studio and give what the average rapper/RnB artist does now with powered up engineers and producers :dead:
Just like Sports had steroids and supplements to even the playing field
Just like Art had photoshop to even the playing field
Just like photography was sabotaged by Apple, now everybody with an iPhone and depth effect is ?talented?
It?s just a sign of the times. It?s only a splash of the racial imbalance she?s referring to.
It?s simple demographics. Now white girl can go into a studio and give a Mariah book, and yea, she?s white, there are more white ppl in America, it?s not rocket science :dead:
Blacks just need to stay focused and stop pointing the finger as if something is wrong. Continue to be innovative! Hell we wouldn?t have this constant complaining about them stealing our shit if went and got the keys to our own damns country.
But for now the general consensus is that Blacks are happy being ?American?
When somebody is fed up it?ll show. Blacks talk talk talk, but they ain?t really fed up with SHIT :dead:
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 11:26:14 AM
s
This girl ALMOST had a point, then started talking bout Kenny Latimore
:hmph:
Girl black ppl ain?t buy Kenny shit either, hush :dead:
RnB has progressed into trap soul, in the same vein that funk, soul, and blues digivolved into RnB.
It was bound to happen and it?s happening across ALL forms of artistry. Everyone wants to express themselves and humans find a way to do that.
1/10 million can sing like Whitney Houston
1/1 million can give what Beyonce gives
1/2 people can go into a studio and give what the average rapper/RnB artist does now with powered up engineers and producers :dead:
Just like Sports had steroids and supplements to even the playing field
Just like Art had photoshop to even the playing field
Just like photography was sabotaged by Apple, now everybody with an iPhone and depth effect is ?talented?
It?s just a sign of the times. It?s only a splash of the racial imbalance she?s referring to.
It?s simple demographics. Now white girl can go into a studio and give a Mariah book, and yea, she?s white, there are more white ppl in America, it?s not rocket science :dead:
Blacks just need to stay focused and stop pointing the finger as if something is wrong. Continue to be innovative! Hell we wouldn?t have this constant complaining about them stealing our shit if went and got the keys to our own damns country.
But for now the general consensus is that Blacks are happy being ?American?
When somebody is fed up it?ll show. Blacks talk talk talk, but they ain?t really fed up with SHIT :dead:
SDLKJHFJJJJJJJJFJFJFJFJFJFJFJFJFJFF but !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Black people are always looking for something to bitch about tbh
Like white R&B artists really be SLAYING!
Sorry but JT, Adele, Sam smith etc are POP to me. I don't think of R&B immediately :udontlookok:
I think of like joss stone or somebody
n
i agree
wow
sssssssssss
Right! These artists are adding their own twang to it, which is pop.
they Be so up n arms about the state of RnB.
Men too, like Tank :dead:
Nigga how times are you gonna MAKE us listen to you croon about this slut, or going to the club, or how sorry you are?
And yawl ass want us to PAY coins to hear you do the same shit going into another decade?! ... That?s extremely fckn inconsiderate
Give Steph Mill an alberm with budget right now and the shit is gonna sound like an 90?s RnB record :dead:
Girl No THANKS! There?s plenty of bars you can make coin at performing locally.
The industry muffled Kenny lattimore.
Quote from: Jonovan on November 16, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
The industry muffled Kenny lattimore.
Wait what happened
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 16, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
Black people are always looking for something to bitch about tbh
Like white R&B artists really be SLAYING!
Sorry but JT, Adele, Sam smith etc are POP to me. I don't think of R&B immediately :udontlookok:
I think of like joss stone or somebody
n
they're definitely stealing our music and making a profit.
and yeah Kenny was a bad example. He wasn't selling even when R&B was poppin
Quote from: BigDawg on November 16, 2017, 05:45:29 AM
Do you agree?
https://instagram.com/p/BbgAEj5Bb4m/
Point out the lie tho
I just happened to be SKIMMING on Tidal and came across Syleena?s album
The first track BOOKED me instantly
This surpremes sound :plzstop:
It?s crazy how we get no support :dead: ? So much black talent has been tossed aside
Quote from: MARS. on November 16, 2017, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 16, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
Black people are always looking for something to bitch about tbh
Like white R&B artists really be SLAYING!
Sorry but JT, Adele, Sam smith etc are POP to me. I don't think of R&B immediately :udontlookok:
I think of like joss stone or somebody
n
they're definitely stealing our music and making a profit.
exactly
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 02:44:25 PM
Quote from: MARS. on November 16, 2017, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 16, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
Black people are always looking for something to bitch about tbh
Like white R&B artists really be SLAYING!
Sorry but JT, Adele, Sam smith etc are POP to me. I don't think of R&B immediately :udontlookok:
I think of like joss stone or somebody
n
they're definitely stealing our music and making a profit.
exactly
Will even steal your black rappers for a quick hit
Quote from: MARS. on November 16, 2017, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 16, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
Black people are always looking for something to bitch about tbh
Like white R&B artists really be SLAYING!
Sorry but JT, Adele, Sam smith etc are POP to me. I don't think of R&B immediately :udontlookok:
I think of like joss stone or somebody
n
they're definitely stealing our music and making a profit.
n
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 02:45:16 PM
Will even steal your black rappers for a quick hit
this I agree with
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on November 16, 2017, 05:45:29 AM
Do you agree?
https://instagram.com/p/BbgAEj5Bb4m/
Point out the lie tho
I just happened to be SKIMMING on Tidal and came across Syleena?s album
The first track BOOKED me instantly
This surpremes sound :plzstop:
It?s crazy how we get no support :dead: ? So much black talent has been tossed aside
Which is why i don?t understand some of the remarks.
It?s not complaining, it?s the damn truth. A lot of these R&B albums are lucky to see 300k. We don?t have many televised platforms to support them. No mainstream award show properly acknowledges the genre and even urban mainstream barely plays it outside of Bey, Rih and at this point someone like SZA.
Most R&B get placed on Urban AC which is a very small audience and looked over
some of these girls have been flopping for like... 2 decades now.. :everythingok:
But whites!
sure.... They BITE a bit but... ummm. :calmdownsis:
You're not even Black so your opinioniata is void :dead:
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 02:44:25 PM
Quote from: MARS. on November 16, 2017, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 16, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
Black people are always looking for something to bitch about tbh
Like white R&B artists really be SLAYING!
Sorry but JT, Adele, Sam smith etc are POP to me. I don't think of R&B immediately :udontlookok:
I think of like joss stone or somebody
n
they're definitely stealing our music and making a profit.
exactly
exactly what? HUH?!
:ATLcameo:
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 16, 2017, 02:45:30 PM
Quote from: MARS. on November 16, 2017, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 16, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
Black people are always looking for something to bitch about tbh
Like white R&B artists really be SLAYING!
Sorry but JT, Adele, Sam smith etc are POP to me. I don't think of R&B immediately :udontlookok:
I think of like joss stone or somebody
n
they're definitely stealing our music and making a profit.
n
s
No lies
Hip Hop & R&B will eventually run the same course as Rock & Roll. Sad but inevitable
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on November 16, 2017, 03:00:38 PM
You're not even Black so your opinioniata is void :dead:
:kii:
She ain't lying!
That "Strip That Down" song featuring Quavo came on the radio this morning. And I couldn't believe how big that song was on Pop radio.
Chris Brown and others have been making that same song for the last 10 years.
And I can't wait to watch Justin's presumable R&B single be exalted as the best song of the decade.
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
sssssssssss
Right! These artists are adding their own twang to it, which is pop.
they Be so up n arms about the state of RnB.
Men too, like Tank :dead:
Nigga how times are you gonna MAKE us listen to you croon about this slut, or going to the club, or how sorry you are?
And yawl ass want us to PAY coins to hear you do the same shit going into another decade?! ... That?s extremely fckn inconsiderate
Give Steph Mill an alberm with budget right now and the shit is gonna sound like an 90?s RnB record :dead:
Girl No THANKS! There?s plenty of bars you can make coin at performing locally.
Your delusional as fuck if you think nothing is happening behind the scenes to uplift and push certain artist over the others.
Quote from: Freeruu on November 16, 2017, 03:19:36 PM
No lies
Hip Hop & R&B will eventually run the same course as Rock & Roll. Sad but inevitable
The way we just ROLL over as these things come in and take everything from us. Pathetic
:bvy:
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
sssssssssss
Right! These artists are adding their own twang to it, which is pop.
they Be so up n arms about the state of RnB.
Men too, like Tank :dead:
Nigga how times are you gonna MAKE us listen to you croon about this slut, or going to the club, or how sorry you are?
And yawl ass want us to PAY coins to hear you do the same shit going into another decade?! ... That?s extremely fckn inconsiderate
Give Steph Mill an alberm with budget right now and the shit is gonna sound like an 90?s RnB record :dead:
Girl No THANKS! There?s plenty of bars you can make coin at performing locally.
Bentley, wyd?
This post is absolutely horrible.
Quote from: Freeruu on November 16, 2017, 03:19:36 PM
No lies
Hip Hop & R&B will eventually run the same course as Rock & Roll. Sad but inevitable
this is probably true
But the next wave will probably be started by blacks too tbh
Quote from: Nine on November 16, 2017, 11:01:02 AM
QuoteStephanie Mills speaks
n
she?s highly respected. let?s not get crazy
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on November 16, 2017, 03:00:38 PM
You're not even Black so your opinioniata is void :dead:
im fuckin crying
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
She ain't lying!
That "Strip That Down" song featuring Quavo came on the radio this morning. And I couldn't believe how big that song was on Pop radio.
Chris Brown and others have been making that same song for the last 10 years.
And I can't wait to watch Justin's presumable R&B single be exalted as the best song of the decade.
:kii:
The way ?Suit and Tie? was praised for eternity. That shit Is dry as FUCK
Meh.
They were blatantly doing this in fifties and sixties when they were slapping white people on album covers for black groups. Everything is cyclical and I'm sure R&B will eventually regain its commercial viability.
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
She ain't lying!
That "Strip That Down" song featuring Quavo came on the radio this morning. And I couldn't believe how big that song was on Pop radio.
Chris Brown and others have been making that same song for the last 10 years.
And I can't wait to watch Justin's presumable R&B single be exalted as the best song of the decade.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Meh.
They were blatantly doing this in fifties and sixties when they were slapping white people on album covers for black groups. Everything is cyclical and I'm sure R&B will eventually regain its commercial viability.
I think it?s coming back too
Everything happens in cycles tbh
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 16, 2017, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Freeruu on November 16, 2017, 03:19:36 PM
No lies
Hip Hop & R&B will eventually run the same course as Rock & Roll. Sad but inevitable
this is probably true
But the next wave will probably be started by blacks too tbh
I think the next wave will be black folks
But trap beats with pop/R&B influence
Everyone wants some KNOCK now
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Meh.
They were blatantly doing this in fifties and sixties when they were slapping white people on album covers for black groups. Everything is cyclical and I'm sure R&B will eventually regain its commercial viability.
I think it?s coming back too
Everything happens in cycles tbh
June's Diary ain't gonna be the fuck apart of it tho
Just wanted to remind you xoxo
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 03:50:17 PM
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Meh.
They were blatantly doing this in fifties and sixties when they were slapping white people on album covers for black groups. Everything is cyclical and I'm sure R&B will eventually regain its commercial viability.
I think it?s coming back too
Everything happens in cycles tbh
June's Diary ain't gonna be the fuck apart of it tho
Just wanted to remind you xoxo
:guys:
Or Monica! hehe!
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 03:50:17 PM
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Meh.
They were blatantly doing this in fifties and sixties when they were slapping white people on album covers for black groups. Everything is cyclical and I'm sure R&B will eventually regain its commercial viability.
I think it?s coming back too
Everything happens in cycles tbh
June's Diary ain't gonna be the fuck apart of it tho
Just wanted to remind you xoxo
Sssdddf
Faggot they?ll be TRAILBLAZING it
Get into it
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 03:50:17 PM
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Meh.
They were blatantly doing this in fifties and sixties when they were slapping white people on album covers for black groups. Everything is cyclical and I'm sure R&B will eventually regain its commercial viability.
I think it?s coming back too
Everything happens in cycles tbh
June's Diary ain't gonna be the fuck apart of it tho
Just wanted to remind you xoxo
:guys:
Or Monica! hehe!
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Gone with this!
UGH!
Why do we make everything negative a black issue? Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well. Including their white fans. That's just music period. It's competitive. It's not a race thing.
Same thing Bentley is in here doing. "Why is Tank singing about sex?"
Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.
I hate when ya'll do this.
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
We definitely have to Unite
We don?t support our own. Just my opinion.
We could definitely do better
BUT; R&B just doesn?t get the exposure, budget nor push that other genres get
And that?s just the truth
:blush:But in the 90s they were merging Pop and R&B sounds a lot more
And a lot of R&B has been sounding dry tbh
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Gone with this!
UGH!
Why do we make everything negative a black issue? Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well. Including their white fans. That's just music period. It's competitive. It's not a race thing.
Same thing Bentley is in here doing. "Why is Tank singing about sex?"
Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.
I hate when ya'll do this.
Did you watch the video?
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Gone with this!
UGH!
Why do we make everything negative a black issue? Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well. Including their white fans. That's just music period. It's competitive. It's not a race thing.
Same thing Bentley is in here doing. "Why is Tank singing about sex?"
Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.
I hate when ya'll do this.
Did you watch the video?
YEAH. I did.
And my point still stands. We're always pointing the finger at each other like we are somehow responsible for an industry literally stacked against black music.
Do some research on the label merges that happened at the turn of the last decade and how most Urban divisions were cut with Urban staffs completely fired. Leaving R&B artists on labels with employees who probably had never even heard of them.
Mixed with iHeart and Clear Channel doing business deals that forced many Urban stations into Rhythmic stations or to close altogether. In addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.
Black people have been supporting and "doing our part" for years. That's why Demi Lovato can sell only 20k more than Tamar but still EAT. Because she has an industry literally backing her 100%.
So, YEAH.
You're wrong about that.
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
sssssssssss
Right! These artists are adding their own twang to it, which is pop.
they Be so up n arms about the state of RnB.
Men too, like Tank :dead:
Nigga how times are you gonna MAKE us listen to you croon about this slut, or going to the club, or how sorry you are?
And yawl ass want us to PAY coins to hear you do the same shit going into another decade?! ... That?s extremely fckn inconsiderate
Give Steph Mill an alberm with budget right now and the shit is gonna sound like an 90?s RnB record :dead:
Girl No THANKS! There?s plenty of bars you can make coin at performing locally.
Bentley, wyd?
This post is absolutely horrible.
what more do you expect from a idiot
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Gone with this!
UGH!
Why do we make everything negative a black issue? Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well. Including their white fans. That's just music period. It's competitive. It's not a race thing.
Same thing Bentley is in here doing. "Why is Tank singing about sex?"
Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.
I hate when ya'll do this.
Did you watch the video?
YEAH. I did.
And my point still stands. We're always pointing the finger at each other like we are somehow responsible for an industry literally stacked against black music.
Do some research on the label merges that happened at the turn of the last decade and how most Urban divisions were cut with Urban staffs completely fired. Leaving R&B artists on labels with employees who probably had never even heard of them.
Mixed with iHeart and Clear Channel doing business deals that forced many Urban stations into Rhythmic stations or to close altogether. In addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.
Black people have been supporting and "doing our part" for years. That's why Demi Lovato can sell only 20k more than Tamar but still EAT. Because she has an industry literally backing her 100%.
So, YEAH.
You're wrong about that.
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Quote from: Baph al Mana. on November 16, 2017, 02:52:18 PM
some of these girls have been flopping for like... 2 decades now.. :everythingok:
But whites!
sure.... They BITE a bit but... ummm. :calmdownsis:
ssssssss
right! we're not saying it doesn't happen. but ... this woe is me crap is old.
"oh they want it, but don't want it from US"gorl yes! you damn right, I don't want an alberm from you and Kenny :dead:
and really the mess about Adele was a stretch too but :dead:
and .... quiet as it's kept... Brndn and Scott ain't never bought no Kenny Lat' or Steph'Mill alber
or so I've HEARD ... ki
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I don?t like Kenny Lattimore outside of ?For You? so of course not. But that doesn?t negate the fact that you are in fact and indeed a muff-fuckin idiot
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 04:55:49 PM
I don?t like Kenny Lattimore
well would ya looky here ... somebody call up Steph' n explain this mess
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dfgshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 04:55:49 PM
I don?t like Kenny Lattimore
well would ya looky here ... somebody call up Steph' n explain this mess
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dasssskljnckla
You still don?t have a point
Adele nor Justin get nominated for R&B awards
nor does their music get labeled as such
so what exactly is miss ?when I think of home..? talking about?
I?m so sick of this color bullshit
like, who cares? enjoy the music or fuckin push!
i take back any contrary bs I said in this thread.
White people are disgusting, they steal and need to be eradicated
bsvsvvsvsvsvsvsv s s a sbbsbs
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:05:14 PM
Adele nor Justin get nominated for R&B awards
nor does their music get labeled as such
so what exactly is miss ?when I think of home..? talking about?
I?m so sick of this color bullshit
like, who cares? enjoy the music or fuckin push!
justin most definitely is labeled as an R&B act and even has a Grammy in the field
Plz
The ?woe is me? rhetoric is so TIRED.
and I really just don?t care for it
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 16, 2017, 05:08:05 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:05:14 PM
Adele nor Justin get nominated for R&B awards
nor does their music get labeled as such
so what exactly is miss ?when I think of home..? talking about?
I?m so sick of this color bullshit
like, who cares? enjoy the music or fuckin push!
justin most definitely is labeled as an R&B act and even has a Grammy in the field
Plz
How many YEARS ago was that, actually?
and when was the last time he?s been nominated or won an R&B catergory?
even if it were the case, who gives a fuck?
if he wants to sing or record an R&B album, then he?s gonna do it
and he has every right to
no one owns any musical genre.
music is fuckin music and it shouldn?t matter what color the persons skin is who?s singing it
I feel sorry for you ?all I see is color? hoes
or must be a sad life to live
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 03:59:04 PM
:blush:But in the 90s they were merging Pop and R&B sounds a lot more
And a lot of R&B has been sounding dry tbh
that hasn?t changed IMO. R&B is as experimental as ever if you find the right artists
Maybe the older girls aren?t
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on November 16, 2017, 05:06:20 PM
i take back any contrary bs I said in this thread.
White people are disgusting, they steal and need to be eradicated
s
Yea I suddenly had a change of heart too
Thieving white devils is what they are
Gag! Speak!
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 05:18:30 PM
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on November 16, 2017, 05:06:20 PM
i take back any contrary bs I said in this thread.
White people are disgusting, they steal and need to be eradicated
s
Yea I suddenly had a change of heart too
Thieving white devils is what they are
I love that I have that power of you gorls
it brings me joy.
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 04:59:23 PM
You still don?t have a point
excuse you?!
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Quote from: Yah. on November 16, 2017, 11:10:07 AM
Quote from: Myron on November 16, 2017, 09:40:21 AM
I remember someone making the point that during the 90s', non black people couldn't do what we do vocally. However, that generation of kids born in the 90s' learned and grew up listening to what we do. As soon as non black people can do what we do, it makes us obsolete, because the package we come in ( african phenotype ) is not agreeable to white supremacy.
Hence, the vocal and music stylings of Adele, JT, Robin Thicke, Bieber, Ariana, Jessie J, Almost every white singer from the UK.
Bentley was really in here trying to give power point! facts!
and is looking the absolute fool. Colonized self. :kii:
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Bentley was really in here trying to give power point! facts!
and is looking the absolute fool. Colonized self. :kii:
:kii:
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Gone with this!
UGH!
Why do we make everything negative a black issue? Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well. Including their white fans. That's just music period. It's competitive. It's not a race thing.
Same thing Bentley is in here doing. "Why is Tank singing about sex?"
Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.
I hate when ya'll do this.
Did you watch the video?
YEAH. I did.
And my point still stands. We're always pointing the finger at each other like we are somehow responsible for an industry literally stacked against black music.
Do some research on the label merges that happened at the turn of the last decade and how most Urban divisions were cut with Urban staffs completely fired. Leaving R&B artists on labels with employees who probably had never even heard of them.
Mixed with iHeart and Clear Channel doing business deals that forced many Urban stations into Rhythmic stations or to close altogether. In addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.
Black people have been supporting and "doing our part" for years. That's why Demi Lovato can sell only 20k more than Tamar but still EAT. Because she has an industry literally backing her 100%.
So, YEAH.
You're wrong about that.
Woo!
Post of the year
This is the reason why Mon , and Bran etc were struggling
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:10:15 PM
The ?woe is me? rhetoric is so TIRED.
and I really just don?t care for it
no surprise.
What?s being said is true. Ain?t no woe is me
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 05:29:03 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:10:15 PM
The ?woe is me? rhetoric is so TIRED.
and I really just don?t care for it
no surprise.
What?s being said is true. Ain?t no woe is me
Its very much so.
she?s acting like the people she named singlehandedly took R&B away from the blacks
and it?s just not true
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 05:29:03 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:10:15 PM
The ?woe is me? rhetoric is so TIRED.
and I really just don?t care for it
no surprise.
What?s being said is true. Ain?t no woe is me
Its very much so.
she?s acting like the people she named singlehandedly took R&B away from the blacks
and it?s just not true
that is FAR from what she said :kii:
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Bentley was really in here trying to give power point! facts!
and is looking the absolute fool. Colonized self. :kii:
:kii:
s
Angry black selves
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/969157b8af83066648ccb57aac61bd33/tenor.gif?itemid=5205391)
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 05:34:44 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 05:29:03 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:10:15 PM
The ?woe is me? rhetoric is so TIRED.
and I really just don?t care for it
no surprise.
What?s being said is true. Ain?t no woe is me
Its very much so.
she?s acting like the people she named singlehandedly took R&B away from the blacks
and it?s just not true
that is FAR from what she said :kii:
its exactly what she said
by saying the girls want R&B but not from us, aka the blacks
then it dipped into cultural appropriation and I had to exit the video
I?m over all this CRYING!
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
I feel sorry for you ?all I see is color? hoes
or must be a sad life to live
And I feel sorry for "I don't see color" hoes. Stay pressed, dumb and colonized, ugly.
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Gone with this!
UGH!
Why do we make everything negative a black issue? Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well. Including their white fans. That's just music period. It's competitive. It's not a race thing.
Same thing Bentley is in here doing. "Why is Tank singing about sex?"
Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.
I hate when ya'll do this.
Did you watch the video?
YEAH. I did.
And my point still stands. We're always pointing the finger at each other like we are somehow responsible for an industry literally stacked against black music.
Do some research on the label merges that happened at the turn of the last decade and how most Urban divisions were cut with Urban staffs completely fired. Leaving R&B artists on labels with employees who probably had never even heard of them.
Mixed with iHeart and Clear Channel doing business deals that forced many Urban stations into Rhythmic stations or to close altogether. In addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.
Black people have been supporting and "doing our part" for years. That's why Demi Lovato can sell only 20k more than Tamar but still EAT. Because she has an industry literally backing her 100%.
So, YEAH.
You're wrong about that.
Woo!
Post of the year
This is the reason why Mon , and Bran etc were struggling
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
I feel sorry for you ?all I see is color? hoes
or must be a sad life to live
And I feel sorry for "I don't see color" hoes. Stay pressed, dumb and colonized, ugly.
Your opinion of me does not matter.
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Bentley was really in here trying to give power point! facts!
and is looking the absolute fool. Colonized self. :kii:
:kii:
s
Angry black selves
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/969157b8af83066648ccb57aac61bd33/tenor.gif?itemid=5205391)
dnvvdvssvvd
yes! we are black and we are the fuck angry. get into it.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/969157b8af83066648ccb57aac61bd33/tenor.gif?itemid=5205391)
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 05:34:44 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 05:29:03 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:10:15 PM
The ?woe is me? rhetoric is so TIRED.
and I really just don?t care for it
no surprise.
What?s being said is true. Ain?t no woe is me
Its very much so.
she?s acting like the people she named singlehandedly took R&B away from the blacks
and it?s just not true
that is FAR from what she said :kii:
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Gone with this!
UGH!
Why do we make everything negative a black issue? Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well. Including their white fans. That's just music period. It's competitive. It's not a race thing.
Same thing Bentley is in here doing. "Why is Tank singing about sex?"
Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.
I hate when ya'll do this.
Did you watch the video?
YEAH. I did.
And my point still stands. We're always pointing the finger at each other like we are somehow responsible for an industry literally stacked against black music.
Do some research on the label merges that happened at the turn of the last decade and how most Urban divisions were cut with Urban staffs completely fired. Leaving R&B artists on labels with employees who probably had never even heard of them.
Mixed with iHeart and Clear Channel doing business deals that forced many Urban stations into Rhythmic stations or to close altogether. In addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.
Black people have been supporting and "doing our part" for years. That's why Demi Lovato can sell only 20k more than Tamar but still EAT. Because she has an industry literally backing her 100%.
So, YEAH.
You're wrong about that.
Woo!
Post of the year
This is the reason why Mon , and Bran etc were struggling
Period
Kudos to sam and them ! They?re great!
But black acts don?t get the same privileges in music
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
I feel sorry for you ?all I see is color? hoes
or must be a sad life to live
And I feel sorry for "I don't see color" hoes. Stay pressed, dumb and colonized, ugly.
Your opinion of me does not matter.
It does cause you choose to maintain ignorant and I ain't never liked an Uncle Tom ass nigga.
But
Christina! JT! Katy! Woo!PLEA'
And Justin not being in an R&B categories doesn't take away the fact that he appropriates R&B music and the Recording Academy just so happens to place him in the Pop/Mainstream categories because he is a Popular act. :dead:
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
I feel sorry for you ?all I see is color? hoes
or must be a sad life to live
And I feel sorry for "I don't see color" hoes. Stay pressed, dumb and colonized, ugly.
Your opinion of me does not matter.
It does cause you choose to maintain ignorant and I ain't never liked an Uncle Tom ass nigga.
But Christina! JT! Katy! Woo!
PLEA'
It absolutely doesn?t
but I like the fact that you think it does
its cute.
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Bentley was really in here trying to give power point! facts!
and is looking the absolute fool. Colonized self. :kii:
:kii:
s
Angry black selves
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/969157b8af83066648ccb57aac61bd33/tenor.gif?itemid=5205391)
LKSDLSDJDJ
And this Baph' nigga always in a motherfucking thread stating his opinion and ain't even tf black! Like nigga...how? :uhh:
Take yo' color struck, sexist ass on somewhere!
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
And Justin not being in an R&B categories doesn't take away the fact that he appropriates R&B music and the Recording Academy just so happens to place him in the Pop/Mainstream categories because he is a Popular act. :dead:
Do you know his life?
he grew up on R&B music and can sing it, record it and perform is as he pleases
and there?s nothing you can say to stop it from happening
but cry about it.
Shouldn't you be on insta' making a dance vid' that NO ONE is going to view?
instead of addressing me? :everythingok:
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
And Justin not being in an R&B categories doesn't take away the fact that he appropriates R&B music and the Recording Academy just so happens to place him in the Pop/Mainstream categories because he is a Popular act. :dead:
Do you know his life?
he grew up on R&B music and can sing it, record it and perform is as he pleases
and there?s nothing you can say to stop it from happening
but cry about it.
He's still an appropriator. I wanna see him give credit where it tf DUE, nigga!
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:53:55 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
And Justin not being in an R&B categories doesn't take away the fact that he appropriates R&B music and the Recording Academy just so happens to place him in the Pop/Mainstream categories because he is a Popular act. :dead:
Do you know his life?
he grew up on R&B music and can sing it, record it and perform is as he pleases
and there?s nothing you can say to stop it from happening
but cry about it.
He's still an appropriator. I wanna see him give credit where it tf DUE, nigga!
He?s credited black artists as his inspirations MANY times, nigga!
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:53:55 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
And Justin not being in an R&B categories doesn't take away the fact that he appropriates R&B music and the Recording Academy just so happens to place him in the Pop/Mainstream categories because he is a Popular act. :dead:
Do you know his life?
he grew up on R&B music and can sing it, record it and perform is as he pleases
and there?s nothing you can say to stop it from happening
but cry about it.
He's still an appropriator. I wanna see him give credit where it tf DUE, nigga!
s
Yawl sound so damn bitter in here :dead:
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on November 16, 2017, 05:52:50 PM
Shouldn't you be on insta' making a dance vid' that NO ONE is going to view?
instead of addressing me? :everythingok:
Shouldn't you be somewhere reading a book? Kii.
The kii is those videos no one watches. That is the kii. :calmdownsis:
bitch, I'm black and angry. Not bitter. Y'all should be tf angry too. It presses me that you're not actually.
And nigga, I ain't pressed about how many Insta views I have on a video. I have my REAL life I'm more so concerned with. The kii actually is how you concern yourself with it. Tip ya waitress.
Quoten addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.
What the fuck :uhh: this is a mess
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:55:20 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:53:55 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
And Justin not being in an R&B categories doesn't take away the fact that he appropriates R&B music and the Recording Academy just so happens to place him in the Pop/Mainstream categories because he is a Popular act. :dead:
Do you know his life?
he grew up on R&B music and can sing it, record it and perform is as he pleases
and there?s nothing you can say to stop it from happening
but cry about it.
He's still an appropriator. I wanna see him give credit where it tf DUE, nigga!
He?s credited black artists as his inspirations MANY times, nigga!
It ain't enough to verbally say it. We want reparations, nigga.
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:55:20 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:53:55 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
And Justin not being in an R&B categories doesn't take away the fact that he appropriates R&B music and the Recording Academy just so happens to place him in the Pop/Mainstream categories because he is a Popular act. :dead:
Do you know his life?
he grew up on R&B music and can sing it, record it and perform is as he pleases
and there?s nothing you can say to stop it from happening
but cry about it.
He's still an appropriator. I wanna see him give credit where it tf DUE, nigga!
He?s credited black artists as his inspirations MANY times, nigga!
It ain't enough to verbally say it. We want reparations, nigga.
BITCH! Lemme tell..you know what
I?m over this convo
bye bitch!
LMAO!
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on November 16, 2017, 05:45:29 AM
Do you agree?
https://instagram.com/p/BbgAEj5Bb4m/
Point out the lie tho
I just happened to be SKIMMING on Tidal and came across Syleena?s album
The first track BOOKED me instantly
This surpremes sound :plzstop:
It?s crazy how we get no support :dead: ? So much black talent has been tossed aside
!!!
This is honestly why I can't allow myself to go up for Sam Smith, Adele, etc. It's not their fault, but they get hailed as if they are doing something new or innovative.
They're basically making soul music and profiting while Black artists can't get any support.
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:59:18 PM
And nigga, I ain't pressed about how many Insta views I have on a video. I have my REAL life I'm more so concerned with. The kii actually is how you concern yourself with it. Tip ya waitress.
probably my first time quoting you. EVER.
and my last. I pay you and your posts. Though you've tried to address me a few other times. You're a lame nigga.
Honestly the only time I've noticed your font was that time YOU posted your insta'.
and yea. No one wants to watch you flail around on the 'gram :scrumptious:
sddd i was bout to say y?all follow each other on insta? Was gonna kick Baph?s Ass
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
She ain't lying!
That "Strip That Down" song featuring Quavo came on the radio this morning. And I couldn't believe how big that song was on Pop radio.
Chris Brown and others have been making that same song for the last 10 years.
And I can't wait to watch Justin's presumable R&B single be exalted as the best song of the decade.
That song is the most basic mess I've heard outside of Ed Sheeran's "Shape of You". Terrible songs, but still perched at the top of the charts with tons of radio support.
White people are praised for being mediocre, while someone like Beyonce is considered overrated.
Omffff Cody i had to wrap some of that post in quotes and tweet it
:loose2when:
U slayed
Quote from: M??D?? on November 16, 2017, 06:07:24 PM
White people are praised for being mediocre, while someone like Beyonce is considered overrated.
Yes King
Quote from: M??D?? on November 16, 2017, 06:07:24 PM
White people are praised for being mediocre, while someone like Beyonce is considered overrated.
!!!!
Some members here are products of this very thought.
Yeah, in certain ways she's right. That's why these labels don't spend much money on black artists who do R&B music because they feel it doesn't take a large investment to reach black audiences.
Non-blacks can make the same kind of music but since it's being aimed at a different, most likely larger audience, tptb will push more.
There's several things that could further affect that like age, gender, etc...
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
I feel sorry for you ?all I see is color? hoes
or must be a sad life to live
And I feel sorry for "I don't see color" hoes. Stay pressed, dumb and colonized, ugly.
Your opinion of me does not matter.
It does cause you choose to maintain ignorant and I ain't never liked an Uncle Tom ass nigga.
But Christina! JT! Katy! Woo!
PLEA'
and i like Mel but he is ridiculous when it comes to this discussion
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 05:55:31 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:53:55 PM
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
And Justin not being in an R&B categories doesn't take away the fact that he appropriates R&B music and the Recording Academy just so happens to place him in the Pop/Mainstream categories because he is a Popular act. :dead:
Do you know his life?
he grew up on R&B music and can sing it, record it and perform is as he pleases
and there?s nothing you can say to stop it from happening
but cry about it.
He's still an appropriator. I wanna see him give credit where it tf DUE, nigga!
s
Yawl sound so damn bitter in here :dead:
and you sound stupid in here
Quote from: 1RIG on November 16, 2017, 06:06:11 PM
sddd i was bout to say y?all follow each other on insta? Was gonna kick Baph?s Ass
sdddfffvv god NO! And what would be the issue beloved?
The white man's whores were dragged in here
Let me clarify what some ppl are missing due to uproar and anger :dead:
We already know the logistics of what Stephanie said :dead:
But here?s what angry blacks don?t realize
We don?t OWN the music industry
Just like we don?t OWN the NBA or NFL
But we TAKE what is dished out until it hits too close to home.
Just like those NFL players still played for massa after he called them inmates :dead:
Yawl in here pissed and up and arms, but I bet that Apple ID bill is paid on time EVERY month :dead:
she mentioned Adele, and for yawl to sit here and come down on ppl like JT and Adele, who broke her damn Grammy in half for a black woman.
Yet when has a BET or Soul Train award ever meant that much to the Black community?
Are Baph and I saying issues don?t exist? NO!
But Maybe our shit doesn?t mean as much because WE don?t value it as much.
RnB isn?t selling in the black community anymore period. And yawl ain?t buying no Kenny Latimore either.
And even IF we were taking what she said and running with it. Who fckn cares
I?m not saying appropriation doesn?t happen
I?m saying what are the solutions besides crying about it.
mmm when the mawnin cum
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Yeah nobody?s reading that
Quote from: BigDawg on November 16, 2017, 11:00:32 AM
But who takes the blame? Is it the record labels and marketing execs or the consumers that are not supporting black artists.
It's actually some of both...think about it...compare the number of white pop stars to major black stars who coexist...they have Ariana, Megan Trainor, Taylor, Katy, Gaga etc...
We have beyonce, Rihanna, and to a lesser extent Nicki Minaj. SZA and Cardi B are rising starlets but will they be able to compete with the pop girls?
I wouldn?t expect you to read past a couple sentences anyway :dead:
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 06:23:47 PM
I wouldn?t expect you to read past a couple sentences anyway :dead:
oooh! Insult! It?s not working
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Gone with this!
UGH!
Why do we make everything negative a black issue? Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well. Including their white fans. That's just music period. It's competitive. It's not a race thing.
Same thing Bentley is in here doing. "Why is Tank singing about sex?"
Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.
I hate when ya'll do this.
Did you watch the video?
YEAH. I did.
And my point still stands. We're always pointing the finger at each other like we are somehow responsible for an industry literally stacked against black music.
Do some research on the label merges that happened at the turn of the last decade and how most Urban divisions were cut with Urban staffs completely fired. Leaving R&B artists on labels with employees who probably had never even heard of them.
Mixed with iHeart and Clear Channel doing business deals that forced many Urban stations into Rhythmic stations or to close altogether. In addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.
Black people have been supporting and "doing our part" for years. That's why Demi Lovato can sell only 20k more than Tamar but still EAT. Because she has an industry literally backing her 100%.
So, YEAH.
You're wrong about that.
:scrumptious: :scrumptious: :scrumptious: :scrumptious: :scrumptious:
Even though I hate the word, that Hotsaucefagg is nothing but a misinformed COON and you lashed
The sexual tension in here
I support black artists FIRST! I have every right to be angry because I spend my $10.84 every other week on a new release from mostly black artists, but looking at the paradigm holistically is problematic and I won?t pacify the Adele?s of the world for breaking off a Grammy for a Beyonc? because it?s really goddamn larger than that.
Whites are still the majority population, so that means their purchasing power extends further to support several leading pop acts simultaneously. That's why you can have several of them churning out hits, pushing units and labels respond accordingly to that with their financial backing. Black people unfortunately don't have in spades that same luxury.
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 06:22:13 PM
Let me clarify what some ppl are missing due to uproar and anger :dead:
We already know the logistics of what Stephanie said :dead:
But here?s what angry blacks don?t realize
We don?t OWN the music industry
Just like we don?t OWN the NBA or NFL
But we TAKE what is dished out until it hits too close to home.
Just like those NFL players still played for massa after he called them inmates :dead:
Yawl in here pissed and up and arms, but I bet that Apple ID bill is paid on time EVERY month :dead:
she mentioned Adele, and for yawl to sit here and come down on ppl like JT and Adele, who broke her damn Grammy in half for a black woman.
Yet when has a BET or Soul Train award ever meant that much to the Black community?
Are Baph and I saying issues don?t exist? NO!
But Maybe our shit doesn?t mean as much because WE don?t value it as much.
RnB isn?t selling in the black community anymore period. And yawl ain?t buying no Kenny Latimore either.
And even IF we were taking what she said and running with it. Who fckn cares
I?m not saying appropriation doesn?t happen
I?m saying what are the solutions besides crying about it.
s
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 06:27:03 PM
I support black artists FIRST! I have every right to be angry because I spend my $10.84 every other week on a new release from mostly black artists, but looking at the paradigm holistically is problematic and I won?t pacify the Adele?s of the world for breaking off a Grammy for a Beyonc? because it?s really goddamn larger than that.
s
Just what I thought.
But NO FCKN DEAL!
You wanna be extremist
show the Receipts for ALL black artists gotdammit!
Stop half stepping and complaining. Fck outta here with a MOSTLY after acting an ass.
Bentley, nigga, you lost. Quit it.
When Brandy right before peaking at number one pummeled down to 16 cause BB snatched away the AirPlay from the charts.
:loose2when:
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 06:39:10 PM
Bentley, nigga
Exactly :dead:
Quote from: jtwoeleven on November 16, 2017, 06:27:22 PM
Whites are still the majority population, so that means their purchasing power extends further to support several leading pop acts simultaneously. That's why you can have several of them churning out hits, pushing units and labels respond accordingly to that with their financial backing. Black people unfortunately don't have in spades that same luxury.
!!!!!!!!
Exactly!
Demographics
And the fact we even measure our success based on their acceptance is an issue too!
Count the number of threads cackling at black artists selling below a certain amount just on this board alone :dead:
When we could actually have our own labels and cut more coin and our artists would EAT off selling 50k or 100k
Ashanti is independent huh
I remember the gorls here cackling at her release. And nobody shelled out coins.
Who all has Keyshia receipts?! The girls laughed at Charlene, no Receipts there either? HMPH where?s my AA warriors at?
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Quote from: Scott. on November 16, 2017, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 06:23:47 PM
I wouldn?t expect you to read past a couple sentences anyway :dead:
oooh! Insult! It?s not working
s
that wasn?t an insult. i don?t expect you to read what I write.
:ummwhat:
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 06:21:06 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 16, 2017, 06:06:11 PM
sddd i was bout to say y?all follow each other on insta? Was gonna kick Baph?s Ass
sdddfffvv god NO! And what would be the issue beloved?
ssdddd i wanna follow him
:ohwow:
Bentley please go choke on a penny.
Idiot self
s
Wait who is Saeed
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:50:06 PM
And this Baph' nigga always in a motherfucking thread stating his opinion and ain't even tf black! Like nigga...how? :uhh:
Take yo' color struck, sexist ass on somewhere!
KMANKSNNSMMAKKSNNSBSKLAMMKDBVAKLDNBSVSNND
He keeps sending me pictures of nooses too
Ion even know that boy! :uhh:
Quote from: Mel. on November 16, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
I feel sorry for you ?all I see is color? hoes
or must be a sad life to live
:everythingok:
Quote from: 1RIG on November 16, 2017, 05:17:20 PM
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 03:59:04 PM
:blush:But in the 90s they were merging Pop and R&B sounds a lot more
And a lot of R&B has been sounding dry tbh
that hasn?t changed IMO. R&B is as experimental as ever if you find the right artists
Maybe the older girls aren?t
!!!
R&B is more exciting now than it's been in a long time.
Quote from: 1RIG on November 16, 2017, 06:08:12 PM
Omffff Cody i had to wrap some of that post in quotes and tweet it
:loose2when:
U slayed
OMG! Thank you! :stressed:
I kinda FUMED OUT in here!
And I see Baph tossed the girls around in here. :justabit:
ssss
What Cody said was factual tho,
And when cancers get passionate, they write!
Which reminds me
Did anybody quote and tweet my mess in here?
:ummwhat:
Quote from: BENTLEY on November 16, 2017, 07:15:45 PM
ssss
What Cody said was factual tho,
And when cancers get passionate, they write!
Which reminds me
Did anybody quote and tweet my mess in here?
:ummwhat:
:kii:
This is another reason why I use Issa Rae so much.
I love that she helps to give R&B artists a platform with 'Insecure'.
Quote from: OwnIt on November 16, 2017, 06:26:04 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Gone with this!
UGH!
Why do we make everything negative a black issue? Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well. Including their white fans. That's just music period. It's competitive. It's not a race thing.
Same thing Bentley is in here doing. "Why is Tank singing about sex?"
Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.
I hate when ya'll do this.
Did you watch the video?
YEAH. I did.
And my point still stands. We're always pointing the finger at each other like we are somehow responsible for an industry literally stacked against black music.
Do some research on the label merges that happened at the turn of the last decade and how most Urban divisions were cut with Urban staffs completely fired. Leaving R&B artists on labels with employees who probably had never even heard of them.
Mixed with iHeart and Clear Channel doing business deals that forced many Urban stations into Rhythmic stations or to close altogether. In addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.
Black people have been supporting and "doing our part" for years. That's why Demi Lovato can sell only 20k more than Tamar but still EAT. Because she has an industry literally backing her 100%.
So, YEAH.
You're wrong about that.
:scrumptious: :scrumptious: :scrumptious: :scrumptious: :scrumptious:
Even though I hate the word, that Hotsaucefagg is nothing but a misinformed COON and you lashed
Wow @ coon! Y?all are hilarious. Nothing about my statement is wrong. You feel the way you do and I respect that. My statement is my statement. Don?t care what you think or about you disagreeing with an encyclopedia response.
an artist like zayn...
i mean it's obvious
and although i love me some NICK JONAS... that "jealous" song is a R&B song to me
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 16, 2017, 06:49:33 PM
Quote from: Saeed. on November 16, 2017, 05:50:06 PM
And this Baph' nigga always in a motherfucking thread stating his opinion and ain't even tf black! Like nigga...how? :uhh:
Take yo' color struck, sexist ass on somewhere!
KMANKSNNSMMAKKSNNSBSKLAMMKDBVAKLDNBSVSNND
He keeps sending me pictures of nooses too
Ion even know that boy! :uhh:
not color struck
Whoa! The gloves are damns OFF huh lmao
lol
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 16, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: HotsauceSwag on November 16, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Her statement is so true but it?s also an issue we have with ourselves. Brandy and Monica are a prime example ... we as fans get so caught up in she?s better because of this or she?s better because of that, instead of supporting because they are different and both very good af at what they do. We have to take some ownership in our favs demise. Bottom line is, we should support because we are hurting our artist and making it hard for them to win!
Gone with this!
UGH!
Why do we make everything negative a black issue? Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are white and are publicly feuding as well. Including their white fans. That's just music period. It's competitive. It's not a race thing.
Same thing Bentley is in here doing. "Why is Tank singing about sex?"
Like white artists singing R&B music are covering all of these amazing concepts.
I hate when ya'll do this.
Did you watch the video?
YEAH. I did.
And my point still stands. We're always pointing the finger at each other like we are somehow responsible for an industry literally stacked against black music.
Do some research on the label merges that happened at the turn of the last decade and how most Urban divisions were cut with Urban staffs completely fired. Leaving R&B artists on labels with employees who probably had never even heard of them.
Mixed with iHeart and Clear Channel doing business deals that forced many Urban stations into Rhythmic stations or to close altogether. In addition to rules set behind the scenes at Billboard giving advantage to Pop radio and changing the R&B Chart to no longer reflect airplay .... thus eliminating R&B out of the charts which directly impacts award shows which directly impacts visibility which directly impacts sales.
Black people have been supporting and "doing our part" for years. That's why Demi Lovato can sell only 20k more than Tamar but still EAT. Because she has an industry literally backing her 100%.
So, YEAH.
You're wrong about that.
Break it down a bit!
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Quote from: ???? on November 16, 2017, 09:53:19 PM
and although i love me some NICK JONAS... that "jealous" song is a R&B song to me
Ugh thinking about that song makes me mad
That song should've went to Miguel...
Sold I read this thread
Quote from: M??D?? on November 16, 2017, 06:50:32 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 16, 2017, 05:17:20 PM
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 03:59:04 PM
:blush:But in the 90s they were merging Pop and R&B sounds a lot more
And a lot of R&B has been sounding dry tbh
that hasn?t changed IMO. R&B is as experimental as ever if you find the right artists
Maybe the older girls aren?t
!!!
R&B is more exciting now than it's been in a long time.
q
I wanna See the fckn RECEIPTS hun
R&B is coming back around... I think the old artists except for a certain few are just not on the new wave yet and tryna play catch up now... u can tell by how some are dressing, Miguel went from tryna give sex symbol to Hypebeast and even Bey is fuckin wearing Off White...
The alternative, indie, moody, artistic R&B is on the rise that all these younger artists are putting out (The Internet, Daniel Caesar, Keleela, Brent Faiyaz etc.)... THEY need a platform to take them to the next level but they have the younger cult/underground/Hypebeast audience on lock!
SZA is currently the spokes person since she blew up but she needs to keep doing her and don?t let the industry dumb her down to keep opening doors for these other artists
It?s crazy how very lowkey Brandy really was on to some shit Afrodisiac era and the unreleased mess after... too bad for that car accident b/c she been on what these artists are tryna give now musically
Yup
Frank, Hitboy, Fauntleroy .. lolz
All these niggas got their first placements with Brans. I?d love SZA to write with her
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: M??D?? on November 16, 2017, 06:50:32 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 16, 2017, 05:17:20 PM
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 03:59:04 PM
:blush:But in the 90s they were merging Pop and R&B sounds a lot more
And a lot of R&B has been sounding dry tbh
that hasn?t changed IMO. R&B is as experimental as ever if you find the right artists
Maybe the older girls aren?t
!!!
R&B is more exciting now than it's been in a long time.
q
I wanna See the fckn RECEIPTS hun
n
There are plenty. We all just have different tastes i guess
I don?t listen to the old girls
I don't really like listening to the new girls. They're not really "sangers" to me. And I guess that's because of what I grew up on. I also grew up on LOVE songs. This new wave doesn't really feed my soul like that.
Quote from: 1RIG on November 17, 2017, 12:23:47 AM
Yup
Frank, Hitboy, Fauntleroy .. lolz
All these niggas got their first placements with Brans. I?d love SZA to write with her
!!!!
The kids are really sleep on our girl. It really all began with "Never Say Never" and ALL the gers wanted to work with Rodney after that. :kii:
Quote from: 1RIG on November 17, 2017, 12:24:19 AM
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: M??D?? on November 16, 2017, 06:50:32 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 16, 2017, 05:17:20 PM
Quote from: Young on November 16, 2017, 03:59:04 PM
:blush:But in the 90s they were merging Pop and R&B sounds a lot more
And a lot of R&B has been sounding dry tbh
that hasn?t changed IMO. R&B is as experimental as ever if you find the right artists
Maybe the older girls aren?t
!!!
R&B is more exciting now than it's been in a long time.
q
I wanna See the fckn RECEIPTS hun
n
There are plenty. We all just have different tastes i guess
I don?t listen to the old girls
!!!
Facts so many new people out there giving some dope shit, I kinda don?t wanna hear no more that R&B is dead
Harlem you're preaching in hea :oof:
Quote from: Harlem on November 16, 2017, 11:58:45 PM
R&B is coming back around... I think the old artists except for a certain few are just not on the new wave yet and tryna play catch up now... u can tell by how some are dressing, Miguel went from tryna give sex symbol to Hypebeast and even Bey is fuckin wearing Off White...
The alternative, indie, moody, artistic R&B is on the rise that all these younger artists are putting out (The Internet, Daniel Caesar, Keleela, Brent Faiyaz etc.)... THEY need a platform to take them to the next level but they have the younger cult/underground/Hypebeast audience on lock!
SZA is currently the spokes person since she blew up but she needs to keep doing her and don?t let the industry dumb her down to keep opening doors for these other artists
Tank was on the Breakfast Club and said something similar about Ginuwine. If you listen to these alt-RnB/Trap Soul artists they all sample his old shit, same with SWV. Alot of the 90s girls just don't know to market themselves to this generation.
And Brandy unreleased music was sooo ahead of it's time:
Porcelain, Doesn't Really Matter, How High, Freedom.... I could hear anyone from Syd to SZA on these songs.